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| Started by | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-07 14:05 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-06-07 21:55 -0700 |
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170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-07 14:05 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-07 13:19 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-07 15:29 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 13:36 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:20 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:53 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:02 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:30 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-11 10:57 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 05:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 14:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 14:45 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 23:34 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 18:05 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 22:17 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-08 05:43 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 07:44 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-08 14:12 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 13:18 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 13:33 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:01 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 00:21 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:04 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:31 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 06:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 17:10 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 03:15 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:24 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:28 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 06:48 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 07:16 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 08:20 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 10:27 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:54 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:56 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 03:17 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:20 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-07 22:32 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 15:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 02:55 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:25 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:54 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 10:44 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-08 17:26 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 15:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-08 18:48 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 00:08 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 18:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 03:31 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 02:48 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:22 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 10:15 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 18:24 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 20:15 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-10 04:26 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 06:03 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-11 07:19 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 15:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 13:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-11 23:39 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 18:08 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-12 04:33 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-13 14:17 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 15:01 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-14 00:22 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 02:30 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-12 14:17 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 14:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 00:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 06:23 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 15:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 08:50 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-13 16:58 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-13 17:22 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 04:54 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-13 22:40 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-14 03:35 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 06:07 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-14 06:51 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 14:38 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2016-06-14 10:07 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 16:30 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> - 2016-07-07 00:16 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 14:37 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-14 14:25 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-14 23:13 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-15 02:03 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 03:37 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-15 13:53 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-15 14:06 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-15 22:04 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-10 03:36 +0100
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-10 14:28 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-10 19:09 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:14 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 18:28 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-08 18:57 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 03:35 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 14:16 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-10 02:31 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:32 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:34 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-08 21:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2016-06-09 18:00 +1200
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-08 23:32 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 16:25 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-06-08 23:51 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:08 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-10 12:12 +0800
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 09:52 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 12:05 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:00 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 14:22 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-08 18:50 -0400
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 19:21 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-09 04:14 -0600
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-09 03:29 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 08:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-10 02:29 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:33 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-06-11 06:11 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-09 18:26 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 11:49 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-09 12:42 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 18:10 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-10 02:31 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 09:01 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-09 18:56 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-11 05:58 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-11 07:27 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-09 07:04 -0500
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-08 13:23 +0000
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-07 20:14 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-07 20:37 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-07 21:16 -0700
Re: 170 days to Thanksgiving Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 21:55 -0700
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 14:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f293180-e526-4dd2-9918-010698357342@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441499 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 12:06:00 PM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote: (snip) > The range of birdshot is only about 300 years Time-traveling ammunition! Now there's a SF story hook... Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 18:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nstjrg6ckwc5$.52qks0uhmok2$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #441499 |
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in<news:d4e2e397-1896-4628-8d7d-8ecf9680802e@googlegroups.com> in rec.arts.sf.written: [...] > The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, [...] Forwards, or back? Brian -- It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their holes to root for sandtatties. The waves whispered rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss, haggisss.
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| From | Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 19:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA621CF15D8FA7melchizedek@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #441526 |
"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote in news:nstjrg6ckwc5 $.52qks0uhmok2$.dlg@40tude.net: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei > <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote > in<news:d4e2e397-1896-4628-8d7d-8ecf9680802e@googlegroups.com> > in rec.arts.sf.written: > > [...] > >> The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, [...] > > Forwards, or back? Depends on the shot type.... Seriously s/years/yards/ pt
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 04:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <drstsnFrlt0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #441499 |
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the >end of that range they're just falling pellets. I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure where we should take that assertion. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 03:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441577 |
On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > where we should take that assertion. What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? Basically turn to dust?
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 08:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6225B45FBC09taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #441578 |
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in
news:d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com:
> On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote:
>> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and
>> >at the end of that range they're just falling pellets.
>>
>> I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to
>> figure where we should take that assertion.
>
> What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode?
> Basically turn to dust?
>
According to the environmental types, no, it never, ever, until the
head death of the universe, changes in any way whatsoever. It just
sits there and radiates Death Rays(tm), killing children and dogs,
forever.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-10 02:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8bmdnTDkbZz18cfKnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #441594 |
On 2016-06-09, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in >> What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? >> Basically turn to dust? >> > According to the environmental types, no, it never, ever, until the > head death of the universe, changes in any way whatsoever. It just > sits there and radiates Death Rays(tm), killing children and dogs, forever. Wikipedia notes that it's the highest-numbered _observed_-stable element. We think four of its isotopes could decay via alpha, but the shortest possible half-life among them is ten million times the current age of the universe. So in 300 years? Nothing much. Dave, though it probably gets lost track of along the way ps: "head death" is appropriate for a simulated universe running on someone's multidimensional hard disc-analogue -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-10 11:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA62375A1CDACBtaustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #441662 |
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8bmdnTDkbZz18cfKnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@earthlink.com:
> On 2016-06-09, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in
>>> What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode?
>>> Basically turn to dust?
>>>
>> According to the environmental types, no, it never, ever, until
>> the head death of the universe, changes in any way whatsoever.
>> It just sits there and radiates Death Rays(tm), killing
>> children and dogs, forever.
>
> Wikipedia notes that it's the highest-numbered _observed_-stable
> element. We think four of its isotopes could decay via alpha,
> but the shortest possible half-life among them is ten million
> times the current age of the universe.
>
> So in 300 years? Nothing much.
>
> Dave, though it probably gets lost track of along the way
Ignore the whooshing sound. It's not for you.
>
> ps: "head death" is appropriate for a simulated universe running
> on someone's multidimensional hard disc-analogue
I blame the lead poisoning. "Do you carry unleaded barbecues? Lead
makes the children's heads get big."
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 06:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8LFvG.1tnG@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441662 |
In article <8bmdnTDkbZz18cfKnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, David DeLaney <dbd@vic.com> wrote: >On 2016-06-09, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in >>> What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? >>> Basically turn to dust? >>> >> According to the environmental types, no, it never, ever, until the >> head death of the universe, changes in any way whatsoever. It just >> sits there and radiates Death Rays(tm), killing children and dogs, forever. > >Wikipedia notes that it's the highest-numbered _observed_-stable element. We >think four of its isotopes could decay via alpha, but the shortest possible >half-life among them is ten million times the current age of the universe. > >So in 300 years? Nothing much. There exists at least one early LSH story in which it is posited that the mechanism by which lead harms Daxamites is a form of radiation. During that time period, in DC comics, lead acts as a sort of magic anti-radiation metal: any amount of lead, however thin, counteracts any amount of radioactivity, however intense. It may be that DC Universe lead is in fact unstable, and emits an out-of-phase radiation wave that cancels out the normal radiation waves from such things as Kryptonite. -- David Goldfarb |"I want instant gratification -- and I'm goldfarbdj@gmail.com | willing to wait for it." goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu | -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8IoJL.p6y@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441578 |
In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the >> >end of that range they're just falling pellets. >> >> I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure >> where we should take that assertion. > >What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? >Basically turn to dust? I should think it depends on the environment. Lead holding the stones of Roman roads together lasted for centuries, till people dug it up for other purposes. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 11:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6fbe392b-57c6-456e-9421-6f472b2f1b68@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441616 |
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > >On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > >> >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > >> > >> I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > >> where we should take that assertion. > > > >What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > >Basically turn to dust? > > I should think it depends on the environment. Lead holding the > stones of Roman roads together lasted for centuries, till people > dug it up for other purposes. I typoed '300 yards' to '300 years' when describing the danger range of birdshot, and people have been running with the joke. Lead lasts very nicely, unless in an acid environment. pt
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 12:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b82caf6f-5430-42d0-bf34-1a13789eb6f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441621 |
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:49:49 PM UTC-4, Peter Trei wrote: > On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, > > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > > >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > > >> >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > >> > > >> I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > > >> where we should take that assertion. > > > > > >What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > > >Basically turn to dust? > > > > I should think it depends on the environment. Lead holding the > > stones of Roman roads together lasted for centuries, till people > > dug it up for other purposes. > > I typoed '300 yards' to '300 years' when describing the danger range > of birdshot, and people have been running with the joke. > > Lead lasts very nicely, unless in an acid environment. It lasts so well that, in the US, at least, hunters have been made to switch to nontoxic, usually steel, shot, since 1992. http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/hunting/2012/12/waterfowl-hunting-what-you-need-know-about-steel-shot I don't hunt, but I can well remember my friends who do bitching about the transition. Kevin R .
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 18:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <28606ef7-b6ad-4d02-b53f-8f7c6d7b5618@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441621 |
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote: > On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, > > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > > >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > > >> >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > >> > > >> I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > > >> where we should take that assertion. > > > > > >What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > > >Basically turn to dust? > > > > I should think it depends on the environment. Lead holding the > > stones of Roman roads together lasted for centuries, till people > > dug it up for other purposes. > > I typoed '300 yards' to '300 years' when describing the danger range > of birdshot, and people have been running with the joke. I know, but it's such a cool idea. There's a thread in another group "Brilliant Mistakes" about goofs that turn into moneymakers. > Lead lasts very nicely, unless in an acid environment. Hell I used to find native lead in Arizona. No way of telling how long it's been there. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-10 02:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8bmdnTPkbZxC8cfKnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #441632 |
On 2016-06-10, nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> Lead lasts very nicely, unless in an acid environment. > > Hell I used to find native lead in Arizona. No way of telling how long > it's been there. ...isotope ratios, actually. Dave, think about it -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-10 09:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8453ee64-bed1-4442-8557-21bcb97c9f24@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441663 |
On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 12:31:43 AM UTC-7, David DeLaney wrote: > On 2016-06-10, nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Lead lasts very nicely, unless in an acid environment. > > > > Hell I used to find native lead in Arizona. No way of telling how long > > it's been there. > > ...isotope ratios, actually. > > Dave, think about it Well yes, but difficult to determine naked-eye. Mark L. (my Geiger's not sayin') Fergerson
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 18:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <njd6p9$lo7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #441578 |
In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > > >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > > > I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > > where we should take that assertion. > > What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > Basically turn to dust? Depends *A LOT* on the specific environment it's in. If dry, it'll likely grow a layer of powdery pinkish-white, then sit there unchanging until disturbed. If submerged and undisturbed in fresh water, it'll be practically unchanged for years upon years, other than "dust" settling out of the water onto it. If the water is acidic, it will slowly leach away. It'll also depend on how much of a chunk you're talking about - A small piece, like #6 birdshot, will probably oxidize, disintegrate, or dissolve away, to be dispersed into unrecognizability ( <-- izzat a word? My spell-checker is flagging it, but offering no "correct" spelling) in the surroundings fairly quickly. A 10 pound brick will likely just grow the powdery coating and then sit there unchanging for years at a time. Too many possibilities to list, really. -- Brought to you by the letter Q and the number .357 Security provided by Horace S. & Dan W.
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 05:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <39aee4b5-4cfd-4512-9274-1bc5b0f80179@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441636 |
On Friday, 10 June 2016 02:57:00 UTC+1, Don Bruder wrote: > In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > > > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > > > >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > > > > > I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > > > where we should take that assertion. > > > > What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > > Basically turn to dust? > > Depends *A LOT* on the specific environment it's in. If dry, it'll > likely grow a layer of powdery pinkish-white, then sit there unchanging > until disturbed. If submerged and undisturbed in fresh water, it'll be > practically unchanged for years upon years, other than "dust" settling > out of the water onto it. If the water is acidic, it will slowly leach > away. It'll also depend on how much of a chunk you're talking about - A > small piece, like #6 birdshot, will probably oxidize, disintegrate, or > dissolve away, to be dispersed into unrecognizability ( <-- izzat a > word? My spell-checker is flagging it, but offering no "correct" > spelling) in the surroundings fairly quickly. A 10 pound brick will > likely just grow the powdery coating and then sit there unchanging for > years at a time. > > Too many possibilities to list, really. Obviously, lead just lying around in lumps is not when environmentalists get unhappy about it. It's when it's taken up by biology, with or without being acted on by chemistry first. Thus, the issue of lead in petrol, although... what, does it come out of the car as a gas? That doesn't seem right. But, anyway, bad.
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 07:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1a6df0a4-2ec9-4726-bf49-62669e969197@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #441744 |
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 8:58:28 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: > On Friday, 10 June 2016 02:57:00 UTC+1, Don Bruder wrote: > > In article <d7aa2ea4-311c-4fc9-ac04-9fcdf4538111@googlegroups.com>, > > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:14:50 UTC+1, Greg Goss wrote: > > > > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the > > > > >end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > > > > > > > I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > > > > where we should take that assertion. > > > > > > What happens to lead in 300 years? Does it corrode? > > > Basically turn to dust? > > > > Depends *A LOT* on the specific environment it's in. If dry, it'll > > likely grow a layer of powdery pinkish-white, then sit there unchanging > > until disturbed. If submerged and undisturbed in fresh water, it'll be > > practically unchanged for years upon years, other than "dust" settling > > out of the water onto it. If the water is acidic, it will slowly leach > > away. It'll also depend on how much of a chunk you're talking about - A > > small piece, like #6 birdshot, will probably oxidize, disintegrate, or > > dissolve away, to be dispersed into unrecognizability ( <-- izzat a > > word? My spell-checker is flagging it, but offering no "correct" > > spelling) in the surroundings fairly quickly. A 10 pound brick will > > likely just grow the powdery coating and then sit there unchanging for > > years at a time. > > > > Too many possibilities to list, really. > > Obviously, lead just lying around in lumps is not > when environmentalists get unhappy about it. It's > when it's taken up by biology, with or without > being acted on by chemistry first. > > Thus, the issue of lead in petrol, although... > what, does it come out of the car as a gas? > That doesn't seem right. But, anyway, bad. In DC Comics' 1988 miniseries. "Invasion!" the Daxamite forces were gujnegrq ol yrnq cnegvphyngr va gur ngzbfcurer, qrcbfvgrq gurer ol gur hfr bs yrnqrq iruvpyr shry. Probably wouldn't work in 2016. rot-13 URL uggcf://jjj.rcn.tbi/yrnq-nve-cbyyhgvba/onfvp-vasbezngvba-nobhg-yrnq-nve-cbyyhgvba#ubj Kevin R
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 07:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <-qWdne0tAtn3xsTKnZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #441577 |
On 2016-06-09, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote: > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>a shotgun. The range of birdshot is only about 300 years, and at the >>end of that range they're just falling pellets. > > I know that this is an SF group, but I'm trying and failing to figure > where we should take that assertion. Clearly this is in the protocols for shooting a phoenix. Dave, it is self-cleaning afterwards, i hear -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 13:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o8GFvF.so6@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #441395 |
In article <899ecee4-5c3a-4d81-9825-d1e2469fc6cd@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> 170 days to Thanksgiving >> http://www.gocomics.com/bc/2016/06/07 > >Maybe he's the progenitor of the wild turkey flocks around >here that wander across the roads without any regard for traffic. >It isn't legal to hunt them with a Jeep bumper, but one is sometimes >tempted.... We see wild, or at least, feral turkeys hanging around the Gill Tract, a couple acres of land in Berkeley that are practically the last remnant of the days when there was one University of California campus, and the Agriculture Department did experimental plantings there. They still do, but most of the agricultural research has gone to the UC Davis campus. As for Thanksgiving, we don't do much about it, except that my daughter's birthday falls on or near it. We tend to go to Disneyland to celebrate, when we can afford it. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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