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  Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 02:00 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2015-11-09 18:59 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:24 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:23 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 05:30 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-09 23:17 -0700
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 09:35 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 16:35 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 11:52 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 12:39 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 11:54 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 01:38 -0700
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:16 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:38 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 03:52 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 05:33 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:34 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-09 20:31 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 09:38 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 16:37 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-10 12:44 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-10 14:39 -0500
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:35 -0500
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 00:09 -0500
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 21:46 -0800
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 06:00 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2015-11-17 04:22 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:31 -0800
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2015-11-17 13:03 -0800
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-18 13:11 -0800
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-18 15:35 -0700
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:00 -0500
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 15:06 -0800
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-19 21:46 -0600
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-10 11:41 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:32 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-10 10:43 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 07:49 -0600
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 06:55 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 15:59 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 13:16 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 17:44 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 03:52 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-13 13:21 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 15:31 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-11 13:33 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:30 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 22:51 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 01:35 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-10 15:57 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 08:19 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 21:50 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 03:07 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 14:26 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-10 06:37 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:40 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2015-11-10 17:45 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF PeterM <petermeilinger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 15:58 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 06:54 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 10:37 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:23 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 11:15 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 16:44 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 19:59 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-10 14:43 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-10 22:08 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 06:16 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:25 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-12 21:26 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 15:59 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-11-10 23:20 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-10 18:11 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-10 21:59 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 07:52 -0600
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 05:53 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-11-11 15:41 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:15 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-11 16:49 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 19:34 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 09:33 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 09:51 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 23:46 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:32 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-11-27 21:58 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-28 09:31 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 10:52 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 19:38 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 11:52 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 17:47 -0500
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 15:15 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 11:14 -0500
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-12 16:55 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-12 09:18 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 09:40 -0800
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-12 17:49 +0000
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-12 12:37 -0700
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Erik Trulsson <erikt@Update.UU.SE> - 2015-11-16 13:40 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 11:46 -0700
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:32 -0800
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:54 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 13:25 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 07:24 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-12 09:02 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-12 17:51 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:46 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 05:01 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 17:36 -0600
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 19:59 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-13 13:44 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-14 06:25 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Stephen Allcroft <stephenallcroft@lycos.co.uk> - 2015-11-21 07:30 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-11-22 12:53 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> - 2015-11-10 16:36 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF banjo@dontspam.silent.com - 2015-11-10 17:33 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-12 14:44 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Tim McCaffrey <timcaffrey@aol.com> - 2015-11-10 10:25 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:49 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-11 01:01 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:02 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-10 21:15 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 21:36 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 21:40 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 16:33 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2015-11-10 17:51 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-12 13:43 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 16:03 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-16 14:57 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0800
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-16 12:51 -0500
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 14:51 -0500
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-16 21:09 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-17 08:41 -0500
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:19 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 15:57 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 20:59 -0800
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-17 08:47 -0500
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:43 -0800
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-11-18 11:38 +0000
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-18 06:55 -0500
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:18 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:59 -0800
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-16 22:15 -0800
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:29 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-16 15:36 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:42 -0800
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-16 21:13 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-16 13:54 -0800
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> - 2015-11-16 23:28 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-16 22:00 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-17 21:53 -0800
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-20 18:50 +0000
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 12:05 -0800
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 23:07 +0000
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 21:34 -0800
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-21 06:18 +0000
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:35 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 00:34 +0000
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 19:41 -0800
                                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 03:58 +0000
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-21 20:55 -0800
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 12:28 -0800
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 16:35 -0800
                                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-24 03:50 +0000
                                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 04:16 -0800
                                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-24 12:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-24 06:35 -0800
                                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 06:57 -0800
                                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-24 11:44 -0500
                                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-24 11:43 -0500
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2015-11-22 13:51 +1300
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 01:36 +0000
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-21 19:27 -0800
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-16 23:27 -0700
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 19:12 -0500
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 01:55 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 21:18 -0500
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 22:45 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 05:58 +0000
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-16 23:23 -0700
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 05:57 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-10 21:35 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-10 23:58 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:58 -0500
        Rolling Roads Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-11 01:24 -0700
          Re: Rolling Roads David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-11 01:34 -0700
            Re: Rolling Roads Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 07:09 -0800
              Re: Rolling Roads "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 18:40 -0500
                Re: Rolling Roads David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-11 18:28 -0700
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-11 03:40 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-11 14:20 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-11 09:31 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-11 15:56 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 11:17 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-11 07:11 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2015-11-10 17:42 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2015-11-10 20:23 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-11 06:46 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 03:13 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-11 09:23 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 15:40 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:40 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-12 21:11 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 23:55 -0500
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-12 22:02 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 14:59 +0000
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 08:17 -0800
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF John Savard <quadibloc@barney-mail.invalid> - 2015-11-13 16:27 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-13 14:14 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-13 21:45 -0700
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-14 06:08 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-16 18:18 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 01:56 +0000
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-18 19:55 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-18 20:55 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@erols.com> - 2015-11-18 23:48 +0000
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-18 20:23 -0500
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-11-19 01:35 +0000
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 03:28 +0000
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-11-19 14:45 +0000
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 10:01 -0500
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 07:19 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 15:54 +0000
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 16:56 +0000
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 10:55 -0500
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 18:34 +0000
                                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 10:50 -0800
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 19:21 +0000
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-20 05:11 -0800
                                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 15:00 +0000
                                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 14:08 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 03:21 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 15:34 +0000
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 16:25 +0000
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 17:32 +0000
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 18:03 +0000
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-22 13:21 -0500
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 21:33 +0000
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-22 19:25 -0500
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-23 01:15 +0000
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-23 14:31 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-24 00:05 +0000
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-24 02:24 -0600
                                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 04:39 -0800
                                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-24 07:51 -0500
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-22 10:41 -0800
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 21:16 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:03 -0500
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 15:22 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:32 -0500
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 20:56 +0000
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:19 -0500
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:14 -0800
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:49 -0800
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:28 -0700
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:30 -0500
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:31 -0700
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 21:37 +0000
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 16:50 -0500
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:53 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 21:56 +0000
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 18:17 -0500
                                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-19 18:43 -0800
                                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 22:24 -0600
                                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 22:31 -0600
                              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:38 -0700
                                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:59 -0800
                            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:51 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 21:46 +0000
                  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-11-19 03:55 +0000
                    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 05:36 +0000
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 06:53 +0000
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 02:37 -0700
                          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 11:36 +0000
                        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-20 03:08 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-19 05:05 -0800
                      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-19 08:16 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) - 2015-11-11 19:09 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2015-11-14 10:42 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 21:59 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-11-27 22:30 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-11-27 22:33 -0800

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#427077

In article <XnsA556BF55D9913mmikedacomcastnet@207.246.207.120>,
Michael Ikeda  <mmikeda@erols.com> wrote:
>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>news:ny13Gn.14tp@kithrup.com: 
>
>> In article <VJ43y.312202$wR.180020@fx43.am4>,
>> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
>>>news:nxxs2u.KHx@kithrup.com...
>>>>
>>>> OTOH I watched the latest Doctor Who, "Sleep No More," which
>>>> was fairly horrorific, but well done ... it doesn't even end
>>>> with the Doctor fixing everything; it ends with the end
>>>> credits.  It's a nightmare, and then you wake up.
>>>
>>>Just so you know? All this season are 2 parters. There's more to
>>>come. 
>> 
>> Oh, interesting.  That was my impression, but when "SNM" ended
>> with no "Next," nothing but the credits, I wondered.
>
>I think "Sleep No More" is an exception.

Certainly the total number of episodes is even, and the final
pair, "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent," are clearly a pair.  

If next Saturday's episode, "Face the Raven," turns out to be the
other half of "SNM", then everything would be tidy.  I observe
that they have the same director but different writers.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427484

"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
news:ny13Gn.14tp@kithrup.com...
> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message
>>> OTOH I watched the latest Doctor Who, "Sleep No More," which was
>>> fairly horrorific, but well done ... it doesn't even end with the
>>> Doctor fixing everything; it ends with the end credits.  It's a
>>> nightmare, and then you wake up.
>>
>>Just so you know? All this season are 2 parters. There's more to come.
>
> Oh, interesting.  That was my impression, but when "SNM" ended
> with no "Next," nothing but the credits, I wondered.
>
> BTW, it has been leaked that the Christmas special this year will
> see the (undoubtedly temporary) return of River Song.

Yeah, I was aware of this a while back. It also appears I was wrong about 
Sleep No More. It wasn't a 2 parter. Which means its ending was VERY weird. 
I apologise for giving you duff gen, my bad. This week allegedly wasn't a 2 
parter either.
We had been told (wrongly now, it seems) that this entire season was 2 
parters. 

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#427489

In article <Ohl4y.538395$Nk3.518251@fx34.am4>,
Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
>news:ny13Gn.14tp@kithrup.com...
>> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message
>>>> OTOH I watched the latest Doctor Who, "Sleep No More," which was
>>>> fairly horrorific, but well done ... it doesn't even end with the
>>>> Doctor fixing everything; it ends with the end credits.  It's a
>>>> nightmare, and then you wake up.
>>>
>>>Just so you know? All this season are 2 parters. There's more to come.
>>
>> Oh, interesting.  That was my impression, but when "SNM" ended
>> with no "Next," nothing but the credits, I wondered.
>>
>> BTW, it has been leaked that the Christmas special this year will
>> see the (undoubtedly temporary) return of River Song.
>
>Yeah, I was aware of this a while back. It also appears I was wrong about 
>Sleep No More. It wasn't a 2 parter. Which means its ending was VERY weird. 
>I apologise for giving you duff gen, my bad. This week allegedly wasn't a 2 
>parter either.
>We had been told (wrongly now, it seems) that this entire season was 2 
>parters. 

Not a problem.  "SNM" *is* a nightmare, from which one eventually
wakes up.  It's an interesting departure from the standard Dr.
Who mindset, though -- even without the found-footage business --
and I can only assume Mark Gatiss had enough street cred to get
the BBC to show it.

Wikipedia says (insert standard grain of salt) that "SNM" was a
single and that the last three of the season are a three-parter.

I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
America on *Sunday* evening. 

Which means that sometime today I'll be able to look up all the
UKian reviews of "Raven" and find out what it's about before I
see it.  All these reviews post huge SPOILER WARNINGS at the
beginning, but since I like spoilers .....  :)

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427492

"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
news:ny85Lz.y86@kithrup.com...
> I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
> America on *Sunday* evening.
>
> Which means that sometime today I'll be able to look up all the
> UKian reviews of "Raven" and find out what it's about before I
> see it.  All these reviews post huge SPOILER WARNINGS at the
> beginning, but since I like spoilers .....  :)

I assume you already know the major plot point of "Raven".
Sadly, as a viewer you are led to it by your nose with the writer assuming 
you're a complete idiot who won't see it coming when it happens so they 
Chekov's gun it to you 30 mins before the fact.

Saying that, IMHO it was a terrible ending leaving at least 2 characters 
(The Doctor not included) to unknown fates where we'd already been given a 
ton of exposition about what that potential fate for at least one of them 
might be.

(I'm deliberately being vague here as not to spoiler. You can come back 
after you've seen the episode and it should be a lot clearer to you, knowing 
what you know.) 

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#427494

In article <x0n4y.402903$eu4.390534@fx44.am4>,
Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
>news:ny85Lz.y86@kithrup.com...
>> I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>> America on *Sunday* evening.
>>
>> Which means that sometime today I'll be able to look up all the
>> UKian reviews of "Raven" and find out what it's about before I
>> see it.  All these reviews post huge SPOILER WARNINGS at the
>> beginning, but since I like spoilers .....  :)
>
>I assume you already know the major plot point of "Raven".

No, actually, they didn't say much as to the actual (as
distinguished from hinted) plot.  Does she or doesn't she (as the
hair-coloring ads used to say)?

>Sadly, as a viewer you are led to it by your nose with the writer assuming 
>you're a complete idiot who won't see it coming when it happens so they 
>Chekov's gun it to you 30 mins before the fact.
>
>Saying that, IMHO it was a terrible ending leaving at least 2 characters 
>(The Doctor not included) to unknown fates where we'd already been given a 
>ton of exposition about what that potential fate for at least one of them 
>might be.

Well, it's only Act One.  If this three-act drama is properly
constructed (and Moffat has shown himself to be pretty good at
story arcs), the real gun won't go off till Act Three.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427496

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>America on *Sunday* evening. 

Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.





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#427516

In article <gr145bhloe6j7q9qnlrlcfqu9rl0in5262@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>>America on *Sunday* evening. 
>
>Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.

Well, through what site did you get it?  I see it on my son-in-law's
Xfinity channel.

-- 
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Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427529

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:33:24 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <gr145bhloe6j7q9qnlrlcfqu9rl0in5262@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>>Heydt) wrote:
>>
>>>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>>>America on *Sunday* evening. 
>>
>>Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.
>
>Well, through what site did you get it?  I see it on my son-in-law's
>Xfinity channel.

Site?  We got it from our Verizon FiOS cable service.





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#427540

In article <m7n45b5l7ii6oj8h5qum0pcd8qhbrduqk5@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:33:24 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>>In article <gr145bhloe6j7q9qnlrlcfqu9rl0in5262@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>>>Heydt) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>>>>America on *Sunday* evening. 
>>>
>>>Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.
>>
>>Well, through what site did you get it?  I see it on my son-in-law's
>>Xfinity channel.
>
>Site?  We got it from our Verizon FiOS cable service.

Comcast. 

-- 
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Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427589

On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:30:03 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <m7n45b5l7ii6oj8h5qum0pcd8qhbrduqk5@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
> Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:33:24 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
> >Heydt) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <gr145bhloe6j7q9qnlrlcfqu9rl0in5262@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
> >>Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> >>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
> >>>Heydt) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
> >>>>America on *Sunday* evening. 
> >>>
> >>>Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.
> >>
> >>Well, through what site did you get it?  I see it on my son-in-law's
> >>Xfinity channel.
> >
> >Site?  We got it from our Verizon FiOS cable service.
> 
> Comcast

The BBC America East Coast cable TV feed is 9 pm Eastern, 8 pm Central.
Zap2it.com shows the 9 PST for the new episode in Comcast's grid for
Saturday the 28th, using a Vallejo CA zip code.  "Face The Raven"
will repeat before this Saturday's new ep, at 8 Pacific. 

Now, perhaps Dorothy's cable package doesn't include BBCA, and she watches
it on demand.  TVOD sometimes has a lag to allow the cable channel to
rent as many real-time eyeballs for the ads as possible.

Kevin R

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#427595

In article <70f764aa-7a67-4919-b40e-38eb213385bc@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:30:03 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article
><m7n45b5l7ii6oj8h5qum0pcd8qhbrduqk5@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>> >On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:33:24 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>> >Heydt) wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article
><gr145bhloe6j7q9qnlrlcfqu9rl0in5262@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>> >>Lawrence Watt-Evans  <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>> >>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>> >>>Heydt) wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
>> >>>>America on *Sunday* evening. 
>> >>>
>> >>>Really?  We got it on BBC America Saturday here in the DC area.  Odd.
>> >>
>> >>Well, through what site did you get it?  I see it on my son-in-law's
>> >>Xfinity channel.
>> >
>> >Site?  We got it from our Verizon FiOS cable service.
>> 
>> Comcast
>
>The BBC America East Coast cable TV feed is 9 pm Eastern, 8 pm Central.
>Zap2it.com shows the 9 PST for the new episode in Comcast's grid for
>Saturday the 28th, using a Vallejo CA zip code.  "Face The Raven"
>will repeat before this Saturday's new ep, at 8 Pacific. 
>
>Now, perhaps Dorothy's cable package doesn't include BBCA, and she watches
>it on demand.  TVOD sometimes has a lag to allow the cable channel to
>rent as many real-time eyeballs for the ads as possible.

Maybe.

Typically, I see the listing for the new episode some 24 hours
after it aired in the UK.

I've tried off and on to get onto the Xfinity site today, and
until now (4 PM PDT) I got either an error message referencing
some IP I never heard of, or a list of episodes not including the
latest.  I just took another look, and "Face the Raven" is now
up.  I may get a chance to look at it tonight (we're in a frenzy
of packing for a trip to Disneyland during the school holidays --
WITHOUT telling the seven-year-old we're going till tomorrow
morning).  It feels like D-day writ small.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#427622

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

> I may get a chance to look at it tonight (we're in a frenzy
> of packing for a trip to Disneyland during the school holidays --
> WITHOUT telling the seven-year-old we're going till tomorrow
> morning).  It feels like D-day writ small.
> 

A complete tangent, but now I really want to see a "Who Framed
Roger Rabbit" version of "Saving Private Ryan."

-- 
Leif Roar Moldskred

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#427628

On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 3:24:33 AM UTC-5, leif...@dimnakorr.com wrote:
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> 
> > I may get a chance to look at it tonight (we're in a frenzy
> > of packing for a trip to Disneyland during the school holidays --
> > WITHOUT telling the seven-year-old we're going till tomorrow
> > morning).  It feels like D-day writ small.
> > 
> 
> A complete tangent, but now I really want to see a "Who Framed
> Roger Rabbit" version of "Saving Private Ryan."


There were "Donald Duck" tanks involved.

http://www.dday-overlord.com/eng/duplex_drive_tank.htm

Kevin R

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#427632

On 11/24/15 7:39 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 3:24:33 AM UTC-5, leif...@dimnakorr.com wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I may get a chance to look at it tonight (we're in a frenzy
>>> of packing for a trip to Disneyland during the school holidays --
>>> WITHOUT telling the seven-year-old we're going till tomorrow
>>> morning).  It feels like D-day writ small.
>>>
>>
>> A complete tangent, but now I really want to see a "Who Framed
>> Roger Rabbit" version of "Saving Private Ryan."
>
>
> There were "Donald Duck" tanks involved.
>
> http://www.dday-overlord.com/eng/duplex_drive_tank.htm
>
> Kevin R
>

	Which brings to mind the very dramatic and serious JRPG videogame 
series "Kingdom Hearts", done by the same company that did the Final 
Fantasy series and Chrono Trigger... and set in a universe with the 
Disney characters as major players, including "King Mickey".

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#427498

On Sunday, 22 November 2015 16:30:04 UTC, Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:
> In article <Ohl4y.538395$Nk3.518251@fx34.am4>,
> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote in message 
> >> BTW, it has been leaked 
> >
> >Yeah, I was aware of this a while back. It also appears I was wrong about 
> >Sleep No More. It wasn't a 2 parter. Which means its ending was VERY weird. 
> >I apologise for giving you duff gen, my bad. This week allegedly wasn't a 2 
> >parter either.
> >We had been told (wrongly now, it seems) that this entire season was 2 
> >parters. 
> 
> Not a problem.  "SNM" *is* a nightmare, from which one eventually
> wakes up.  It's an interesting departure from the standard Dr.
> Who mindset, though -- even without the found-footage business --
> and I can only assume Mark Gatiss had enough street cred to get
> the BBC to show it.
> 
> Wikipedia says (insert standard grain of salt) that "SNM" was a
> single and that the last three of the season are a three-parter.
> 
> I have not yet seen "Face the Raven"; it becomes available on BBC
> America on *Sunday* evening. 

I'm still expecting a follow-up to "Sleep No More"
in all this - but I may have misunderstood it.

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#427511

"Robert Carnegie" <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in message 
news:db5f2a6f-3259-4a43-8eaa->
> I'm still expecting a follow-up to "Sleep No More"
> in all this - but I may have misunderstood it.

That was me confusing the issue. It was a 1 parter only.
I was given duff gen which I passed on in good faith believing it accurate. 
Sorry. 

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#427159

In article <VJ43y.312202$wR.180020@fx43.am4>,
"Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> said:

> "Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote
>
>> OTOH I watched the latest Doctor Who, "Sleep No More," which was
>> fairly horrorific, but well done ... it doesn't even end with the
>> Doctor fixing everything; it ends with the end credits.  It's a
>> nightmare, and then you wake up.
>
> Just so you know? All this season are 2 parters. There's more to
> come.

But aren't there 13 episodes per season?

-- wds

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#427161

On 19 Nov 2015 15:03:19 -0500, wdstarr@panix.com (William December
Starr) wrote:

>In article <VJ43y.312202$wR.180020@fx43.am4>,
>"Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> said:
>
>> "Dorothy J Heydt" <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote
>>
>>> OTOH I watched the latest Doctor Who, "Sleep No More," which was
>>> fairly horrorific, but well done ... it doesn't even end with the
>>> Doctor fixing everything; it ends with the end credits.  It's a
>>> nightmare, and then you wake up.
>>
>> Just so you know? All this season are 2 parters. There's more to
>> come.
>
>But aren't there 13 episodes per season?

Not in England.  A series (they use "series" where we would use
"season") can be anywhere from three episodes to thirty or so.

"Sherlock," for example, does three-episode series.

"Doctor Who" has twelve episodes in the current series.  Unless you
count the Christmas special (which the BBC does not).

Incidentally, even in the U.S. seasons vary in length -- "Minority
Report" is only going to run ten episodes.  (It was originally set for
thirteen, but they cut it to ten when they got the early ratings.)

I'm old enough to remember (just barely) when U.S. TV shows had
thirty-nine episodes per season.  Then it dropped to twenty-six in one
fell swoop, and has been inching down ever since.




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#427163

In article <hebs4b106sfeecepr723ptr7uj68306gki@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:

> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
>> But aren't there 13 episodes per season?
>
> Not in England.  A series (they use "series" where we would use
> "season") can be anywhere from three episodes to thirty or so.
>
> "Sherlock," for example, does three-episode series.
>
> "Doctor Who" has twelve episodes in the current series.  Unless
> you count the Christmas special (which the BBC does not).

I was referring specifically to modern-day Doctor Who; I realize
now that I got "thirteen" by including the Christmas special in the
count which, as you note, they don't.

> Incidentally, even in the U.S. seasons vary in length -- "Minority
> Report" is only going to run ten episodes.  (It was originally set
> for thirteen, but they cut it to ten when they got the early
> ratings.)

Article in today's NYTimes about that, among other things.
Apparently the networks are now much less trigger-happy on the
cancellation button than they were a few years ago, prefering to
first cut back episode orders but keep on giving failing shows a
longer chance to catch on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/19/business/media/with-tv-viewing-changing-networks-take-longer-to-drop-shows.html?ref=television

> I'm old enough to remember (just barely) when U.S. TV shows had
> thirty-nine episodes per season.  Then it dropped to twenty-six in
> one fell swoop, and has been inching down ever since.

Me too.  "What's a 'summer replacement show,' Grandpa?"

-- wds

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#427166

William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <hebs4b106sfeecepr723ptr7uj68306gki@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
> Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:
> 
>> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>> 
>>> But aren't there 13 episodes per season?
>> 
>> Not in England.  A series (they use "series" where we would use
>> "season") can be anywhere from three episodes to thirty or so.
>> 
>> "Sherlock," for example, does three-episode series.
>> 
>> "Doctor Who" has twelve episodes in the current series.  Unless
>> you count the Christmas special (which the BBC does not).
> 
> I was referring specifically to modern-day Doctor Who; I realize
> now that I got "thirteen" by including the Christmas special in the
> count which, as you note, they don't.
> 

Since the 2005 revival Doctor Who HAS had thirteen episodes per season,
plus a Christmas special. David Tennant's era closed with a further four
"specials" and there was an additional special for the 50th anniversary of
the show's launch, in 2013.

But last year, and this, the season order was reduced by an episode to
twelve. Two of last year's episodes did however have an extended running
time of about an hour (the BBC has no ad breaks). Don't think they're doing
that this year.

Next season's order is also for 12 episodes and a Christmas special, but
various things said seem to imply it will be delivered in two six-episode
runs, one in 2016 and one in 2017.

The same is also being done at present with Red Dwarf: 12 episodes are
being produced back-to-back but six will be delivered as Red Dwarf XI next
year with the other six as Red Dwarf XII in 2017.

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important."

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