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  scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-09 15:40 -0700
    Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-09 16:36 -0700
    Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-09 17:47 -0700
      Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-09-10 02:37 +0000
        Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-10 01:02 -0700
        Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-09-10 17:53 +0000
          Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-09-10 19:50 +0000
            Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-10 13:16 -0700
            Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-10 13:28 -0700
    Re: scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-10 00:43 -0700

#422353 — scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/


I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...

but maybe I got it backwards.

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#422357

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:55F0B557.55D0@ix.netcom.com...

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/


I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...

but maybe I got it backwards.


*** our noTroll got all excited when he heard about this ....
alas ... he thought it said a 30000-year-old-giant-virgin.
In Missoura, that train leaves the Station when the first
cousin turns 7 and the Troll clan gets their grubby paws
on her. 

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#422359

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/

> I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...

> but maybe I got it backwards.

Reading the article, the idea is:

Viruses like this are going to be awakened anyways by oil companies exploring 
the area. They won't take the precautions necessary to prevent the viruses 
getting loose!

So before they start, we had better wake up some of these viruses now, in a 
sealed lab where they can't get out, to study them - so that we will understand 
them well, so that if the oil exploration (which is hard to stop, the oil 
companies have lots of money to bribe politicians) does let an ancient virus 
loose... we will have a good enough understanding of that kind of virus to be 
able to quickly make a vaccine for it!

See - they are trying to stop disease, not make it!

John Savard

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#422366

In article <f9728a68-9680-4e4d-baa6-fe0090d3ad25@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
>> http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/
>
>> I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...
>
>> but maybe I got it backwards.
>
>Reading the article, the idea is:
>
>Viruses like this are going to be awakened anyways by oil companies exploring 
>the area. They won't take the precautions necessary to prevent the viruses 
>getting loose!
>
>So before they start, we had better wake up some of these viruses now, in a 
>sealed lab where they can't get out, to study them - so that we will understand 
>them well, so that if the oil exploration (which is hard to stop, the oil 
>companies have lots of money to bribe politicians) does let an ancient virus 
>loose... we will have a good enough understanding of that kind of virus to be 
>able to quickly make a vaccine for it!
>
>See - they are trying to stop disease, not make it!

ObSF: _Doomsday Book._

(I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
said, Probably.)

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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#422379

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> 
> In article <f9728a68-9680-4e4d-baa6-fe0090d3ad25@googlegroups.com>,
> Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/
> >
> >> I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...
> >
> >> but maybe I got it backwards.
> >
> >Reading the article, the idea is:
> >
> >Viruses like this are going to be awakened anyways by oil companies exploring
> >the area. They won't take the precautions necessary to prevent the viruses
> >getting loose!
> >
> >So before they start, we had better wake up some of these viruses now, in a
> >sealed lab where they can't get out, to study them - so that we will understand
> >them well, so that if the oil exploration (which is hard to stop, the oil
> >companies have lots of money to bribe politicians) does let an ancient virus
> >loose... we will have a good enough understanding of that kind of virus to be
> >able to quickly make a vaccine for it!
> >
> >See - they are trying to stop disease, not make it!
> 
> ObSF: _Doomsday Book._
> 
> (I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
> asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
> till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
> said, Probably.)


The Earth is a virus.

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#422411

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <f9728a68-9680-4e4d-baa6-fe0090d3ad25@googlegroups.com>,
> Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/
>>
>>> I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...
>>
>>> but maybe I got it backwards.
>>
>>Reading the article, the idea is:
>>
>>Viruses like this are going to be awakened anyways by oil companies exploring
>>the area. They won't take the precautions necessary to prevent the viruses
>>getting loose!
>>
>>So before they start, we had better wake up some of these viruses now, in a
>>sealed lab where they can't get out, to study them - so that we will understand
>>them well, so that if the oil exploration (which is hard to stop, the oil
>>companies have lots of money to bribe politicians) does let an ancient virus
>>loose... we will have a good enough understanding of that kind of virus to be
>>able to quickly make a vaccine for it!
>>
>>See - they are trying to stop disease, not make it!
>
> ObSF: _Doomsday Book._
>
> (I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
> asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
> till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
> said, Probably.)

Great _Doomsday_ tie-in, Dorothy! And thank you for the pertinent
information about dormant viruses.

Starmaker, you sometimes mention the "Andromeda Strain" movie. There's
another movie about pathogens named "The Navigator." In the movie a
group of people time travel to the future to find a way to keep Black
Death out of their village in the distant past.

AFAIK Prince Philip wants to be reincarnated as a killer virus so that
he can depopulate the earth. God hating, misanthropic Atheists may be
tempted to say "Amen!" (Except they'd have to wash out their mouths 
with sulfur afterword.)

--
 ,-.                              There was a young lady named Bright
 \_/                              Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)<   Don Kuenz KB7RPU            She set out one day
 / \                                 In a relative way
 `-'                              And returned on the previous night.

What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.

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#422433

In article <20150910a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>
>> ObSF: _Doomsday Book._
>>
>> (I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
>> asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
>> till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
>> said, Probably.)
>
>Great _Doomsday_ tie-in, Dorothy! And thank you for the pertinent
>information about dormant viruses.
>
>Starmaker, you sometimes mention the "Andromeda Strain" movie. There's
>another movie about pathogens named "The Navigator." In the movie a
>group of people time travel to the future to find a way to keep Black
>Death out of their village in the distant past.

Wait a minute ... people in the fourteenth century time travel?
Really??  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you?
>
>AFAIK Prince Philip wants to be reincarnated as a killer virus so that
>he can depopulate the earth. 

Um ... where did you read that interesting tidbit?

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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#422439

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 4:00:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <20150910a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >
> >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ObSF: _Doomsday Book._
> >>
> >> (I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
> >> asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
> >> till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
> >> said, Probably.)
> >
> >Great _Doomsday_ tie-in, Dorothy! And thank you for the pertinent
> >information about dormant viruses.
> >
> >Starmaker, you sometimes mention the "Andromeda Strain" movie. There's
> >another movie about pathogens named "The Navigator." In the movie a
> >group of people time travel to the future to find a way to keep Black
> >Death out of their village in the distant past.
> 
> Wait a minute ... people in the fourteenth century time travel?
> Really??  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you?

It's a fantasy. To say the travel mechanism is unique is an understatement.

pt

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#422442

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 4:00:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <20150910a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >
> >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ObSF: _Doomsday Book._
> >>
> >> (I was working for a molecular biologist when that came out, so I
> >> asked him, Could a virus lie dormant in fourteenth-century ruins
> >> till the twenty-first century and still be infectious?  And he
> >> said, Probably.)
> >
> >Great _Doomsday_ tie-in, Dorothy! And thank you for the pertinent
> >information about dormant viruses.
> >
> >Starmaker, you sometimes mention the "Andromeda Strain" movie. There's
> >another movie about pathogens named "The Navigator." In the movie a
> >group of people time travel to the future to find a way to keep Black
> >Death out of their village in the distant past.
> 
> Wait a minute ... people in the fourteenth century time travel?
> Really??  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you?
> >
> >AFAIK Prince Philip wants to be reincarnated as a killer virus so that
> >he can depopulate the earth. 
> 
> Um ... where did you read that interesting tidbit?

This site has opinions, but the quote seems fairly widely reported...

From http://www.propagandamatrix.com/prince.html: 

Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
<quote>
I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose 
species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. 
What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population 
explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am 
tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus. 
</quote>

pt

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#422378

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> http://www.cnet.com/au/news/scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus/
> 
> I always thought it was their goal to get rid of viruses...
> 
> but maybe I got it backwards.



Maybe there are two types of 'people' in the 'scientific community'...

the ones that fight viruses and 
the ones that make viruses.


Like you have a 'group of people' who fight computer viruses and..

you have people in Israel who make computer viruses.


The Good guys, and the Bad guys.



So, those scientists-waking-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus
must be the bad guys.

Shouldn't we be gettin rid of the Bad guys? 


Wasn't it scientist who created the Aids virus? (miximg monkey blood with vacines in africa)



Now yous want to wake-up-30000-year-old-giant-virus????




vi·rus
'vir?s/
noun
noun: virus; plural noun: viruses; noun: computer virus; plural noun: computer viruses

    1.
    an infective agent that typically consists of a nucleic acid molecule in a protein coat, 
is too small to be seen by light microscopy, and is able to multiply only within the... living cells of a host.

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