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  DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-26 20:58 -0700
    Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 01:44 -0400
      Re: DNA test results Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2018-10-27 09:26 -0400
      Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:24 -0700
      Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:34 -0700
      Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:37 +0000
        Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-27 18:21 +0000
          Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:00 +0000
            Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-27 20:57 +0000
              Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:28 -0400
                Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 09:29 +0100
                  Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 20:31 -0400
                Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 14:45 +0000
                  Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 16:06 +0100
                    Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 22:45 +0000
                Re: DNA test results Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2018-10-29 02:03 -0300
              Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 22:35 +0000
                Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-27 16:00 -0700
                  Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:39 +0000
                    Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-27 22:40 -0700
                      Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:19 -0400
                      Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 14:48 +0000
                        Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-28 09:35 -0700
                          Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 14:38 -0400
                            Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 20:29 +0000
                              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-28 13:46 -0700
                                Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-28 13:53 -0700
                          Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 20:17 +0000
                            Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 16:39 -0400
                            Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-28 19:37 -0700
                              Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-29 04:44 +0000
                      Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 22:30 +0000
                        Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 23:36 +0100
                        Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 23:46 +0100
                          Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 00:02 +0100
                            Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 05:16 +0000
                          Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <throbbingsausage@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 05:15 +0000
                            Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 20:00 +0100
                              Re: DNA test results Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 12:52 -0700
                              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-30 22:53 -0700
              Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:13 -0400
              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 17:12 -0700
              Re: DNA test results goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-10-29 06:20 +0000
                Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-29 12:53 +0000
                  Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 22:05 -0400
                  Re: DNA test results Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-10-29 20:29 -0700
                Re: DNA test results Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 08:26 -0700
          Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:16 -0400
          Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 17:10 -0700
          Re: DNA test results synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2018-10-28 22:19 -0700
    Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:13 -0700

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#501406

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:57:42 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com: 
>>
>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>> 
>>>>You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>> 
>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>>> Neanderthal DNA.
>>
>>That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that 
>>Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
>
>Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least. 

Or a tentacle, or a nose, or some other appendage that can press a
key.  Or could be a large flying insect that divebombs the keyboard.
Or could be a cockroach--if Archy could work a mechanical typewriter
by jumping on the keys, some other cockroach could certainly work a
modern electronic keyboard. Or could be crawling on a touchscreen.  Or
could have a direct electrical connection--could be, for example, an
electric catfish working by coded impulses.

Just a few possibilities.

> And probably, eyes.

Does it ever actually respond to posts?

>So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
>
>Caution: thread drift ahead ...
>
>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>Experiment."  The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76,
>invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could
>look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't).
>But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a
>mixture of humanoid and scorpion.
>
>And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form."
>
>But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes
>(look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you
>would have to regress back to the Failure to Respond to an Office Action(look him up too),
>which no one has found any traces of, though some of the
>Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens.
>
>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
>keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."

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#501409

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> 
> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
> >news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
> >
> >> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> >> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
> >>>@gioia.aioe.org:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but, but...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but what would it find?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> maybe, maybe...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
> >>>>>
> >>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
> >>>>
> >>>You're an optomist, aren't you?
> >>
> >> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
> >> Neanderthal DNA.
> >
> >That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
> >Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
> 
> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.
> 
> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
> 
> Caution: thread drift ahead ...
> 
> There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
> Experiment."  The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76,
> invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could
> look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't).
> But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a
> mixture of humanoid and scorpion.
> 
> And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form."
> 
> But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes
> (look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you
> would have to regress back to the Urbilaterian (look him up too),
> which no one has found any traces of, though some of the
> Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens.
> 
> So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
> keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
> 
> --
> Dorothy J. Heydt
> Vallejo, California
> djheydt at gmail dot com
> www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/


I'm regressing back to my martian form...

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#501477

In article <pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>Experiment."  [...]
>
>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
>keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."

That episode really annoyed me. Every time TV and movies address
the topic of immortality, they trot out the same tired old arguments
against it -- it doesn't matter how much you have, but how well
you use it, that kind of thing.

And in this episode, those same arguments come out the mouth...
...of the thousand-year-old man with twelve lives. From where
they ring more than a little hollow to my ears.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |"We were walking backwards because if we walked
goldfarbdj@gmail.com       | forwards our eyeballs would freeze."
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |               -- Graydon

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#501488

In article <pHCK9s.12ts@kithrup.com>,
David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>>Experiment."  [...]
>>
>>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
>>keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
>
>That episode really annoyed me. Every time TV and movies address
>the topic of immortality, they trot out the same tired old arguments
>against it -- it doesn't matter how much you have, but how well
>you use it, that kind of thing.
>
>And in this episode, those same arguments come out the mouth...
>...of the thousand-year-old man with twelve lives. From where
>they ring more than a little hollow to my ears.

What the Doctor said, in that context was, "You live long enough,
you find yourself alone."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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#501549

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:53:27 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <pHCK9s.12ts@kithrup.com>,
>David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>,
>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>>>Experiment."  [...]
>>>
>>>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
>>>keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
>>
>>That episode really annoyed me. Every time TV and movies address
>>the topic of immortality, they trot out the same tired old arguments
>>against it -- it doesn't matter how much you have, but how well
>>you use it, that kind of thing.
>>
>>And in this episode, those same arguments come out the mouth...
>>...of the thousand-year-old man with twelve lives. From where
>>they ring more than a little hollow to my ears.
>
>What the Doctor said, in that context was, "You live long enough,
>you find yourself alone."

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE> from a movie about
another very old man who had the same problem.

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#501553

On Monday, 29 October 2018 13:05:02 UTC, Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:
> In article <pHCK9s.12ts@kithrup.com>,
> David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>,
> >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
> >>Experiment."  [...]
> >>
> >>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
> >>keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
> >
> >That episode really annoyed me. Every time TV and movies address
> >the topic of immortality, they trot out the same tired old arguments
> >against it -- it doesn't matter how much you have, but how well
> >you use it, that kind of thing.
> >
> >And in this episode, those same arguments come out the mouth...
> >...of the thousand-year-old man with twelve lives. From where
> >they ring more than a little hollow to my ears.
> 
> What the Doctor said, in that context was, "You live long enough,
> you find yourself alone."

I suppose that's in the context of a mid life crisis that
has him getting involved with a series of much younger women...
possibly from 1984 (_The Caves of Androzani_) onwards.
("Andro zani" = crazy man?  But in the story in question, there 
are several.)

Or maybe since 1970, when he did suddenly break out in colour
(and plucky girl assistants)...  isn't that another sign??

In that case, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisterhood_of_Karn>
...good lord, what a picture.  Anyway, that was another encounter 
with immortality which the Doctor theoretically rejected...
forty-some years ago, so, yes, might be considered hypocritical.

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#501493

goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) wrote in
news:pHCK9s.12ts@kithrup.com: 

> In article <pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>>Experiment."  [...]
>>
>>So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes,
>>I keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
> 
> That episode really annoyed me. Every time TV and movies address
> the topic of immortality, they trot out the same tired old
> arguments against it -- it doesn't matter how much you have, but
> how well you use it, that kind of thing.
> 
> And in this episode, those same arguments come out the mouth...
> ...of the thousand-year-old man with twelve lives. From where
> they ring more than a little hollow to my ears.
> 
Kind of like the Equalizer episode where McCall is ranting about the 
need for gun control while in his personal, and extremely illegal, 
secret arsenal, just before he goes and kills the bad guy as an act 
of vigilantism.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#501399

On 10/27/2018 2:21 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>
>>>> but, but...
>>>>
>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>
>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>
>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
> 
> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
> Neanderthal DNA.  I suspect I have some, but I'm not going to
> spend money I haven't got, just to test it.  You've probably already
> seen this reconstruction of a Neanderthal woman, based on
> sequenced DNA:
> 
> ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=726&ei=VqvUW7fcLMqb0wKxsLrQBw&q=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&oq=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&gs_l=img.3..0.1687.6921..7239...0.0..0.104.2148.31j1......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i30j0i8i30.PuQkUUqPFEM#imgdii=1KnyB2vgqznndM:&imgrc=rw8g9Ahq8PN2YM:&spf=1540664163376
> 
> Red hair, green/hazel eyes, freckles.  I had reddish hair and
> freckles when I was young; so did my daughter; so does my
> grandson.  My father had green eyes; my mother had hazel eyes; so
> does my daughter.  So there's a little bit there.
> 
Red hair is from Neanderthals???!!!

Well THAT sure explains a lot about what we all know about redheads!
Also explains how humans ended up cross-breeding with Neanderthals.

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#501408

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> 
> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
> >@gioia.aioe.org:
> >
> >> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> >>>
> >>> but, but...
> >>>
> >>> but what would it find?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> maybe, maybe...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I got some Martian ancestors!
> >>>
> >> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
> >>
> >You're an optomist, aren't you?
> 
> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
> Neanderthal DNA.  I suspect I have some, but I'm not going to
> spend money I haven't got, just to test it.  You've probably already
> seen this reconstruction of a Neanderthal woman, based on
> sequenced DNA:
> 
> ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=726&ei=VqvUW7fcLMqb0wKxsLrQBw&q=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&oq=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&gs_l=img.3..0.1687.6921..7239...0.0..0.104.2148.31j1......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i30j0i8i30.PuQkUUqPFEM#imgdii=1KnyB2vgqznndM:&imgrc=rw8g9Ahq8PN2YM:&spf=1540664163376
> 
> Red hair, green/hazel eyes, freckles.  I had reddish hair and
> freckles when I was young; so did my daughter; so does my
> grandson.  My father had green eyes; my mother had hazel eyes; so
> does my daughter.  So there's a little bit there.
> 
> --
> Dorothy J. Heydt
> Vallejo, California
> djheydt at gmail dot com
> www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/


martians have red hair...

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#501476

Actually I know a hot babe sci fi author who seems to be proud of her neanderthal dna.

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#501386

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> 
> but, but...
> 
> but what would it find?
> 
> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> 
> maybe, maybe...
> 
> I got some Martian ancestors!


I mean, if my family tree has a tail,

or attennas...it should show

up on the DNA results.

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