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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700 |
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There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700
Re: There is no future SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-05-21 20:30 +1000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 09:18 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 11:40 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 08:36 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 13:24 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 13:49 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 22:31 -0400
Re: There is no future Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 03:12 +0000
The answer isn't meaningful to most people. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 23:34 -0700
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:12 -0400
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-23 16:54 +0000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:12 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:55 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:59 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:56 -0400
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 14:59 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:19 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:10 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:38 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:56 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 10:45 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:30 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:17 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:46 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 17:47 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:43 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:08 -0400
Re: There is no future Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-30 03:46 -0600
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:10 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 08:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B06DC72.2260@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492349 |
if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 11:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8hBNC.198160$1e7.90262@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #492472 |
On 5/24/2018 11:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > There was a future yesterday so why not today too? Your "deep thoughts" are SO pitiful, faker. You are still an idiot.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 10:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B06FA51.5E3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492476 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/24/2018 11:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > > There was a future yesterday so why not today too? > Well, if the future is today, and a future yesterday... when is the past? Yesterday in the future???? i'm a little confused..
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 20:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <XOINC.113576$np1.55329@fx06.iad> |
| In reply to | #492480 |
On 5/24/2018 1:45 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/24/2018 11:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >>> >>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. >>> >> There was a future yesterday so why not today too? >> > > > Well, if the future is today, and a future yesterday... > > when is the past? > > > Yesterday in the future???? > > > i'm a little confused.. > Duh. It's no surprised you are confused faker. You should have known better than to attempt "deep thoughts". Today's future becomes today's present tomorrow then tomorrow, today's present becomes tomorrow's past. It's so simple faker and not "deep" at all. If there is no future then tomorrow nothing will exist. So far there has always been a future.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 22:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B079C7D.45B3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492499 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/24/2018 1:45 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > >> > >> On 5/24/2018 11:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > >>> > >>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > >>> > >> There was a future yesterday so why not today too? > >> > > > > > > Well, if the future is today, and a future yesterday... > > > > when is the past? > > > > > > Yesterday in the future???? > > > > > > i'm a little confused.. > > > Duh. It's no surprised you are confused faker. You should have known > better than to attempt "deep thoughts". > > Today's future becomes today's present tomorrow then tomorrow, today's > present becomes tomorrow's past. It's so simple faker and not "deep" at > all. If there is no future then tomorrow nothing will exist. So far > there has always been a future. what you believe is the future or tomorrow is just a simple rotation of the earth's axis.. the earth has no idea what you're talking about... "Today's future becomes today's present tomorrow then tomorrow" Is that a joke? You believe in the hereafter...
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 10:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nlVNC.199741$1e7.93945@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #492517 |
On 5/25/2018 1:17 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/24/2018 1:45 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> benj wrote: >>>> >>>> On 5/24/2018 11:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >>>>> >>>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. >>>>> >>>> There was a future yesterday so why not today too? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Well, if the future is today, and a future yesterday... >>> >>> when is the past? >>> >>> >>> Yesterday in the future???? >>> >>> >>> i'm a little confused.. >>> >> Duh. It's no surprised you are confused faker. You should have known >> better than to attempt "deep thoughts". >> >> Today's future becomes today's present tomorrow then tomorrow, today's >> present becomes tomorrow's past. It's so simple faker and not "deep" at >> all. If there is no future then tomorrow nothing will exist. So far >> there has always been a future. > > what you believe is the future or tomorrow is just a simple rotation of > the earth's axis.. > > the earth has no idea what you're talking about... Could be but then NOBODY has any idea what in Hell you are talking about. > "Today's future becomes today's present tomorrow then tomorrow" Is that > a joke? > > You believe in the hereafter... So long as the hereafter keeps becoming now the next day, I believe in it. When it stops, then we can doubt the hereafter. You are obviously having trouble with "deep thoughts". No surprise as you are still an idiot.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B085A8E.7830@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492472 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future. i thought you girls knew this stuff? There is no ...tommorow. there's no future.. i thought you girls knew this stuff? Uncertaintly means.. There is no future. Is there one? Are you certain? No you're not certain.. there is a reason why you're not certain.. it's Nature's way of telling you there is no future.. i thought you girls knew this stuff? Is there a future? No, there is none! i thought you girls knew this stuff? watdafuck, it's just an illusion.. i thought you girls knew this stuff?
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 17:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Wv%NC.80153$4M6.74829@fx27.iad> |
| In reply to | #492541 |
On 5/25/2018 2:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >> >> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > > The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future. > > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > > There is no ...tommorow. > > > there's no future.. > > > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > > Uncertaintly means.. There is no future. > > > Is there one? > > Are you certain? > > No > you're not certain.. > > there is a reason why > you're not certain.. > > it's Nature's way of > telling you > there is no future.. > > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > > Is there a future? No, there is none! > > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > > > watdafuck, it's just an illusion.. > > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > DOOD! Take easy on the stash. But we still love ya, man!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 23:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0CF6AD.10D4@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492541 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future. > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > There is no ...tommorow. > > there's no future.. > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > Uncertaintly means.. There is no future. > > Is there one? > > Are you certain? > > No > you're not certain.. > > there is a reason why > you're not certain.. > > it's Nature's way of > telling you > there is no future.. > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > Is there a future? No, there is none! > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > watdafuck, it's just an illusion.. > > i thought you girls knew this stuff? i keep waiting for tommorow but it ends up being...today. Tommorow never comes. I bet you tommorow it will be today.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 07:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IsaPC.220211$Hv4.191362@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #492635 |
On 5/29/2018 2:43 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >>> >>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. >> >> The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future. >> >> i thought you girls knew this stuff? >> >> There is no ...tommorow. >> >> there's no future.. >> >> i thought you girls knew this stuff? >> >> Uncertaintly means.. There is no future. >> >> Is there one? >> >> Are you certain? >> >> No >> you're not certain.. >> >> there is a reason why >> you're not certain.. >> >> it's Nature's way of >> telling you >> there is no future.. >> >> i thought you girls knew this stuff? >> >> Is there a future? No, there is none! >> >> i thought you girls knew this stuff? >> >> watdafuck, it's just an illusion.. >> >> i thought you girls knew this stuff? > > > i keep waiting for tommorow but it ends up being...today. > > Tommorow never comes. > > I bet you tommorow it will be today. > of course it will. Overnight it just changes its name! Of course it's still the same thing (time) but in the lib nutjob world, reality is determined only by names and imagination, never by what something actually is. This in lib writer worlds starmaker and starfaker are two different people. Trust me. Starfaker you are STILL an idiot.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 23:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0CF7B7.4CAC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492541 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous are... the question is...Is There a Future? I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it????
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 07:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <AwaPC.173875$6C5.158541@fx07.iad> |
| In reply to | #492636 |
On 5/29/2018 2:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >>> >>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > > you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous > are... > > the question is...Is There a Future? > > > I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it???? > I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical, namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no such luck.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-05-30 03:46 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <fn7aa0Fg3ifU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492641 |
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is >and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical, >namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather >will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no >such luck. Starmaker's deep thoughts have not been in MY world for four or five years. Except when someone like you takes a liking to him. Killfile him. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-30 10:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0EDB1E.6955@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492678 |
Greg Goss wrote: > > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > > >I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is > >and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical, > >namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather > >will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no > >such luck. > > Starmaker's deep thoughts have not been in MY world for four or five > years. Except when someone like you takes a liking to him. > > Killfile him. > -- > We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current. forgetabout fileing him...just kill him...period!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B144E14.497@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492636 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous > are... > > the question is...Is There a Future? > > I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it???? okay, I'll explain in a different way... no future no past you just have memories and dreams of the past and future. the past and future is all in your head. Now, ..i mean NOW the present.. the always present is made of of millions and billions and trillions of units yous call...events.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KDFMC.138054$o43.27726@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #492294 |
On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> There is no future... >> or proof that a future exist. > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B032DA9.1DCD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492319 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> There is no future... > >> or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! > We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3lGMC.142422$nq5.125652@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #492321 |
On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> There is no future... >>>> or proof that a future exist. >>> >>> >>> >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. >>> >>> >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? >>> >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! > > > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! > Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there is going to be a future a moment from now. On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. Starfaker you are still an idiot.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B034093.5699@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #492323 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > >> > >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> There is no future... > >>>> or proof that a future exist. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > >>> > >>> > >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > >>> > >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! > >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! > > > > > > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! > > > Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know > that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no > present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all > living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this > law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is > NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated > with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there > is going to be a future a moment from now. > > On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In > nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from > Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they > are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects > sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment > of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What > this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" > future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking > experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. > > Starfaker you are still an idiot. You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head... let me know when you reached the future...
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <moJMC.154568$T14.15898@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #492329 |
On 5/21/2018 5:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> benj wrote: >>>> >>>> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no future... >>>>>> or proof that a future exist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? >>>>> >>>> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! >>>> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! >>> >>> >>> Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! >>> >> Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know >> that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no >> present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all >> living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this >> law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is >> NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated >> with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there >> is going to be a future a moment from now. >> >> On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In >> nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from >> Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they >> are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects >> sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment >> of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What >> this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" >> future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking >> experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. >> >> Starfaker you are still an idiot. > > > You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head... Obviously not very effective in your case. > let me know when you reached the future... Depends if the future is really there to reach or not. I can't tell if it is. (Deep thoughts).
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