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| Started by | Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> |
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| First post | 2017-12-14 16:48 +0000 |
| Last post | 2017-12-16 18:21 -0500 |
| Articles | 6 on this page of 26 — 10 participants |
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Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-14 16:48 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2017-12-14 11:54 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-12-14 09:13 -0800
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-12-14 09:08 -0800
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-12-14 12:26 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-12-14 09:49 -0800
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-12-14 12:59 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> - 2017-12-14 22:49 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-15 06:18 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2017-12-15 14:25 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> - 2017-12-15 23:14 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2017-12-15 11:24 +1300
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-15 06:23 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2017-12-15 21:56 +1300
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-15 14:49 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-12-15 10:39 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-15 18:33 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> - 2017-12-15 23:23 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Jeff <j@donotspam.me> - 2017-12-15 17:24 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> - 2017-12-15 18:32 +0000
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-12-15 19:51 +0100
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2017-12-16 18:44 +1300
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-12-16 14:17 +0100
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-12-16 09:50 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> - 2017-12-15 23:20 -0500
Re: Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & videos of engine valves? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2017-12-16 18:21 -0500
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-12-15 19:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <76idge-m2j.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #213168 |
On 2017-12-15 19:32, Arthur Wood wrote: > Jeff wrote: > >> The "physics" are because the smudge on the lens is at a 45 degree angle. > > It's not a smudge. I don't know what it is, but it's not a smudge. > I wiped the lens because that's the first thing I had thought also. > > Anyways, it doesn't happen on pictures that don't have that lighting > situation, even at the same time. > > There's something about the lighting combined with the way cameras work. Try another camera. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2017-12-16 18:44 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <aic93d52o9torh3nbka2cqfpefc5gj7d5s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #213168 |
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:32:33 -0000 (UTC), Arthur Wood <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> wrote: >Jeff wrote: > >> The "physics" are because the smudge on the lens is at a 45 degree angle. > >It's not a smudge. I don't know what it is, but it's not a smudge. >I wiped the lens because that's the first thing I had thought also. > >Anyways, it doesn't happen on pictures that don't have that lighting >situation, even at the same time. > >There's something about the lighting combined with the way cameras work. > >This is the light fixture that I use as my mobile shop light. >https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36864695/light1.jpg.html "Image light1.jpg don`t exist on our server!" - which I find frustrating as I don't know what everyone else is talking about. > >I bought it at a yard sale where it was claimed to be a photography light. >Is that a typical photography light? > >Currently it has a curly bulb inside a floodlight fixture (PR-something). >What bulb do you normally put in those photography lights? -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-12-16 14:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10jfge-c8t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #213184 |
On 2017-12-16 06:44, Eric Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:32:33 -0000 (UTC), Arthur Wood > <arthurwood@bimmerfest.com> wrote: >> This is the light fixture that I use as my mobile shop light. >> https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36864695/light1.jpg.html > > "Image light1.jpg don`t exist on our server!" - which I find > frustrating as I don't know what everyone else is talking about. Works fine here, but it is light1.jpg.html. Just a lamp. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-12-16 09:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <161220170950022343%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #213185 |
In article <10jfge-c8t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> This is the light fixture that I use as my mobile shop light. > >> https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36864695/light1.jpg.html > > > > "Image light1.jpg don`t exist on our server!" - which I find > > frustrating as I don't know what everyone else is talking about. > > Works fine here, but it is light1.jpg.html. Just a lamp. it does now, but it didn't last night when he got the error.
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| From | PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> |
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| Date | 2017-12-15 23:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <p126ui02tsk@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #213159 |
On 12/15/2017 1:23 AM, Arthur Wood wrote: > Eric Stevens wrote: > >> I think you mean cams rather than valves. >> >> It looks to me as though the highlighted parts give rise to a strak of >> light at an angle to the frame of the image. In some of the shots >> (e.g. bay 10) streaks can be seen emenating from highlights other than >> the cams. I suspect the problem may be due to a smear on the camera >> lens. I suggest you try it with another camera. > > You are correct in noticing that all the streaks of light are at the same > 45 degree angle no matter how the camera is held. > > That's why I think it may be some "physics" principle involved. > Yep. See my answer above, and the formula at <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_source>. > There are many other photos taken with the same camera but under daylight > lighting where these streaks do not happen so it's not the camera. > > Some of those photos are here. > http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1181089 > > And here: > http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1181289 > > So it's not the camera or the lens except under those lighting conditions. > > I was assuming there is something weird in the physics of the lighting that > causes those sleet like streaks always at 45 degree angles and far from > being a mere reflection. > -- PeterN
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| From | Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-16 18:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <V9udnSKrt_0aN6jHnZ2dnUU7-dGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #213146 |
On 2017-12-14 11:48, Arthur Wood wrote: > Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter sparkling in all my photos > & videos of engine valves. What specifically is causing all the ghosting > and sparkling? > > I'm using just a shop light and a mobile phone to video (without flash) and > photograph (with and without flash) an engine problem where all the photos > have this shiny glare no matter what angle I put the light or phone with > respect to the valves - and whether or not I use flash. > > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857792/engine_bay1.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857793/engine_bay2.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857794/engine_bay3.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857795/engine_bay4.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857796/engine_bay5.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857797/engine_bay6.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857798/engine_bay7.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857799/engine_bay8.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857800/engine_bay9.jpg.html > https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/36857801/engine_bay10.jpg.html > > The original thread is here, where it also contains video with the same > problem, but the photos above show the problem enough. > <http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1181089> > > Is there an easy way to stop this light scatter ghosting in all my photos & > videos of engine valves. Haven't read all the replies but my first question would be: is your lens impeccably clean?
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