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"The Vote is in" by David Weber

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  "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 20:31 -0500
    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2018-06-20 09:23 -0400
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-20 09:54 -0700
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-20 17:26 +0000
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 18:22 +0000
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-20 19:37 +0000
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-21 10:06 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 17:13 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-22 10:32 -0700
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:47 +0000
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:49 +0000
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 12:40 -0500
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 19:18 +0000
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 20:15 +0000
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 20:40 +0000
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-20 15:24 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 22:33 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 -0700
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 17:43 -0700
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:22 -0700
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2018-06-27 11:24 -0700
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 06:24 -0700
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 09:15 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-21 09:43 -0500
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-21 15:56 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 22:26 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-20 15:33 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:12 -0700
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 00:05 +0000
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 01:10 +0000
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:47 -0400
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 19:16 -0700
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:19 -0700
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 02:22 +0000
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:19 -0700
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 17:44 -0700
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:24 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-21 17:02 +0000
                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 17:37 +0000
                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 13:31 +0000
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 13:35 +0000
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 15:52 +0000
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 17:45 +0100
                            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:00 +0000
                              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:05 +0000
                                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:39 +0000
                                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:23 -0400
                                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 21:08 +0000
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 00:01 -0400
                                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-22 19:46 +0000
                                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 13:24 -0700
                                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 14:06 -0700
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 21:27 -0700
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-06-23 10:08 +0100
                                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 21:10 +0000
                                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-22 19:45 +0000
                              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:14 -0600
                                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-25 14:15 +0000
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:13 -0600
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:28 -0700
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:41 +0000
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:43 -0700
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 21:30 -0700
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:36 +0000
                            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-06-23 10:49 -0700
                              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:50 +0000
                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 12:25 -0600
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:17 +0000
                          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 14:11 -0700
                            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:47 +0000
                              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:12 -0600
                                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 05:57 +0000
                                  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:01 -0700
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:32 -0700
                                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:43 -0700
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-25 17:47 +0000
                                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 11:08 -0700
                                      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-26 00:09 -0600
                        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-25 14:42 +0000
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2018-06-27 11:22 -0700
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-21 09:43 -0700
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 07:04 -0700
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 07:21 -0700
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber mvp@web1.calweb.com (Mike Van Pelt) - 2018-06-22 23:46 +0000
    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber MIKEN <burdsman35@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 18:31 -0700
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 01:46 +0000
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 21:41 -0700

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#494011

In article <slrnpipui9.4l0.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>On 2018-06-21, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a Kobo for ebooks and a laptop for work and browsing [1]. I am
>> not keen on buying another device just to deal with pdfs.
>
>Pretty sure a Kobo can read PDFs.
>
>In fact, a quick search says that they can:
>https://www.kobo.com/help/en-US/article/3484/reading-pdfas-on-your-kobo-ereader

It can but the experience is ... unpleasant. 
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#494021

In article <pgitvb$opm$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <slrnpipui9.4l0.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>On 2018-06-21, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Kobo for ebooks and a laptop for work and browsing [1]. I am
>>> not keen on buying another device just to deal with pdfs.
>>
>>Pretty sure a Kobo can read PDFs.
>>
>>In fact, a quick search says that they can:
>>https://www.kobo.com/help/en-US/article/3484/reading-pdfas-on-your-kobo-ereader
>
>It can but the experience is ... unpleasant. 

Speaking of things one can do with a Kobo, it is possible but not in
any way recommended save as a last resort to browse the web using the
Kobo. Not just the store (although that's where it will helpfully send
you if it can) but FB, twitter, the other interwebs. Just don't expect
the battery to last long if you try, and expect the experience to be 
slow and painful.
-- 
My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

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#494024

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

>In article <pgitvb$opm$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>In article <slrnpipui9.4l0.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>>Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>>On 2018-06-21, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Kobo for ebooks and a laptop for work and browsing [1]. I am
>>>> not keen on buying another device just to deal with pdfs.
>>>
>>>Pretty sure a Kobo can read PDFs.
>>>
>>>In fact, a quick search says that they can:
>>>https://www.kobo.com/help/en-US/article/3484/reading-pdfas-on-your-kobo-ereader
>>
>>It can but the experience is ... unpleasant. 
>
>Speaking of things one can do with a Kobo, it is possible but not in
>any way recommended save as a last resort to browse the web using the
>Kobo. Not just the store (although that's where it will helpfully send
>you if it can) but FB, twitter, the other interwebs. Just don't expect
>the battery to last long if you try, and expect the experience to be 
>slow and painful.

The Kindle can do this as well, with similar drawbacks. I believe the
browser is included for when using wifi in restaurants, pubs, etc,
which require a password to be entered via a browser.
 

-- 
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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#494027

On 2018-06-22, Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
> Nicoll) wrote:

>>Speaking of things one can do with a Kobo, it is possible but not in
>>any way recommended save as a last resort to browse the web using the
>>Kobo. Not just the store (although that's where it will helpfully send
>>you if it can) but FB, twitter, the other interwebs. Just don't expect
>>the battery to last long if you try, and expect the experience to be 
>>slow and painful.
>
> The Kindle can do this as well, with similar drawbacks. I believe the
> browser is included for when using wifi in restaurants, pubs, etc,
> which require a password to be entered via a browser.

This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
general-purpose handheld computer.

Mind you, I'm of the "computer" variety of nerd.
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read John Grant's book, Corrupted Science: http://a.co/9UsUoGu 
Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

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#494028

In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>
>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>general-purpose handheld computer.

I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
and it's very light.
-- 
My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

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#494039

On 2018-06-22, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
> Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>
>>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>general-purpose handheld computer.
>
> I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
> and it's very light.

I'm sure it's perfect for your use.

I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
typical device buyer.
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read John Grant's book, Corrupted Science: http://a.co/9UsUoGu 
Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

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#494051

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:

>On 2018-06-22, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>> Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>>general-purpose handheld computer.
>>
>> I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
>> and it's very light.
>
>I'm sure it's perfect for your use.
>
>I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>typical device buyer.

Wait, is that all?

I have two desktop computers (one Mac, one Windows), two laptops, a
tablet, and a smartphone, and I'm very surprised if I really have more
gadgetry than you do.



-- 
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Stone Unturned:  A Legend of Ethshar.
See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml

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#494066

On 2018-06-22, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
> wrote:

>>I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>>smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>>server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>>typical device buyer.
>
> Wait, is that all?
>
> I have two desktop computers (one Mac, one Windows), two laptops, a
> tablet, and a smartphone, and I'm very surprised if I really have more
> gadgetry than you do.

Does that include devices your wife uses?

For years now, I've given away anything I don't anticipate using again. My
sister got two laptops, for instance. I've given away at least two tablets
over the years as well.

I don't own a house, as you do, so I have constrained storage space.
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read John Grant's book, Corrupted Science: http://a.co/9UsUoGu 
Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

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#494102

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:08:43 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:

>On 2018-06-22, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>>I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>>>smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>>>server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>>>typical device buyer.
>>
>> Wait, is that all?
>>
>> I have two desktop computers (one Mac, one Windows), two laptops, a
>> tablet, and a smartphone, and I'm very surprised if I really have more
>> gadgetry than you do.
>
>Does that include devices your wife uses?

No.  She has a large laptop and an iPhone.

>For years now, I've given away anything I don't anticipate using again. My
>sister got two laptops, for instance. I've given away at least two tablets
>over the years as well.
>
>I don't own a house, as you do, so I have constrained storage space.

That would indeed make a difference.



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My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Stone Unturned:  A Legend of Ethshar.
See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml

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#494060

Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> writes:
>On 2018-06-22, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>> Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>>general-purpose handheld computer.
>>
>> I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
>> and it's very light.
>
>I'm sure it's perfect for your use.
>
>I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>typical device buyer.

Heck, I have two vlans, a DMZ and four externally facing servers in addition
to the desktops, laptops and a android tablet.  Yet
the Nook is far superior to a more general-purpose tablet or handheld
computer.

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#494061

On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 3:47:02 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> writes:

> >I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
> >smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
> >server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
> >typical device buyer.
> 
> Heck, I have two vlans, a DMZ and four externally facing servers in addition
> to the desktops, laptops and a android tablet.  Yet
> the Nook is far superior to a more general-purpose tablet or handheld
> computer.

ObComic Strips: 

/strip/1992-12-31

Dilbert v TechnoBill? 

Kevin R
(I have a 100 pairs of stretch socks....)

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#494065

On 6/22/2018 12:46 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> writes:
>> On 2018-06-22, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>>> Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>>> Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>>> ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>>> astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>>> general-purpose handheld computer.
>>>
>>> I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
>>> and it's very light.
>>
>> I'm sure it's perfect for your use.
>>
>> I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>> smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>> server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>> typical device buyer.
> 
> Heck, I have two vlans, a DMZ and four externally facing servers in addition
> to the desktops, laptops and a android tablet.  Yet
> the Nook is far superior to a more general-purpose tablet or handheld
> computer.
> 
"a DMZ" O_o  Your computers have a tendency to war with each other?

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#494104

On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 3:06:18 PM UTC-6, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

> "a DMZ" O_o  Your computers have a tendency to war with each other?

Nah. That's for the war between you and your computers and those nasty hackers who 
are lurking out there on the Internet.

John Savard

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#494110

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:06:20 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 6/22/2018 12:46 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> writes:
>>> On 2018-06-22, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>>>> Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>>>> Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>>>> ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>>>> astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>>>> general-purpose handheld computer.
>>>>
>>>> I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
>>>> and it's very light.
>>>
>>> I'm sure it's perfect for your use.
>>>
>>> I'm the person who currently owns three computers, a tablet and a
>>> smartphone, not counting my work tablet and computer. And I have my own
>>> server, to go with my two externally-hosted blogs. I really am not the
>>> typical device buyer.
>> 
>> Heck, I have two vlans, a DMZ and four externally facing servers in addition
>> to the desktops, laptops and a android tablet.  Yet
>> the Nook is far superior to a more general-purpose tablet or handheld
>> computer.
>> 
>"a DMZ" O_o  Your computers have a tendency to war with each other?

DMZ is a poor name, it's a nook of your network that faces the Internet
but is isolated from the rest of your internal network. You use it (as
Scott does) to put in Internet-facing servers for websites or whatever
to prevent any hijackers from using them as a stepping stone onto your
more personal machines.

Usually you'd set them up so you can push updates from your personal
machine to a DMZ machine, but it's a one-way thing.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
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abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the
last time you needed one?"                  - Tom Cargil, C++ Journal

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#494068

On 2018-06-22, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

> Heck, I have two vlans, a DMZ and four externally facing servers in addition
> to the desktops, laptops and a android tablet.  Yet
> the Nook is far superior to a more general-purpose tablet or handheld
> computer.

Maybe for you, is all I can say to that. I acknowledge the battery thing but
it never affects me. I can read the glowing screen just fine, and its lesser
visibility in bright late has never really made a difference to me.

Not challenging your reaction, just saying that people's preferences differ.
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

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Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

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#494059

jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:
>In article <slrnpiqaph.9qb.carlf@panix5.panix.com>,
>Carl Fink  <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
>>
>>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>general-purpose handheld computer.
>
>I like my Kobo because the battery lasts a couple of weeks between charges
>and it's very light.

I like my original Nooks for the same reason, plus the e-ink is much
more suited to reading outdoors when compared with standard tablet
screens.

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#494175

Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:

>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>general-purpose handheld computer.
>
>Mind you, I'm of the "computer" variety of nerd.

I use the eReader (originally Sony, currently Kobo) if I want to read
books in full sunlight.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#494181

On 2018-06-25, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>This is, of course, why I bought an Android tablet (which can read Kobo and
>>Kindle books, should I so desire) rather than a dedicated company-store
>>ereader.  Ereaders have advantages--the old paperwhite Kindles had
>>astonishingly long battery life--but I'm much happier with a more
>>general-purpose handheld computer.
>>
>>Mind you, I'm of the "computer" variety of nerd.
>
> I use the eReader (originally Sony, currently Kobo) if I want to read
> books in full sunlight.

"... Ereaders have advantages ..."
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read John Grant's book, Corrupted Science: http://a.co/9UsUoGu 
Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

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#494174

jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:


>Speaking of things one can do with a Kobo, it is possible but not in
>any way recommended save as a last resort to browse the web using the
>Kobo. Not just the store (although that's where it will helpfully send
>you if it can) but FB, twitter, the other interwebs. Just don't expect
>the battery to last long if you try, and expect the experience to be 
>slow and painful.

My first Kobo did not have WiFi, if I remember right.  My current one
does.  
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#494034

Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote in
news:slrnpipui9.4l0.carlf@panix5.panix.com: 

> On 2018-06-21, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have a Kobo for ebooks and a laptop for work and browsing
>> [1]. I am not keen on buying another device just to deal with
>> pdfs. 
> 
> Pretty sure a Kobo can read PDFs.
> 
> In fact, a quick search says that they can:
> https://www.kobo.com/help/en-US/article/3484/reading-pdfas-on-you
> r-kobo-ereader 

The screen is generally too small, and while PDFs can be zoomed, they 
don't re-flow when you do.

Trying to read a PDF on my 7" tablet would be pretty much impossible.

-- 
Terry Austin

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