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  Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-10 22:54 +0000
    Re: Multi-system democracy Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-10 16:20 -0700
      Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-11 10:51 +0000
        Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-04-11 09:52 -0700
          Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-12 11:55 +0000
        Re: Multi-system democracy "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 15:35 -0700
          Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-19 23:07 +0000
            Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-19 17:10 -0700
          Re: Multi-system democracy William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:47 -0700
            Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-20 14:10 -0700
              Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:44 -0700
                Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-20 15:01 -0700
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-20 15:11 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-20 15:40 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 15:05 -0400
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-21 01:07 -0500
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 16:45 -0700
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 15:04 -0400
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 20:20 +0000
    Re: Multi-system democracy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 19:23 -0400
      Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 16:30 -0700
        Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-10 16:34 -0700
          Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 20:49 -0700
            Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-10 21:21 -0700
          Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-11 09:44 -0700
            Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-11 12:03 -0700
              Re: Multi-system democracy Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-04-12 06:19 -0700
                Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-12 07:33 -0700
              Re: Multi-system democracy David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-15 01:39 -0500
                Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-15 19:36 -0700
                Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-16 13:37 -0700
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-16 13:56 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 22:08 -0400
      Re: Multi-system democracy Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-10 20:13 -0700
        Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-10 20:21 -0700
      Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-11 09:33 -0700
        Re: Multi-system democracy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-04-12 17:12 -0400
          Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-13 20:08 +0000
            Re: Multi-system democracy wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-04-13 20:14 +0000
              Re: Multi-system democracy Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:56 -0500
                Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-14 03:23 -0700
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 09:44 -0500
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-14 09:50 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-15 14:15 +0000
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-04-14 09:10 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-14 13:23 -0700
              Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-15 14:14 +0000
          Re: Multi-system democracy David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 15:28 -0600
            Re: Multi-system democracy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 10:39 -0400
              Re: Multi-system democracy eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) - 2018-04-17 20:53 +0000
                Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:28 -0700
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 03:28 +0300
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 06:55 +0000
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 06:23 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-18 08:31 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 11:49 -0400
                        Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 09:47 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-18 19:22 +0000
                      Re: Multi-system democracy goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-04-19 04:36 +0000
                    Re: Multi-system democracy Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 08:42 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-18 21:11 +0000
                    Re: Multi-system democracy goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-04-19 04:34 +0000
                Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-18 21:08 +0000
                  Re: Multi-system democracy Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-18 15:57 -0700
                    Re: Multi-system democracy William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 12:39 -0700
                      Re: Multi-system democracy wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-04-19 20:23 +0000
                        Re: Multi-system democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-19 20:25 +0000
                          Re: Multi-system democracy Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 20:49 -0500
                            Re: Multi-system democracy Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 14:06 -0500
                      Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-19 15:58 -0700
                        Re: Multi-system democracy David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-19 19:03 -0600
                          Re: Multi-system democracy Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-19 18:07 -0700
                            Re: Multi-system democracy Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-19 18:22 -0700
                        Re: Multi-system democracy William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:43 -0700
            Re: Multi-system democracy larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-18 11:16 +0000

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#490194

In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry  <ljmoore@wightman.ca> wrote:
[somebody else said:]
>> There are no good TV shows.

>BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find grating.)

Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.

-GAWollman

-- 
Garrett A. Wollman    | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can,
wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future.  This is
Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
my employers.         | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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#490208

wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote in
news:par33s$2e8f$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu: 

> In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry  <ljmoore@wightman.ca>
> wrote: [somebody else said:]
>>> There are no good TV shows.
> 
>>BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find
>>grating.) 
> 
> Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
> Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
> Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.

My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series
on Nat Geo.

Its very good, with stunning photography and great content. However,
it *is* infected with the cable channel documentary disease of not 
only being structured around ads, but also spending 30 seconds before 
a break on teasers of the wonders to be seen if you stick out the 
ads, but also spends the first 30 seconds after the break summarizing 
the show so far.

My 30 second skip button gets a workout.

pt

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#490215

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:
> wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote in
> news:par33s$2e8f$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu: 
> 
> > In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry  <ljmoore@wightman.ca>
> > wrote: [somebody else said:]
> >>> There are no good TV shows.
> > 
> >>BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find
> >>grating.) 
> > 
> > Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
> > Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
> > Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.
> 
> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series
> on Nat Geo.

I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
to get excited about!

So, a series - does that mean several strange rocks?

> Its very good, with stunning photography and great content. However,
> it *is* infected with the cable channel documentary disease of not 
> only being structured around ads, but also spending 30 seconds before 
> a break on teasers of the wonders to be seen if you stick out the 
> ads, but also spends the first 30 seconds after the break summarizing 
> the show so far.
> 
> My 30 second skip button gets a workout.
> 
> pt

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#490233

Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in news:7aaaab63-1fa0-
4fa2-80d7-3ff0d9228c70@googlegroups.com:

> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:
>> wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote in
>> news:par33s$2e8f$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu: 
>> 
>> > In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry  
<ljmoore@wightman.ca>
>> > wrote: [somebody else said:] 
>> >>> There are no good TV shows.
>> > 
>> >>BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find
>> >>grating.) 
>> > 
>> > Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
>> > Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
>> > Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.
>> 
>> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series on
>> Nat Geo. 
> 
> I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
> to get excited about!
> 
> So, a series - does that mean several strange rocks?

The 'strange rock' is the planet Earth, and series clearly owes a 
lot to BBC's 'Planet Earth'. 

Its hosted by Will Smith, but the big hook is that they have eight
former astronauts giving personal accounts of observing the Earth
from space, and a ton of ISS based footage.

For someone who keeps up with science, there isn't much new (aside
from the astronaut commentary - they're given time to discuss their
reactions to space at some length, way beyond sound bites), but the
photography is gorgeous, and we're both enjoying it a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Strange_Rock_(TV_series)

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/one-strange-rock/

pt

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#490238

On 4/14/2018 7:44 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in news:7aaaab63-1fa0-
> 4fa2-80d7-3ff0d9228c70@googlegroups.com:
> 
>> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:
>>> wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote in
>>> news:par33s$2e8f$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu:
>>>
>>>> In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry
> <ljmoore@wightman.ca>
>>>> wrote: [somebody else said:]
>>>>>> There are no good TV shows.
>>>>
>>>>> BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find
>>>>> grating.)
>>>>
>>>> Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
>>>> Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
>>>> Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.
>>>
>>> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series on
>>> Nat Geo.
>>
>> I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
>> to get excited about!
>>
>> So, a series - does that mean several strange rocks?
> 
> The 'strange rock' is the planet Earth, and series clearly owes a
> lot to BBC's 'Planet Earth'.
> 
> Its hosted by Will Smith, but the big hook is that they have eight
> former astronauts giving personal accounts of observing the Earth
> from space, and a ton of ISS based footage.
> 
> For someone who keeps up with science, there isn't much new (aside
> from the astronaut commentary - they're given time to discuss their
> reactions to space at some length, way beyond sound bites), but the
> photography is gorgeous, and we're both enjoying it a lot.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Strange_Rock_(TV_series)
> 
> http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/one-strange-rock/
> 
I second what Crypto says here.


-- 
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation 
instinct are running screaming.

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#490321

On 2018-04-14, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 4/14/2018 7:44 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in news:7aaaab63-1fa0-
>> 4fa2-80d7-3ff0d9228c70@googlegroups.com:
>> 
>>> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:
>>>> wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote in
>>>> news:par33s$2e8f$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry
>> <ljmoore@wightman.ca>
>>>>> wrote: [somebody else said:]
>>>>>>> There are no good TV shows.
>>>>>
>>>>>> BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find
>>>>>> grating.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
>>>>> Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
>>>>> Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.
>>>>
>>>> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series on
>>>> Nat Geo.
>>>
>>> I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
>>> to get excited about!
>>>
>>> So, a series - does that mean several strange rocks?
>> 
>> The 'strange rock' is the planet Earth, and series clearly owes a
>> lot to BBC's 'Planet Earth'.
>> 
>> Its hosted by Will Smith, but the big hook is that they have eight
>> former astronauts giving personal accounts of observing the Earth
>> from space, and a ton of ISS based footage.
>> 
>> For someone who keeps up with science, there isn't much new (aside
>> from the astronaut commentary - they're given time to discuss their
>> reactions to space at some length, way beyond sound bites), but the
>> photography is gorgeous, and we're both enjoying it a lot.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Strange_Rock_(TV_series)
>> 
>> http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/one-strange-rock/
>> 
> I second what Crypto says here.
>
>
Noted and added to the list.


-- 
 After investigation, believe that which you have yourselves 
tested and found reasonable, and which is for your good 
and that of others.
Gautama.

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#490235

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 03:23:20 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:

[snip]

>> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series
>> on Nat Geo.
>
>I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
>to get excited about!

     It was not a documentary on ents?

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#490247

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 17:10:29 UTC+1, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 03:23:20 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:56:23 UTC+1, Cryptoengineer  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> My wife and I are watching 'One Strange Rock' a documentary series
> >> on Nat Geo.
> >
> >I thought _Meetings With Remarkable Trees_ was a difficult title
> >to get excited about!
> 
>      It was not a documentary on ents?

It's hard to tell.  The conversations were quite one-sided -
but it doesn't do to be hasty.  :-)

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#490320

On 2018-04-13, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
> In article <par2np$1c2$1@dont-email.me>, larry  <ljmoore@wightman.ca> wrote:
> [somebody else said:]
>>> There are no good TV shows.
>
>>BBC nature documentary (unlike National Geographic which I find grating.)
>
> Remember that National Geographic is Murdoch now (and National
> Geographic TV was Fox before National Geographic Magazine was News
> Corp).  Treat it the same way you would any other Fox channel.
>
> -GAWollman
>

Thanks, that explains it. A family of anti-Rumplestiltskins
if there ever was one. 

-- 
 After investigation, believe that which you have yourselves 
tested and found reasonable, and which is for your good 
and that of others.
Gautama.

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#490198

On 2018-04-12 3:12 PM, Wolffan wrote:
> On 11 Apr 2018, Quadibloc wrote
> (in article<c4e8550d-0c68-4b6e-80bc-1e8ed090a02b@googlegroups.com>):
> 
>> And here I thought we were huddled on your border to watch the good TV shows.
> 
> There are no good TV shows.
> 

<snort>  Such bullshit.

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#490232

On 13 Apr 2018, David Johnston wrote
(in article <par7en$12g5$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 2018-04-12 3:12 PM, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 11 Apr 2018, Quadibloc wrote
> > (in article<c4e8550d-0c68-4b6e-80bc-1e8ed090a02b@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > > And here I thought we were huddled on your border to watch the good TV
> > > shows.
> >
> > There are no good TV shows.
>
> <snort>  Such bullshit.

There haven’t been any good crime dramas since ‘Law &  Order’ departed, 
and the last few seasons of L&O weren’t very good. There haven’t been any 
good medical dramas since ‘ER’ departed, and the last few seasons of ER 
were bloody awful. The only thing even resembling a good comedy for the last 
20 years has been ‘The Simpsons’, and that’s getting old. The closest 
thing to a good SF drama since ‘Babylon 5’ was the re-up of ‘Battlestar 
Galactica’, and that fell apart starting with the 3rd season. B5 itself had 
serious problems in the 5th season. The various Trek were uniformly dreck... 
no, I take that back; Trek: Boobyprize stunk up the place even for Trek, and 
the new one is _worse_. I was unable to watch even one full episode of 
‘Oville’, it was so bad. ‘Game of Thrones’ is a massive gorefest.

There are no good TV shows.

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#490552

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com>
wrote:

>The only thing even resembling a good comedy for the last 
>20 years has been ˜The Simpsons, and that's getting old.

Wow, if The Simpsons is your "good comedy" bar and you haven't been
able to find anything better in the last 20 years, you must not be
looking very hard.  And I say that as a huge fan of The Simpsons who
has been watching it since it started and has probably seen every
episode, most of them multiple times.

But it's not even the best animated comedy on TV.  Archer, Bob's
Burgers, American Dad, Rick and Morty, even Family Guy is usually
better than The Simpsons any more.

Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade or so there's
been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking Woman, You're The Worst...I'm
sure about ten more will occur to me after I hit send.

There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to look for it.

Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent series that
the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently character?  They were
my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while.  Way better (and
weirder) than I was expecting.

  -- Bob

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#490555

eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan
> <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>The only thing even resembling a good comedy for the last 
>>20 years has been ˜The Simpsons, and that's getting old.
> 
> Wow, if The Simpsons is your "good comedy" bar and you haven't
> been able to find anything better in the last 20 years, you must
> not be looking very hard.  And I say that as a huge fan of The
> Simpsons who has been watching it since it started and has
> probably seen every episode, most of them multiple times.
> 
> But it's not even the best animated comedy on TV.  Archer, Bob's
> Burgers, American Dad, Rick and Morty, even Family Guy is
> usually better than The Simpsons any more.
> 
> Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade or so
> there's been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking Woman, You're
> The Worst...I'm sure about ten more will occur to me after I hit
> send. 

I used to watch The Simpsons semi-regularly, but there's only so 
many times you can laugh at the same characters pulling the same 
gags.

Nothing else you've mentioned so far rises above the level of 
"formulaic crap" for me. Might as well be Seth McFarland and fart 
jokes.
> 
> There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to look for
> it. 

ME TV just started a run of WKRP in Cincinnati. "As God is my 
witness, I thought turkeys could fly." *That* was a funny show.
> 
> Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent series
> that the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently character?
>  They were my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while. 
> Way better (and weirder) than I was expecting.

Dirk Gently was, indeed, funny as hell, and weird as hell (though 
not as weird as Happy!, but then, nothing is). Sadly, the humor was 
a little too British (and cerebral) for an American audience.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#490567

In article <XnsA8C79349D331Ctaustingmail@69.16.179.42>, 
taustinca@gmail.com says...
> 
> eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
> news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 

> > Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent series
> > that the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently character?
> >  They were my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while. 
> > Way better (and weirder) than I was expecting.
> 
> Dirk Gently was, indeed, funny as hell, and weird as hell (though 
> not as weird as Happy!, but then, nothing is). Sadly, the humor was 
> a little too British (and cerebral) for an American audience.

The series is pretty far removed from the novels, but a lot better than 
I expcected. (Then again, the novels weren't consistently brilliant, 
either.)

-- 
Juho Julkunen

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#490597

Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.3540bdb8fd4ce670989af1@news.kolumbus.fi: 

> In article <XnsA8C79349D331Ctaustingmail@69.16.179.42>, 
> taustinca@gmail.com says...
>> 
>> eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
>> news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 
> 
>> > Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent
>> > series that the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently
>> > character? 
>> >  They were my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while.
>> > Way better (and weirder) than I was expecting.
>> 
>> Dirk Gently was, indeed, funny as hell, and weird as hell
>> (though not as weird as Happy!, but then, nothing is). Sadly,
>> the humor was a little too British (and cerebral) for an
>> American audience. 
> 
> The series is pretty far removed from the novels, but a lot
> better than I expcected. (Then again, the novels weren't
> consistently brilliant, either.)
> 
I've never read the novels, though I have been tempted just to see 
how "based on the title of . . ." the show was. Douglas Adams, 
brilliant as he was, never really hit the sweet spot for humor for 
me. The show, though, was worth the time to watch. And that's rare 
these days.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#490606

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
> news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 
> 
> > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan
> > <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>The only thing even resembling a good comedy for the last 
> >>20 years has been 狼he Simpsons, and that's getting old.
> > 
> > Wow, if The Simpsons is your "good comedy" bar and you haven't
> > been able to find anything better in the last 20 years, you must
> > not be looking very hard.  And I say that as a huge fan of The
> > Simpsons who has been watching it since it started and has
> > probably seen every episode, most of them multiple times.
> > 
> > But it's not even the best animated comedy on TV.  Archer, Bob's
> > Burgers, American Dad, Rick and Morty, even Family Guy is
> > usually better than The Simpsons any more.
> > 
> > Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade or so
> > there's been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking Woman, You're
> > The Worst...I'm sure about ten more will occur to me after I hit
> > send. 
> 
> I used to watch The Simpsons semi-regularly, but there's only so 
> many times you can laugh at the same characters pulling the same 
> gags.
> 
> Nothing else you've mentioned so far rises above the level of 
> "formulaic crap" for me. Might as well be Seth McFarland and fart 
> jokes.
> > 
> > There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to look for
> > it. 
> 
> ME TV just started a run of WKRP in Cincinnati. "As God is my 
> witness, I thought turkeys could fly." *That* was a funny show.
> > 
> > Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent series
> > that the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently character?
> >  They were my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while. 
> > Way better (and weirder) than I was expecting.
> 
> Dirk Gently was, indeed, funny as hell, and weird as hell (though 
> not as weird as Happy!, but then, nothing is). Sadly, the humor was 
> a little too British (and cerebral) for an American audience.

I'm getting a kick out of 'The Good Place'. Very odd, restricted premise,
(which I won't spoil), but very funny.

On a more serious dramatic, but still SF side, 'The Expanse' has started 
season 3. Very well done, high budget, mostly-hard SF set about a century from
now.

pt

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#490612

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:23:13 AM UTC-4, Peter Trei wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> > eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
> > news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 
> > 
> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan
> > > <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >>The only thing even resembling a good comedy for the last 
> > >>20 years has been 狼he Simpsons, and that's getting old.
> > > 
> > > Wow, if The Simpsons is your "good comedy" bar and you haven't
> > > been able to find anything better in the last 20 years, you must
> > > not be looking very hard.  And I say that as a huge fan of The
> > > Simpsons who has been watching it since it started and has
> > > probably seen every episode, most of them multiple times.
> > > 
> > > But it's not even the best animated comedy on TV.  Archer, Bob's
> > > Burgers, American Dad, Rick and Morty, even Family Guy is
> > > usually better than The Simpsons any more.
> > > 
> > > Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade or so
> > > there's been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking Woman, You're
> > > The Worst...I'm sure about ten more will occur to me after I hit
> > > send. 
> > 
> > I used to watch The Simpsons semi-regularly, but there's only so 
> > many times you can laugh at the same characters pulling the same 
> > gags.
> > 
> > Nothing else you've mentioned so far rises above the level of 
> > "formulaic crap" for me. Might as well be Seth McFarland and fart 
> > jokes.
> > > 
> > > There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to look for
> > > it. 
> > 
> > ME TV just started a run of WKRP in Cincinnati. "As God is my 
> > witness, I thought turkeys could fly." *That* was a funny show.
> > > 
> > > Sort-of-SF-related - did anyone else watch the two recent series
> > > that the BBC made based on Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently character?
> > >  They were my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long while. 
> > > Way better (and weirder) than I was expecting.
> > 
> > Dirk Gently was, indeed, funny as hell, and weird as hell (though 
> > not as weird as Happy!, but then, nothing is). Sadly, the humor was 
> > a little too British (and cerebral) for an American audience.
> 
> I'm getting a kick out of 'The Good Place'. Very odd, restricted premise,
> (which I won't spoil), but very funny.
> 

There's an episode of that on the Hugo Ballot.

Great cast.  I could watch Kristin Bell read serial numbers
from an inventory printout, though.

> On a more serious dramatic, but still SF side, 'The Expanse' has started 
> season 3. Very well done, high budget, mostly-hard SF set about a century from
> now.
> 
>

Kevin R

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#490615

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:31:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:23:13 AM UTC-4, Peter Trei wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> > eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
>> > news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 
>> > 
>> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan
>> > > <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade or so
>> > > there's been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking Woman, You're
>> > > The Worst...I'm sure about ten more will occur to me after I hit
>> > > send. 
>> > 
>> > I used to watch The Simpsons semi-regularly, but there's only so 
>> > many times you can laugh at the same characters pulling the same 
>> > gags.
>> > 
>> > Nothing else you've mentioned so far rises above the level of 
>> > "formulaic crap" for me. Might as well be Seth McFarland and fart 
>> > jokes.

"Man Seeking Woman" is a bit weirder than that.

>> > > There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to look for
>> > > it. 
>> > 
>> I'm getting a kick out of 'The Good Place'. Very odd, restricted premise,
>> (which I won't spoil), but very funny.
>
>There's an episode of that on the Hugo Ballot.
>
>Great cast.  I could watch Kristin Bell read serial numbers
>from an inventory printout, though.

Especially if she's doing it sarcastically.




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#490616

Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:16qeddhsnkgq9acib3v0ul2lq9ruk31pp2@reader80.eternal-september.
org: 

> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:31:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob
> <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:23:13 AM UTC-4, Peter Trei
>>wrote: 
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda
>>> Jibini wrote: 
>>> > eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) wrote in
>>> > news:5ad65cac.481102000@localhost: 
>>> > 
>>> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:39:52 -0400, Wolffan
>>> > > <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > 
>>> > > Then there's live action comedies - from the last decade
>>> > > or so there's been 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Man Seeking
>>> > > Woman, You're The Worst...I'm sure about ten more will
>>> > > occur to me after I hit send. 
>>> > 
>>> > I used to watch The Simpsons semi-regularly, but there's
>>> > only so many times you can laugh at the same characters
>>> > pulling the same gags.
>>> > 
>>> > Nothing else you've mentioned so far rises above the level
>>> > of "formulaic crap" for me. Might as well be Seth McFarland
>>> > and fart jokes.
> 
> "Man Seeking Woman" is a bit weirder than that.

I don't believe I've ever even heard of that one.
> 
>>> > > There's a TON of good comedy on TV if you're willing to
>>> > > look for it. 
>>> > 
>>> I'm getting a kick out of 'The Good Place'. Very odd,
>>> restricted premise, (which I won't spoil), but very funny.
>>
>>There's an episode of that on the Hugo Ballot.
>>
>>Great cast.  I could watch Kristin Bell read serial numbers
>>from an inventory printout, though.
> 
> Especially if she's doing it sarcastically.
> 
Nobody can do sarcasm like the woman on Strange Inheritance. She 
couldn't tell you her name with a sarcastic sneer.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#490629

Kevrob wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:23:13 AM UTC-4, Peter Trei wrote:

> > I'm getting a kick out of 'The Good Place'. Very odd, restricted
> > premise, (which I won't spoil), but very funny.
> > 
> 
> There's an episode of that on the Hugo Ballot.
> 
> Great cast.  I could watch Kristin Bell read serial numbers
> from an inventory printout, though.

"What the fork! Why can't I say 'fork'?"


Brian

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