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| Started by | The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-04-13 21:44 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-05-05 18:03 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 290 — 42 participants |
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Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:44 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 23:30 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-14 03:44 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 10:16 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 21:40 +0300
Re: Undeservedly famous "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 19:28 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-04-15 15:19 +1200
Re: Undeservedly famous "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 09:10 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-15 20:11 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 00:37 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 00:38 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 08:43 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-16 13:53 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 20:32 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-16 22:21 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 01:39 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 17:26 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 23:35 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 18:44 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 23:03 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 00:35 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-04-15 16:21 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2018-04-15 23:39 +0000
Undeservedly famous Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 06:16 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 11:28 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 22:34 -0500
Re: Undeservedly famous Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 07:45 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-17 18:59 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-04-14 16:37 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-14 16:57 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-14 14:15 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-14 21:32 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-14 19:37 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 02:42 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-14 19:25 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 02:45 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-15 01:01 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-15 01:46 -0500
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 14:47 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 00:40 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 14:49 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 16:31 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-15 19:17 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 05:40 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 14:56 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 13:07 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-04-16 21:54 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 15:09 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 22:23 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 16:28 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Steve Dodds <sdodds@nova-optical.com> - 2018-04-14 13:26 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-14 21:36 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-14 19:36 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 02:46 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 22:38 -0500
Re: Undeservedly famous ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-15 03:53 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 05:12 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-16 00:55 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-16 15:46 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 05:45 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 13:01 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 23:02 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 05:13 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 08:56 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 05:09 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 05:43 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-04-15 16:45 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 00:42 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 05:41 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 08:46 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) - 2018-04-16 13:05 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 13:19 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-04-16 19:31 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 20:29 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-14 19:30 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 22:49 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-14 23:17 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-15 01:49 -0500
Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 08:13 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 08:47 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-15 17:50 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 14:30 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 20:20 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 15:04 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-15 14:16 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 17:19 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 22:20 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 16:51 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 23:18 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 19:07 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-15 19:25 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 21:12 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2018-04-15 22:02 -0300
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-15 22:15 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-16 17:07 +0300
Re: Undeservedly famous news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2018-04-16 15:25 +0100
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 14:39 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-16 09:04 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-16 10:29 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 11:32 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 21:54 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-16 17:50 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 20:33 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 14:19 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-16 12:35 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-16 09:02 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-16 20:56 +0300
Re: Undeservedly famous Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-16 13:45 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 21:56 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 19:16 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 05:33 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 21:00 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 05:36 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-16 01:03 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-17 22:59 -0500
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-18 13:37 +0000
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Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-18 19:45 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-18 21:15 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:11 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 14:34 -0700
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Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 08:41 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:03 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:40 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 08:40 -0700
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Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-21 15:38 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-18 21:15 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-21 01:15 -0500
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Re: Undeservedly famous J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 21:28 -0400
Re: Undeservedly famous Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 01:06 -0400
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Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-19 03:40 +0000
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Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 10:23 -0700
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Re: Undeservedly famous Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 13:04 -0700
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-19 21:32 -0600
Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-15 22:35 +0000
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Re: Undeservedly famous djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-16 01:10 +0000
Re: Undeservedly famous Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-15 19:37 -0600
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 10:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #490829 |
On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by > my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott > MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, As a Roman citizen? -- Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation instinct are running screaming.
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 17:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fk19erFfrjrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #490834 |
In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, > >As a Roman citizen? > Sounds like she would have been north of Hadiran's Wall.. -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7JuoG.1M23@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #490834 |
In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, > >As a Roman citizen? Blast and damn. No, American, 1900. Bad fingers, no biscuit. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 12:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pbg3oh$aj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #490839 |
On 4/21/2018 12:12 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, > Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >> On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>> >>> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >>> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >>> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, >> >> As a Roman citizen? > > Blast and damn. > > No, American, 1900. Bad fingers, no biscuit. > So you're not a relative of Lazarus Long then. :D (Just to wildly veer this back in the general direction of SF.) -- Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation instinct are running screaming.
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| From | Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 23:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5adba998$0$642$e4fe514c@textnews.kpn.nl> |
| In reply to | #490840 |
On 21-4-2018 21:34, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 4/21/2018 12:12 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, >> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>> On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>> >>>> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >>>> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >>>> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, >>> >>> As a Roman citizen? >> >> Blast and damn. >> >> No, American, 1900. Bad fingers, no biscuit. >> > So you're not a relative of Lazarus Long then. :D (Just to wildly veer > this back in the general direction of SF.) > Wasn't L. the ancestor of about anybody?
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 21:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7K0Iu.1yBt@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #490845 |
In article <5adba998$0$642$e4fe514c@textnews.kpn.nl>, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote: >On 21-4-2018 21:34, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 4/21/2018 12:12 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>> In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, >>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>>> On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >>>>> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >>>>> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, >>>> >>>> As a Roman citizen? >>> >>> Blast and damn. >>> >>> No, American, 1900. Bad fingers, no biscuit. >>> >> So you're not a relative of Lazarus Long then. :D (Just to wildly veer >> this back in the general direction of SF.) >> >Wasn't L. the ancestor of about anybody? You're thinking of Charlemagne. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 15:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pbgdde$g89$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #490846 |
On 4/21/2018 2:18 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <5adba998$0$642$e4fe514c@textnews.kpn.nl>, > Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote: >> On 21-4-2018 21:34, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> On 4/21/2018 12:12 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>> In article <pbfqt8$38f$1@dont-email.me>, >>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>> On 4/21/2018 8:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Trivia: My first pair of glasses were given to be at age eight by >>>>>> my aunt the ophthalmologist. Her name was Dorothy Elliott >>>>>> MacDonald, and since she was born in 190, >>>>> >>>>> As a Roman citizen? >>>> >>>> Blast and damn. >>>> >>>> No, American, 1900. Bad fingers, no biscuit. >>>> >>> So you're not a relative of Lazarus Long then. :D (Just to wildly veer >>> this back in the general direction of SF.) >>> >> Wasn't L. the ancestor of about anybody? > > You're thinking of Charlemagne. > And Ghengis Khan. -- Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation instinct are running screaming.
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| From | Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-19 16:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pbb06e$5fn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #490403 |
On 4/15/2018 8:05 PM, Greg Goss wrote: > djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote: > >> In article <p78zE2.syw@kithrup.com>, >> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> >> Ooops, forgot the footnote. >> >>> See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the >>> first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I >>> can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. >>> I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind >>> -- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC >>> screen. :) >> >> ______ >> *I get a cataract taken out in August. My life is so *full* of >> doctors. > > I got my cataracts removed in 2011. The replacement lenses are set > for distance view - driving. So I LOST the ability to read stuff from > 1.5 inches out. I used to be able to darn near read microfilm. I > made quick reverence pages of stuff I needed at four point at my job > in the nineties. > > Now, even with reading glasses, I have trouble with anything below 8 > point. You need a magnifying glass. Lynn
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| From | Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-20 22:02 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <n83lddd672aqfkl2ofoqkibsn2v7u8sea6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #490721 |
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:03:04 -0500, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: > > Now, even with reading glasses, I have trouble with anything below 8 > > point. > > You need a magnifying glass. "Reading glasses" *are* a magnifying glass. I use 3.5 glasses from the dollar store to see individual threads in my needlework. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-15 20:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <v0s7dddhu2447lpr98v3sdm7jksb2rov80@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #490388 |
On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:20:26 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote: >In article <7cg7dd9aum0h270tbg697ri9g5unet8os0@4ax.com>, >J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie >><rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sunday, 15 April 2018 22:04:25 UTC+1, David Johnston wrote: >>>> On 2018-04-15 2:20 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>> > In article <fjhhmmFtm4aU2@mid.individual.net>, >>>> > Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote: >>>> >> In article <pavole$1n1b$3@gioia.aioe.org>, >>>> >> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>> On 2018-04-15 6:13 AM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:49:37 -0500, David DeLaney >>>> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2018-04-15, David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On 2018-04-14 8:49 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> And it seems we are heading in that direction, with bigger and bigger >>>> >>>>>>> televisions with more and more channels of crappier and crappier >>>> >>>>>>> entertainment, and loss of interest in reading. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> *bullshit*. There is no loss of interest in reading. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Agreed; people just are doing it on their phones now, rather >>than in paper >>>> >>>>> books, newspapers, and magazines. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Dave, the which have declining circulation, yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Do you have statistics? And do you include newspapers and magazines? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/09/01/book-reading-2016/ >>>> >> >>>> >> I find it curious that so many (in their survey) still prefer >>print. Despite >>>> >> being a tech troglodyte in many respects, I never looked back once >>I got my >>>> >> kindle. The only stuff I buy in paper now is comic books/comic strip >>>> >> collections and reference books. >>>> > >>>> > I don't trust Kindle books not to evaporate suddenly because >>>> > Amazon felt like it. >>>> >>>> ...don't synch your Kindle. That's all it takes. Even if Amazon had >>>> done that, to one of my books it wouldn't make any different at all >>>> because I don't synch my Kindle. >>> >>>Until your Kindle breaks. Then you can buy another Kindle and >>> get back books that Amazon says you can get back, I guess. >> >>I synch my phone, my desktop, and my two tablets. Can usually stop >>reading on one and pick up where I left off on another. Can even do >>that going from audiobook to written book in some cases. If they go >>away, then they do--if it's something I really really want to revisit >>then I can always look for a paper copy. > >See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the >first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I >can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. >I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind >-- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC >screen. :) Books disappearing has not actually been an issue for me--most of the ones I read I don't find to be worth more than one reread if that anyway--my house is _full_ of books that I have realized that I am probably not going to read again. I'm more concerned about losing books to leaky pipes and mice than to Amazon deciding to take them away. With regard to vision, in Kindle on an Android device lay two fingers on the screen and spread them and the text gets bigger. Do the same and squeeze them together and it gets smaller (for some reason this does not work so well with Kindle on platforms other than Android, including Amazon's own). My desktop screen is 40 inches diagonally--text can get _real_ big there (note--this is not horribly expensive anymore--I expect to see good quality 40 inch 4K TVs drop below 300 bucks some time this year) . The tablets are 9 inch and 12.5 inch--about the size of a trade paperback page and a piece of notebook paper respectively, and can be used as a substitute for a notebook (_that_ synchs too). They aren't any harder to bring close to my eye than a book is. Funny thing is, I thought the phone would be too small but it's not. At least not yet. Oh, if you are having trouble seeing, the phone has another trick--there's a free app (or something like 5 bucks if you want to eliminate about a quarter inch of advertising at the edge) that turns it into a really nice magnifying glass. That also works on android tablets--I'm sure there are similar ones for Windows and IOS tablets.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-04-15 19:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <fjibjlF4rioU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #490402 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >Funny thing is, I thought the phone would be too small but it's not. >At least not yet. At one point I had a non-smart phone that had a lot of features. I tried converting a book to TXT and reading it in the memo reader. Even for someone as stubborn as I am, the 1.5 inch screen was a killer. I've been happily e-reading on five or six phones since then. My first phone was a Symbian Nokia, and the eReader I was using had trouble with accented names (and there are a LOT of those in the 1632 series). When I switched to Android, I initially used BlueFire and then Moon Reader Pro. I've been happy with Moon Reader ever since. I can't remember why I switched out of BlueFire. I hate the Kindle or Kobo apps on either the phone or the laptop. I don't read much on the laptop, but if I do, I use the reader bundled with Calibre, adjusted for a cream background and a few other tweaks. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2018-04-16 01:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7971G.1884@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #490402 |
In article <v0s7dddhu2447lpr98v3sdm7jksb2rov80@4ax.com>, J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:20:26 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J >Heydt) wrote: > >>In article <7cg7dd9aum0h270tbg697ri9g5unet8os0@4ax.com>, >>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie >>><rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sunday, 15 April 2018 22:04:25 UTC+1, David Johnston wrote: >>>>> On 2018-04-15 2:20 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>> > In article <fjhhmmFtm4aU2@mid.individual.net>, >>>>> > Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote: >>>>> >> In article <pavole$1n1b$3@gioia.aioe.org>, >>>>> >> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>> On 2018-04-15 6:13 AM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> >>>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:49:37 -0500, David DeLaney >>>>> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2018-04-15, David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-04-14 8:49 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> And it seems we are heading in that direction, with bigger >and bigger >>>>> >>>>>>> televisions with more and more channels of crappier and crappier >>>>> >>>>>>> entertainment, and loss of interest in reading. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *bullshit*. There is no loss of interest in reading. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Agreed; people just are doing it on their phones now, rather >>>than in paper >>>>> >>>>> books, newspapers, and magazines. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave, the which have declining circulation, yes >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Do you have statistics? And do you include newspapers and magazines? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/09/01/book-reading-2016/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I find it curious that so many (in their survey) still prefer >>>print. Despite >>>>> >> being a tech troglodyte in many respects, I never looked back once >>>I got my >>>>> >> kindle. The only stuff I buy in paper now is comic books/comic strip >>>>> >> collections and reference books. >>>>> > >>>>> > I don't trust Kindle books not to evaporate suddenly because >>>>> > Amazon felt like it. >>>>> >>>>> ...don't synch your Kindle. That's all it takes. Even if Amazon had >>>>> done that, to one of my books it wouldn't make any different at all >>>>> because I don't synch my Kindle. >>>> >>>>Until your Kindle breaks. Then you can buy another Kindle and >>>> get back books that Amazon says you can get back, I guess. >>> >>>I synch my phone, my desktop, and my two tablets. Can usually stop >>>reading on one and pick up where I left off on another. Can even do >>>that going from audiobook to written book in some cases. If they go >>>away, then they do--if it's something I really really want to revisit >>>then I can always look for a paper copy. >> >>See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the >>first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I >>can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. >>I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind >>-- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC >>screen. :) > >Books disappearing has not actually been an issue for me--most of the >ones I read I don't find to be worth more than one reread if that >anyway--my house is _full_ of books that I have realized that I am >probably not going to read again. I'm more concerned about losing >books to leaky pipes and mice than to Amazon deciding to take them >away. > >With regard to vision, in Kindle on an Android device lay two fingers >on the screen and spread them and the text gets bigger. Do the same >and squeeze them together and it gets smaller (for some reason this >does not work so well with Kindle on platforms other than Android, >including Amazon's own). > >My desktop screen is 40 inches diagonally--text can get _real_ big >there (note--this is not horribly expensive anymore--I expect to see >good quality 40 inch 4K TVs drop below 300 bucks some time this year) >. >The tablets are 9 inch and 12.5 inch--about the size of a trade >paperback page and a piece of notebook paper respectively, and can be >used as a substitute for a notebook (_that_ synchs too). They aren't >any harder to bring close to my eye than a book is. > >Funny thing is, I thought the phone would be too small but it's not. >At least not yet. > >Oh, if you are having trouble seeing, the phone has another >trick--there's a free app (or something like 5 bucks if you want to >eliminate about a quarter inch of advertising at the edge) that turns >it into a really nice magnifying glass. That also works on android >tablets--I'm sure there are similar ones for Windows and IOS tablets. Yes, apps appear to be cheap or free. But I don't have a handheld to start with, and I'm damned if I'll spend how many hundreds of dollars? on one. I just removed a third of my savings account so we could pay the IRS. (Twice what we paid them last year; our income hasn't changed.) -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-17 05:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pb40n9$avu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #490413 |
Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > Yes, apps appear to be cheap or free. But I don't have a > handheld to start with, and I'm damned if I'll spend how many > hundreds of dollars? on one. I just removed a third of my > savings account so we could pay the IRS. (Twice what we paid > them last year; our income hasn't changed.) <http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2015/05/05/best-inexpensive-ereaders-for-under-70/> So less than $100. Brian
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-17 23:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <zNOdnZmhfJgDWUvHnZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #490519 |
On 2018-04-17, Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> Yes, apps appear to be cheap or free. But I don't have a >> handheld to start with, and I'm damned if I'll spend how many >> hundreds of dollars? on one. I just removed a third of my >> savings account so we could pay the IRS. (Twice what we paid >> them last year; our income hasn't changed.) > ><http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2015/05/05/best-inexpensive-ereaders- for-under-70/> > > So less than $100. The white Kobo my brother gave me some years back finally did not survive a fall, so I went looking for another; eBay found me a black one with like 16 times the storage (which was already Quite A Lot for .txt, .epub, and .pdf files) for $30 plus shipping. I am halfway through REstrip-mining Gutenberg, and _this_ time am making a backup files folder on my PC holding everything I'm putting on the Kobo. Dave -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-04-19 21:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <fjt5hoFi2uaU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #490519 |
"Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote: >Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > >> Yes, apps appear to be cheap or free. But I don't have a >> handheld to start with, and I'm damned if I'll spend how many >> hundreds of dollars? on one. I just removed a third of my >> savings account so we could pay the IRS. (Twice what we paid >> them last year; our income hasn't changed.) > ><http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2015/05/05/best-inexpensive-ereaders-for-under-70/> > >So less than $100. When my Sony died, I didn't discover that till the day I needed it. So I went to the locak Chapters, and picked up a Kobo Mini. It was marked $79 on the shelf, but it was on 50% clearance when i got to the checkout. Evenually it died, and I picked up another identical (OK, not identical. First one was black plastic, next one was white) from Kijiji for $20. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-17 08:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a86c53fb-3213-4850-bcba-9c50b7f1994f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #490388 |
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 6:45:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <7cg7dd9aum0h270tbg697ri9g5unet8os0@4ax.com>, > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie > ><rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > > >>On Sunday, 15 April 2018 22:04:25 UTC+1, David Johnston wrote: > >>> On 2018-04-15 2:20 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >>> > In article <fjhhmmFtm4aU2@mid.individual.net>, > >>> > Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote: > >>> >> In article <pavole$1n1b$3@gioia.aioe.org>, > >>> >> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> >>> On 2018-04-15 6:13 AM, J. Clarke wrote: > >>> >>>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:49:37 -0500, David DeLaney > >>> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> On 2018-04-15, David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> >>>>>> On 2018-04-14 8:49 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> And it seems we are heading in that direction, with bigger and bigger > >>> >>>>>>> televisions with more and more channels of crappier and crappier > >>> >>>>>>> entertainment, and loss of interest in reading. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> *bullshit*. There is no loss of interest in reading. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Agreed; people just are doing it on their phones now, rather > >than in paper > >>> >>>>> books, newspapers, and magazines. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Dave, the which have declining circulation, yes > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Do you have statistics? And do you include newspapers and magazines? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/09/01/book-reading-2016/ > >>> >> > >>> >> I find it curious that so many (in their survey) still prefer > >print. Despite > >>> >> being a tech troglodyte in many respects, I never looked back once > >I got my > >>> >> kindle. The only stuff I buy in paper now is comic books/comic strip > >>> >> collections and reference books. > >>> > > >>> > I don't trust Kindle books not to evaporate suddenly because > >>> > Amazon felt like it. > >>> > >>> ...don't synch your Kindle. That's all it takes. Even if Amazon had > >>> done that, to one of my books it wouldn't make any different at all > >>> because I don't synch my Kindle. > >> > >>Until your Kindle breaks. Then you can buy another Kindle and > >> get back books that Amazon says you can get back, I guess. > > > >I synch my phone, my desktop, and my two tablets. Can usually stop > >reading on one and pick up where I left off on another. Can even do > >that going from audiobook to written book in some cases. If they go > >away, then they do--if it's something I really really want to revisit > >then I can always look for a paper copy. > > See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the > first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I > can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. > I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind > -- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC > screen. :) It would work just fine with a Kindle Paperwhite. It uses e-paper, a different screen technology from the other Kindles and most handhelds in general. E-paper is great for pure text, and sucks for everything else. Any sensible discussion of ease or difficulty of reading has to distinguish which display technology we are talking about. Richard R. Hershberger
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-04-19 21:38 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <fjt5mlFi2uaU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #490526 |
Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> wrote: >It would work just fine with a Kindle Paperwhite. It uses e-paper, a >different screen technology from the other Kindles and most handhelds >in general. E-paper is great for pure text, and sucks for everything >else. Any sensible discussion of ease or difficulty of reading has to >distinguish which display technology we are talking about. I think of e-paper as the default medium for Kobo or Kindle. Perhaps this has changed in recent years, but lit screens were originally rare on the ereaders. I keep a Kobo Mini around in case I find a need to read in sunlight, but otherwise I read everything on my phone. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-17 22:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <zNOdnZ-hfJgTXEvHnZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #490388 |
On 2018-04-15, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: > See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the > first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I > can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. > I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind > -- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC screen. :) E-books let you _magnify_ the page. (Downside: less of the page shows through the screen, of course.) So do most browsers; Firefox will increase / decrease font size if you hit Control+ / Control- , for example. Dave, hope this helps -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-18 22:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pe1gdd5sgqbtmd3po7ualfj87rukssmqjt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #490580 |
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:54:54 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >On 2018-04-15, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> See, this is (one of the) reason(s) I buy paper copies in the >> first place. Another is that my vision is getting fuzzy* and I >> can hold the page a couple inches from my good eye and read it. >> I don't know how well that would work with a handheld of any kind >> -- it takes some squirming to get my eye close enough to the PC screen. :) > >E-books let you _magnify_ the page. (Downside: less of the page shows through >the screen, of course.) > >So do most browsers; Firefox will increase / decrease font size if you hit >Control+ / Control- , for example. > >Dave, hope this helps And Windows will do the whole screen for you with <Windows>+ or if you have a Microsoft non-Bluetooth mouse the button on the side.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-21 01:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <P_Cdnczy6JxUSEfHnZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #490580 |
On 2018-04-18, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > So do most browsers; Firefox will increase / decrease font size if you hit > Control+ / Control- , for example. aaaaand I actually had to use the latter at work tonight, to save another person whose punch-in timescreen had somehow gotten minified four or five times so that everything was very teeny up against the right edge of the screen. (She did not realize that that's what had happened, and it took me a moment to figure out too...) Dave -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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