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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-11-23 08:49 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-11-24 09:29 -0600 |
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Climatgate The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-23 08:49 -0800
Re: Climatgate The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-23 21:05 -0800
Re: Climatgate Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-24 09:29 -0600
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 08:49 -0800 |
| Subject | Climatgate |
| Message-ID | <5835C8AF.F93@ix.netcom.com> |
“I view Climategate as science fraud, pure and simple,” said noted Princeton Physicist Dr. Robert Austin http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/22/watch-read-7th-anniversary-of-climategate-the-un-top-scientists-exposed-see-morano-debating-in-2009-2010/ ..the fraud never ends does it? The first thing that needs to be done is take out 'Science class' from skools. It's like taking a class in Witchcraft. How many planets are there in our solar system? https://www.google.com/#q=how+many+planets+are+there+in+our+solar+system First answer reads 9. What number You came up with??? 8? There is only one planet in our solar system....it's fuckin EARTH! Get it right! Anything else is Science Fraud. When does Life begin? When you see a tree. If a rock the shape of a ball doesn't have any water on it or a tree, it's not a fuckin planet!!!! How many planets are there in our solar system? If you cannot answer that question correctly...somebody is lying to you, that's why. Your fuckin stupid Science teacher.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 21:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5836752B.6D97@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #457958 |
JanPB wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:50:01 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > “I view Climategate as science fraud, pure and simple,†said noted Princeton Physicist Dr. Robert Austin > > > > > > http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/22/watch-read-7th-anniversary-of-climategate-the-un-top-scientists-exposed-see-morano-debating-in-2009-2010/ > > Crackpot web site. > Jan Looks like a crackpot against crackpot... I cannot tell these science crackpots apart... they all call each other...crackpots. It's a crackpot war here...
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| From | Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-24 09:29 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <o1710n$epc$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #458070 |
On 11/23/2016 11:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > JanPB wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:50:01 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker >> wrote: >>> “I view Climategate as science fraud, pure and simple,†said >>> noted Princeton Physicist Dr. Robert Austin >>> >>> >>> http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/22/watch-read-7th-anniversary-of-climategate-the-un-top-scientists-exposed-see-morano-debating-in-2009-2010/ >> The >>> dossier of computer programs in the Climategate documents is far from complete – programs from Tim Osborn and Ian Harris are in the dossier, but not programs from either Keith Briffa or Phil Jones. In the directory osborn-tree6, the program science99_fig1.pro both by its name and contents appears to be the program that was used to produce the figure in Briffa and Osborn(Science 1999) – see here for example, though the program in the Climategate zip file is not dated until Feb 16, 2000, about 9 months after the publication of the article. But there’s an apparent curious inconsistency between the program in Osborn’s archive and the figure as published in Science (Update Mar 23 pm – reader PaulM has now traced the implementation of the deletion of pre-1550 back further).. Here’s the section of code in which the Briffa reconstruction is retrieved: 2: begin ; Age-banded MXD alltit=”Age-banded density NH growing-season reconstruction” ; Period to consider perst=1402 peren=1960 fac=0.0 ; do not smooth it any further!!! ; restore,filename=’../treeharry/densadj_all(330).idlsave’ ; timey=x ; ; CONVERSION FACTORS FOR AGE-BANDED MXD, BY REGRESSION ON INSTR. ; ts=densadj*0.156525 ; converts it from density to temperature anom timey=newagetime ts=newagets kl=where((timey ge perst) and (timey le peren),nyr) timey=timey(kl) ts=ts(kl) ; ts=ts(kl)-0.140369 ; to convert it oC wrt 1961-90 end The start period for the reconstruction in the code is 1402 (the start of the magenta portion), rather than 1550 – the start of the Briffa version in the actual graphic. It’s therefore evident that they had, at one time, plotted the Science 1999 spaghetti graph showing data before 1550, but elected to delete the pre-1550 data as well as the post-1960 data. I presume that there is another version of this program (with the corresponding line reading perst=1550) that was used to generate the figure in the Science article. It’s odd that it isn’t in the Osborn archive. Update Mar 23 pm: – PaluM observes that the deletion of the pre-1550 portion can be accomplished through the parameter yrmxd, which proves to come from either the directory bandtempNHsm50_calmultipcr.idlsave or bandtempNHsm50_calmultipcr_NSIBhug.idlsave.
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