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  [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-17 12:43 -0400
    Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> - 2024-03-17 10:03 -0700
      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-17 13:08 -0400
        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> - 2024-03-17 10:13 -0700
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-17 10:26 -0700
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> - 2024-03-17 10:34 -0700
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-17 12:38 -0700
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> - 2024-03-17 12:54 -0700
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-03-17 12:56 -0700
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-17 12:38 -0700
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> - 2024-03-17 12:55 -0700
              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-03-17 17:19 -0700
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-18 18:35 +1300
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-17 16:37 -0400
            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-18 03:26 -0700
              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-19 09:22 +1300
              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-18 22:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-18 22:05 -0700
              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-18 23:16 -0400
                Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-18 22:05 -0700
                  Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-19 11:54 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-19 11:54 -0700
                      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-21 01:34 -0700
                        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2024-03-22 00:56 +0000
                          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-21 18:27 -0700
                            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-03-21 18:56 -0700
                              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-23 00:07 -0700
                              Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-23 00:10 -0700
                            Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2024-03-22 02:00 +0000
        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-17 12:38 -0700
      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-03-17 10:35 -0700
        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-17 12:38 -0700
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-03-17 12:57 -0700
      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2024-03-17 12:38 -0700
      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-18 10:53 +1300
        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-17 18:36 -0400
    Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? EGK <memyself@null.net> - 2024-03-17 13:33 -0400
    Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2024-03-17 13:57 -0700
      Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-18 19:07 -0700
        Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2024-03-18 23:10 -0400
          Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2024-03-21 01:29 -0700
    Re: [OT] Why would someone murder an emu? Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2024-03-18 04:30 -0400

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#1785854

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:05:01 -0700
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 03:26:52 -0700
> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >   
> >> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:  
> >>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:13:42 -0700
> >>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>> On 3/17/2024 10:08 AM, Rhino wrote:    
> >>>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:03:22 -0700
> >>>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:      
> >>>>>>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an
> >>>>>>> emu that was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton,
> >>>>>>> Ontario.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing
> >>>>>>> side of The Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it
> >>>>>>> could only have been an act of revenge on the "crazy, emu
> >>>>>>> lady" as the owner says she was called.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ~~
> >>>>>>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war"
> >>>>>>> waged by humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century
> >>>>>>> ago. The humans lost.
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]   
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and
> >>>>>> Doug.... you'd understand.      
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I've never seen that ad so I'm afraid your reference is over my
> >>>>> head ;-)      
> >>>> 
> >>>> You might be able to find it on youtube.    
> >>> 
> >>> I wouldn't normally seek out a commercial - I hate them with a
> >>> passion
> >>> - but I did in this case. You were right: LiMu & Doug ads are
> >>> easily found on YouTube. This claims to be the complete
> >>> collection:
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxqeVurMOY
> >>> 
> >>>   
> >> 
> >> Delicious Canadian ice cream is mine!
> >>   
> > 
> > May I recommend Chapman's Ice Cream? It is a family-owned Canadian
> > ice cream maker and they make great ice cream. They even seem to
> > take food allergies seriously, according to their website:
> > 
> > https://www.chapmans.ca/content-attribute/peanut-free-nut-free/
> > 
> > 8 pages worth of guaranteed peanut-free and/or nut-free flavours so
> > it won't kill you - probably!
> >   
> 
> Wow!
> 

I've sent them an inquiry to see if they sell their stuff in the
Scottsdale/Phoenix area. Don't hold your breath though: I don't see
anything on their website to indicate that they operate *anywhere* in
the US. [Pause....] Oh crap! I just found their FAQ and there's a
question there about if Chapman's products are sold in the US and the
answer is a categorical "No, sorry". I guess you're going to have to
come up here to buy their products, unless you can figure out a way to
import them and keep them cold enough while in transit to survive the
trip....


-- 
Rhino

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#1785870

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:05:01 -0700
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 03:26:52 -0700
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:  
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:13:42 -0700
>>>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/17/2024 10:08 AM, Rhino wrote:    
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:03:22 -0700
>>>>>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:      
>>>>>>>>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an
>>>>>>>>> emu that was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton,
>>>>>>>>> Ontario.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing
>>>>>>>>> side of The Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it
>>>>>>>>> could only have been an act of revenge on the "crazy, emu
>>>>>>>>> lady" as the owner says she was called.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>>>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war"
>>>>>>>>> waged by humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century
>>>>>>>>> ago. The humans lost.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]   
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and
>>>>>>>> Doug.... you'd understand.      
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've never seen that ad so I'm afraid your reference is over my
>>>>>>> head ;-)      
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You might be able to find it on youtube.    
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wouldn't normally seek out a commercial - I hate them with a
>>>>> passion
>>>>> - but I did in this case. You were right: LiMu & Doug ads are
>>>>> easily found on YouTube. This claims to be the complete
>>>>> collection:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxqeVurMOY
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Delicious Canadian ice cream is mine!
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> May I recommend Chapman's Ice Cream? It is a family-owned Canadian
>>> ice cream maker and they make great ice cream. They even seem to
>>> take food allergies seriously, according to their website:
>>> 
>>> https://www.chapmans.ca/content-attribute/peanut-free-nut-free/
>>> 
>>> 8 pages worth of guaranteed peanut-free and/or nut-free flavours so
>>> it won't kill you - probably!
>>> 
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
> 
> I've sent them an inquiry to see if they sell their stuff in the
> Scottsdale/Phoenix area. Don't hold your breath though: I don't see
> anything on their website to indicate that they operate *anywhere* in
> the US. [Pause....] Oh crap! I just found their FAQ and there's a
> question there about if Chapman's products are sold in the US and the
> answer is a categorical "No, sorry". I guess you're going to have to
> come up here to buy their products, unless you can figure out a way to
> import them and keep them cold enough while in transit to survive the
> trip....
> 
> 

:)

Do I have to have a passport to get to where you are?

-- 
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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#1786023

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:54:10 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>Do I have to have a passport to get to where you are?

Assuming you're coming from the US -> Canada that or a Nexus card
which you've probably never heard of unless you live close to the
border. (It's aimed at those who frequently cross the border but is
NOT valid for commercial travellers as I found out the first time I
tried to use mine - so let it lapse when it expired in 5 years - it's
a US-Canada joint project to pre-approve frequent non-commercial
border crossers in both direction and involves fingerprinting and
criminal record checks)

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#1786141

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:54:10 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>:

>>Do I have to have a passport to get to where you are?

>Assuming you're coming from the US -> Canada that or a Nexus card
>which you've probably never heard of unless you live close to the
>border. (It's aimed at those who frequently cross the border but is
>NOT valid for commercial travellers as I found out the first time I
>tried to use mine - so let it lapse when it expired in 5 years - it's
>a US-Canada joint project to pre-approve frequent non-commercial
>border crossers in both direction and involves fingerprinting and
>criminal record checks)

Not valid for commercial travellers? It was negotiated in the original
NAFTA. Why wouldn't it be? It's a preclearance program, and I like the
bit that you clear customs at sea ports by phone in.

I've read descriptions of NEXUS and never read that. I am aware that
FAST is for truck drivers driving trucks with cargo, but if the
commercial goods are less than a truckload, I had no idea you needed
FAST.

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#1786142

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 00:56:19 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>Assuming you're coming from the US -> Canada that or a Nexus card
>>which you've probably never heard of unless you live close to the
>>border. (It's aimed at those who frequently cross the border but is
>>NOT valid for commercial travellers as I found out the first time I
>>tried to use mine - so let it lapse when it expired in 5 years - it's
>>a US-Canada joint project to pre-approve frequent non-commercial
>>border crossers in both direction and involves fingerprinting and
>>criminal record checks)
>
>Not valid for commercial travellers? It was negotiated in the original
>NAFTA. Why wouldn't it be? It's a preclearance program, and I like the
>bit that you clear customs at sea ports by phone in.

I was told by the Border Patrol at Blaine, WA if I tried to use a
Nexus card while bringing commercial goods into Customs I could expect
handcuffs. That clear enough for you? Now that was 5 years ago so
perhaps they've changed the rules but I was definitely told that and
the word 'handcuffs' was specifically used.

>I've read descriptions of NEXUS and never read that. I am aware that
>FAST is for truck drivers driving trucks with cargo, but if the
>commercial goods are less than a truckload, I had no idea you needed
>FAST.

My Dodge mini-van is definitely smaller than an 18-wheeler.

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#1786146

On 3/21/2024 6:27 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 00:56:19 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Assuming you're coming from the US -> Canada that or a Nexus card
>>> which you've probably never heard of unless you live close to the
>>> border. (It's aimed at those who frequently cross the border but is
>>> NOT valid for commercial travellers as I found out the first time I
>>> tried to use mine - so let it lapse when it expired in 5 years - it's
>>> a US-Canada joint project to pre-approve frequent non-commercial
>>> border crossers in both direction and involves fingerprinting and
>>> criminal record checks)
>>
>> Not valid for commercial travellers? It was negotiated in the original
>> NAFTA. Why wouldn't it be? It's a preclearance program, and I like the
>> bit that you clear customs at sea ports by phone in.
> 
> I was told by the Border Patrol at Blaine, WA if I tried to use a
> Nexus card while bringing commercial goods into Customs I could expect
> handcuffs. That clear enough for you? Now that was 5 years ago so
> perhaps they've changed the rules but I was definitely told that and
> the word 'handcuffs' was specifically used.
> 
I suspect the issue might be bringing commercial goods across the border 
in a private vehicle rather than a commercial truck of some sort.  But 
honestly I'm a bit suspicious of an agent threatening someone with 
handcuffs like that.  More context please?  What exactly was going on 
that the agent felt the need to say that?

-- 
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.

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#1786288

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 18:56:40 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>> I was told by the Border Patrol at Blaine, WA if I tried to use a
>> Nexus card while bringing commercial goods into Customs I could expect
>> handcuffs. That clear enough for you? Now that was 5 years ago so
>> perhaps they've changed the rules but I was definitely told that and
>> the word 'handcuffs' was specifically used.
>> 
>I suspect the issue might be bringing commercial goods across the border 
>in a private vehicle rather than a commercial truck of some sort.  But 
>honestly I'm a bit suspicious of an agent threatening someone with 
>handcuffs like that.  More context please?  What exactly was going on 
>that the agent felt the need to say that?
>
Darned if I know - moments earlier I had just paid my fee and gotten
my card. Since I commonly (e.g. every 2-3 weeks pre-pandemic) made
trips to the US border town then cleared them through Canada Customs
(Commercial section) the Commercial people knew me though the NEXUS
people didn't.

But no question every bit of goods I crossed with was declared and
everything requiring payment was paid.

I'm not certain but believe the "handcuff" comment was in response to
his "non-commercial" comment when I said "but that's 75% of my
crossings!"

(It was a couple of years before the pandemic and I'm retired now so
at least personally the point is moot)

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#1786289

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 18:56:40 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>> I was told by the Border Patrol at Blaine, WA if I tried to use a
>> Nexus card while bringing commercial goods into Customs I could expect
>> handcuffs. That clear enough for you? Now that was 5 years ago so
>> perhaps they've changed the rules but I was definitely told that and
>> the word 'handcuffs' was specifically used.
>> 
>I suspect the issue might be bringing commercial goods across the border 
>in a private vehicle rather than a commercial truck of some sort.  But 
>honestly I'm a bit suspicious of an agent threatening someone with 
>handcuffs like that.  More context please?  What exactly was going on 
>that the agent felt the need to say that?
>
Since he didn't see my vehicle that's likely not the issue but it was
a Ford Escape of which there are zillions on the road. (It was store
owned though I bought it out on my retirement) Beyond that and what I
said in my previous posting I don't know. 

I certainly wasn't being Mr. Joe Smartass

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#1786148

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Fri, 22 Mar 2024 00:56:19 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>>Assuming you're coming from the US -> Canada that or a Nexus card
>>>which you've probably never heard of unless you live close to the
>>>border. (It's aimed at those who frequently cross the border but is
>>>NOT valid for commercial travellers as I found out the first time I
>>>tried to use mine - so let it lapse when it expired in 5 years - it's
>>>a US-Canada joint project to pre-approve frequent non-commercial
>>>border crossers in both direction and involves fingerprinting and
>>>criminal record checks)

>>Not valid for commercial travellers? It was negotiated in the original
>>NAFTA. Why wouldn't it be? It's a preclearance program, and I like the
>>bit that you clear customs at sea ports by phone in.

>I was told by the Border Patrol at Blaine, WA if I tried to use a
>Nexus card while bringing commercial goods into Customs I could expect
>handcuffs. That clear enough for you?

It needs to be clear enough to me on the descriptive Web page and
application. I don't know what the threshold of cargo is that FAST is
needed.

>Now that was 5 years ago so
>perhaps they've changed the rules but I was definitely told that and
>the word 'handcuffs' was specifically used.

>>I've read descriptions of NEXUS and never read that. I am aware that
>>FAST is for truck drivers driving trucks with cargo, but if the
>>commercial goods are less than a truckload, I had no idea you needed
>>FAST.

>My Dodge mini-van is definitely smaller than an 18-wheeler.

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#1785667

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:03:22 -0700
> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu
>>> that was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>>> 
>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>>> 
>>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of
>>> The Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have
>>> been an act of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says
>>> she was called.
>>> 
>>> ~~
>>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>>> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans
>>> lost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
>>> 
>> 
>> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and Doug.... 
>> you'd understand.
> 
> I've never seen that ad so I'm afraid your reference is over my head ;-)
> 

https://youtu.be/sI3RhwSF8mo?si=A12dHV9r67U4NZuL

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#1785648

On 3/17/2024 10:03 AM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>>
>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>>
>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
>> Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
>> of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called.
>>
>> ~~
>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
>>
> 
> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and Doug.... 
> you'd understand.

Last I saw they were setting Doug up to be murdered with a dropped baby 
grand piano so the subject line had me thinking they missed.  :P

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#1785666

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 3/17/2024 10:03 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>>> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>>> 
>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>>> 
>>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
>>> Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
>>> of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called.
>>> 
>>> ~~
>>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>>> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
>>> 
>> 
>> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and Doug.... 
>> you'd understand.
> 
> Last I saw they were setting Doug up to be murdered with a dropped baby 
> grand piano so the subject line had me thinking they missed.  :P
> 

HE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A MUSTACHE!

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#1785674

On 3/17/2024 12:38 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 3/17/2024 10:03 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>>> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>>>> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>>>>
>>>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
>>>> Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
>>>> of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called.
>>>>
>>>> ~~
>>>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>>>> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and Doug....
>>> you'd understand.
>>
>> Last I saw they were setting Doug up to be murdered with a dropped baby
>> grand piano so the subject line had me thinking they missed.  :P
>>
> 
> HE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A MUSTACHE!
> 
*slaps a fake mustache on crooked*

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#1785664

suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>> 
>> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>> 
>> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
>> Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
>> of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called.
>> 
>> ~~
>> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
>> 
> 
> If you've ever seen the Liberty Mutual ad with the LiMu and Doug.... 
> you'd understand.
> 

Liberty Bibury

I hate those commercials more than life itself

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#1785687

On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
> 
> https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D 
> 
> 
> Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
> Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
> of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called.
> 
> ~~
> [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
> humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
> 

Unfortuantely there are plenty of sickos and loonies out there who 
would do such a thing. Some of them would even think it was funny.  X-(


There was a news item a few years ago about a moron here in New Zealand 
who purposely stabbed a miniature horse over 40 times and killed it.  
X-(
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/man-arrested-after-miniature-horse-star-stabbed-41-times/YIG56QG5REF7XYSVAXNX4QWAYU/> 


The moron, who claims he doesn't remember doing it (probably drugged 
and boozed out of what little mind he has), was sentenced to a pitiful 
2.5 years, and got out 4 months early. Just looking at the photo you 
can tell is a complete lunatic who should be locked away for life.
<https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/horse-killer-be-released-early>

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#1785688

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:53:33 +1300
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> On 3/17/2024 9:43 AM, Rhino wrote:
> > That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu
> > that was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
> > 
> > https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D 
> > 
> > 
> > Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of
> > The Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have
> > been an act of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says
> > she was called.
> > 
> > ~~
> > [1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
> > humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans
> > lost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]
> >   
> 
> Unfortuantely there are plenty of sickos and loonies out there who 
> would do such a thing. Some of them would even think it was funny.
> X-(
> 
> 
> There was a news item a few years ago about a moron here in New
> Zealand who purposely stabbed a miniature horse over 40 times and
> killed it. X-(
> <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/man-arrested-after-miniature-horse-star-stabbed-41-times/YIG56QG5REF7XYSVAXNX4QWAYU/> 
> 
> 
> The moron, who claims he doesn't remember doing it (probably drugged 
> and boozed out of what little mind he has), was sentenced to a
> pitiful 2.5 years, and got out 4 months early. Just looking at the
> photo you can tell is a complete lunatic who should be locked away
> for life.
> <https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/horse-killer-be-released-early>
> 
> 
We had a case where a trio of guys made a video of
themselves grabbing a neighbour's cat and skinning it alive. They said
it was an art project and also a political statement condemning the
eating of meat. 

https://web.archive.org/web/20160307154330/https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-85497262.html

Various Toronto artists actually DEFENDED this! This guy was one of
them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubal_Brown

Apparently, if you fancy yourself an intellectual, you can do whatever
the fuck you want....

As I recall from the news coverage, the judge who tried this trio of cat
killers said it was the most heinous thing he'd ever heard of so he
"threw the book at them". He sentenced them to three months in jail and
since they'd been held in jail for that long awaiting trial, they had
already served the sentence and were free immediately. 

I just did a search and can't find anything on Jesse Powell, the leader
of the trio, from after the trial. (There are lots of hits for Jesse
Powell but I don't think any of them are him.) Maybe he learned his
lesson. Or simply changed his name. What a despicable excuse for a
human being!


-- 
Rhino

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#1785645

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:43:43 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:

>That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>
>https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/everybodys-in-shock-family-reeling-after-intruders-brutally-kill-pet-emu-in-rural-haldimand/article_baf366d5-da12-5866-aae6-046fa3794342.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhCUUsUgQ-5hmOyqGMpcOCriKhQICiIQlFLFIEPuYZjsqhjKXDgq4jDpic4B&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_nLjVWrdQ-EYvCCw-ZfIawKg1UpbJaEPfXNW8dNFUi5ZxOlye1EE_9ANS8JaXSYgqEdKxSEBg%3D%3D&gaa_ts=65f70050&gaa_sig=V4EftU8dmcB0WqdCvZ4olgtekw6D4H36j0r_pi9N9quaoeTapiT3FqJ-j5MXlYxF3nU-kofhPOMwUZAF7Y-H8A%3D%3D
>
>Unless the killer was a descendant of someone on the losing side of The
>Emu War in Australia [1], this seems like it could only have been an act
>of revenge on the "crazy, emu lady" as the owner says she was called. 
>
>~~ 
>[1] No, I didn't make that up. There actually was a "war" waged by
>humans against emus in Australia, nearly a century ago. The humans lost.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiYxSWrkdY [5 minutes]

Obviously the fault of the owners.  They didnt leave their car keys by the
door like the Toronto police suggest to prevent things like this.  

Soon leftists will tell you to leave your car keys, your wallet and jewlry
and your hot daughters near the door so people breaking in will leave you
alone.

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#1785685

In article <20240317124343.0000672c@example.com>,
 Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.

If the emu in question was named Limu, there's your answer.

Liberty Biberty.

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#1785795

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 13:57:52 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <20240317124343.0000672c@example.com>,
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu that
>> was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.
>
>If the emu in question was named Limu, there's your answer.
>
>Liberty Biberty.

Uh which rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario? A farmer's farm or
something commercial? (There are plenty of such areas E of Hamilton
and W of Niagara Falls)

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#1785798

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:07:49 -0700
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 13:57:52 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> >In article <20240317124343.0000672c@example.com>,
> > Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> That was the question on my mind as I read this story about an emu
> >> that was murdered in a rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario.  
> >
> >If the emu in question was named Limu, there's your answer.
> >
> >Liberty Biberty.  
> 
> Uh which rural area outside Hamilton, Ontario? A farmer's farm or
> something commercial? (There are plenty of such areas E of Hamilton
> and W of Niagara Falls)


The article says near Fisherville in Haldimand County. I've never heard
of Fisherville so I found it in Google maps and it's not far from
Nelles Corners and Hagersville. It's also not too far from Six Nations
which has been "problematic" for a long time. (I remember hearing about
a tire fire near Six Nations about 30 years ago and a local I met at
the time said everybody knew exactly who was responsible: an Indian who
I think was 16 at the time. That fire apparently burned for DAYS....
That young OPP officer who was killed on his first day driving alone
was murdered in that area by a repeat offender from Six Nations. There
have also been violent clashes between Indians objecting to the
building of houses on what they claim is their land over the years in
that area. 

Or maybe the perp is some other jerk.

-- 
Rhino

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