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| First post | 2024-04-30 02:42 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-06-17 17:41 +0000 |
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Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-04-30 02:42 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-04-29 21:05 -0700
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-15 02:14 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-05-15 06:56 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-17 01:47 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-05-16 21:52 -0700
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> - 2024-05-18 14:38 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-18 20:24 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-04-30 15:51 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-27 16:21 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> - 2024-05-27 14:53 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-27 20:15 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> - 2024-05-27 16:51 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-27 22:00 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> - 2024-05-28 08:43 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> - 2024-05-28 09:01 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-28 18:08 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> - 2024-05-28 14:53 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-28 23:56 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-05-30 17:10 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-06-15 18:38 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-06-15 17:01 -0400
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> - 2024-06-16 16:18 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2024-06-17 01:36 +0000
Re: Recovering a bark-damaged lemon tree "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> - 2024-06-17 17:41 +0000
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| From | <bp@www.zefox.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-15 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <v4kn3m$3j35v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32681 |
bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > > Now the problem is to control the regrowth to prevent, or at least > slow down, the canopy's return to utter, impenetrable, chaos. The recovery of the tree is proceeding apace, in rather disorderly fasion. Photos are: http://www.zefox.net/~rprohask/lemon_damage/trunk_recovery.jpg and http://www.zefox.net/~rprohask/lemon_damage/crown_recovery.jpg Does anybody have thoughts on when to start removing obviously inappropriate growth? It seems pretty clear that sprouts coming up near the root crown should come off. Buds pushing out higher on the scaffold are a tougher call. Right now the root structure is appropriate to a tree about fifteen feet tall and maybe ten feet wide. That needs a certain amount of photosynthesis to remain healthy, likely far more than is supplied by the existing leaf area. That suggests leaving all growth alone initially and then progressively removing unwanted branches after some delay. Anybody got a hint what an appropriate delay might be? Weeks, months? Maybe a year? Seems best to minimize the tree's wasted investment. Thanks for looking, and any thoughts. bob prohaska
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-15 17:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n2c1kk-367.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32683 |
<bp@www.zefox.net> wrote: ... > Right now the root structure is appropriate to a tree about > fifteen feet tall and maybe ten feet wide. That needs a certain > amount of photosynthesis to remain healthy, likely far more than > is supplied by the existing leaf area. That suggests leaving all > growth alone initially and then progressively removing unwanted > branches after some delay. that sounds reasonable, with the hot season coming up having less leaves might actually be a good thing as then the roots don't have to work so hard to support the canopy. > Anybody got a hint what an appropriate delay might be? Weeks, months? > Maybe a year? Seems best to minimize the tree's wasted investment. i would remove any bottom growth right away and leave most of the rest except perhap a few of the worst ones you would want to remove anyways. in the fall or other pruning time do some more. i don't really know the cycle of pruning for citrus trees at all (i live in the north). songbird
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| From | "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-16 16:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <C46cnSpO-_3sjfL7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #32684 |
songbird wrote: > <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote: > ... > > Right now the root structure is appropriate to a tree about > > fifteen feet tall and maybe ten feet wide. That needs a certain > > amount of photosynthesis to remain healthy, likely far more than > > is supplied by the existing leaf area. That suggests leaving all > > growth alone initially and then progressively removing unwanted > > branches after some delay. > > that sounds reasonable, with the hot season coming up having > less leaves might actually be a good thing as then the roots > don't have to work so hard to support the canopy. > > > > Anybody got a hint what an appropriate delay might be? Weeks, > > months? Maybe a year? Seems best to minimize the tree's wasted > > investment. > > i would remove any bottom growth right away and leave > most of the rest except perhap a few of the worst ones > you would want to remove anyways. in the fall or other > pruning time do some more. i don't really know the cycle > of pruning for citrus trees at all (i live in the north). > > > songbird I'm not far enough south to know more than apples. Prune those early September and don't prune to heavily.
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| From | <bp@www.zefox.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-17 01:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <v4o3vh$b29d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32686 |
cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote: > songbird wrote: > >> <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote: >> ... >> > Right now the root structure is appropriate to a tree about >> > fifteen feet tall and maybe ten feet wide. That needs a certain >> > amount of photosynthesis to remain healthy, likely far more than >> > is supplied by the existing leaf area. That suggests leaving all >> > growth alone initially and then progressively removing unwanted >> > branches after some delay. >> >> that sounds reasonable, with the hot season coming up having >> less leaves might actually be a good thing as then the roots >> don't have to work so hard to support the canopy. >> >> >> > Anybody got a hint what an appropriate delay might be? Weeks, >> > months? Maybe a year? Seems best to minimize the tree's wasted >> > investment. >> >> i would remove any bottom growth right away and leave >> most of the rest except perhap a few of the worst ones >> you would want to remove anyways. in the fall or other >> pruning time do some more. i don't really know the cycle >> of pruning for citrus trees at all (i live in the north). >> >> >> songbird > > I'm not far enough south to know more than apples. Prune those early > September and don't prune to heavily. Growth slows down as the days shorten in the fall (the lemon tree is in a northwest pocket between two houses, with lots of trees). Very little happens between December and about April, but after that it's off to the races until about September. I think the rats may have been attracted by spring flush pruning done by me. The snapped-off new growth is wonderfully fragrant and smells good enough to eat. Quite possibly any sap leakage is sweet. The puzzle then is why the squirrels didn't start this long ago; they've been chewing on my (late) mulberry for years. I've removed the lowest buds and will thin the upper buds, keeping one our two when several are emerging close together. Then look again around midwinter. Best to avoid too much pruning later in spring. Thank for writing! bob prohaska
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| From | "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-17 17:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <JFidnRNM0bTa6O37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #32689 |
<bp@www.zefox.net> wrote: > cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote: > > songbird wrote: > > > >> <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote: > >> ... > >> > Right now the root structure is appropriate to a tree about > >> > fifteen feet tall and maybe ten feet wide. That needs a certain > >> > amount of photosynthesis to remain healthy, likely far more than > >> > is supplied by the existing leaf area. That suggests leaving all > >> > growth alone initially and then progressively removing unwanted > >> > branches after some delay. > >> > >> that sounds reasonable, with the hot season coming up having > >> less leaves might actually be a good thing as then the roots > >> don't have to work so hard to support the canopy. > >> > >> > >> > Anybody got a hint what an appropriate delay might be? Weeks, > >> > months? Maybe a year? Seems best to minimize the tree's wasted > >> > investment. > >> > >> i would remove any bottom growth right away and leave > >> most of the rest except perhap a few of the worst ones > >> you would want to remove anyways. in the fall or other > >> pruning time do some more. i don't really know the cycle > >> of pruning for citrus trees at all (i live in the north). > >> > >> > >> songbird > > > > I'm not far enough south to know more than apples. Prune those > > early September and don't prune to heavily. > > Growth slows down as the days shorten in the fall (the lemon tree > is in a northwest pocket between two houses, with lots of trees). > Very little happens between December and about April, but after > that it's off to the races until about September. > > I think the rats may have been attracted by spring flush pruning > done by me. The snapped-off new growth is wonderfully fragrant > and smells good enough to eat. Quite possibly any sap leakage > is sweet. The puzzle then is why the squirrels didn't start this > long ago; they've been chewing on my (late) mulberry for years. > > I've removed the lowest buds and will thin the upper buds, keeping > one our two when several are emerging close together. Then look again > around midwinter. Best to avoid too much pruning later in spring. > > Thank for writing! > > bob prohaska > Always happy to add what I do and don't know! Mostly it's southern apple types.
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