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The Origin of Gravity

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
Last post2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
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  The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 04:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:27 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-29 13:37 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-01 12:31 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 10:24 +0200
                          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:00 -0700
                            Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 19:10 +0200
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
            Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
              Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
                Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                  Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000

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#492823

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
Message-ID<5B144A8E.5B03@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492807
benj wrote:
> 
> On 6/3/2018 2:46 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/2/2018 6:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/2/2018 4:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It appears that some still don't understand
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> maybe I need to explain it in a
> >>>>>> different way...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> imagine a black hole..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> you got everything
> >>>>>> going in it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars, planets, rocks..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> then..you stand
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> at the other end of
> >>>>>> the black hole
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and watch everything
> >>>>>> that went in.. come out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Besides light and matter
> >>>>>> coming through...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> so does time and gravity.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In other words...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> matter originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> time originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and Gravity originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Before the big bang..
> >>>>>> Time was eternal..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> now it is divided into ...seconds.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars didn't die before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> matter was created moments before the big bang
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and Gravity ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> well..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> this might be too complicated fo yous...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (some of you cannot even THINK a before the big bang, there's no hope for yous)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I mean, really...how can i explain
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>>> if yous cannot even get pass before the big bang????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I understand...you're waiting for the Headline: "Scientist say Before The Big Bang is Not What They Thought."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, things travel a straight line because of the line connecting them..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> because of the force that connects with the line...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> so...a body that continues in motion with a constant velocity in a straight line...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the line
> >>>>> connecting
> >>>>> a body
> >>>>> in motion
> >>>>> is called...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the gravity from before the big bang
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is directing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a body
> >>>>> that is
> >>>>> traveling
> >>>>> a straight line.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In simplier terms that you can understand...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it pushes a body out..and it goes in a straight line..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> because it is still connected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Like the mother pushes the baby out but the baby remains connected to the mother...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and the baby gets up and walks a straight line.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you teach a baby to walk ...sideways???
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> come on, this is unmathematical..you don't need these fuckin science business to make heads or tails out of it...
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is also babbling drool worse than Archie or Bert.
> >>>> If space is curved then there are no straight lines just like there is
> >>>> no future.
> >>>>
> >>>> Faker you are STILL A moron.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The operative word is..."constant velocity"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> so...a body that continues in motion with a 'constant velocity' in a straight line...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> is inglish your thoird language????
> >>>
> >> Faker you need to learn the science you found so impossible to get a
> >> passing grade in in school. There is nothing about "constant velocity
> >> that makes a straight line. Trying to explain your 'deep thoughts' to
> >> you is like trying to explain quantum mechanics to my dog. Do you know
> >> the difference between a locus of x and what in math is called the
> >> derivative of x? Of course you don't. Actual knowledge is not part of
> >> your deep thoughts.
> >>
> >> Obviously you are STILL a moron. How about you learn some actual
> >> knowledge FIRST and then post your ideas to the world.
> >
> >
> > 'constant velocity' means it *does not* change from a straight line to a curve. It's...straight.
> >
> >
> > is engulish your forth language????
> >
> Faker how can you be so ignorant of math and science and still think you
> can fool people into thinking you know something?
> 
> Incredible!
> 
> You are STILL a moron.



okay, i'll try to make you feel comfortable...

Tu casa es me casa.

Tu habla ingles?

don't drink the water..

no toma la agua

i no need no stinky badge..

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#492856

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
Message-ID<5B1497EB.501C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492807
benj wrote:
> 
> On 6/3/2018 2:46 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/2/2018 6:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/2/2018 4:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It appears that some still don't understand
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> maybe I need to explain it in a
> >>>>>> different way...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> imagine a black hole..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> you got everything
> >>>>>> going in it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars, planets, rocks..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> then..you stand
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> at the other end of
> >>>>>> the black hole
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and watch everything
> >>>>>> that went in.. come out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Besides light and matter
> >>>>>> coming through...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> so does time and gravity.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In other words...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> matter originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> time originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and Gravity originated
> >>>>>> before the big bang.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Before the big bang..
> >>>>>> Time was eternal..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> now it is divided into ...seconds.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars didn't die before the big bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> matter was created moments before the big bang
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and Gravity ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> well..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> this might be too complicated fo yous...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (some of you cannot even THINK a before the big bang, there's no hope for yous)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I mean, really...how can i explain
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>>> if yous cannot even get pass before the big bang????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I understand...you're waiting for the Headline: "Scientist say Before The Big Bang is Not What They Thought."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, things travel a straight line because of the line connecting them..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> because of the force that connects with the line...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> so...a body that continues in motion with a constant velocity in a straight line...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the line
> >>>>> connecting
> >>>>> a body
> >>>>> in motion
> >>>>> is called...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the gravity from before the big bang
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is directing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a body
> >>>>> that is
> >>>>> traveling
> >>>>> a straight line.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In simplier terms that you can understand...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it pushes a body out..and it goes in a straight line..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> because it is still connected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Like the mother pushes the baby out but the baby remains connected to the mother...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and the baby gets up and walks a straight line.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you teach a baby to walk ...sideways???
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> come on, this is unmathematical..you don't need these fuckin science business to make heads or tails out of it...
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is also babbling drool worse than Archie or Bert.
> >>>> If space is curved then there are no straight lines just like there is
> >>>> no future.
> >>>>
> >>>> Faker you are STILL A moron.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The operative word is..."constant velocity"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> so...a body that continues in motion with a 'constant velocity' in a straight line...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> is inglish your thoird language????
> >>>
> >> Faker you need to learn the science you found so impossible to get a
> >> passing grade in in school. There is nothing about "constant velocity
> >> that makes a straight line. Trying to explain your 'deep thoughts' to
> >> you is like trying to explain quantum mechanics to my dog. Do you know
> >> the difference between a locus of x and what in math is called the
> >> derivative of x? Of course you don't. Actual knowledge is not part of
> >> your deep thoughts.
> >>
> >> Obviously you are STILL a moron. How about you learn some actual
> >> knowledge FIRST and then post your ideas to the world.
> >
> >
> > 'constant velocity' means it *does not* change from a straight line to a curve. It's...straight.
> >
> >
> > is engulish your forth language????
> >
> Faker how can you be so ignorant of math and science and still think you
> can fool people into thinking you know something?
> 
> Incredible!
> 
> You are STILL a moron.


I mean, come on already...lets be real, not imaginary   ..you never said here the universe was curved.

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#494327

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-29 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<5B366C17.F0D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492748
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> It appears that some still don't understand
> The Origin of Gravity...
> 
> maybe I need to explain it in a
> different way...
> 
> imagine a black hole..
> 
> you got everything
> going in it..
> 
> stars, planets, rocks..
> 
> then..you stand
> 
> at the other end of
> the black hole
> 
> and watch everything
> that went in.. come out.
> 
> Besides light and matter
> coming through...
> 
> so does time and gravity.
> 
> In other words...
> 
> stars originated
> before the big bang..
> 
> matter originated
> before the big bang..
> 
> time originated
> before the big bang..
> 
> and Gravity originated
> before the big bang.
> 
> Before the big bang..
> Time was eternal..
> 
> now it is divided into ...seconds.
> 
> stars didn't die before the big bang..
> 
> matter was created moments before the big bang
> 
> and Gravity ...
> 
> well..
> 
> this might be too complicated fo yous...
> 
> (some of you cannot even THINK a before the big bang, there's no hope for yous)
> 
> I mean, really...how can i explain
> The Origin of Gravity
> if yous cannot even get pass before the big bang????
> 
> I understand...you're waiting for the Headline: "Scientist say Before The Big Bang is Not What They Thought."




Do you know what 'eternal time' feels like? Before the big bang you had 'eternal time'...

it feels like
one second taking a billion years to pass.


Stare at a clock for 24 hours continously and you may get the idea...


Now gravity before and after the big bang is like
shoving a pizza through a black hole...


you still got some pineapple and pepperonni on the pizza bit it's a little ...strecthed.

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#494334

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-06-29 13:37 -0700
Message-ID<ph65a9$br$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#494327
On 6/29/2018 10:27 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> It appears that some still don't understand
>> The Origin of Gravity...
>>
>> maybe I need to explain it in a
>> different way...
>>
>> imagine a black hole..
>>
>> you got everything
>> going in it..
>>
>> stars, planets, rocks..
>>
>> then..you stand
>>
>> at the other end of
>> the black hole
>>
>> and watch everything
>> that went in.. come out.
>>
>> Besides light and matter
>> coming through...
>>
>> so does time and gravity.
>>
>> In other words...
>>
>> stars originated
>> before the big bang..
>>
>> matter originated
>> before the big bang..
>>
>> time originated
>> before the big bang..
>>
>> and Gravity originated
>> before the big bang.
>>
>> Before the big bang..
>> Time was eternal..
>>
>> now it is divided into ...seconds.
>>
>> stars didn't die before the big bang..
>>
>> matter was created moments before the big bang
>>
>> and Gravity ...
>>
>> well..
>>
>> this might be too complicated fo yous...
>>
>> (some of you cannot even THINK a before the big bang, there's no hope for yous)
>>
>> I mean, really...how can i explain
>> The Origin of Gravity
>> if yous cannot even get pass before the big bang????
>>
>> I understand...you're waiting for the Headline: "Scientist say Before The Big Bang is Not What They Thought."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you know what 'eternal time' feels like? Before the big bang you had 'eternal time'...
> 
> it feels like
> one second taking a billion years to pass.
> 
> 
> Stare at a clock for 24 hours continously and you may get the idea...

Time does seem to go slower when you are constantly observing it.



> 
> 
> Now gravity before and after the big bang is like
> shoving a pizza through a black hole...
> 
> 
> you still got some pineapple and pepperonni on the pizza bit it's a little ...strecthed.
> 

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#494370

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-01 12:31 -0700
Message-ID<5B392C2B.7F56@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#494327
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > It appears that some still don't understand
> > The Origin of Gravity...
> >
> > maybe I need to explain it in a
> > different way...
> >
> > imagine a black hole..
> >
> > you got everything
> > going in it..
> >
> > stars, planets, rocks..
> >
> > then..you stand
> >
> > at the other end of
> > the black hole
> >
> > and watch everything
> > that went in.. come out.
> >
> > Besides light and matter
> > coming through...
> >
> > so does time and gravity.
> >
> > In other words...
> >
> > stars originated
> > before the big bang..
> >
> > matter originated
> > before the big bang..
> >
> > time originated
> > before the big bang..
> >
> > and Gravity originated
> > before the big bang.
> >
> > Before the big bang..
> > Time was eternal..
> >
> > now it is divided into ...seconds.
> >
> > stars didn't die before the big bang..
> >
> > matter was created moments before the big bang
> >
> > and Gravity ...
> >
> > well..
> >
> > this might be too complicated fo yous...
> >
> > (some of you cannot even THINK a before the big bang, there's no hope for yous)
> >
> > I mean, really...how can i explain
> > The Origin of Gravity
> > if yous cannot even get pass before the big bang????
> >
> > I understand...you're waiting for the Headline: "Scientist say Before The Big Bang is Not What They Thought."
> 
> Do you know what 'eternal time' feels like? Before the big bang you had 'eternal time'...
> 
> it feels like
> one second taking a billion years to pass.
> 
> Stare at a clock for 24 hours continously and you may get the idea...
> 
> Now gravity before and after the big bang is like
> shoving a pizza through a black hole...
> 
> you still got some pineapple and pepperonni on the pizza but it's a little ...strecthed.



I noticed that most people don't know...(especially those in the scientific community which stuns me...)

that...before the big bang
mass and energy were two separate entities.

Mass is a product of energy.

After the big bang, they both became ...one.


on a different note, did you know the newsreader I use to post does not contain a FollowUp-to feature or devise?

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#494416

FromKlaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de>
Date2018-07-03 10:24 +0200
Message-ID<phfbs2$1tq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#494370
> I noticed that most people don't know...(especially those in the scientific community which stuns me...)
> 
> that...before the big bang
> mass and energy were two separate entities.
> 
> Mass is a product of energy.
> 
> After the big bang, they both became ...one.

The master of the three dots strikes again!

... is probably a placeholder for the vacuum in your forebrain?


-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Klaus Meinhard

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#494427

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-03 09:00 -0700
Message-ID<5B3B9DB7.305A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#494416
Klaus Meinhard wrote:
> 
> > I noticed that most people don't know...(especially those in the scientific community which stuns me...)
> >
> > that...before the big bang
> > mass and energy were two separate entities.
> >
> > Mass is a product of energy.
> >
> > After the big bang, they both became ...one.
> 
> The master of the three dots strikes again!
> 
> ... is probably a placeholder for the vacuum in your forebrain?
> 
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> 
> Klaus Meinhard


In history, when the russians invaded germany, they raped all the
women...

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#494431

FromKlaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de>
Date2018-07-03 19:10 +0200
Message-ID<phgan0$eha$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#494427
Hallo The Starmaker,
> In history, when the russians invaded germany, they raped all the> women...
Let's call youi Dotty.



-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Klaus Meinhard

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#492696

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
Message-ID<5B0EEE83.2BA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492634
poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:47 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > benj wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>> The problem with describing
> > > > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> math won't do..
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> before the big bang...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > > > >>>> a dozen eggs.
> > > > >>> [...]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where did they come from?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I already mentioned in my class
> > > > >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > > > >> the steady state universe.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > > > >> the steady state universe?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> i would have to look for it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Starmaker
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > > > >
> > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > > > >
> > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > > > >
> > > > and the way you know all this is?
> > >
> > > When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered.
> > >
> > > I thought you girls knew this stuff.
> >
> >
> > Once you understand that...that, gravity works in the smallest area of the ripeness of an apple.
> ====================
> ripples of an apple'' ?!!
> 
> why do you stick here an apple
> what is the connection between
> ripples
> and  curved motion ??


I wrote "ripeness", not 'ripples'. (and no mentioned of curve motion) (why do others see words that are not there????)


You can tell if an apple is ripe when it falls from a tree. 


When the apple hit Newtons head, he mistakenly confused universal gravity with quantium gravity.

It is quantium gravity that is the force of nature to tell it when an apple is ripe.

It needs to fall at the ripe time...


It appears to me that nobody understands the theory of guantium gravity...


or how it works. 


It's really simple...and so many people in the 'scientific community' seem to be mistaken about it...


When an apple falls from a tree at the very moment that it is ripe has nothing to do with the attraction of the stars and planets...

you need to take a closer look at the apple.

Without Gravity checking to see when the apple is ripe, it will get ...rotten.

I mean, ...I thought you girls knew this stuff? You don't actually believe I make all this stuff, do you????


I mean, it's not my fault that the proffesors in your colleges are...stupid.

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#492699

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
Message-ID<5B0F0CE6.6A82@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492696
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:47 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > benj wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>>> The problem with describing
> > > > > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> math won't do..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> before the big bang...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > > > > >>>> a dozen eggs.
> > > > > >>> [...]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where did they come from?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I already mentioned in my class
> > > > > >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > > > > >> the steady state universe.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > > > > >> the steady state universe?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> i would have to look for it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Starmaker
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > > > > >
> > > > > and the way you know all this is?
> > > >
> > > > When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered.
> > > >
> > > > I thought you girls knew this stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > Once you understand that...that, gravity works in the smallest area of the ripeness of an apple.
> > ====================
> > ripples of an apple'' ?!!
> >
> > why do you stick here an apple
> > what is the connection between
> > ripples
> > and  curved motion ??
> 
> I wrote "ripeness", not 'ripples'. (and no mentioned of curve motion) (why do others see words that are not there????)
> 
> You can tell if an apple is ripe when it falls from a tree.
> 
> When the apple hit Newtons head, he mistakenly confused universal gravity with quantium gravity.
> 
> It is quantium gravity that is the force of nature to tell it when an apple is ripe.
> 
> It needs to fall at the ripe time...
> 
> It appears to me that nobody understands the theory of guantium gravity...
> 
> or how it works.
> 
> It's really simple...and so many people in the 'scientific community' seem to be mistaken about it...
> 
> When an apple falls from a tree at the very moment that it is ripe has nothing to do with the attraction of the stars and planets...
> 
> you need to take a closer look at the apple.
> 
> Without Gravity checking to see when the apple is ripe, it will get ...rotten.



In other words... the particles on a small scale 'obey' the laws of gravity. 

One must remember that a particle inside an apple views an apple the size of the earth, relativity speaking.

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#492677

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
Message-ID<5B0E5D1D.7151@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492626
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> The problem with describing
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>
> >>>> math won't do..
> >>>>
> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>
> >>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> Where did they come from?
> >>
> >> I already mentioned in my class
> >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >> the steady state universe.
> >>
> >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >> the steady state universe?
> >>
> >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>
> >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>
> >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>
> >> i would have to look for it.
> >>
> >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>
> >> The Starmaker
> >
> >
> > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >
> > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >
> > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >
> > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >
> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> 
> Faker you are STILL a moron. 


Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?

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#492683

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
Message-ID<OgyPC.131000$R51.73726@fx03.iad>
In reply to#492677
On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>
>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>
>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>
>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>
>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>
>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>
>>>
>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>
>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>
>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>
>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>
>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>
>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> 
> 
> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> 
The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of 
your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day 
reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see 
that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!

You get it yet?

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#492690

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<5B0EDF0B.1A58@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492683
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where did they come from?
> >>>>
> >>>> I already mentioned in my class
> >>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >>>> the steady state universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >>>> the steady state universe?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>>>
> >>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>>>
> >>>> i would have to look for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >>>
> >>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >>>
> >>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >>>
> >>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >>>
> >> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> >> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> >>
> >> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> >
> >
> > Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> >
> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of

"us"???? is that like a me, myself and i??? 

> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see

"We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee? 

"Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...


maybe you didn't see the word..."you".


'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'




> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> 
> You get it yet?


My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.



Get it?


Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...

on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...

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#492697

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
Message-ID<wqCPC.36996$Kp4.9436@fx43.iad>
In reply to#492690
On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>>>
>>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>>>
>>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>>>
>>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>>>
>>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
>>>
>> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> 
> "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> 
>> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
>> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> 
> "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> 
> "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> 
> 
> maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> 
> 
> 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
>>
>> You get it yet?
> 
> 
> My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> 
> 
> 
> Get it?
> 
> 
> Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> 
> on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> 
<sigh>
PLonk.

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#492738

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
Message-ID<5B11059B.703A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492697
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >>>>>
> >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> >>>>
> >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> >>>
> >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> >
> > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> >
> >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> >
> > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> >
> > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> >
> >
> > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> >
> >
> > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> >>
> >> You get it yet?
> >
> >
> > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Get it?
> >
> >
> > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> >
> > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> >
> <sigh>
> PLonk.


Oh, that's real deep..

you're like those talking animals...ants.


<sigh>
PLonk.


that's ant talk, isn't it.


Tell me, do ants do Science?

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#492757

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
Message-ID<5B11B5CA.41FD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492738
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> benj wrote:
> >
> > On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > benj wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> benj wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> > >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> > >>>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> > >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Starmaker
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> > >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> > >>>
> > >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> > >
> > > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> > >
> > >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> > >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> > >
> > > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> > >
> > > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> > >
> > >
> > > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> > >
> > >
> > > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> > >>
> > >> You get it yet?
> > >
> > >
> > > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Get it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> > >
> > > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> > >
> > <sigh>
> > PLonk.
> 
> Oh, that's real deep..
> 
> you're like those talking animals...ants.
> 
> <sigh>
> PLonk.
> 
> that's ant talk, isn't it.
> 
> Tell me, do ants do Science?


Of course the ants look at us and wonder what do the sounds we makes means...


has anybody bothered to decode ant language? They talk to each other everyday...

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#492760

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
Message-ID<5B11C5BB.7E2D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#492757
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > benj wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > benj wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> benj wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> > > >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > > >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > > >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> > > >>>>>>> [...]
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> > > >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > > >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > > >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Starmaker
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> > > >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> > > >>>
> > > >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> > > >
> > > > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> > > >
> > > >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> > > >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> > > >
> > > > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> > > >
> > > > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> > > >>
> > > >> You get it yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Get it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> > > >
> > > > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> > > >
> > > <sigh>
> > > PLonk.
> >
> > Oh, that's real deep..
> >
> > you're like those talking animals...ants.
> >
> > <sigh>
> > PLonk.
> >
> > that's ant talk, isn't it.
> >
> > Tell me, do ants do Science?
> 
> Of course the ants look at us and wonder what do the sounds we makes means...
> 
> has anybody bothered to decode ant language? They talk to each other everyday...


anybody speak ant here?

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#492733

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
Message-ID<iD1QC.116995$%s2.33194@fx18.iad>
In reply to#492677
On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>
>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>
>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>
>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>
>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>
>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>
>>>
>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>
>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>
>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>
>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>
>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>
>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> 
> 
> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> 
So tell us faker, what value is there in you "Perpetually" posting the 
most ignorant of science ideas? The way to stop my "observations" would 
be for you to learn some actual science facts and post them instead. 
Even though Wormley regularly gets his ass handed to him here, he STILL 
knows more science in his little finger than you do in your whole body! 
And bingo, I no longer have to point out your lack of intelligence! (For 
me to "Insult your intelligence" implies that there would have to be 
some intelligence there for me to insult, right?)

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#492643

FromWhisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
Date2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
Message-ID<JvydnSy0O7Lr2JDGnZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#492622
On 29/05/2018 4:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
> 
> 
> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> 
> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> 
> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> 
> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> 
>


You don't know what gravity is.  If you do please tell us.



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#492647 — Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
SubjectGravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--7.19am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#492643
> > gravity is the machinery behind the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> 
> You don't know what gravity is.  If you do please tell us.

13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
[ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]

Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy.

Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.

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