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| Started by | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-07 14:05 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-06-07 21:55 -0700 |
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170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-07 14:05 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-07 13:19 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-07 15:29 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 13:36 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:20 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:53 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:02 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:30 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-11 10:57 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 05:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 14:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 14:45 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 23:34 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 18:05 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 22:17 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-08 05:43 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 07:44 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-08 14:12 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 13:18 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 13:33 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:01 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 00:21 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:04 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:31 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 06:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 17:10 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 03:15 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:24 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:28 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 06:48 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 07:16 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 08:20 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 10:27 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:54 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:56 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 03:17 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:20 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-07 22:32 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 02:55 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:25 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:54 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 10:44 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-08 17:26 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 15:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-08 18:48 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 00:08 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 18:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 03:31 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 02:48 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:22 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 10:15 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 18:24 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 20:15 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-10 04:26 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 06:03 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-11 07:19 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 15:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 13:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 23:39 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 18:08 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-12 04:33 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-13 14:17 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 15:01 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-14 00:22 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 02:30 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-12 14:17 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 14:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 00:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 06:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 15:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 08:50 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 16:58 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-13 17:22 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 04:54 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-13 22:40 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-14 03:35 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 06:07 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-14 06:51 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 14:38 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2016-06-14 10:07 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 16:30 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> - 2016-07-07 00:16 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 14:37 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-14 14:25 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 23:13 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-15 02:03 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 03:37 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-15 13:53 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-15 14:06 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-15 22:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-10 03:36 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-10 14:28 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-10 19:09 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:14 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 18:28 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 18:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 03:35 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 14:16 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-10 02:31 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:32 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:34 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 21:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2016-06-09 18:00 +1200
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 23:32 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:25 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-06-08 23:51 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:08 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:12 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 12:05 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:22 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-08 18:50 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 19:21 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 04:14 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-09 03:29 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 08:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-10 02:29 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:33 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-06-11 06:11 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 18:26 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 11:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 12:42 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 18:10 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-10 02:31 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 09:01 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-09 18:56 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 05:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-11 07:27 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-09 07:04 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-07 20:14 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-07 20:37 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 21:16 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:55 -0700
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-10 04:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8JGCp.16x@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441640 |
In article <7b05c1ca-e038-4be2-9b83-fe54f59aac45@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <1c0ab51a-3740-488e-996a-a6eb29b1b4ba@googlegroups.com>, >> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >> >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes, we were researching them last week (Hal had bought some >> >> salmon dip for a party, but I have to be super-paranoid about >> >> carbohydrates), and when you read the fine print they're just >> >> a small proportion of $VEGETABLE to a whole lot of potato or flour. >> >> >> > >> >I haven't done this, myself, but I understand some people use a food >> >dehydrator and make nothing-but-veggie "chips." >> >> I'm seventy-four. This process sounds as if it would take more >> money, plus energy, than I've got. >> >> >I've no idea how >the things might taste. I have had banana chips >> made that way, but I think that may be on your "avoid" list, >> >> Yup. > >I bought a 3 oz bag of crinkle cut sweet potato chips at Dollar >Tree for, as you might guess, a buck. A 1 oz serving is supposed >to have 13g carbs, 2g of that being sugars. Ingredients: >sweet potatoes, cottonseed oil, and sea salt. Made by an >outfit in OH called "BBI." 1 0z is supposed to be 20 chips. > >They were pretty good. The carbs are equal to ~ half an actual >sweet potato, though. 13 carbs is about 8-10 more than I can handle. It is a bore. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 06:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <853d1ea7-6269-49d6-9a28-1ec216acf909@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441617 |
On Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:30:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <1c0ab51a-3740-488e-996a-a6eb29b1b4ba@googlegroups.com>, > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> > >> Yes, we were researching them last week (Hal had bought some > >> salmon dip for a party, but I have to be super-paranoid about > >> carbohydrates), and when you read the fine print they're just > >> a small proportion of $VEGETABLE to a whole lot of potato or flour. > >> > > > >I haven't done this, myself, but I understand some people use a food > >dehydrator and make nothing-but-veggie "chips." > > I'm seventy-four. This process sounds as if it would take more > money, plus energy, than I've got. I hesitate to mention time. Vegetables dry out if sliced and left, presumably, but the value of the exercise is doubtful. I suppose you end up with something that resembles the popular food of potato chips, but, nutritionally, you may as well eat vegetables when they're wet. This subject also reminds me to check whether some important items of laundry have dehydrated, yet. So I'll go and do that.
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 07:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1d644d69-7679-4b76-9e19-27171c26dce9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441745 |
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 9:03:41 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:30:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > In article <1c0ab51a-3740-488e-996a-a6eb29b1b4ba@googlegroups.com>, > > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > >> > > >> Yes, we were researching them last week (Hal had bought some > > >> salmon dip for a party, but I have to be super-paranoid about > > >> carbohydrates), and when you read the fine print they're just > > >> a small proportion of $VEGETABLE to a whole lot of potato or flour. > > >> > > > > > >I haven't done this, myself, but I understand some people use a food > > >dehydrator and make nothing-but-veggie "chips." > > > > I'm seventy-four. This process sounds as if it would take more > > money, plus energy, than I've got. > > I hesitate to mention time. Vegetables dry out if > sliced and left, presumably, but the value of the > exercise is doubtful. I suppose you end up with > something that resembles the popular food of potato > chips, but, nutritionally, you may as well eat > vegetables when they're wet. > Salmon dip could just as easily be scooped with raw veggies, suitably sliced, anyway. Carrot sticks, celery, etc. > This subject also reminds me to check whether some > important items of laundry have dehydrated, yet. > So I'll go and do that. Hope they didn't turn into sartorial jerky! Kevin R
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 15:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8M4K2.1B0z@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441747 |
In article <1d644d69-7679-4b76-9e19-27171c26dce9@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 9:03:41 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: >> On Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:30:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> > In article <1c0ab51a-3740-488e-996a-a6eb29b1b4ba@googlegroups.com>, >> > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >> > >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Yes, we were researching them last week (Hal had bought some >> > >> salmon dip for a party, but I have to be super-paranoid about >> > >> carbohydrates), and when you read the fine print they're just >> > >> a small proportion of $VEGETABLE to a whole lot of potato or flour. >> > >> >> > > >> > >I haven't done this, myself, but I understand some people use a food >> > >dehydrator and make nothing-but-veggie "chips." >> > >> > I'm seventy-four. This process sounds as if it would take more >> > money, plus energy, than I've got. >> >> I hesitate to mention time. Vegetables dry out if >> sliced and left, presumably, but the value of the >> exercise is doubtful. I suppose you end up with >> something that resembles the popular food of potato >> chips, but, nutritionally, you may as well eat >> vegetables when they're wet. >> > >Salmon dip could just as easily be scooped with raw >veggies, suitably sliced, anyway. Carrot sticks, >celery, etc. Except I don't like raw celery. And carrots have too high a glycemic index. Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the problem will solve itself. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 13:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441749 |
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <1d644d69-7679-4b76-9e19-27171c26dce9@googlegroups.com>, > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 9:03:41 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: > >> On Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:30:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> > In article <1c0ab51a-3740-488e-996a-a6eb29b1b4ba@googlegroups.com>, > >> > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > >> > >On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, we were researching them last week (Hal had bought some > >> > >> salmon dip for a party, but I have to be super-paranoid about > >> > >> carbohydrates), and when you read the fine print they're just > >> > >> a small proportion of $VEGETABLE to a whole lot of potato or flour. > >> > > > >> > >I haven't done this, myself, but I understand some people use a food > >> > >dehydrator and make nothing-but-veggie "chips." > >> > > >> > I'm seventy-four. This process sounds as if it would take more > >> > money, plus energy, than I've got. If you slice veggies thin anyway it's no extra bother, but a dehydrator just sits on a countertop taking up space. > >> I hesitate to mention time. Vegetables dry out if > >> sliced and left, presumably, but the value of the > >> exercise is doubtful. I suppose you end up with > >> something that resembles the popular food of potato > >> chips, but, nutritionally, you may as well eat > >> vegetables when they're wet. > > > >Salmon dip could just as easily be scooped with raw > >veggies, suitably sliced, anyway. Carrot sticks, > >celery, etc. > > Except I don't like raw celery. And carrots have too high a > glycemic index. > > Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the > problem will solve itself. My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. Good thing the wife likes grilled cheese sammiches, but we can't overdo those because she also had a heart attack, so we have to watch the fat intake, but we stick to sharp cheddar which you need less of to get the equivalent flavor of less sharp cheese. Bread is a problem. The really high-fiber/relatively low glycemic index varieties that we like are expensive as hell, but really flavorful, like Bigfoot and Ezekiel brands. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 23:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8MsDq.EMw@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441763 |
In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >> problem will solve itself. > > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. Not for me, it doesn't. >Good thing the wife likes grilled cheese sammiches, but we can't overdo >those because she also had a heart attack, so we have to watch the fat >intake, but we stick to sharp cheddar which you need less of to get the >equivalent flavor of less sharp cheese. I can't eat bread at all. My lunch generally consists of a couple of slices of ham, with low-fat cheese melted over it in the microwave. And some vegetable or other, but (vide supra) the number of vegetables I can eat and am willing to eat is low. Usually spinach, but today it was broccoli. > Bread is a problem. The really high-fiber/relatively low glycemic >index varieties that we like are expensive as hell, but really >flavorful, like Bigfoot and Ezekiel brands. I have never found *any* kind of bread in any store in my part of the US that's low-carbohydrate. Gluten-free, yes, up the wazoo, but I have no trouble with gluten. I make a sort of English muffin out of flaxmeal (with vital wheat gluten added) that I can eat a couple of times a week. Recipe upon request. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 18:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA624B89BBB31Etaustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #441782 |
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:o8MsDq.EMw@kithrup.com:
> In article
> <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>,
> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt
>>wrote:
>>> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the
>>> problem will solve itself.
>>
>> My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out
>> carbs (in
>>terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does
>>protein.
>
> Not for me, it doesn't.
At the class my insurance sent me to, they told us dietary fiber
counted as half. But it still counted.
You're rather more severely diabetic than most. That makes it much
more difficult.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 04:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8n5zo.13Jx@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441788 |
In article <XnsA624B89BBB31Etaustingmail@69.16.179.43>, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >news:o8MsDq.EMw@kithrup.com: > >> In article >> <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>>On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt >>>wrote: >>>> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >>>> problem will solve itself. >>> >>> My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out >>> carbs (in >>>terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does >>>protein. >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. > >At the class my insurance sent me to, they told us dietary fiber >counted as half. But it still counted. > >You're rather more severely diabetic than most. That makes it much >more difficult. I am, darn it, and it does. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 14:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ds7q21F2racU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #441798 |
"Dorothy J Heydt" wrote >>You're rather more severely diabetic than most. That makes it much more >>difficult. > I am, darn it, and it does. Have you tried slices of Aubergine (eggplant) I choose it for the low calories, but http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/sainsburys-aubergine-per-100g-330510711?v2=false seems pretty low carb at 2g per 100g (other sources say 6g) I slice, spread with tomato paste and/or skimmed milk cheese, microwave. -- Mike D
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 15:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8ptqH.8nK@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441934 |
In article <ds7q21F2racU1@mid.individual.net>, Michael R N Dolbear <m.dolbear@physics.org> wrote: > >"Dorothy J Heydt" wrote > >>>You're rather more severely diabetic than most. That makes it much more >>>difficult. > >> I am, darn it, and it does. > > >Have you tried slices of Aubergine (eggplant) > >I choose it for the low calories, but >http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/sainsburys-aubergine-per-100g-330510711?v2=false > >seems pretty low carb at 2g per 100g (other sources say 6g) Yes, it is, and I love eggplant, but cooking it generally involves a certain amount of (a) work and (b) oil. Or the above and (c) breading, which is not a good idea. Also, no one else in the household is willing to touch it, not even with waldoes. Once in a blue moon we order in Chinese, and I get an order of garlic eggplant and get it all to myself over the next couple of days. > >I slice, spread with tomato paste and/or skimmed milk cheese, microwave. Hmmm, I may try that. Thanks. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 00:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ds8ti4Fa1h5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #441939 |
"Dorothy J Heydt" wrote >>Have you tried slices of Aubergine (eggplant) >>I choose it for the low calories, but >>http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/sainsburys-aubergine-per-100g-330510711?v2=false >>seems pretty low carb at 2g per 100g (other sources say 6g) >Yes, it is, and I love eggplant, but cooking it generally involves a certain amount of (a) work and (b) oil. Or the above and (c) breading, which is not a good idea. >Also, no one else in the household is willing to touch it, not even with waldoes. Once in a blue moon we order in Chinese, and I get an order of garlic eggplant and get it all to myself over the next couple of days. >>I slice, spread with tomato paste and/or skimmed milk cheese, microwave. > Hmmm, I may try that. Thanks. http://forum.spamcop.net/topic/10544-aubergineeggplant-snack-or-starter-no-oil/ The recipe is very forgiving, hence the 'non-measured' version. -- Mike D
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 02:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441782 |
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, > nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the > >> problem will solve itself. > > > > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in > >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. > > Not for me, it doesn't. Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. > >Good thing the wife likes grilled cheese sammiches, but we can't overdo > >those because she also had a heart attack, so we have to watch the fat > >intake, but we stick to sharp cheddar which you need less of to get the > >equivalent flavor of less sharp cheese. > > I can't eat bread at all. My lunch generally consists of a > couple of slices of ham, with low-fat cheese melted over it in > the microwave. And some vegetable or other, but (vide supra) the > number of vegetables I can eat and am willing to eat is low. > Usually spinach, but today it was broccoli. > > > Bread is a problem. The really high-fiber/relatively low glycemic > >index varieties that we like are expensive as hell, but really > >flavorful, like Bigfoot and Ezekiel brands. > > I have never found *any* kind of bread in any store in my part of > the US that's low-carbohydrate. Gluten-free, yes, up the wazoo, > but I have no trouble with gluten. I make a sort of English > muffin out of flaxmeal (with vital wheat gluten added) that I can > eat a couple of times a week. Recipe upon request. Well, bread is *designed* to provide carbs, and it depends on what you mean by "low": https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/2013/03/low-carb-bread-options/ What's the carbs/per for your muffins? Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 14:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8nx0u.p5J@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441815 |
In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >> >> problem will solve itself. >> > >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. > > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. > >> >Good thing the wife likes grilled cheese sammiches, but we can't overdo >> >those because she also had a heart attack, so we have to watch the fat >> >intake, but we stick to sharp cheddar which you need less of to get the >> >equivalent flavor of less sharp cheese. >> >> I can't eat bread at all. My lunch generally consists of a >> couple of slices of ham, with low-fat cheese melted over it in >> the microwave. And some vegetable or other, but (vide supra) the >> number of vegetables I can eat and am willing to eat is low. >> Usually spinach, but today it was broccoli. >> >> > Bread is a problem. The really high-fiber/relatively low glycemic >> >index varieties that we like are expensive as hell, but really >> >flavorful, like Bigfoot and Ezekiel brands. >> >> I have never found *any* kind of bread in any store in my part of >> the US that's low-carbohydrate. Gluten-free, yes, up the wazoo, >> but I have no trouble with gluten. I make a sort of English >> muffin out of flaxmeal (with vital wheat gluten added) that I can >> eat a couple of times a week. Recipe upon request. > > Well, bread is *designed* to provide carbs, and it depends on what you >mean by "low": > >https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/2013/03/low-carb-bread-options/ I looked at those. 11 carbs ... 24 ... ouch. > > What's the carbs/per for your muffins? Dammit, I used to know. I had carefully calculated out the carbs in the entire 12-muffin recipe and divided by 12. Then malware took out ALL my text files. But I used to be able to eat one every day for breakfast, except ... flaxmeal is a laxative. I now eat one twice a week: otherwise breakfast is two turkey sausages and a couple of scrambled eggs. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com > > > Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 14:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2376a148-7fbd-4844-b5c1-b0b228c0714b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441823 |
On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, > nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, > >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the > >> >> problem will solve itself. > >> > > >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in > >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. > >> > >> Not for me, it doesn't. > > > > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. > > I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I > have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. Do what we do when we go shopping; eat first, then go. It really helps kill the reflexive "I useta be able to eat that" cravings. It also helps to re-categorize junk food as "poison" in your mind, but that takes time. > >> >Good thing the wife likes grilled cheese sammiches, but we can't overdo > >> >those because she also had a heart attack, so we have to watch the fat > >> >intake, but we stick to sharp cheddar which you need less of to get the > >> >equivalent flavor of less sharp cheese. > >> > >> I can't eat bread at all. My lunch generally consists of a > >> couple of slices of ham, with low-fat cheese melted over it in > >> the microwave. And some vegetable or other, but (vide supra) the > >> number of vegetables I can eat and am willing to eat is low. > >> Usually spinach, but today it was broccoli. > >> > >> > Bread is a problem. The really high-fiber/relatively low glycemic > >> >index varieties that we like are expensive as hell, but really > >> >flavorful, like Bigfoot and Ezekiel brands. > >> > >> I have never found *any* kind of bread in any store in my part of > >> the US that's low-carbohydrate. Gluten-free, yes, up the wazoo, > >> but I have no trouble with gluten. I make a sort of English > >> muffin out of flaxmeal (with vital wheat gluten added) that I can > >> eat a couple of times a week. Recipe upon request. > > > > Well, bread is *designed* to provide carbs, and it depends on what you > >mean by "low": > > > >https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/2013/03/low-carb-bread-options/ > > I looked at those. 11 carbs ... 24 ... ouch. Wife is groaning in sympathy. > > What's the carbs/per for your muffins? > > Dammit, I used to know. I had carefully calculated out the carbs > in the entire 12-muffin recipe and divided by 12. Then malware took > out ALL my text files. Yeah, sometimes dead-tree is the way to go. > But I used to be able to eat one every day for breakfast, except > ... flaxmeal is a laxative. I now eat one twice a week: > otherwise breakfast is two turkey sausages and a couple of > scrambled eggs. Wife wants to know if you know about hempseed as a food/supplement: Total Carbohydrates 2g Dietary Fiber 1g Sugars <1g Protein 11g per 3 tbsp "serving", plus omega-3 fatty acids (the "good" kind which is good for anybody plus *all* essential amino acids, minerals and whatnot- it really lives up to the name "superfood". And no, it won't get you high or show up in a drug test. Wife puts it on salads, baked potatoes (I know, you can't eat those either) and all kinds of stuff that can handle the addition of sort of a toasted nutty/savory flavor. It ain't cheap though. We get it at WallyWorld because it's a bit cheaper than at Safeway. It does contain about 170 calories per serving but they're protein calories (meaning it can replace some of the meats in your diet), and the fiber does have a "mild" laxative effect, not as much as say wheat bran or flax. http://www.livestrong.com/article/167905-what-are-the-benefits-of-hemp-seeds/ You can also get it in flour form to bake with: http://www.hippiebutter.com/hemp-seed-flour/ I told her you've researched this nearly to death but that I'd tell you about hempseed Justin Case you hadn't heard of it. We know from experience that it's really hard to find decent food in your typical grocery store, but it's not impossible. A couple years ago I read that General Mills and Kellogg's were losing market share and didn't seem to know what to do to fix it, so I wrote them suggesting they rebrand their sugary kid-oriented brands for adults, replacing the sugar with Splenda and doing other things to bring "health food" more into the mainstream. I explained that the demographics of diet have changed drastically- fewer kids overall and more adults who just can't eat high sugar, high gluten, high fat etc. crap and that we're tired of having to look for a "health food aisle". Why not make every aisle the health food aisle? Executive VPs actually thanked me for my input and said that the points I made were coming up more and more at internal meetings- the nutrition labels on their products are actually starting to show that at least two Big Food companies see the demographic writing on the wall. Wife still can't eat Frosted Flakes, but Rice Krispies are fine. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 00:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8op2D.236t@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441851 |
In article <2376a148-7fbd-4844-b5c1-b0b228c0714b@googlegroups.com>, nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >> >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >> >> >> problem will solve itself. >> >> > >> >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >> >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. >> >> >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. >> > >> > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. >> >> I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I >> have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. > > Do what we do when we go shopping; eat first, then go. It really helps >kill the reflexive "I useta be able to eat that" cravings. It also helps >to re-categorize junk food as "poison" in your mind, but that takes >time. Mostly Hal does the shopping. When I go along, I stand in the pastry aisle (right inside the front door) and sort of whimper till Hal comes in with the shopping cart and drags me away. I *know* I can't eat any of that stuff. The problem is finding things I *can* eat and am willing to eat. I've been ordered to eat vegetables with every meal. What, with breakfast? so I drink some tomato juice. That leaves lunch and dinner, that also leaves about three vegetables that fit both the categories above. It's a hell of a life, said the Queen of Spain. ... >> > Well, bread is *designed* to provide carbs, and it depends on what you >> >mean by "low": >> > >> >https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/2013/03/low-carb-bread-options/ >> >> I looked at those. 11 carbs ... 24 ... ouch. > > Wife is groaning in sympathy. > >> > What's the carbs/per for your muffins? >> >> Dammit, I used to know. I had carefully calculated out the carbs >> in the entire 12-muffin recipe and divided by 12. Then malware took >> out ALL my text files. > > Yeah, sometimes dead-tree is the way to go. > >> But I used to be able to eat one every day for breakfast, except >> ... flaxmeal is a laxative. I now eat one twice a week: >> otherwise breakfast is two turkey sausages and a couple of >> scrambled eggs. > > Wife wants to know if you know about hempseed as a food/supplement: Not really. /google Bob's Red Mill sells "hulled hemp seed hearts, 3T = carbs. Not bad, except it doesn't look as if you can bake ~bread with it unless you grind it yourself. And they've got a recipe for "hempseed macaroons" which looks lovely until you look at the ingredients, which is mostly coconut flour, plus dried cherries! and honey!! and chocolate chips!!! > >... > per 3 tbsp "serving", plus omega-3 fatty acids (the "good" kind which >is good for anybody plus *all* essential amino acids, minerals and >whatnot- it really lives up to the name "superfood". And no, it won't >get you high or show up in a drug test. Wife puts it on salads, baked >potatoes (I know, you can't eat those either) and all kinds of stuff >that can handle the addition of sort of a toasted nutty/savory flavor. >It ain't cheap though. We get it at WallyWorld because it's a bit >cheaper than at Safeway. > > It does contain about 170 calories per serving but they're protein >calories (meaning it can replace some of the meats in your diet), and >the fiber does have a "mild" laxative effect, not as much as say wheat >bran or flax. Doesn't sound at all appetizing, really. I'm afraid it would come under the heading of things I could eat if I could stand to which I don't. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. > > We know from experience that it's really hard to find decent food in >your typical grocery store.... Bob's Red Mill sells an incredible variety of flours/grains/meals/whatnot. You might look them up and see if they have anything you havne't tried and might like to. > Wife still can't eat Frosted Flakes, but Rice Krispies are fine. > She's better off than I am. This is something we already knew. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 06:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c578710d-17bf-45a2-9186-9964826e8538@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441823 |
On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, > nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, > >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the > >> >> problem will solve itself. > >> > > >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in > >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. > >> > >> Not for me, it doesn't. > > > > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. > > I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I > have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. Giant turkey legs don't do it for you, I guess. (I think they're pretty nasty myself) I like meat, and am not wildly enamored of breads, so doing a low-carb diet is relatively easy for me (though I rarely go as low as you apparently do. My sympathies.) pt pt
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 15:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8ptvM.8y6@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441935 |
In article <c578710d-17bf-45a2-9186-9964826e8538@googlegroups.com>, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >> >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >> >> >> problem will solve itself. >> >> > >> >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >> >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. >> >> >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. >> > >> > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. >> >> I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I >> have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. > >Giant turkey legs don't do it for you, I guess. >(I think they're pretty nasty myself) I wasn't aware they had giant turkey legs at Disneyland. I remember them from long ago at the Renaissance Faire, and they're meaty, all right, but the masses of tendons (made necessary in the course of breeding a gigantic turkey that can maybe still walk while alive) make it hard to get to the meat. > >I like meat, and am not wildly enamored of breads, so doing a >low-carb diet is relatively easy for me (though I rarely go as low as >you apparently do. My sympathies.) Thanks. Oh, I like meat too, but it's expensive. I exist mostly on sliced ham from Costco, hamburger, and Foster Farms chicken parts. It's the lack of variety that gets annoying. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 08:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57493565-3175-4a21-acef-b155b179eaa4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441940 |
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <c578710d-17bf-45a2-9186-9964826e8538@googlegroups.com>, > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, > >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, > >> >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > >> >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the > >> >> >> problem will solve itself. > >> >> > > >> >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in > >> >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. > >> >> > >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. > >> > > >> > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. > >> > >> I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I > >> have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. > > > >Giant turkey legs don't do it for you, I guess. > >(I think they're pretty nasty myself) > > I wasn't aware they had giant turkey legs at Disneyland. I > remember them from long ago at the Renaissance Faire, and they're > meaty, all right, but the masses of tendons (made necessary in > the course of breeding a gigantic turkey that can maybe still > walk while alive) make it hard to get to the meat. http://www.wonderandcompany.com/disney-turkey-legs/ http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?142010-Disney-Turkey-Leg-Where-are-they-located pt
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 16:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8pz5F.ID7@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441943 |
In article <57493565-3175-4a21-acef-b155b179eaa4@googlegroups.com>, Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article <c578710d-17bf-45a2-9186-9964826e8538@googlegroups.com>, >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, >> >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> >> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >> >> >> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> >> >> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >> >> >> >> problem will solve itself. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >> >> >> >terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. >> >> >> >> >> >> Not for me, it doesn't. >> >> > >> >> > Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. >> >> >> >> I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I >> >> have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. >> > >> >Giant turkey legs don't do it for you, I guess. >> >(I think they're pretty nasty myself) >> >> I wasn't aware they had giant turkey legs at Disneyland. I >> remember them from long ago at the Renaissance Faire, and they're >> meaty, all right, but the masses of tendons (made necessary in >> the course of breeding a gigantic turkey that can maybe still >> walk while alive) make it hard to get to the meat. > >http://www.wonderandcompany.com/disney-turkey-legs/ >http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?142010-Disney-Turkey-Leg-Where-are-they-located Okay, that explains it. They're sold at stands that also sell things I can't eat and do my best to avoid. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 17:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <njnio3$eu3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #441951 |
On 6/13/2016 9:58 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <57493565-3175-4a21-acef-b155b179eaa4@googlegroups.com>, > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>> In article <c578710d-17bf-45a2-9186-9964826e8538@googlegroups.com>, >>> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>> In article <7a0d4221-19b3-4b07-b1f7-cf24cff51e8a@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 4:45:04 PM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>>>> In article <50c9afd4-179e-4bc4-8d3f-3ce804e9d153@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>> nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hal has been steadily eating up the salmon dip, so the >>>>>>>>> problem will solve itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My wife's doctors point out that fiber sort of cancels out carbs (in >>>>>>>> terms of digestive conversion to sugar over time), and so does protein. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not for me, it doesn't. >>>>>> >>>>>> Damn. I'm glad I don't have to prepare *your* meals. >>>>> >>>>> I get pretty bored with it myself. The real problem is when I >>>>> have to go out somewhere. Disneyland is the worst. >>>> >>>> Giant turkey legs don't do it for you, I guess. >>>> (I think they're pretty nasty myself) >>> >>> I wasn't aware they had giant turkey legs at Disneyland. I >>> remember them from long ago at the Renaissance Faire, and they're >>> meaty, all right, but the masses of tendons (made necessary in >>> the course of breeding a gigantic turkey that can maybe still >>> walk while alive) make it hard to get to the meat. >> >> http://www.wonderandcompany.com/disney-turkey-legs/ >> http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?142010-Disney-Turkey-Leg-Where-are-they-located > > Okay, that explains it. They're sold at stands that also sell > things I can't eat and do my best to avoid. > Temptation, thy name is Giant Turkey Leg? -- Running the rec.arts.TV Channels Watched Survey for Summer 2016
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