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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-07-23 12:11 -0700
Last post2015-07-24 04:25 -0400
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-23 12:11 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-23 18:08 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-23 20:17 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 00:13 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:53 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 11:57 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 16:58 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 18:13 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:22 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-24 18:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 00:20 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 06:42 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:03 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:06 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 11:03 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-28 18:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-28 17:25 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-26 03:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:09 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-27 04:23 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-29 03:55 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:08 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:18 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-03 15:51 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-03 20:30 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-04 19:35 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-11 14:10 -0600
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-07 19:52 -0600
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-07 20:17 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-06 06:41 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-07 12:39 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-07 20:11 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-08 08:12 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-08 09:30 -0600
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-08 09:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Anthony Frost <Vulch@vulch.org> - 2015-08-09 10:48 +0100
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 11:32 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 12:44 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:03 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-08 16:49 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-08 19:36 -0600
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-09 01:49 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-10 01:57 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-10 07:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-09 07:56 -0600
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 13:08 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-04 14:48 -0600
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 13:59 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 14:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-04 15:35 -0600
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-04 15:39 -0600
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-29 11:15 -0600
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-29 13:56 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-29 18:59 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-30 06:43 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:11 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-30 11:38 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:03 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-31 04:14 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:34 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:19 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-31 12:06 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 21:52 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:39 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-07-31 21:34 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2015-08-02 14:18 +1000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:38 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:10 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 11:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:27 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-25 10:32 +0100
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 09:07 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 10:09 +0100
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:11 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:08 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:11 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 06:36 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-25 11:31 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:13 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:45 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:23 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:19 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:13 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:10 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-26 15:19 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:29 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:14 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-07-26 22:45 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-26 23:03 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-27 18:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:39 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-24 04:25 -0400

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#419399

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
Message-ID<kcfbsatfn54r0icl92bs23a0c8au0bokq3@4ax.com>
In reply to#419355
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>> >>> etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>> >
>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>> connected to it?
>>>> 
>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>
>>>
>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>
>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>
>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>

Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
changes it desired.

It even decided what was included in it's mythology and what was not.
Making everything fit was an obvious goal.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419439

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
Message-ID<81icsahv5n14qkpg5uqlupslcbmari6p8c@4ax.com>
In reply to#419399
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:31:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>>> connected to it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>>
>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>
>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.

>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>changes it desired.

For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.

>It even decided what was included in it's mythology and what was not.
>Making everything fit was an obvious goal.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
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#419499

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
Message-ID<8i5esahgll1hjrsvlcc5ubbdc6t9jf0sus@4ax.com>
In reply to#419439
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:20:00 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<81icsahv5n14qkpg5uqlupslcbmari6p8c@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:31:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>>>> connected to it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>>>
>>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>>
>>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>
>>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>>changes it desired.
>
>For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.

For the purpose of power and control.  The same purpose that supports
it's existence today.

>
>>It even decided what was included in it's mythology and what was not.
>>Making everything fit was an obvious goal.
>


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419510

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
Message-ID<bvpesa9vkpdqnu3j4eumn8ps0tcvt7chne@4ax.com>
In reply to#419499
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 05:00:05 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:20:00 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><81icsahv5n14qkpg5uqlupslcbmari6p8c@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:31:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>>>>> connected to it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>>>
>>>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>>
>>>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>>>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>>>changes it desired.
>>
>>For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.
>
>For the purpose of power and control.  The same purpose that supports
>it's existence today.

Spiritual only.

>>>It even decided what was included in it's mythology and what was not.
>>>Making everything fit was an obvious goal.
>>

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#419564

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
Message-ID<jargsalh8udf76kmua1sl1u1hpj4qvt591@4ax.com>
In reply to#419510
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:47:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<bvpesa9vkpdqnu3j4eumn8ps0tcvt7chne@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 05:00:05 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:20:00 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><81icsahv5n14qkpg5uqlupslcbmari6p8c@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:31:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>>>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>>>>>> connected to it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>>>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>>>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>>>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>>>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>>>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>>>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>>>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>>>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>>>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>>>>
>>>>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>>>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>>>
>>>>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>>>>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>>>>changes it desired.
>>>
>>>For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.
>>
>>For the purpose of power and control.  The same purpose that supports
>>it's existence today.
>
>Spiritual only.

Everything.

>
>>>>It even decided what was included in it's mythology and what was not.
>>>>Making everything fit was an obvious goal.
>>>
>


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419698

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
Message-ID<qndksa9qm4b4fk86caba8vrvivib0o7q9p@4ax.com>
In reply to#419564
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:22:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:47:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><bvpesa9vkpdqnu3j4eumn8ps0tcvt7chne@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 05:00:05 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:20:00 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><81icsahv5n14qkpg5uqlupslcbmari6p8c@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:31:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><84aasa1s56j3db5ejho251a783s5ueood4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:42:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>>>>>>>>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>>>>>>>>> connected to it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>>>>>>>>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>>>>>>>>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>>>>>>>>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>>>>>>>>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>>>>>>>>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>>>>>>>>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>>>>>>>>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>>>>>>>>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>>>>>>>>extinct at this day.” 
>>>>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>>>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>>>>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>>>>>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>>>>>changes it desired.
>>>>
>>>>For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.
>>>
>>>For the purpose of power and control.  The same purpose that supports
>>>it's existence today.
>>
>>Spiritual only.
>
>Everything.

Spiritual.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#419798

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
Message-ID<ckslsal6babqa2h16upb7a0jbpjumqpl6f@4ax.com>
In reply to#419698
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:55:32 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<qndksa9qm4b4fk86caba8vrvivib0o7q9p@4ax.com> wrote:



>>>>>>>>It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>>>>>>>>ago to fit the necessary pattern.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If that were true, the steady growth of Christianity for 2000 years would have
>>>>>>>erupted in war over those that tried to change what Jesus said and did.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nonsense.  For most of that time there was one single organization
>>>>>>that had total control over the entire subject and could make whatever
>>>>>>changes it desired.
>>>>>
>>>>>For what purpose.  The value is spiritual, not physical.
>>>>
>>>>For the purpose of power and control.  The same purpose that supports
>>>>it's existence today.
>>>
>>>Spiritual only.
>>
>>Everything.
>
>Spiritual.
>

Everything.   The first thought control and the first political
organization.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#418972

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
Message-ID<ca01sad15ldn9sbv9k9foe8b4geuuj9p3q@4ax.com>
In reply to#418869
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<2rnvral9oac39a445m9eejbogajcqahl3q@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:04:31 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>>
>>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>>
>>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>>
>>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>>soul.
>>
>>Prove a soul exists.
>
>Everybody has one.

Avoidance noted.  Again.

>
>>>  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.
>>Prove that.
>
>Its what makes mankind to be mankind.

Meaningless.  What evidence supports it's existence.

>
>
>>>  Does/can/will
>>>God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
>>>that.
>>You seem to have an answer for everything else.  Why not lie about
>>that too?
>
>Never do I lie on the ng.

You lie in every post.  You constantly make assertions you cannot
support.

>
>>>However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>>>cross. 
>>Prove such a person ever existed, then prove that event occurred.
>
>Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>etc. 

Not an answer.  Exactly what other sources support the events and
people outlined in your bible that are not derived from that document.

How many thousands of sources would you like to support the
Revolutionary War?  Direct, personal accounts actually written at the
time by people who were actually involved and whose involvement was
documented by other unrelated sources?  In both the US and in England
and France?

That is one hell of a difference.  The difference between fact and
myth.

But when have you ever cared about facts?


>
>>>I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>>way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>
>>Prove anything was ever 'presented' to anyone, and I do not accept or
>>agree with anything you say.
>
>That's to be discussed between you and God at the moment you die.
>

Or not.  Your lack of proof is again noted.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419050

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
Message-ID<9j62sap43a2r5b3j8qv8c979k1ai0ncpf2@4ax.com>
In reply to#418972
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><2rnvral9oac39a445m9eejbogajcqahl3q@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:04:31 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>>>
>>>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>>>
>>>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>>>soul.
>>>
>>>Prove a soul exists.
>>
>>Everybody has one.
>
>Avoidance noted.  Again.
>
>>
>>>>  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.
>>>Prove that.
>>
>>Its what makes mankind to be mankind.
>
>Meaningless.  What evidence supports it's existence.

The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
totally over your head.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
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#419051

Frompetertrei@gmail.com
Date2015-08-04 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<484ec2b8-910a-4c04-be56-de90e3a21a9d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#419050
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:03:30 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> >alt.atheism with message-id
> ><2rnvral9oac39a445m9eejbogajcqahl3q@4ax.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:04:31 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> >>>alt.atheism with message-id
> >>><vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> >>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> >>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I am the only one that does.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
> >>>>
> >>>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
> >>>>
> >>>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
> >>>>soul.
> >>>
> >>>Prove a soul exists.
> >>
> >>Everybody has one.
> >
> >Avoidance noted.  Again.
> >
> >>
> >>>>  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.
> >>>Prove that.
> >>
> >>Its what makes mankind to be mankind.
> >
> >Meaningless.  What evidence supports it's existence.
> 
> The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
> totally over your head.

The arguments you are giving are convincing only to those who *already*
believe. If your goal is to convert non-believers, you're doing it wrong,
and should try other arguments.

pt

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#419057

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2015-08-04 14:48 -0600
Message-ID<d2cmorFgnn7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#419051
petertrei@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>> >Meaningless.  What evidence supports [its] existence[?]
>> 
>> The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
>> totally over your head.
>
>The arguments you are giving are convincing only to those who *already*
>believe. If your goal is to convert non-believers, you're doing it wrong,
>and should try other arguments.

I believe that the opening chapters of Luke (which leads into Acts)
are phrased as a letter from a neutral party to a believer who wanted
stuff investigated.

If your material converts neutral people into believers, then any
material created by a neutral party becomes insider documents.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#419062

Frompetertrei@gmail.com
Date2015-08-04 13:59 -0700
Message-ID<f01bc968-5124-41ce-8b7f-c6c9ff685909@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#419057
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:48:31 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
> petertrei@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
> >> >Meaningless.  What evidence supports [its] existence[?]
> >> 
> >> The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
> >> totally over your head.
> >
> >The arguments you are giving are convincing only to those who *already*
> >believe. If your goal is to convert non-believers, you're doing it wrong,
> >and should try other arguments.
> 
> I believe that the opening chapters of Luke (which leads into Acts)
> are phrased as a letter from a neutral party to a believer who wanted
> stuff investigated.
> 
> If your material converts neutral people into believers, then any
> material created by a neutral party becomes insider documents.

Huh?

pt

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#419065

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 14:14 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA4EC90F1AF756taustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#419062
petertrei@gmail.com wrote in
news:f01bc968-5124-41ce-8b7f-c6c9ff685909@googlegroups.com: 

> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:48:31 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
>> petertrei@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila
>> >> <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: 
>> 
>> >> >Meaningless.  What evidence supports [its] existence[?]
>> >> 
>> >> The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it,
>> >> and I can see it's totally over your head.
>> >
>> >The arguments you are giving are convincing only to those who
>> >*already* believe. If your goal is to convert non-believers,
>> >you're doing it wrong, and should try other arguments.
>> 
>> I believe that the opening chapters of Luke (which leads into
>> Acts) are phrased as a letter from a neutral party to a
>> believer who wanted stuff investigated.
>> 
>> If your material converts neutral people into believers, then
>> any material created by a neutral party becomes insider
>> documents. 
> 
> Huh?
> 
I think Greggie's been hitting the vodka a little early today.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#419070

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2015-08-04 15:35 -0600
Message-ID<d2cph7FhfauU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#419065
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>petertrei@gmail.com wrote in
>> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:48:31 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:

>>> I believe that the opening chapters of Luke (which leads into
>>> Acts) are phrased as a letter from a neutral party to a
>>> believer who wanted stuff investigated.

>I think Greggie's been hitting the vodka a little early today.


"Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have
been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those
who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.  With
this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything
from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you,
most excellent Theophilus,  so that you may know the certainty of the
things you have been taught."

"Theophilus" translates as "Lover of God" or in modern terms
"believer".

My brother, with a theology degree once told me that the "among us" is
believe to have been added in later, and that the document was written
TO a believer, but not necessarily BY a believer.

Luke and Acts were originally one book, but split for convenience.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#419072

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2015-08-04 15:39 -0600
Message-ID<d2cpp0FhfauU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#419065
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>I think Greggie's been hitting the vodka a little early today.

Today at noon was the "performance review" of last season's work at
the tax office towards next year's assignment.

I thought sincerely of hitting the ethanol afterwards - I hate
performance reviews.  But didn't.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#419130

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
Message-ID<j8j3sad5doiidgk6vlapvkdqba6gfhod7j@4ax.com>
In reply to#419050
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:03:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<9j62sap43a2r5b3j8qv8c979k1ai0ncpf2@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><2rnvral9oac39a445m9eejbogajcqahl3q@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:04:31 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>>>>
>>>>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>>>>soul.
>>>>
>>>>Prove a soul exists.
>>>
>>>Everybody has one.
>>
>>Avoidance noted.  Again.
>>
>>>
>>>>>  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.
>>>>Prove that.
>>>
>>>Its what makes mankind to be mankind.
>>
>>Meaningless.  What evidence supports it's existence.
>
>The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
>totally over your head.
>

You have never ever given me anything except to occasionally babble
"everything', which is hardly a rational answer.

But I stopped expecting rational answers or comments from you long
ago.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419154

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
Message-ID<99n4sap89chr4ckc8dvmiv438r6hpd7otn@4ax.com>
In reply to#419130
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:46:45 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:03:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><9j62sap43a2r5b3j8qv8c979k1ai0ncpf2@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 05:16:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:42:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><2rnvral9oac39a445m9eejbogajcqahl3q@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:04:31 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>>>>>soul.
>>>>>
>>>>>Prove a soul exists.
>>>>
>>>>Everybody has one.
>>>
>>>Avoidance noted.  Again.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.
>>>>>Prove that.
>>>>
>>>>Its what makes mankind to be mankind.
>>>
>>>Meaningless.  What evidence supports it's existence.
>>
>>The same stuff I gave yo before.  You refuse to accept it, and I can see it's
>>totally over your head.
>>
>
>You have never ever given me anything except to occasionally babble
>"everything', which is hardly a rational answer.

You are saturated out.   You can't grasp any more.

>But I stopped expecting rational answers or comments from you long
>ago.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#419211

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
Message-ID<au86salf6vuuirkccdn8hol5cj0lbi7pj9@4ax.com>
In reply to#419154
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:00:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<99n4sap89chr4ckc8dvmiv438r6hpd7otn@4ax.com> wrote:

>>You have never ever given me anything except to occasionally babble
>>"everything', which is hardly a rational answer.
>
>You are saturated out.   You can't grasp any more.
>
>>But I stopped expecting rational answers or comments from you long
>>ago.

Much like the one above.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#419356

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
Message-ID<h6aasahjll2s2ogo64pmd86t0bmkbqs461@4ax.com>
In reply to#419211
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:07:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:00:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><99n4sap89chr4ckc8dvmiv438r6hpd7otn@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>You have never ever given me anything except to occasionally babble
>>>"everything', which is hardly a rational answer.
>>
>>You are saturated out.   You can't grasp any more.
>>
>>>But I stopped expecting rational answers or comments from you long
>>>ago.
>
>Much like the one above.

I win, you lose.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#419400

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
Message-ID<1jfbsa19so5rgdculkkc3p99cjam00fpj6@4ax.com>
In reply to#419356
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:53:30 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<h6aasahjll2s2ogo64pmd86t0bmkbqs461@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:07:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:00:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><99n4sap89chr4ckc8dvmiv438r6hpd7otn@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>You have never ever given me anything except to occasionally babble
>>>>"everything', which is hardly a rational answer.
>>>
>>>You are saturated out.   You can't grasp any more.
>>>
>>>>But I stopped expecting rational answers or comments from you long
>>>>ago.
>>
>>Much like the one above.
>
>I win, you lose.
>
Is a contest of come kind involved?


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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