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| Started by | alal65536@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2016-09-20 04:13 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-12-05 08:19 -0800 |
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What if life were like fiction? alal65536@gmail.com - 2016-09-20 04:13 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-20 12:29 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-20 07:41 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-20 19:24 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-20 19:55 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-20 13:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-21 15:48 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-21 17:17 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-24 10:28 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? alal65536@gmail.com - 2016-09-20 09:02 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-20 10:39 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-20 19:25 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-21 11:25 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-24 13:41 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-24 20:33 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-25 01:28 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 19:54 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-09-25 06:25 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-25 03:40 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-09-25 23:10 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-26 00:01 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-25 18:25 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-26 14:16 +0300
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-26 10:06 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-26 15:34 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:33 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-26 20:00 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-27 06:02 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-27 13:19 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-26 12:25 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 18:08 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-26 19:13 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:50 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-27 14:07 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-27 08:21 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-27 14:29 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-27 07:48 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-27 10:43 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-27 07:47 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-27 12:45 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 14:21 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 18:02 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-09-26 12:48 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-26 16:10 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-26 04:02 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-09-27 07:31 +0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-26 19:38 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-26 18:20 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-27 00:30 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-26 23:16 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-27 12:44 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-27 10:36 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-27 14:54 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-27 17:31 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-28 00:51 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-28 03:33 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-28 12:00 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-09-28 14:15 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-29 01:03 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-09-29 16:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-29 16:31 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-29 19:46 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 00:17 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-29 23:01 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 04:19 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 11:16 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 16:14 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 14:04 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 23:48 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 21:44 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 05:03 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-10-02 01:17 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 23:41 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 04:35 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 05:19 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-02 02:20 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 13:42 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-02 11:50 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-10-02 20:07 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 20:44 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-02 22:56 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-02 19:20 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-02 15:44 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 23:51 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-03 11:23 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 20:52 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-02 08:56 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-10-05 18:59 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 20:05 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-30 10:48 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:15 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-09-30 12:12 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:35 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 03:48 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 01:46 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-30 05:53 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-09-29 22:59 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-30 06:05 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 03:51 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-30 07:13 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 12:53 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-30 16:12 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 12:37 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-01 00:14 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 05:53 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 12:49 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-30 15:20 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:19 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 12:36 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-30 10:53 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 11:12 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 12:42 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-09-30 18:00 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-30 11:02 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:29 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:26 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 16:46 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 00:03 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 23:53 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:05 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-10-02 01:57 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 13:52 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-30 14:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 14:09 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Bill Dugan <wkdugan@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 08:23 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-09-30 18:01 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? Bill Dugan <wkdugan@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 12:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:24 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-09-30 21:47 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 00:02 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-01 16:18 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:33 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-30 10:58 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Bill Dugan <wkdugan@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 12:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-01 00:19 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 01:42 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-01 06:11 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 02:30 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 06:46 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 14:50 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 19:28 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 16:14 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 15:45 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 16:16 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 18:21 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 22:21 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-10-02 01:28 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-01 19:00 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-02 01:36 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-10-05 19:06 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-05 15:55 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 13:06 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-05 16:29 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 18:55 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:51 -0300
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-08 13:49 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-08 14:55 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-08 18:41 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-09 04:31 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-09 07:16 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 10:41 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-09 09:28 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-09 20:08 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 15:24 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-09 15:34 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-09 17:10 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-10 01:15 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-10 12:42 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-10 11:14 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-10 11:27 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 11:48 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-11 00:31 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> - 2016-12-03 18:06 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-03 18:43 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> - 2016-12-03 20:37 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-03 13:28 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 22:29 +0200
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-04 22:30 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-03 12:18 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-11 00:30 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-10-09 23:06 +0100
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-10 07:08 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 13:50 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-10 08:14 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 06:01 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 02:54 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 06:31 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 19:22 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-30 14:14 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-10-05 19:04 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 00:09 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 04:04 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-30 12:56 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 09:38 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 16:01 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 19:56 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-30 21:52 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-30 23:57 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 00:52 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 00:57 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-01 12:50 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-10-11 22:48 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-12 01:03 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-01 08:49 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:12 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-01 11:45 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-01 14:56 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-01 11:26 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-01 11:44 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-01 15:49 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-01 22:22 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-02 10:01 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-02 14:25 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-02 20:46 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 15:12 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-28 12:50 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-09-28 14:06 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-28 11:56 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-09-28 09:31 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:45 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-28 11:53 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 11:57 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-09-28 17:51 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 19:02 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-09-28 19:51 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 21:52 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-09-30 09:06 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-29 17:34 +0300
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-28 11:43 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 01:52 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-26 10:02 -0400
Re: What if life were like fiction? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-27 11:24 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? Madawc Williams <madawcnow@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 09:19 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-04 17:24 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-04 10:15 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-05 10:31 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-04 18:19 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-12-04 13:42 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:20 -0600
Re: What if life were like fiction? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-05 00:36 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-04 22:43 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 12:18 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-04 22:34 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-12-04 22:14 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-12-05 09:22 +0000
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-05 00:03 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-05 10:33 -0500
Re: What if life were like fiction? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-05 11:20 -0800
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Re: What if life were like fiction? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-05 14:49 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-05 14:53 -0800
Re: What if life were like fiction? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-05 12:35 -0700
Re: What if life were like fiction? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-05 10:37 -0500
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| From | "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 18:41 -0400 |
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 14:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote in<news:4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com> in rec.arts.sf.written: [...] > I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of > accumulated damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or > ligament in his leg, finds it difficult to walk > downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs faster. The same thing happens if you have one leg in a walking cast, as I did for six weeks in junior high (and yes, kids that age are impatient on the stairs), or if you beat yourself up running a hard marathon. [...] Brian -- It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their holes to root for sandtatties. The waves whispered rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss, haggisss.
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 04:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #453410 |
In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: >> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: >> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), nance@math.ohio-state.edu >> > (Anthony Nance) wrote: >> > >> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one direction >> > > with a well-placed fire pole. >> > >> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes I >> > walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the turn-around >> > point. >> >> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed >> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going >> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole >> is hardly safe. > >I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated >damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, >finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs >faster. Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee doesn't have to bear my weight. This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will do so again when it gets around to it. Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. >He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable >weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and >I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street >level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to shield >him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. When he was >using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a clue.* But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at another person? -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 07:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e127dece-f34f-4028-8c33-f5c48ef25413@googlegroups.com> |
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On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 12:45:03 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > >On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: > >> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: > >> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), nance@math.ohio-state.edu > >> > (Anthony Nance) wrote: > >> > > >> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one direction > >> > > with a well-placed fire pole. > >> > > >> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes I > >> > walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the turn-around > >> > point. > >> > >> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed > >> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going > >> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole > >> is hardly safe. > > > >I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated > >damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, > >finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs > >faster. > > Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some > circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my > left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful > climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs > without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot > down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee > doesn't have to bear my weight. > > This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will > do so again when it gets around to it. > > Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. > > >He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable > >weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and > >I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street > >level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to shield > >him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. When he was > >using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a clue.* > > But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that > they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at > another person? > > They may not look at seem to at other people, but seem to have a version of Matt(Daredevil) Murdock's "radar sense" while weaving through sidewalk traffic. I am both frightened and amazed by Manhattanites' habit of running down subway stairs while their heads are trained on phone screens or other reading matter, earbuds plugged in their ears, bass booming from them. People everywhere wander around in "phone zone," but some New Yorkers don't let that slow them down at all. I'm enough of a New Yorker that, when I am trying to get from point A (Grand central, say) to point B (the Roosevelt Island tram) and I am behind a family of tourists walking all abreast, sometimes hand-in-hand, I can feel my blood start to boil, and insults about probable countries of origin must be stifled. Kevin R
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| From | Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 10:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69C76E90780Dmelchizedek@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #453442 |
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in news:oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com: > In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie >>wrote: >>> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: >>> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), nance@math.ohio-state.edu >>> > (Anthony Nance) wrote: >>> > >>> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one >>> > > direction with a well-placed fire pole. >>> > >>> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes I >>> > walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the turn-around >>> > point. >>> >>> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed >>> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going >>> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole >>> is hardly safe. >> >>I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated >>damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, >>finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs >>faster. > > Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some > circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my > left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful > climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs > without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot > down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee > doesn't have to bear my weight. > > This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will > do so again when it gets around to it. > > Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. > >>He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable >>weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and >>I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street >>level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to shield >>him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. When he was >>using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a clue.* > > But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that > they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at > another person? I'm a New Yorker in exile. Not making eye contact as much as out-of-towners is certainly true - you have so many people 'in your face' walking around (lowest car ownership in the country) or on the subway that its simple politeness. Not looking up - no more that the native inhabitants of any other city. How many times has Dorothy gone out of her way to cross the Golden Gate, visit Alcatraz, or Telegraph Hill, or drive down Lombard Street? Has she been to the Disney Family Museum? But as for 'looking at another person' - we sure as hell *do* do that. We read crowds very well, and anticipate how the other pedestrians are moving, where gaps will form, and slide through them. Out of towners walking in straight lines are like rocks in a stream, breaking the flow. pt
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| From | Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 09:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d82d371d-9ea9-477c-86d9-4caa496fb784@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #453464 |
On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 8:41:27 AM UTC-7, Cryptoengineer wrote: [New Yorkers] > But as for 'looking at another person' - we sure as hell *do* do > that. We read crowds very well, and anticipate how the other > pedestrians are moving, where gaps will form, and slide through > them. Out of towners walking in straight lines are like rocks > in a stream, breaking the flow. I had a friend from New England in college in Chicago who was amazed at how people used the sidewalks there; he said they seemed to be "unaware that they occupy space". I'd say Midwestern city dwellers vary significantly in this kind of awareness, which I've taken for granted for many years. In Seattle, such awareness seems to be kind of rare, but I'm biased these days because I spend most of my time around the University of Washington. See, the UW has kind of an unusual feature compared to schools I've been around in the past: its students travel in packs of wildly varying size. I've seriously thought that a dungeon master could handle random encounters in this area by rolling d20. "You see seventeen college students attempting to walk side by side down the sidewalk towards you. They're about forty feet away. There are several women in the group; several of the men appear to be inebriated. They aren't manifesting any hostile intent. What will you do?" Seattle is *not* unusual in the invincibility which many people assume they have while staring at their phones. We have just as many of these idiots as anywhere else. Joe Bernstein -- Joe Bernstein, writer and tax preparer <joe@sfbooks.com>
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 20:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oEsqML.22o7@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #453464 |
In article <XnsA69C76E90780Dmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote: >djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >news:oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com: > >> In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, >> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie >>>wrote: >>>> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: >>>> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), nance@math.ohio-state.edu >>>> > (Anthony Nance) wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one >>>> > > direction with a well-placed fire pole. >>>> > >>>> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes I >>>> > walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the turn-around >>>> > point. >>>> >>>> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed >>>> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going >>>> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole >>>> is hardly safe. >>> >>>I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated >>>damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, >>>finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs >>>faster. >> >> Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some >> circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my >> left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful >> climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs >> without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot >> down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee >> doesn't have to bear my weight. >> >> This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will >> do so again when it gets around to it. >> >> Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. >> >>>He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable >>>weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and >>>I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street >>>level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to shield >>>him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. When he was >>>using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a clue.* >> >> But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that >> they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at >> another person? > >I'm a New Yorker in exile. Not making eye contact as much as >out-of-towners is certainly true - you have so many people >'in your face' walking around (lowest car ownership in the >country) or on the subway that its simple politeness. Not >looking up - no more that the native inhabitants of any >other city. How many times has Dorothy gone out of her way to >cross the Golden Gate, \Well, you cross the GGB if you are going from San Francisco to San Rafael, or vice versa. I live in the North Bay, and the one we cross at least once a week (just got back, in fact) is the Carquinez, from Vallejo to (ultimately) Berkeley. >visit Alcatraz, Never did, not particularly interested. >or Telegraph Hill, I've been there; not recent. >? or >drive down Lombard Street? Every time we have visitors from out-of-town, we make a special trip to take them there. We also take them down Fell Street, which is a couple of blocks over from Lombard and on a hill *almost* as steep. As you head down it, it looks as if you are about to plunge down a cliff. Always gets a reaction. Perhaps a better analogy would be, How often do New Yorkers go to Boston to look at the USS Constitution? or Philadelphia, to look the the Liberty Bell? From where we live, San Francisco is two bridges and at least an hour's drive away. Or a walk, a bus ride, and BART under the bay, about the same time required. >Has she been to the Disney Family Museum? Is that in the Bay Area?? You'd think it would be in Anaheim. (My daughter and son-in-law do take me to Bats' Day at Disneyland almost every spring.) -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 15:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69CA6EB51EAEmelchizedek@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #453515 |
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in news:oEsqML.22o7@kithrup.com: > In article <XnsA69C76E90780Dmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>, > Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote: >>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >>news:oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com: >> >>> In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, >>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>>On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie >>>>wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: >>>>> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), >>>>> > nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one >>>>> > > direction with a well-placed fire pole. >>>>> > >>>>> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes >>>>> > I walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the >>>>> > turn-around point. >>>>> >>>>> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed >>>>> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going >>>>> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole >>>>> is hardly safe. >>>> >>>>I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated >>>>damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, >>>>finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs >>>>faster. >>> >>> Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some >>> circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my >>> left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful >>> climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs >>> without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot >>> down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee >>> doesn't have to bear my weight. >>> >>> This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will >>> do so again when it gets around to it. >>> >>> Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. >>> >>>>He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable >>>>weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and >>>>I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street >>>>level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to >>>>shield him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. >>>>When he was using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a >>>>clue.* >>> >>> But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that >>> they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at >>> another person? >> >>I'm a New Yorker in exile. Not making eye contact as much as >>out-of-towners is certainly true - you have so many people >>'in your face' walking around (lowest car ownership in the >>country) or on the subway that its simple politeness. Not >>looking up - no more that the native inhabitants of any >>other city. How many times has Dorothy gone out of her way to >>cross the Golden Gate, > > \Well, you cross the GGB if you are going from San Francisco to > San Rafael, or vice versa. I live in the North Bay, and the one > we cross at least once a week (just got back, in fact) is the > Carquinez, from Vallejo to (ultimately) Berkeley. > >>visit Alcatraz, > > Never did, not particularly interested. > >>or Telegraph Hill, > > I've been there; not recent. > >>? or >>drive down Lombard Street? > > Every time we have visitors from out-of-town, we make a special > trip to take them there. > > We also take them down Fell Street, which is a couple of blocks > over from Lombard and on a hill *almost* as steep. As you head > down it, it looks as if you are about to plunge down a cliff. > Always gets a reaction. > > Perhaps a better analogy would be, How often do New Yorkers go to > Boston to look at the USS Constitution? or Philadelphia, to look > the the Liberty Bell? From where we live, San Francisco is two > bridges and at least an hour's drive away. Or a walk, a bus > ride, and BART under the bay, about the same time required. The question was raised 'Is it true that New Yorkers never look up at the tall buildings'. I was showing that the same is true pretty much everywhere (I should have said 'cross the GGB *on* *foot*). You do the sights only for visitors, never for yourself. >>Has she been to the Disney Family Museum? > > Is that in the Bay Area?? You'd think it would be in Anaheim. > (My daughter and son-in-law do take me to Bats' Day at Disneyland > almost every spring.) Its in the San Francisco Presidio: http://waltdisney.com/ pt
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 15:34 -0700 |
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On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 4:24:37 PM UTC-4, Cryptoengineer wrote: > djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in > news:oEsqML.22o7@kithrup.com: > > > In article <XnsA69C76E90780Dmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>, > > Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote: > >>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in > >>news:oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com: > >> > >>> In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, > >>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > >>>>On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie > >>>>wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: > >>>>> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), > >>>>> > nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one > >>>>> > > direction with a well-placed fire pole. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes > >>>>> > I walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the > >>>>> > turn-around point. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed > >>>>> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going > >>>>> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole > >>>>> is hardly safe. > >>>> > >>>>I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated > >>>>damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, > >>>>finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs > >>>>faster. > >>> > >>> Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some > >>> circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my > >>> left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful > >>> climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs > >>> without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot > >>> down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee > >>> doesn't have to bear my weight. > >>> > >>> This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will > >>> do so again when it gets around to it. > >>> > >>> Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. > >>> > >>>>He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable > >>>>weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and > >>>>I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street > >>>>level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to > >>>>shield him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. > >>>>When he was using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a > >>>>clue.* > >>> > >>> But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that > >>> they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at > >>> another person? > >>not > >>I'm a New Yorker in exile. Not making eye contact as much as > >>out-of-towners is certainly true - you have so many people > >>'in your face' walking around (lowest car ownership in the > >>country) or on the subway that its simple politeness. Not > >>looking up - no more that the native inhabitants of any > >>other city. I can remember being instructed by my parents - Dad raised in Queens, Mom from Brooklyn - How To Act In The City when I was very young. "Don't stare up at tall buildings, unless you want to be spotted as a hick* from the sticks" was one of the prime rules, along with not cutting across grass next to paved walkways, and leaving jaywalking to the professionals. > How many times has Dorothy gone out of her way to > >>cross the Golden Gate, > > > > Well, you cross the GGB if you are going from San Francisco to > > San Rafael, or vice versa. I live in the North Bay, and the one > > we cross at least once a week (just got back, in fact) is the > > Carquinez, from Vallejo to (ultimately) Berkeley. > > > >>visit Alcatraz, > > > > Never did, not particularly interested. > > > >>or Telegraph Hill, > > > > I've been there; not recent. > > > >>? or > >>drive down Lombard Street? > > > > Every time we have visitors from out-of-town, we make a special > > trip to take them there. > > > > We also take them down Fell Street, which is a couple of blocks > > over from Lombard and on a hill *almost* as steep. As you head > > down it, it looks as if you are about to plunge down a cliff. > > Always gets a reaction. > > > > Perhaps a better analogy would be, How often do New Yorkers go to > > Boston to look at the USS Constitution? or Philadelphia, to look > > the the Liberty Bell? From where we live, San Francisco is two > > bridges and at least an hour's drive away. Or a walk, a bus > > ride, and BART under the bay, about the same time required. > > The question was raised 'Is it true that New Yorkers never look up > at the tall buildings'. I was showing that the same is true pretty > much everywhere (I should have said 'cross the GGB *on* *foot*). > You do the sights only for visitors, never for yourself. > > >>Has she been to the Disney Family Museum? > > > > Is that in the Bay Area?? You'd think it would be in Anaheim. > > (My daughter and son-in-law do take me to Bats' Day at Disneyland > > almost every spring.) > > Its in the San Francisco Presidio: > http://waltdisney.com/ > > The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have never visited key landmarks. I've been to the Empire Stare Building, and visited the 86th floor Observation Deck, but never the 102nd Fl. I've never been to the Statue of Liberty, but I've flown into both La Guardia and JFK, and seen it from the air. I've seen games at both old Yankee Stadium - pre-1970s rebuild - and Big Shea, but I've yet to see anything at Madison Square Garden, Citi Field or the Barclay's Center. I've taken in a Broadway play from the second-to-last row of the balcony. I think schools in Greater New York lose their licenses if students aren't bused to the Museum of Natural History once in their youth, so I've done that. Kevin R * I grew up well east of Hicksville, which is not the source of the synonym for "yokel," though we all believed that, BITD. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hick
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 17:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ntem9e$6lv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #453534 |
On 10/9/2016 3:34 PM, Kevrob wrote: > On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 4:24:37 PM UTC-4, Cryptoengineer wrote: >> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >> news:oEsqML.22o7@kithrup.com: >> >>> In article <XnsA69C76E90780Dmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>, >>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >>>> news:oErJ8x.1M1z@kithrup.com: >>>> >>>>> In article <4baa80d8-6bba-4aef-99e7-adaeccb3e088@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, 6 October 2016 03:52:56 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:06:03 -0000 (UTC), >>>>>>>> nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You know, you'd reduce your commute time considerably in one >>>>>>>>> direction with a well-placed fire pole. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But walking down stairs is really good for the quads. Sometimes >>>>>>>> I walk a mile just so I can walk down a staircase at the >>>>>>>> turn-around point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that walking down stairs isn't an unmixed >>>>>>> blessing. But do we hear about people injured going >>>>>>> down stairs... well, I suppose we do. And the pole >>>>>>> is hardly safe. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know someone in his mid-60s, who due to the type of accumulated >>>>>> damage to one of his knees/legs or tendon or ligament in his leg, >>>>>> finds it difficult to walk downstairs. He's able to walk UP stairs >>>>>> faster. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, for some reason going downstairs is (under some >>>>> circumstances) harder than going up. One of the muscles in my >>>>> left knee is currently unhappy with me. I have to be careful >>>>> climbing into bed, and while I can (almost always) go upstairs >>>>> without hurting, downstairs is a matter of putting my left foot >>>>> down first and bringing the right to join it, so my left knee >>>>> doesn't have to bear my weight. >>>>> >>>>> This has happened before and gone away again, so I hope it will >>>>> do so again when it gets around to it. >>>>> >>>>> Oh yes, and I cling to the stair-rail all the way down. >>>>> >>>>>> He does a lot of walking, and was able to lose considerable >>>>>> weight from that, and watching his diet. On occasions when he and >>>>>> I have descended long staircases together, such as going from street >>>>>> level to a subway platform in Manhattan, I walk behind him, to >>>>>> shield him from straphangers in a hurry who would run over him. >>>>>> When he was using a cane, you'd think even New Yorkers would get a >>>>>> clue.* >>>>> >>>>> But isn't it one of the distinguishing marks of New Yorkers that >>>>> they never look up at any of the sights and never, ever, look at >>>>> another person? >>>> not >>>> I'm a New Yorker in exile. Not making eye contact as much as >>>> out-of-towners is certainly true - you have so many people >>>> 'in your face' walking around (lowest car ownership in the >>>> country) or on the subway that its simple politeness. Not >>>> looking up - no more that the native inhabitants of any >>>> other city. > > I can remember being instructed by my parents - Dad raised in > Queens, Mom from Brooklyn - How To Act In The City when I was > very young. "Don't stare up at tall buildings, unless you > want to be spotted as a hick* from the sticks" was one of the > prime rules, along with not cutting across grass next to paved > walkways, and leaving jaywalking to the professionals. > >> How many times has Dorothy gone out of her way to >>>> cross the Golden Gate, >>> >>> Well, you cross the GGB if you are going from San Francisco to >>> San Rafael, or vice versa. I live in the North Bay, and the one >>> we cross at least once a week (just got back, in fact) is the >>> Carquinez, from Vallejo to (ultimately) Berkeley. >>> >>>> visit Alcatraz, >>> >>> Never did, not particularly interested. >>> >>>> or Telegraph Hill, >>> >>> I've been there; not recent. >>> >>>> ? or >>>> drive down Lombard Street? >>> >>> Every time we have visitors from out-of-town, we make a special >>> trip to take them there. >>> >>> We also take them down Fell Street, which is a couple of blocks >>> over from Lombard and on a hill *almost* as steep. As you head >>> down it, it looks as if you are about to plunge down a cliff. >>> Always gets a reaction. >>> >>> Perhaps a better analogy would be, How often do New Yorkers go to >>> Boston to look at the USS Constitution? or Philadelphia, to look >>> the the Liberty Bell? From where we live, San Francisco is two >>> bridges and at least an hour's drive away. Or a walk, a bus >>> ride, and BART under the bay, about the same time required. >> >> The question was raised 'Is it true that New Yorkers never look up >> at the tall buildings'. I was showing that the same is true pretty >> much everywhere (I should have said 'cross the GGB *on* *foot*). >> You do the sights only for visitors, never for yourself. >> >>>> Has she been to the Disney Family Museum? >>> >>> Is that in the Bay Area?? You'd think it would be in Anaheim. >>> (My daughter and son-in-law do take me to Bats' Day at Disneyland >>> almost every spring.) >> >> Its in the San Francisco Presidio: >> http://waltdisney.com/ >> >> > > The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have > never visited key landmarks. That's just a NYC specific version of a general rule about people who live in high tourism areas. -- Running the rec.arts.TV Channels Watched Survey. Fall 2016 survey began Sep 01 and will end Nov 30
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-10 01:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3n8mvblk4v8gf3m166io5rrp2bmr0lu69r@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #453541 |
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:10:31 -0700, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 10/9/2016 3:34 PM, Kevrob wrote: >> >> The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have >> never visited key landmarks. > >That's just a NYC specific version of a general rule about people who >live in high tourism areas. I grew up in a fairly touristed area, and we DID go visit some of the landmarks -- partly because Lexington Green is kind of hard to avoid when going through Lexington, and Walden Pond had the closest beach for swimming and you had to go past Emerson's and Alcott's houses to get there, but also to make fun of the tourists. My best friend Jack and I used to listen to the people getting off the tour buses at Lexington Green and guess which ones would make the Two Inevitable Comments: "I thought it was square!" (It's a triangle), and "It's so small! How could they have a battle here?" -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-10-10 12:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oEu0MI.G4u@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #453558 |
In article <3n8mvblk4v8gf3m166io5rrp2bmr0lu69r@reader80.eternal-september.org>, Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote: >On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:10:31 -0700, Dimensional Traveler ><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: > >>On 10/9/2016 3:34 PM, Kevrob wrote: >>> >>> The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have >>> never visited key landmarks. >> >>That's just a NYC specific version of a general rule about people who >>live in high tourism areas. > >I grew up in a fairly touristed area, and we DID go visit some of the >landmarks -- partly because Lexington Green is kind of hard to avoid >when going through Lexington, and Walden Pond had the closest beach >for swimming and you had to go past Emerson's and Alcott's houses to >get there, but also to make fun of the tourists. My best friend Jack >and I used to listen to the people getting off the tour buses at >Lexington Green and guess which ones would make the Two Inevitable >Comments: > >"I thought it was square!" (It's a triangle), and > >"It's so small! How could they have a battle here?" Hal, who has actually lived on the East Coast, comments, "It wasn't a very big battle." -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-10 11:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <j1cnvbl7phn268ios4hvqkp5v312u03402@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #453564 |
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:42:18 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote: >In article <3n8mvblk4v8gf3m166io5rrp2bmr0lu69r@reader80.eternal-september.org>, >Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote: >>On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:10:31 -0700, Dimensional Traveler >><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >> >>>On 10/9/2016 3:34 PM, Kevrob wrote: >>>> >>>> The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have >>>> never visited key landmarks. >>> >>>That's just a NYC specific version of a general rule about people who >>>live in high tourism areas. >> >>I grew up in a fairly touristed area, and we DID go visit some of the >>landmarks -- partly because Lexington Green is kind of hard to avoid >>when going through Lexington, and Walden Pond had the closest beach >>for swimming and you had to go past Emerson's and Alcott's houses to >>get there, but also to make fun of the tourists. My best friend Jack >>and I used to listen to the people getting off the tour buses at >>Lexington Green and guess which ones would make the Two Inevitable >>Comments: >> >>"I thought it was square!" (It's a triangle), and >> >>"It's so small! How could they have a battle here?" > >Hal, who has actually lived on the East Coast, comments, "It >wasn't a very big battle." True enough. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-10 11:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d65ada10-683e-41a0-9d6c-26e01eecad1a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #453534 |
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 23:34:38 UTC+1, Kevrob wrote: > The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have > never visited key landmarks. Helene Hanff - Wikipedia says - was born in Philadelphia, but once in New York City she did a good job of ignoring the sights - until she decided to become a tourist and to make a book out of it, _Apple of My Eye_, which I enjoyed. I think I get name checked :-) (surname anyway...)
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| From | Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-10 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64892011-f8a3-403d-b4ab-316ec8546bdc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #453587 |
On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:27:52 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: > On Sunday, 9 October 2016 23:34:38 UTC+1, Kevrob wrote: > > The NYC cliche is that those who grow up in the 5 boroughs often have > > never visited key landmarks. > > Helene Hanff - Wikipedia says - was born in Philadelphia, > but once in New York City she did a good job of ignoring > the sights - until she decided to become a tourist and to > make a book out of it, _Apple of My Eye_, which I enjoyed. > I think I get name checked :-) (surname anyway...) I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. pt
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-10-11 00:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oEuxG6.390@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #453589 |
In article <64892011-f8a3-403d-b4ab-316ec8546bdc@googlegroups.com>, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > >I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor >actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" > >With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. Bravo. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> |
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| Date | 2016-12-03 18:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o1v1jj$dmc$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #453589 |
On 2016-10-10, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor > actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" > > With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. I don't get it; what temptation? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable request for directions at that location. ObSF&F: Old man Cazaril briefly considering giving a troop of soldiers wrong directions in _The Curse of Chalion_, but thinking better of it and sending them the right way. (It's literally the first thing that happens in the book (and universe), so this is the smallest of all possible spoilers)
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2016-12-03 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eagi32Fj319U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #458852 |
In article <o1v1jj$dmc$2@dont-email.me>, Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote: >On 2016-10-10, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor >> actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" >> >> With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. > >I don't get it; what temptation? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable >request for directions at that location. > Apparently it hasn't made it across the pond, but it's been understood in the US since Vaudville days that the correct answer to that question is: "Practice!" -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> |
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| Date | 2016-12-03 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o1vaen$et4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #458856 |
On 2016-12-03, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote: > In article <o1v1jj$dmc$2@dont-email.me>, > Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote: >>On 2016-10-10, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor >>> actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" >>> >>> With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. >> >>I don't get it; what temptation? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable >>request for directions at that location. >> > > Apparently it hasn't made it across the pond, but it's been understood > in the US since Vaudville days that the correct answer to that question is: > > "Practice!" Ah, I was caught in the "clueless visitor" theme of the thread, thinking the lost visitor had committed a grave faux pas.
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-03 13:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o1vdae$ncb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #458856 |
In article <eagi32Fj319U1@mid.individual.net>, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote: > In article <o1v1jj$dmc$2@dont-email.me>, > Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote: > >On 2016-10-10, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor > >> actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" > >> > >> With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. > > > >I don't get it; what temptation? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable > >request for directions at that location. > > > > Apparently it hasn't made it across the pond, but it's been understood > in the US since Vaudville days that the correct answer to that question is: > > "Practice!" Correction: "Practice, practice, practice!" :) -- Brought to you by the letter K and the number .357 Security provided by Horace S. & Dan W.
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| From | Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-03 22:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32ad57bd310fabb99899bc@news.kolumbus.fi> |
| In reply to | #458852 |
In article <o1v1jj$dmc$2@dont-email.me>, rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk says... > > On 2016-10-10, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I was once crossing Central Park on foot, and an woman visitor > > actually asked me "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" > > > > With extreme difficulty, I held back temptation and gave her directions. > > I don't get it; what temptation? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable > request for directions at that location. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doK9Jo0wVx8 -- Juho Julkunen
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