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| First post | 2018-05-14 16:21 -0700 |
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Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer lynnmcguire5@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 16:21 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-14 23:38 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Greg Weeks <gweeks.durendal@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 05:31 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-15 08:19 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-15 16:50 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 12:55 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-15 19:06 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 18:42 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-16 02:13 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-05-15 19:26 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 15:41 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 14:17 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2018-05-17 07:16 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:51 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:00 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-17 21:14 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 17:59 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 18:02 -0400
LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-18 13:41 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-18 02:06 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-18 14:52 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 23:32 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-05-17 22:03 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:35 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-18 05:46 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 21:27 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-19 13:42 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 17:29 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@kithrup.com (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-19 06:08 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:38 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-18 04:19 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 15:58 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-18 14:12 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-05-18 18:25 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-19 18:51 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-19 20:06 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 03:19 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-20 04:05 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 04:16 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 00:46 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 01:11 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 05:29 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 02:27 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 04:16 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 19:48 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 16:50 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:33 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-22 19:35 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-22 12:42 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:25 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-22 21:03 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-05-23 15:02 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 18:17 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-23 16:24 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-23 05:27 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:33 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-05-21 14:53 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2018-05-22 00:34 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 03:06 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:18 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 08:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-05 17:43 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:17 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:03 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 13:21 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-06 20:55 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-07 20:49 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 21:54 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 08:21 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-08 15:45 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:14 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:54 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-10 18:23 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-11 08:12 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-08 11:57 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:57 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-11 19:33 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-14 22:49 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-06-14 23:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-15 22:10 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-16 08:49 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-06-08 13:25 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:08 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-11 01:00 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-07 19:42 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-07 20:22 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> - 2018-06-08 10:07 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-08 08:39 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 16:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> - 2018-06-09 18:30 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 19:28 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 21:55 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 04:11 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 16:51 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:13 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-10 18:32 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-10 21:34 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 10:05 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-09 11:33 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:57 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-09 18:07 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 20:45 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-10 01:07 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-10 17:18 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 01:59 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-06-10 18:10 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2018-06-10 13:41 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:11 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-07 22:28 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:09 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-15 15:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-20 06:56 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-20 20:11 +0300
Re: LWE -Copyright news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2018-05-21 12:07 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-20 00:39 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-05-20 11:27 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-20 13:52 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-20 15:59 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 04:50 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-21 00:05 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 16:05 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-21 14:30 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 22:57 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 16:13 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 23:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 01:01 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 13:19 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-22 17:44 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-22 18:54 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 13:13 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:28 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 03:47 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 07:25 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-20 07:00 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 11:56 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 16:03 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 12:52 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-05-20 13:26 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-05-20 19:06 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 21:04 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-21 04:04 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 11:48 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 00:39 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 12:05 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-17 08:07 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 12:26 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-17 17:29 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 17:41 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-17 23:02 -0600
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:18 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-18 08:18 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:11 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0500
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| From | Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 14:52 +1200 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <pdlf5f$qrb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #492144 |
On 18/05/18 14:06, David Goldfarb wrote: > In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >> On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> >>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >> >> The two most >> recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >> whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours > > "Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? > I'm afraid I don't see it. I just checked Fantastic Fiction where the above books are shown as by Nathan Archer but on the suspect copyright ebook site the first two books I saw were as above and by Lawrence Watt-Evans.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 23:32 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <t6isfd9bg4nti1fvcuj3cqabbdhi6pgucr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #492144 |
On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) wrote: >In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> >>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >> >>The two most >>recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours > >"Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >I'm afraid I don't see it. The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete Jungle". I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually check the site in question before criticizing?
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 22:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <pdlmr6$uin$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #492150 |
On 5/17/2018 8:32 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David > Goldfarb) wrote: > >> In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> >>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >>> >>> The two most >>> recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>> whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours >> >> "Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >> I'm afraid I don't see it. > > The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete > Jungle". > > I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually > check the site in question before criticizing? > In this age of instant social media condemnation? Yes, yes it is. -- Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation instinct are running screaming.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 03:35 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <6f0tfdphei0t6doq3ivenk2anad3pagik9@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492150 |
On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:32:46 -0400, J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David >Goldfarb) wrote: > >>In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> >>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >>> >>>The two most >>>recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>>whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours >> >>"Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >>I'm afraid I don't see it. > >The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete >Jungle". > >I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually >check the site in question before criticizing? I did. It's illegal; these books are pirated. Please don't patronize this site. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar. See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 05:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <b50e9e63-a933-443c-a395-dc97a33ad60e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492156 |
On Friday, 18 May 2018 08:35:02 UTC+1, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:32:46 -0400, J. Clarke > <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David > >Goldfarb) wrote: > > > >>In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>>On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > >>> > >>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized > >>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't > >>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. > >>> > >>>The two most > >>>recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author > >>>whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours > >> > >>"Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? > >>I'm afraid I don't see it. > > > >The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete > >Jungle". > > > >I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually > >check the site in question before criticizing? > > I did. It's illegal; these books are pirated. Please don't patronize > this site. I may sneer behind its back, if that's all right. I seem to have got the expression mentally muddled with "Blackboard Jungle", and was imagining an invisible alien monster teaching troubled high school kids. _The Concrete Jungle_ appears to be a prison movie which then got remade with a female cast before _Ghost Busters_ did.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 21:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <e9vufdhpgsnh25jhehhjvcn0aocq700i7i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #492156 |
On Fri, 18 May 2018 03:35:01 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote: >On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:32:46 -0400, J. Clarke ><jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David >>Goldfarb) wrote: >> >>>In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >>>> >>>>The two most >>>>recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>>>whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours >>> >>>"Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >>>I'm afraid I don't see it. >> >>The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete >>Jungle". >> >>I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually >>check the site in question before criticizing? > >I did. It's illegal; these books are pirated. Please don't patronize >this site. I wasn't suggesting that they were legal, I was suggesting that he should have looked before he started correcting people to make sure that the correction was in order.
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| From | Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-19 13:42 +1200 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <pdnve3$7um$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #492190 |
On 19/05/18 13:27, J. Clarke wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 03:35:01 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans > <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:32:46 -0400, J. Clarke >> <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David >>> Goldfarb) wrote: >>> >>>> In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>>>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>>>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >>>>> >>>>> The two most >>>>> recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>>>> whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours >>>> >>>> "Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >>>> I'm afraid I don't see it. >>> >>> The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete >>> Jungle". >>> >>> I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually >>> check the site in question before criticizing? >> >> I did. It's illegal; these books are pirated. Please don't patronize >> this site. > > I wasn't suggesting that they were legal, I was suggesting that he > should have looked before he started correcting people to make sure > that the correction was in order. It was partly my fault as I was not aware that "Predator" was part of the title. I have not read the books, nor did I download them and did not visit Fantastic Fiction till after his post. Even though it was my mistake, LWE was alerted to his ebooks being offered for free when he hadn't given permission. So all is well.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-19 17:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <7p51gd96d7go5ug8hhmdogqajkbrb0bhef@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492192 |
On Sat, 19 May 2018 13:42:03 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >On 19/05/18 13:27, J. Clarke wrote: >> On Fri, 18 May 2018 03:35:01 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans >> <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:32:46 -0400, J. Clarke >>> <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David >>>> Goldfarb) wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >>>>>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >>>>>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. >>>>>> >>>>>> The two most >>>>>> recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >>>>>> whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours >>>>> >>>>> "Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"? >>>>> I'm afraid I don't see it. >>>> >>>> The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete >>>> Jungle". >>>> >>>> I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually >>>> check the site in question before criticizing? >>> >>> I did. It's illegal; these books are pirated. Please don't patronize >>> this site. >> >> I wasn't suggesting that they were legal, I was suggesting that he >> should have looked before he started correcting people to make sure >> that the correction was in order. > >It was partly my fault as I was not aware that "Predator" was part of >the title. I have not read the books, nor did I download them and did >not visit Fantastic Fiction till after his post. Even though it was my >mistake, LWE was alerted to his ebooks being offered for free when he >hadn't given permission. So all is well. But they aren't mine, really; I wrote them as work-for-hire. They're 20th Century Fox' books. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar. See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | goldfarb@kithrup.com (David Goldfarb) |
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| Date | 2018-05-19 06:08 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <p8yp2n.IL0@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #492150 |
In article <t6isfd9bg4nti1fvcuj3cqabbdhi6pgucr@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:06:39 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David
>Goldfarb) wrote:
>
>>In article <pdlb1o$8bt$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized
>>>> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't
>>>> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know.
>>>
>>>The two most
>>>recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author
>>>whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours
>>
>>"Charles Stross" is remarkably similar to "Lawrence Evans"?
>>I'm afraid I don't see it.
>
>The books on the site are "Predator Cold War" and "Predator Concrete
>Jungle".
>
>I hate to be snarky but is it too much to ask that someone actually
>check the site in question before criticizing?
No, I didn't bother to check out what was obviously a pirate site
and quite possibly infested with malware. I'll cop to confusing
"Cold War" with "A Colder War", and "Concrete Jungle" with
"The Concrete Jungle".
--
David Goldfarb |
goldfarbdj@gmail.com | "It's flabby and delicious."
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu |
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 03:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <9h0tfdhok6dnf069rlsakthtmq7h4rp97j@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492142 |
On Fri, 18 May 2018 13:41:54 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > >> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized >> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't >> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. > >A local house builder with surname Sherlock has a registered company >name of ? >Yes, you guessed it already but that is not why I am posting. I just >received a Goodreads email requesting friendship and offering me a free >ebook from a free ebook site, http://eb******ter.ch/ . The two most >recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author >whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours but as they >were both published on 1 January 101, that makes them of similar age to >the Bible so they must have been written by an ancestor of yours and >well out of copyright by now. Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a personal name. And my actual surname isn't Watt-Evans; that's a pen name. As is Nathan Archer, the name I wrote those books under. The publication dates are incorrect. I don't remember the correct ones, but they were in the 1990s.. This is a pirate site. Please do not patronize it. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar. See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 04:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <93715161-2381-497e-a6d7-93ee77acdda5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492157 |
On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 13:41:54 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > > >On 18/05/18 09:59, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > > > >> The Doyle estate tried to claim copyright by saying every authorized > >> story extended the copyright. The courts disagreed. Why they didn't > >> trademark the distinctive name "Sherlock Holmes," I don't know. > > > >A local house builder with surname Sherlock has a registered company > >name of ? > >Yes, you guessed it already but that is not why I am posting. I just > >received a Goodreads email requesting friendship and offering me a free > >ebook from a free ebook site, http://eb******ter.ch/ . The two most > >recent books added were "Cold WAr" and Concrete Jungle by an author > >whose christian and surnames are remarkably similar to yours but as they > >were both published on 1 January 101, that makes them of similar age to > >the Bible so they must have been written by an ancestor of yours and > >well out of copyright by now. > > Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a > personal name. I like to call my "first name" my forename. And my actual surname isn't Watt-Evans; that's a pen > name. As is Nathan Archer, the name I wrote those books under. > > The publication dates are incorrect. I don't remember the correct > ones, but they were in the 1990s.. > > This is a pirate site. Please do not patronize it. Pirate sites tend to be sewers of malware, so avoid them for that reason alone, if you can't respect the authors' rights. Kevin R
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| From | Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 15:58 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <pdneqk$q8q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #492159 |
On 5/18/2018 6:19 AM, Kevrob wrote: ... > Pirate sites tend to be sewers of malware, so avoid them > for that reason alone, if you can't respect the authors' rights. > > Kevin R I have had people buy my software on a pirate website for $50 and contact me for technical support. Bold, very bold. Lynn
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 14:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <09125fad-4297-4c12-8fca-01c7af31e9ba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492182 |
On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:59:03 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 5/18/2018 6:19 AM, Kevrob wrote: > ... > > Pirate sites tend to be sewers of malware, so avoid them > > for that reason alone, if you can't respect the authors' rights. > > > > Kevin R > > I have had people buy my software on a pirate website for $50 and > contact me for technical support. Bold, very bold. > If Leo Rosten had ever been a tech writer, that would have been an example of "chutzpah." Kevin R
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| From | Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 18:25 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <52668959-46a3-4c1c-890f-07ae3beeaa8e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492182 |
On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 6:59:03 AM UTC+10, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 5/18/2018 6:19 AM, Kevrob wrote: > ... > > Pirate sites tend to be sewers of malware, so avoid them > > for that reason alone, if you can't respect the authors' rights. > > > > Kevin R > > I have had people buy my software on a pirate website for $50 and > contact me for technical support. Bold, very bold. A friend of mine once worked at a computer shop. Someone phoned him up once for a conversation that went something like: Customer: Do you run courses on how to use Easyscript? I'm having a lot of trouble with it. Friend: When we sell it, we usually include an instruction manual. Customer: <click> (Easyscript was a word processor for the Commodore 64). -Moriarty
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-05-19 18:51 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <fmbv6bF4b4hU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492159 |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a >> personal name. > >I like to call my "first name" my forename. Family name, given name, middle name. If you treat your middle name as your "given name", this structure fails. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-19 20:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <1985f5e1-3d08-4867-9497-e6717cae837e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492226 |
On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote: > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > > >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > > >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a > >> personal name. > > > >I like to call my "first name" my forename. > > Family name, given name, Unless you legally change thar "given name," then you need something else to call it. >.... middle name. If you treat your middle name > as your "given name", this structure fails. Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not be family name, if you've changed it. Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name" isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is "Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that. Kevin R * Many don't have these.
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 03:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <fmc7qkF5s8bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492230 |
In article <1985f5e1-3d08-4867-9497-e6717cae837e@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote: >> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >> >> >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> >> >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a >> >> personal name. >> > >> >I like to call my "first name" my forename. >> >> Family name, given name, > >Unless you legally change thar "given name," then >you need something else to call it. > >>.... middle name. If you treat your middle name >> as your "given name", this structure fails. > >Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not >be family name, if you've changed it. > >Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't >apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as >Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name" >isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal >name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is >"Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that. > >Kevin R > >* Many don't have these. I worked with a guy from India once who had a last name that was impossible for most Americans(*) to pronounce and a very simple first name. He lamented that he had screwed up on his passport. In his region they had a bunch of names and the mapping to western passports was somewhat arbitrary. He wished he had just listed the name that ended up as his "first" name as his last name and then just gone by that. (*) He's one now, so at least one American family can pronounce it! -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 04:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180519a@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492231 |
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
> In article <1985f5e1-3d08-4867-9497-e6717cae837e@googlegroups.com>,
> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
>>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a
>>> >> personal name.
>>> >
>>> >I like to call my "first name" my forename.
>>>
>>> Family name, given name,
>>
>>Unless you legally change thar "given name," then
>>you need something else to call it.
>>
>>>.... middle name. If you treat your middle name
>>> as your "given name", this structure fails.
>>
>>Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not
>>be family name, if you've changed it.
>>
>>Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't
>>apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as
>>Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name"
>>isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal
>>name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is
>>"Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that.
>>
>>* Many don't have these.
>
> I worked with a guy from India once who had a last name that was impossible
> for most Americans(*) to pronounce and a very simple first name. He lamented
> that he had screwed up on his passport. In his region they had a bunch
> of names and the mapping to western passports was somewhat arbitrary. He
> wished he had just listed the name that ended up as his "first" name as
> his last name and then just gone by that.
>
>
> (*) He's one now, so at least one American family can pronounce it!
"The Naming Of Cats" (T S Eliot)
The Naming of Cats is a difficult matter,
It isn't just one of your holiday games;
You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
When I tell you, a cat must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.
First of all, there's the name that the family use daily,
Such as Peter, Augustus, Alonzo or James,
Such as Victor or Jonathan, George or Bill Bailey—
All of them sensible everyday names.
There are fancier names if you think they sound sweeter,
Some for the gentlemen, some for the dames:
Such as Plato, Admetus, Electra, Demeter—
But all of them sensible everyday names.
But I tell you, a cat needs a name that's particular,
A name that's peculiar, and more dignified,
Else how can he keep up his tail perpendicular,
Or spread out his whiskers, or cherish his pride?
Of names of this kind, I can give you a quorum,
Such as Munkustrap, Quaxo, or Coricopat,
Such as Bombalurina, or else Jellylorum-
Names that never belong to more than one cat.
But above and beyond there's still one name left over,
And that is the name that you never will guess;
The name that no human research can discover—
But THE CAT HIMSELF KNOWS, and will never confess.
When you notice a cat in profound meditation,
The reason, I tell you, is always the same:
His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation
Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name:
His ineffable effable
Effanineffable
Deep and inscrutable singular Name.
✍
Thank you,
--
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 04:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <fmcb4kF6jthU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492233 |
In article <20180519a@crcomp.net>, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote: >Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote: >> In article <1985f5e1-3d08-4867-9497-e6717cae837e@googlegroups.com>, >> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote: >>>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> >>>> >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a >>>> >> personal name. >>>> > >>>> >I like to call my "first name" my forename. >>>> >>>> Family name, given name, >>> >>>Unless you legally change thar "given name," then >>>you need something else to call it. >>> >>>>.... middle name. If you treat your middle name >>>> as your "given name", this structure fails. >>> >>>Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not >>>be family name, if you've changed it. >>> >>>Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't >>>apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as >>>Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name" >>>isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal >>>name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is >>>"Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that. >>> >>>* Many don't have these. >> >> I worked with a guy from India once who had a last name that was impossible >> for most Americans(*) to pronounce and a very simple first name. He lamented >> that he had screwed up on his passport. In his region they had a bunch >> of names and the mapping to western passports was somewhat arbitrary. He >> wished he had just listed the name that ended up as his "first" name as >> his last name and then just gone by that. >> >> >> (*) He's one now, so at least one American family can pronounce it! > > "The Naming Of Cats" (T S Eliot) > > The Naming of Cats is a difficult matter, > It isn't just one of your holiday games; > You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter > When I tell you, a cat must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES. > First of all, there's the name that the family use daily, > Such as Peter, Augustus, Alonzo or James, > Such as Victor or Jonathan, George or Bill Bailey— > All of them sensible everyday names. > There are fancier names if you think they sound sweeter, > Some for the gentlemen, some for the dames: > Such as Plato, Admetus, Electra, Demeter— > But all of them sensible everyday names. > But I tell you, a cat needs a name that's particular, > A name that's peculiar, and more dignified, > Else how can he keep up his tail perpendicular, > Or spread out his whiskers, or cherish his pride? > Of names of this kind, I can give you a quorum, > Such as Munkustrap, Quaxo, or Coricopat, > Such as Bombalurina, or else Jellylorum- > Names that never belong to more than one cat. > But above and beyond there's still one name left over, > And that is the name that you never will guess; > The name that no human research can discover— > But THE CAT HIMSELF KNOWS, and will never confess. > When you notice a cat in profound meditation, > The reason, I tell you, is always the same: > His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation > Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name: > His ineffable effable > Effanineffable > Deep and inscrutable singular Name. > >✍ > >Thank you, > >-- >Don > Haddock's Eyes -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 00:46 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <c8v1gdhi9lf0s1efd30vl7luou7deujt8d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #492231 |
On 20 May 2018 03:19:48 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote: >In article <1985f5e1-3d08-4867-9497-e6717cae837e@googlegroups.com>, >Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote: >>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> >>> >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a >>> >> personal name. >>> > >>> >I like to call my "first name" my forename. >>> >>> Family name, given name, >> >>Unless you legally change thar "given name," then >>you need something else to call it. >> >>>.... middle name. If you treat your middle name >>> as your "given name", this structure fails. >> >>Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not >>be family name, if you've changed it. >> >>Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't >>apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as >>Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name" >>isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal >>name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is >>"Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that. >> >>Kevin R >> >>* Many don't have these. > >I worked with a guy from India once who had a last name that was impossible >for most Americans(*) to pronounce and a very simple first name. He lamented >that he had screwed up on his passport. In his region they had a bunch >of names and the mapping to western passports was somewhat arbitrary. He >wished he had just listed the name that ended up as his "first" name as >his last name and then just gone by that. > > >(*) He's one now, so at least one American family can pronounce it! And some just give up and adopt a Western name. One of my co-workers is "Ed". I don't know how he gets that out of his Chinese name. And several of my co-workers from India just go by the first syllable of whatever they use.
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