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  The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-17 23:36 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-18 00:12 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 00:42 -0700
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-18 22:26 +1000
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 17:02 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-18 17:33 +1000
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 10:27 -0700
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-19 12:19 +1000
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-19 23:51 -0700
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-21 22:02 +1000
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-21 09:25 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-22 16:23 +1000
                  Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 13:48 -0700
                    Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-04-23 10:35 +1000
                      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 21:13 -0700
                        Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 23:23 -0700
                          Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 23:31 -0700
                        Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-23 20:04 +1000
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 10:18 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-18 13:33 -0400
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-19 23:53 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-04-20 07:38 -0400
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-20 10:07 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-23 10:31 -0500
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-23 22:50 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-24 20:48 +1000
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:49 -0700
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:50 -0700
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-24 23:21 -0500
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-25 20:25 +1000
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-25 08:53 +0200
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-25 20:28 +1000
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 10:42 -0500
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-25 13:33 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 22:53 -0500
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-26 00:00 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 03:06 +0200
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-26 19:44 +1000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-26 08:18 -0700
                  Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-28 00:16 +1000
                    Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-27 07:46 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:33 -0500
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:34 -0400
                  Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-28 22:33 -0500
                    Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-29 03:17 -0400
                    Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-29 09:21 -0400
                      Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-29 07:26 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-28 11:44 -0700
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-27 09:47 +0200
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2018-04-27 21:39 +0200
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-25 15:33 -0700

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#490592 — The Shape of the Universe.

The Shape of the Universe.

There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or curved.

The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.

If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and

see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.

But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...

if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of the universe...and

if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.

But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.

But here is the catch..

in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass the curvature..where

the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature 'ring' of the universe.

Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a very large infinite size pizza flat box.

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#490598

On 4/17/2018 11:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Shape of the Universe.
> 
> There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or curved.
> 
> The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
> 
> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> 
> see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
> 
> But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
> 
> if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of the universe...and
> 
> if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
> 
> But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
> 
> But here is the catch..
> 
> in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass the curvature..where
> 
> the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature 'ring' of the universe.
> 
> Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a very large infinite size pizza flat box.
> 

total sci-fi
___________

It might resemble a 3d dual cardioid like shape torus thing...

;^)

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#490600

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
> On 4/17/2018 11:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Shape of the Universe.
> >
> > There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or curved.
> >
> > The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
> >
> > If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >
> > see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
> >
> > But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
> >
> > if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of the universe...and
> >
> > if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
> >
> > But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
> >
> > But here is the catch..
> >
> > in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass the curvature..where
> >
> > the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature 'ring' of the universe.
> >
> > Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a very large infinite size pizza flat box.
> >
> 
> total sci-fi
> ___________
> 
> It might resemble a 3d dual cardioid like shape torus thing...
> 
> ;^)


It's not sci-fi...I'm baseing it on...Observation! When the big bang occured, and sent all the stars and rocks in
equally different directions..outwards..it formed a circle.

The edge of the circle (i call the ring curvature) is the curvature of the universe...but
beyond the ring..is the ocean flow of the tide of the infinte universe...the flat infinite universe.

I guess you guys can only see up to the...ring.

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#490603

The Starmaker wrote on 18/04/18 17:42:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> 
>> On 4/17/2018 11:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Shape of the Universe.
>>> 
>>> There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or
>>> curved.
>>> 
>>> The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
>>> 
>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will
>>> return and
>>> 
>>> see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
>>> 
>>> But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
>>> 
>>> if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of
>>> the universe...and
>>> 
>>> if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
>>> 
>>> But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
>>> 
>>> But here is the catch..
>>> 
>>> in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass
>>> the curvature..where
>>> 
>>> the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature
>>> 'ring' of the universe.
>>> 
>>> Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a
>>> very large infinite size pizza flat box.
>>> 
>> 
>> total sci-fi ___________
>> 
>> It might resemble a 3d dual cardioid like shape torus thing...
>> 
>> ;^)
> 
> 
> It's not sci-fi...I'm baseing it on...Observation! When the big bang
> occured, and sent all the stars and rocks in equally different
> directions..outwards..it formed a circle.

When the big bang occured, and sent all the stars and rocks in equally 
different directions..outwards ... it formed a SPHERE.

> The edge of the circle (i call the ring curvature) is the curvature
> of the universe...but beyond the ring..is the ocean flow of the tide
> of the infinte universe...the flat infinite universe.
> 
> I guess you guys can only see up to the...ring.

-- 
Daniel

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#490657

Daniel60 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote on 18/04/18 17:42:
> > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 4/17/2018 11:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The Shape of the Universe.
> >>>
> >>> There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or
> >>> curved.
> >>>
> >>> The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
> >>>
> >>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will
> >>> return and
> >>>
> >>> see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
> >>>
> >>> But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
> >>>
> >>> if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of
> >>> the universe...and
> >>>
> >>> if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
> >>>
> >>> But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
> >>>
> >>> But here is the catch..
> >>>
> >>> in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass
> >>> the curvature..where
> >>>
> >>> the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature
> >>> 'ring' of the universe.
> >>>
> >>> Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a
> >>> very large infinite size pizza flat box.
> >>>
> >>
> >> total sci-fi ___________
> >>
> >> It might resemble a 3d dual cardioid like shape torus thing...
> >>
> >> ;^)
> >
> >
> > It's not sci-fi...I'm baseing it on...Observation! When the big bang
> > occured, and sent all the stars and rocks in equally different
> > directions..outwards..it formed a circle.
> 
> When the big bang occured, and sent all the stars and rocks in equally
> different directions..outwards ... it formed a SPHERE.


I'm not familiar with pizzas in the shape of spheres...not do i know how
you get one in a pizza box.


> 
> > The edge of the circle (i call the ring curvature) is the curvature
> > of the universe...but beyond the ring..is the ocean flow of the tide
> > of the infinte universe...the flat infinite universe.
> >
> > I guess you guys can only see up to the...ring.
> 
> --
> Daniel

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#490599

> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> 
> see the back of your head. 

If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.


> Because the universe is curved.

Yet to be shown.

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#490623

SolomonW wrote:
> 
> > If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >
> > see the back of your head.
> 
> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
> 
> > Because the universe is curved.
> 
> Yet to be shown.


You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'. 

It goes around in a curve...

I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..


you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie

you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."

She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"



The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.

Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.


The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.


It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...


it's called, "We're expanding!"

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#490659

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> SolomonW wrote:
>> 
>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
>>>
>>> see the back of your head.
>> 
>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
>> 
>>> Because the universe is curved.
>> 
>> Yet to be shown.
> 
> 
> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'. 
> 
> It goes around in a curve...
> 
> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
> 
> 
> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
> 
> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
> 
> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
> 
> 
> 
> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
> 
> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
> 
> 
> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
> 
> 
> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
> 
> 
> it's called, "We're expanding!"

How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
speed.

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#490759

SolomonW wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > SolomonW wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >>>
> >>> see the back of your head.
> >>
> >> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
> >>
> >>> Because the universe is curved.
> >>
> >> Yet to be shown.
> >
> >
> > You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'.
> >
> > It goes around in a curve...
> >
> > I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
> >
> >
> > you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
> >
> > you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
> >
> > She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
> >
> >
> >
> > The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
> >
> > Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
> >
> >
> > The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
> >
> >
> > It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
> >
> >
> > it's called, "We're expanding!"
> 
> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
> speed.


The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are
standing...it's curved.



It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle
all the way down.


And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any
circle...

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#490826

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:51:09 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> SolomonW wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>>> SolomonW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
>>>>>
>>>>> see the back of your head.
>>>>
>>>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
>>>>
>>>>> Because the universe is curved.
>>>>
>>>> Yet to be shown.
>>>
>>>
>>> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'.
>>>
>>> It goes around in a curve...
>>>
>>> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
>>>
>>>
>>> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
>>>
>>> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
>>>
>>> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
>>>
>>> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
>>>
>>>
>>> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
>>>
>>>
>>> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
>>>
>>>
>>> it's called, "We're expanding!"
>> 
>> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
>> speed.
> 
> 
> The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are
> standing...it's curved.
> 
> 
> 
> It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle
> all the way down.
> 
> 
> And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any
> circle...

I believe you and maybe you should educate yourself.

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#490833

SolomonW wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:51:09 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > SolomonW wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >>> SolomonW wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> see the back of your head.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Because the universe is curved.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yet to be shown.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'.
> >>>
> >>> It goes around in a curve...
> >>>
> >>> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
> >>>
> >>> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
> >>>
> >>> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
> >>>
> >>> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> it's called, "We're expanding!"
> >>
> >> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
> >> speed.
> >
> >
> > The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are
> > standing...it's curved.
> >
> >
> >
> > It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle
> > all the way down.
> >
> >
> > And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any
> > circle...
> 
> I believe you and maybe you should educate yourself.


Earth goes around in circles...it doesn't need the speed of light..

Why don't you explain how Earth goes around in circles if the ring is expanding greater then light
 speed? 

curious minds want to know.

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#490859

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:25:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> SolomonW wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:51:09 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>>> SolomonW wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SolomonW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> see the back of your head.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because the universe is curved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet to be shown.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'.
>>>>>
>>>>> It goes around in a curve...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
>>>>>
>>>>> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
>>>>>
>>>>> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

(a)
>>>>> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it's called, "We're expanding!"
>>>>
>>>> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
>>>> speed.
>>>
>>>
>>> The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are
>>> standing...it's curved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle
>>> all the way down.
>>>
>>>
>>> And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any
>>> circle...
>> 
>> I believe you and maybe you should educate yourself.
> 
> 
> Earth goes around in circles...it doesn't need the speed of light..
> 
> Why don't you explain how Earth goes around in circles if the ring is expanding greater then light
>  speed? 
> 
> curious minds want to know.

see (a) above your circle is clearly the edge of the universe.

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#490883

SolomonW wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:25:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > SolomonW wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:51:09 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >>> SolomonW wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> SolomonW wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> see the back of your head.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Because the universe is curved.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yet to be shown.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It goes around in a curve...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> 
> (a)
> >>>>> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it's called, "We're expanding!"
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light
> >>>> speed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are
> >>> standing...it's curved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle
> >>> all the way down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any
> >>> circle...
> >>
> >> I believe you and maybe you should educate yourself.
> >
> >
> > Earth goes around in circles...it doesn't need the speed of light..
> >
> > Why don't you explain how Earth goes around in circles if the ring is expanding greater then light
> >  speed?
> >
> > curious minds want to know.
> 
> see (a) above your circle is clearly the edge of the universe.


Yes, it is clearly the edge of the universe...but I wrote already:


"The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space." That means..


that which yous call the big bang is actually your universe...encircled,

inside the pizza box!!!!

The pizza box is the 'steady state universe'..and inside is your...pizza! (that which you call the big bang is your encircled universe, the actual pizza)


Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...


it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.

He just made a mistake, that's all. I'm correcting his mistake! 

He shoulda just said the big bang occured *inside* the steady state universe.

Instead, he threw out the 'steady state' to fit his theory.


You know...what Einstein always said, 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'



Your job today is to correct the mistakes others have made in the past...and you move forward.

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#490888

On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...
> 
> 
> it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.

Actually he changed his theory to fit the facts as he saw it. We all do
that as you are too.

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#490893

SolomonW wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...
> >
> >
> > it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.
> 
> Actually he changed his theory to fit the facts as he saw it. We all do
> that as you are too.



You got your...timeline of events wrong. Einstein came out with steady state in 1931, and relativity in 1905 and 1915.




So, what theory did he change and when?

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#490894

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> SolomonW wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...
> > >
> > >
> > > it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.
> >
> > Actually he changed his theory to fit the facts as he saw it. We all do
> > that as you are too.
> 
> You got your...timeline of events wrong. Einstein came out with steady state in 1931, and relativity in 1905 and 1915.
> 
> So, what theory did he change and when?


and yous people got this "red-shift" allllll wrong..

it's not caused by rapid expanion..

it simply losing energy.

And if you know your Colors, Red is the first to go when energy is lost...


the further the sistance...the more red you lose.

It simply...fading.


NOT STUPID RAPID EXPANSION!


stupid, stupid, stupid are all your textboks and college professors.


stay out of skool and you might learn something.

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#490895

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > SolomonW wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.
> > >
> > > Actually he changed his theory to fit the facts as he saw it. We all do
> > > that as you are too.
> >
> > You got your...timeline of events wrong. Einstein came out with steady state in 1931, and relativity in 1905 and 1915.
> >
> > So, what theory did he change and when?
> 
> and yous people got this "red-shift" allllll wrong..
> 
> it's not caused by rapid expanion..
> 
> it simply losing energy.
> 
> And if you know your Colors, Red is the first to go when energy is lost...
> 
> the further the sistance...the more red you lose.
> 
> It simply...fading.
> 
> NOT STUPID RAPID EXPANSION!
> 
> stupid, stupid, stupid are all your textboks and college professors.
> 
> stay out of skool and you might learn something.


...and of course, there is no... singularity.


You don't actually believe you can form new galaxies while the universe expands, do you???


Throw you science book in the garbage can where it belongs...


Now, let me explain the origin of   Gravity...

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#490897

On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:13:55 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> SolomonW wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>>> Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem...
>>>
>>>
>>> it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory.
>> 
>> Actually he changed his theory to fit the facts as he saw it. We all do
>> that as you are too.
> 
> 
> 
> You got your...timeline of events wrong. Einstein came out with steady state in 1931, and relativity in 1905 and 1915.
> 
> 

I do not think so, 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant

"Einstein included the cosmological constant as a term in his field
equations for general relativity because he was dissatisfied that otherwise
his equations did not allow, apparently, for a static universe: gravity
would cause a universe that was initially at dynamic equilibrium to
contract. To counteract this possibility, Einstein added the cosmological
constant"


> 
> 
> So, what theory did he change and when?

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#490621

Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 1:36:51 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Shape of the Universe.
> >
> > There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or curved.
> >
> > The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
> >
> > If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> >
> > see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
> >
> > But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
> >
> > if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of the universe...and
> >
> > if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
> >
> > But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
> >
> > But here is the catch..
> >
> > in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass the curvature..where
> >
> > the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature 'ring' of the universe.
> >
> > Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a very large infinite size pizza flat box.
> 
> Please clarify exactly what you mean by the universe being curved.  The planet Earth is curved.  The Moon is curved.  Women are curved.


The pizza in the box is curved all around.

Didn't you bother to look into the box?

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#490624

On 4/18/2018 2:36 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Shape of the Universe.
> 
> There seems to be a question whether the universe if flat or curved.
> 
> The answer is very simple..the universe is both flat and curved.
> 
> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and
> 
> see the back of your head. Because the universe is curved.
> 
> But the flat part of the curved universe can easily be seen...
> 
> if you look down, or go down you will quickly hit the floor of the universe...and
> 
> if you go up, you can touch the top of the universe.
> 
> But if you move at eye level straight, it curves.
> 
> But here is the catch..
> 
> in order to get pass the curvature of the universe to get pass the curvature..where
> 
> the universe is infinite, you need to get pass the curvature 'ring' of the universe.
> 
> Just simply picture a medium size pizza (with pepperoni) inside a very large infinite size pizza flat box.
> 
Faker, this is utter babbling drool. You are NEVER going to have a clue 
about science and math.You just babble one like Mitch figuring that if 
you can make as little sense as possible people will mistake it for the 
hard to understand theories of Einstein. Sorry, Faker but people who 
understand science will spot your babble right away. The only people you 
are fooling are people dumber than yourself. (which isn't many)

Only human stupidity is known to be infinite.

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