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First post2024-11-20 01:06 +0000
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  Another gravy swamp. Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2024-11-20 01:06 +0000
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#1474832

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-24 11:54 +0100
Message-ID<a483e050-4328-0b87-d7ae-48433bd8a39b@example.net>
In reply to#1474780

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
>>
>>> Nutmeg, (later added onions and garlic), and Cumin.
>>>
>>> For 'D' I'd recommend mix white and his dark bread for texture.  You
>>> may like a whole wheat.  Same seasonings.
>>
>> As so often stated, you are a wise woman Carol!
>
> Call it neccessity of a Mother.  With me being at sea so much, I got
> back once just before T-day (happened twice).  Once the commisary ran
> out of stuffing before I made it.  I was pretty proficient with making
> bread by then so I just added spices to the mix but at that time, had
> only onions and garlic in bulb form so we added them raw minced after
> the baking was done and in with the butter to heat to translucent and
> continued on.  There was no way we were going to skip the stuffing!

You sure are a good and resourceful mother!

>>> Think about types of crushed nuts you like in there.  Roast them at
>>> the side then have them available as sprinkles on the stuffing.
>>> Bits of fruits (lignon or something like that for 'D'?) set aside
>>> for sprinkles.
>>
>> Interesting... lingonberries... they are quite sour, would that still
>> work? Or would you use sweeter berries?
>
> Oh, I just recalled you liked them but no flavor came to mind.  I would
> use sweeter berries or just omit.

Hmm, maybe something sweeter like blueberries or perhaps blackberries 
would do?

> I assume like most of the world, you have some 'harvest festival'?
> Generically we call it 'Thanksgiving' and normally a fall harvest.
> October Fest is a sample of it.  Canada has one a month earlier because
> it's north of us so 'harvest' is earlier (that's what I've been told).

Nothing comes to mind really. There are of course farmers markets, but the 
only special day that comes to mind during the autumn is all saints day. 
This day in sweden, is _not_ about eating candy and dressing like ghosts. 
From my childhood I remember it as a very boring day, when I had to go 
with my father to the cemetery to light candles upon the grave of his 
parents.

I don't understand why we have to import the Helloween spectacle to 
sweden, with all the candy and stress it brings with it. The wife likes 
it, I personally, prefer the boring tradition of lighting a candle and 
thinking about death in a peaceful place.

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#1474939

From"Carol" <cshenk@virginia-beach.com>
Date2024-11-24 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<vi0cuf$2egdq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1474832
D wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
> 
> 
> You sure are a good and resourceful mother!

Thanks but that's simple stuff if you make bread.

> > > > Think about types of crushed nuts you like in there.  Roast
> > > > them at the side then have them available as sprinkles on the
> > > > stuffing.  Bits of fruits set aside for sprinkles.
> > > 
> > > Interesting... lingonberries... they are quite sour, would that
> > > still work? Or would you use sweeter berries?
> > 
> > Oh, I just recalled you liked them but no flavor came to mind.  I
> > would use sweeter berries or just omit.
> 
> Hmm, maybe something sweeter like blueberries or perhaps blackberries
> would do?

Yes, either one.  PS: I don't think they are traditional in the USA but
Mom often made stuffing from store bought raisen bread and we all liked
it.  She didn't bake stuffing in the bird (fine by us) as it's faster
without.  Turns out safer too (food safety).  The reason for them on
the side is to let folks choose what they like.

Macademia nuts would be great but even in Hawaii, they aren't cheap.

> > I assume like most of the world, you have some 'harvest festival'?
> > Generically we call it 'Thanksgiving' and normally a fall harvest.
> > October Fest is a sample of it.  Canada has one a month earlier
> > because it's north of us so 'harvest' is earlier (that's what I've
> > been told).
> 
> Nothing comes to mind really. 

Odd but ok.


> I don't understand why we have to import the Helloween spectacle to
> sweden, with all the candy and stress it brings with it. The wife
> likes it, I personally, prefer the boring tradition of lighting a
> candle and thinking about death in a peaceful place.

LOL! Kids love it!  Dress up time!

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#1475018

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-25 11:25 +0100
Message-ID<e4349993-846d-c130-bcfa-3bccd3a92fc4@example.net>
In reply to#1474939

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
>>
>>
>> You sure are a good and resourceful mother!
>
> Thanks but that's simple stuff if you make bread.
>
>>>>> Think about types of crushed nuts you like in there.  Roast
>>>>> them at the side then have them available as sprinkles on the
>>>>> stuffing.  Bits of fruits set aside for sprinkles.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting... lingonberries... they are quite sour, would that
>>>> still work? Or would you use sweeter berries?
>>>
>>> Oh, I just recalled you liked them but no flavor came to mind.  I
>>> would use sweeter berries or just omit.
>>
>> Hmm, maybe something sweeter like blueberries or perhaps blackberries
>> would do?
>
> Yes, either one.  PS: I don't think they are traditional in the USA but
> Mom often made stuffing from store bought raisen bread and we all liked
> it.  She didn't bake stuffing in the bird (fine by us) as it's faster
> without.  Turns out safer too (food safety).  The reason for them on
> the side is to let folks choose what they like.

Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in Chicago 
who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a bunch of the 
international students.

In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland beer, 
and to watch american football at the same time. ;)

> Macademia nuts would be great but even in Hawaii, they aren't cheap.
>
>>> I assume like most of the world, you have some 'harvest festival'?
>>> Generically we call it 'Thanksgiving' and normally a fall harvest.
>>> October Fest is a sample of it.  Canada has one a month earlier
>>> because it's north of us so 'harvest' is earlier (that's what I've
>>> been told).
>>
>> Nothing comes to mind really.
>
> Odd but ok.
>
>
>> I don't understand why we have to import the Helloween spectacle to
>> sweden, with all the candy and stress it brings with it. The wife
>> likes it, I personally, prefer the boring tradition of lighting a
>> candle and thinking about death in a peaceful place.
>
> LOL! Kids love it!  Dress up time!

It takes character to say no to childrens demands! When I was young, I got 
a bowl of gravel for breakfast, and I had to wake up before I went to bed 
in order to work for the family!

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#1475135

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-25 14:27 -0700
Message-ID<vi2rh1$2vu0s$29@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475018
On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in Chicago 
> who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a bunch of the 
> international students.
> 
> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland beer, 
> and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰

Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!

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#1475164

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-25 23:44 +0100
Message-ID<6efacf57-c1a6-e94d-73cb-0d27c13fc456@example.net>
In reply to#1475135

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in Chicago who 
>> had as a tradition that every professor would invite a bunch of the 
>> international students.
>> 
>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland beer, 
>> and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>
> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>

Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so much.

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#1475182

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-25 16:45 -0700
Message-ID<vi325v$331sk$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475164
On 11/25/2024 3:44 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in 
>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a 
>>> bunch of the international students.
>>>
>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland 
>>> beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>
>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>
> 
> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so much.

Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day

The NFL's Thanksgiving Day games have traditionally included one game 
hosted by the Detroit Lions since 1934, and one game hosted by the 
Dallas Cowboys since 1966 (with two exceptions in 1975 and 1977). Since 
2006, a third prime time game has also been played on Thanksgiving Day. 
Unlike the two afternoon games, this game has no fixed teams.

In 2001, the NFL began branding the games as the Thanksgiving 
Classic.[1] In 2022, the league changed the branding to the John Madden 
Thanksgiving Celebration in honor of head coach and broadcaster John 
Madden, who had died in December 2021

This year's early offerings include this absolute stinker:


New York
   @

Dallas
2:30 PM	
FOX

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#1475232

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-26 10:39 +0100
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

> On 11/25/2024 3:44 PM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in Chicago 
>>>> who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a bunch of the 
>>>> international students.
>>>> 
>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland beer, 
>>>> and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>> 
>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>> 
>> 
>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so much.
>
> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it became a 
> TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day

Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I was 
more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor and my 
fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a backdrop and very 
few cared about the actual result.

> The NFL's Thanksgiving Day games have traditionally included one game hosted 
> by the Detroit Lions since 1934, and one game hosted by the Dallas Cowboys 
> since 1966 (with two exceptions in 1975 and 1977). Since 2006, a third prime 
> time game has also been played on Thanksgiving Day. Unlike the two afternoon 
> games, this game has no fixed teams.
>
> In 2001, the NFL began branding the games as the Thanksgiving Classic.[1] In 
> 2022, the league changed the branding to the John Madden Thanksgiving 
> Celebration in honor of head coach and broadcaster John Madden, who had died 
> in December 2021

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

> This year's early offerings include this absolute stinker:
>
>
> New York
>  @
>
> Dallas
> 2:30 PM 
> FOX

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#1475266

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-26 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<vi4v2j$3h6uq$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475232
On 11/26/2024 2:39 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
>> On 11/25/2024 3:44 PM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in 
>>>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a 
>>>>> bunch of the international students.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland 
>>>>> beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>
>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so much.
>>
>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
>> became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
> 
> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
> thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I 
> was more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor and 
> my fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a backdrop and 
> very few cared about the actual result.

Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!

I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.

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#1475311

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-26 22:09 +0100
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

> On 11/26/2024 2:39 AM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2024 3:44 PM, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in Chicago 
>>>>>> who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a bunch of the 
>>>>>> international students.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>>>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland 
>>>>>> beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>> 
>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so much.
>>> 
>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it became 
>>> a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>> 
>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
>> thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I was 
>> more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor and my 
>> fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a backdrop and very 
>> few cared about the actual result.
>
> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>
> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>

This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people bbq:ing in 
the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very genuine!

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#1475318

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-26 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<vi5dss$3k6rf$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475311
On 11/26/2024 2:09 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
>> On 11/26/2024 2:39 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2024 3:44 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in 
>>>>>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would invite 
>>>>>>> a bunch of the international students.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It 
>>>>>>> was explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink 
>>>>>>> bland beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so 
>>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
>>>> became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>>>
>>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
>>> thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I 
>>> was more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor 
>>> and my fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a 
>>> backdrop and very few cared about the actual result.
>>
>> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>>
>> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>>
> 
> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people bbq:ing 
> in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very genuine!

It's a nice chill vibe for sure.

Cubs or White Sox?

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#1475379

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-27 12:06 +0100
Message-ID<3cdb4f77-4527-3f5c-0753-b34b2066b2b1@example.net>
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

> On 11/26/2024 2:09 PM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/25/2024 3:25 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in 
>>>>>>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a 
>>>>>>>> bunch of the international students.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>>>>>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland 
>>>>>>>> beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so 
>>>>>> much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
>>>>> became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>>>> 
>>>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
>>>> thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I was 
>>>> more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor and my 
>>>> fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a backdrop and very 
>>>> few cared about the actual result.
>>> 
>>> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>>> 
>>> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>>> 
>> 
>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people bbq:ing in 
>> the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very genuine!
>
> It's a nice chill vibe for sure.
>
> Cubs or White Sox?

White sox... always white sox! ;) One of my mentors and customers in the 
US who I haven't seen in 15 years was a huge Red sox fan and used to take 
me to games for free, so I guess the Red sox have a place as well in my 
heart.

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#1475406

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-27 09:28 -0700
Message-ID<vi7i06$300m$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475379
On 11/27/2024 4:06 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school in 
>>>>>>>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would 
>>>>>>>>> invite a bunch of the international students.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It 
>>>>>>>>> was explained to us that a very important tradition was to 
>>>>>>>>> drink bland beer, and to watch american football at the same 
>>>>>>>>> time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not 
>>>>>>> so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
>>>>>> became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was 
>>>>>> awful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room 
>>>>> at thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams 
>>>>> playing. I was more focused on my beer and some discussion with the 
>>>>> professor and my fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was 
>>>>> just a backdrop and very few cared about the actual result.
>>>>
>>>> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>>>>
>>>> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people 
>>> bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very 
>>> genuine!
>>
>> It's a nice chill vibe for sure.
>>
>> Cubs or White Sox?
> 
> White sox... always white sox! ;) 

Cool.

You maybe got to see "the big hurt" in his prime.

> One of my mentors and customers in the 
> US who I haven't seen in 15 years was a huge Red sox fan and used to 
> take me to games for free, so I guess the Red sox have a place as well 
> in my heart.

That's the greatest home field-advantaged team in baseball!

The Green Monster is right up there with the Celtics parquet flooring 
for iconic status in sports.

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#1475463

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-27 21:32 +0100
Message-ID<83a4e0b6-b21a-07d3-0e4d-33dd3bbaa429@example.net>
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

> On 11/27/2024 4:06 AM, D wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would invite a 
>>>>>>>>>> bunch of the international students.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. It was 
>>>>>>>>>> explained to us that a very important tradition was to drink bland 
>>>>>>>>>> beer, and to watch american football at the same time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not so 
>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, it 
>>>>>>> became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit was awful.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room at 
>>>>>> thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams playing. I 
>>>>>> was more focused on my beer and some discussion with the professor and 
>>>>>> my fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game was just a backdrop and 
>>>>>> very few cared about the actual result.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people bbq:ing 
>>>> in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very genuine!
>>> 
>>> It's a nice chill vibe for sure.
>>> 
>>> Cubs or White Sox?
>> 
>> White sox... always white sox! ;) 
>
> Cool.
>
> You maybe got to see "the big hurt" in his prime.

Hmm, doesn't ring a bell.

>> One of my mentors and customers in the US who I haven't seen in 15 years 
>> was a huge Red sox fan and used to take me to games for free, so I guess 
>> the Red sox have a place as well in my heart.
>
> That's the greatest home field-advantaged team in baseball!
>
> The Green Monster is right up there with the Celtics parquet flooring for 
> iconic status in sports.

Oh yes, quite the feeling at the home red sox game when I went. My 
customer used to work as a talent scout for the Red sox, so he knew 
everything about the game. In fact, he was close to becoming a 
professional player himself, but had to go into business due to a knee 
injury.

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#1475475

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-27 13:50 -0700
Message-ID<vi80m5$5imq$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475463
On 11/27/2024 1:32 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> Only once did I have a thanksgiving dinner. It was my school 
>>>>>>>>>>> in Chicago who had as a tradition that every professor would 
>>>>>>>>>>> invite a bunch of the international students.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the house I was assigned, the stuffing came on the side. 
>>>>>>>>>>> It was explained to us that a very important tradition was to 
>>>>>>>>>>> drink bland beer, and to watch american football at the same 
>>>>>>>>>>> time. πŸ˜‰
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Detroit and Dallas, every miserable, tryptophan-snoozing year!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never been to either place. Dallas is on the list, Detroit, not 
>>>>>>>>> so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right, I was referring to the scheduled nfl games for that day, 
>>>>>>>> it became a TV tradition back when Dallas was good and Detroit 
>>>>>>>> was awful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahhh.... thank you! I had no idea! Many decades ago, in that room 
>>>>>>> at thanksgiving, I hardly paid any notice to the actual teams 
>>>>>>> playing. I was more focused on my beer and some discussion with 
>>>>>>> the professor and my fellow class mates. It seemed as if the game 
>>>>>>> was just a backdrop and very few cared about the actual result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right - you had the classic American turkey day experience then!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I honestly think they get more buzz out of the Munich games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people 
>>>>> bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very 
>>>>> genuine!
>>>>
>>>> It's a nice chill vibe for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Cubs or White Sox?
>>>
>>> White sox... always white sox! ;) 
>>
>> Cool.
>>
>> You maybe got to see "the big hurt" in his prime.
> 
> Hmm, doesn't ring a bell.

He was a home run machine:

https://youtu.be/4DsMCDqnsLo?t=22


>>> One of my mentors and customers in the US who I haven't seen in 15 
>>> years was a huge Red sox fan and used to take me to games for free, 
>>> so I guess the Red sox have a place as well in my heart.
>>
>> That's the greatest home field-advantaged team in baseball!
>>
>> The Green Monster is right up there with the Celtics parquet flooring 
>> for iconic status in sports.
> 
> Oh yes, quite the feeling at the home red sox game when I went. My 
> customer used to work as a talent scout for the Red sox, so he knew 
> everything about the game. In fact, he was close to becoming a 
> professional player himself, but had to go into business due to a knee 
> injury.

The Red Sox have had so many generational talents, but none more iconic 
than the late, great  Hall of Famer Ted Williams:

The hitting hitch explained:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_eKWTnv9_WQ?feature=share

No hitch!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PCSKIZsTzeg?feature=share

Scientific pitching choice and great with kids:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UOohZcPuvdg?feature=share

⚾️🧒

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#1475621

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-28 11:09 +0100
Message-ID<dc7f1a15-b5b9-d79d-e06a-593a6d052d1d@example.net>
In reply to#1475475

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:

>
>
>>>> One of my mentors and customers in the US who I haven't seen in 15 years 
>>>> was a huge Red sox fan and used to take me to games for free, so I guess 
>>>> the Red sox have a place as well in my heart.
>>> 
>>> That's the greatest home field-advantaged team in baseball!
>>> 
>>> The Green Monster is right up there with the Celtics parquet flooring for 
>>> iconic status in sports.
>> 
>> Oh yes, quite the feeling at the home red sox game when I went. My customer 
>> used to work as a talent scout for the Red sox, so he knew everything about 
>> the game. In fact, he was close to becoming a professional player himself, 
>> but had to go into business due to a knee injury.
>
> The Red Sox have had so many generational talents, but none more iconic than 
> the late, great  Hall of Famer Ted Williams:
>
> The hitting hitch explained:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_eKWTnv9_WQ?feature=share
>
> No hitch!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PCSKIZsTzeg?feature=share
>
> Scientific pitching choice and great with kids:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UOohZcPuvdg?feature=share
>
> ⚾️🧒
>

Thank you very much for sharing! This group is sometimes a wonder of interesting
facts and education! =)

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#1475684

Fromclams casino <cc@invalid.cc>
Date2024-11-28 10:06 -0700
Message-ID<via9b4$juq5$20@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475621
On 11/28/2024 3:09 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, clams casino wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>>>> One of my mentors and customers in the US who I haven't seen in 15 
>>>>> years was a huge Red sox fan and used to take me to games for free, 
>>>>> so I guess the Red sox have a place as well in my heart.
>>>>
>>>> That's the greatest home field-advantaged team in baseball!
>>>>
>>>> The Green Monster is right up there with the Celtics parquet 
>>>> flooring for iconic status in sports.
>>>
>>> Oh yes, quite the feeling at the home red sox game when I went. My 
>>> customer used to work as a talent scout for the Red sox, so he knew 
>>> everything about the game. In fact, he was close to becoming a 
>>> professional player himself, but had to go into business due to a 
>>> knee injury.
>>
>> The Red Sox have had so many generational talents, but none more 
>> iconic than the late, greatΒ  Hall of Famer Ted Williams:
>>
>> The hitting hitch explained:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_eKWTnv9_WQ?feature=share
>>
>> No hitch!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PCSKIZsTzeg?feature=share
>>
>> Scientific pitching choice and great with kids:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UOohZcPuvdg?feature=share
>>
>> ⚾️🧒
>>
> 
> Thank you very much for sharing! This group is sometimes a wonder of 
> interesting
> facts and education! =)

You're most welcome.

It's nice to branch out a bit, and that's an obscure Dodgers pun given 
their World Series win.

https://youtu.be/JNNIV9ss0us

42 (Branch Rickey decides on an integrated roster)

https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rickey-branch

"A conservative and religious man who notably refused to participate in 
Sunday ball games as a player and a manager, Rickey was anything but 
traditional in the way he approached baseball as an executive. He 
invented the modern farm system and the batting helmet, was an advocate 
for expansion into new markets and most notably broke the color barrier 
when he brought Jackie Robinson to the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1947."

πŸ‘

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#1475432

From"Carol" <cshenk@virginia-beach.com>
Date2024-11-27 18:04 +0000
Message-ID<vi7mvt$41tq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475311
D wrote:

> 
> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people
> bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very
> genuine!

Tailgate party.  Trucks flip the tail gate down and have a mass party
waiting for the game to open.  Burgers, hot dogs, some might have a
steak or so.

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#1475466

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-27 21:40 +0100
Message-ID<96f1c0ba-ac56-bca3-a761-c2caa7fbe259@example.net>
In reply to#1475432

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people
>> bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very
>> genuine!
>
> Tailgate party.  Trucks flip the tail gate down and have a mass party
> waiting for the game to open.  Burgers, hot dogs, some might have a
> steak or so.
>

Ahhh.... so that's where the name comes from! I've been wondering about 
it, but never looked it up. Thank you for scratching that itch! =)

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#1475591

From"Carol" <cshenk@virginia-beach.com>
Date2024-11-28 02:47 +0000
Message-ID<vi8lj8$cm0h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1475466
D wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
> 
> > D wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people
> > > bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very
> > > genuine!
> > 
> > Tailgate party.  Trucks flip the tail gate down and have a mass
> > party waiting for the game to open.  Burgers, hot dogs, some might
> > have a steak or so.
> > 
> 
> Ahhh.... so that's where the name comes from! I've been wondering
> about it, but never looked it up. Thank you for scratching that itch!
> =)

It was funny but I lived in a trailer park age 21-23.  We had the same
type of party long ago.  A televised game would come on and we'd bring
out our TVs with rabbit ears and turn them all on to the only channel
with the game.  We'd set up BBQ's if we had one and folks who didn't
have one would grill on your's.  Chicken franks were best most of us
could afford but it all worked out.  I'd make a ton of coleslaw  and
beans and some chicken dogs.  Folks would bring cheap beer and we'd
just have fun.

Just a day having a group party.  We called it a trailer gate party.
Trailers have a v-shaped front gate amd we'd set up by there ot bigger
grills would be perched in the center triangle of the hitch.

I don't think that was common.  It was just something us college
students would do.

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#1475628

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-11-28 11:47 +0100
Message-ID<a01eafbc-9bb0-eadf-f279-2be4dc36cc05@example.net>
In reply to#1475591

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
>>
>>> D wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This reminds me of baseball games I went to, and I found people
>>>> bbq:ing in the parking lot! Never seen that in europe. Felt very
>>>> genuine!
>>>
>>> Tailgate party.  Trucks flip the tail gate down and have a mass
>>> party waiting for the game to open.  Burgers, hot dogs, some might
>>> have a steak or so.
>>>
>>
>> Ahhh.... so that's where the name comes from! I've been wondering
>> about it, but never looked it up. Thank you for scratching that itch!
>> =)
>
> It was funny but I lived in a trailer park age 21-23.  We had the same
> type of party long ago.  A televised game would come on and we'd bring
> out our TVs with rabbit ears and turn them all on to the only channel
> with the game.  We'd set up BBQ's if we had one and folks who didn't
> have one would grill on your's.  Chicken franks were best most of us
> could afford but it all worked out.  I'd make a ton of coleslaw  and
> beans and some chicken dogs.  Folks would bring cheap beer and we'd
> just have fun.
>
> Just a day having a group party.  We called it a trailer gate party.
> Trailers have a v-shaped front gate amd we'd set up by there ot bigger
> grills would be perched in the center triangle of the hitch.
>
> I don't think that was common.  It was just something us college
> students would do.
>

Brings back memories! I think Busch was the cheap beer of choice when I 
was a student. It was ridiculously cheap! And guaranteed to have no 
flavour at all. ;)

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