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Re: Why are Aliens never black? histree69@yahoo.com - 2016-09-21 17:11 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 20:22 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-21 18:48 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-09-21 21:24 -0600
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-21 21:18 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 05:59 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-22 04:58 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-21 23:16 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 07:35 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-22 13:48 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-22 12:37 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-22 16:19 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-23 00:55 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-23 03:56 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:04 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-25 19:16 -0600
Re: Why are Aliens never black? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-25 21:59 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-26 16:15 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-22 01:20 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-21 18:35 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 18:49 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 21:05 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 12:26 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-25 18:40 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-25 19:47 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-26 16:06 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-27 10:33 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 08:59 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-25 23:50 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-09-26 01:17 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 06:56 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-26 08:46 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-22 04:59 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-25 19:20 -0600
Re: Why are Aliens never black? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-26 01:43 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:38 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-09-30 03:25 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 09:11 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-30 16:39 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 20:36 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-01 11:34 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 08:05 +0200
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 01:02 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-02 08:33 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 19:26 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:11 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 12:13 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 12:43 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 13:18 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-03 12:27 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-02 08:29 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Martin" <martinm@outlook.com> - 2016-10-04 01:37 +0200
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-04 10:33 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 10:36 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-04 14:26 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 15:27 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-04 12:36 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-10-06 08:00 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-04 12:49 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-10-06 08:02 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:10 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 02:12 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 21:27 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 05:44 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 23:00 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 09:19 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 05:16 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 09:30 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 05:47 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 12:15 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 10:01 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 20:15 +0000
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-07 17:25 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 07:30 +0200
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-08 07:24 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-08 10:54 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Beam Me Up Scotty <Not-Sure-For-President@Idiocracy.gov> - 2016-10-08 18:57 -0400
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-08 18:50 -0500
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-08 12:32 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-08 14:42 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-06 18:19 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-25 19:44 -0700
Re: Why are Aliens never black? "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-09-25 17:02 +0100
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-06 12:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F6A1A7.6B80@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453130 |
William December Starr wrote: > > In article <Zq6dnR53daIudm7KnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, > "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> said: > > > "Martin" wrote in message > > > >> How does that explain the predisposition of brown "people of color" to rob > >> liquor stores, rape white women and shoot police officers? > >> > >> Without negroes or hispanics, your country is free of crime. > > > > Why there are no black aliens: http://i.imgur.com/ZezwgQJ.png > > Seriously, what diseased rocks _do_ all these five-year-olds crawl > out from under? > > -- wds Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". does that answer your question???? Get rid of all the white people...and you're free of racism. maybe build an atomic bomb that kills only white people... not japaneese people, white people...the white devils.. the lighter than blue people.. not the dark people...the light people. Racism is A Disease of White People. --Albert Einstein The smartest guy in the world knows what the fuck he's talking about, don't he? He built the bomb to kill German people, what color were they??? Blond hair, blue eyes...sounds like White people to me. http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 02:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnve13s.sds.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453168 |
The Starmaker wrote: ----snip---- > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, then he was a racist. ----snip---- Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-06 21:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F7243C.60E9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453229 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > ----snip---- > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > then he was a racist. I don't get what you're saying, ...why does that make Einstein a racist????
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 05:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnvedi1.6ro.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453239 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > then he was a racist. > > I don't get what you're saying, ...why does that make Einstein > a racist???? Read it again: "It's a racist statement". How could you miss that? Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-06 23:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F73A13.46C6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453257 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > > then he was a racist. > > > > I don't get what you're saying, ...why does that make Einstein > > a racist???? > > Read it again: "It's a racist statement". How could you miss that? > > Ned I'm not that smart...I don't get it..why does that make Einstein a racist???? Can you elaborate? Can you expand on it? Can you explain in detail why Albert Einstein making that statement... makes Einstein a racist?
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 09:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnveq5g.bv5.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453258 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > > > then he was a racist. > > > > > > I don't get what you're saying, ...why does that make Einstein > > > a racist???? > > > > Read it again: "It's a racist statement". How could you miss that? > > I'm not that smart... Seems you're smart enough to recognise that you're not smart. That's a start. Just keep thinking: you'll get there. Maybe. ----snip----
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 05:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3261320ec522542498a5e4@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #453229 |
In article <slrnnve13s.sds.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>, nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz says... > > The Starmaker wrote: > > ----snip---- > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > then he was a racist. Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally not considered to be "racist".
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 09:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnveqou.bv5.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453267 |
J. Clarke wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > then he was a racist. > > Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally > not considered to be "racist". And that's just Political Correctness bullshit, aimed at obfuscating the hypocrisy of accepting Afro-American racism. Ned
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 05:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32613935a336b4aa98a5e7@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #453269 |
In article <slrnnveqou.bv5.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>, nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz says... > > J. Clarke wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > > then he was a racist. > > > > Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally > > not considered to be "racist". > > And that's just Political Correctness bullshit, aimed at obfuscating > the hypocrisy of accepting Afro-American racism. The real "political correctness" is seeing racism under every rock. IMO people who do that are loons and I am bored with dealing with loons, so <plonk>
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 12:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnvf4f0.h9o.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453270 |
J. Clarke wrote: > Med Latham wrote: > > J. Clarke wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > > > then he was a racist. > > > > > > Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally > > > not considered to be "racist". > > > > And that's just Political Correctness bullshit, aimed at obfuscating > > the hypocrisy of accepting Afro-American racism. > > The real "political correctness" is seeing racism under every rock. Wrong. That's *a* real Political Correctness. Another is the one I pointed out to you. People who recognise the one and posture over the other are hypocrites, not worth shitting on. ----prejudicial bullshit snipped----
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 10:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F7D4F0.358D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453267 |
J. Clarke wrote: > > In article <slrnnve13s.sds.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>, > nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz says... > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > then he was a racist. > > Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally not > considered to be "racist". Let me make something clear to everyone once and for all... Albert Einstein 'did not' make disparaging remarks about his own ethnicity here because Albert Winstein is not White, he's Jewish! Albert Einstein belongs to the Jewish Race, not the White Race. for further information: In May 1987 the United States Supreme Court handed down its decision that Jews are a "race" for purposes of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, 481 U.S. 615, 617-18 (1987) and here is a conversation plus the video: Here's a transcript from 60 minutes where you can read Mike Wallace saying he's Jewish, not White: (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MIKE WALLACE, CBS`s "60 MINUTES": Black History Month, you find... MORGAN FREEMAN, ACTOR: Ridiculous. WALLACE: Why? FREEMAN: You`re going to relegate my history to a month? WALLACE: Come on. FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me. WALLACE: I`m Jewish. FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month? WALLACE: There isn`t one. FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one? WALLACE: No, no. FREEMAN: I don`t either. I don`t want a Black History Month. Black history is American history. WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until...? FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I`m going to stop calling you a white man. And I`m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You`re not going to say, "I know this white guy named Mike Wallace." Hear what I`m saying? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnTovm26I4 So, when Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People"...he was talking about White people, not himself cause he knows that he is not White, he is Jewish, of the Jewish race..not of the White or Black race. I hope that helps. The Starmaker
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 20:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnvg0ij.stt.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #453285 |
The Starmaker wrote: > J. Clarke wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > Albert Einstein Called Racism "A Disease of White People". > > > > > > It's a racist statement: if it's true that Einstein said it, > > > then he was a racist. > > > > Making disparaging remarks about your own ethnicity is generally > > not considered to be "racist". And that's just Political Correctness bullshit, aimed at obfuscating the hypocrisy of accepting Afro-American racism. > Let me make something clear to everyone once and for all... > > Albert Einstein 'did not' make disparaging remarks about his own > ethnicity here because Albert Winstein is not White, He was wheb he was alive. > he's Jewish! That too. > Albert Einstein belongs to the Jewish Race, not the White Race. There is no such thing as a Jewish race. > for further information: > > In May 1987 the United States Supreme Court handed down its decision > that Jews are a "race" for purposes of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. More Political Correctness bulldhit. The Jews are a religious group. > Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, 481 U.S. 615, 617-18 (1987) Fuck the US Supreme Court. PC bullshit is PC bullshit no matter *who* says it. There's just one thong you need to know in this matter: if it's correctly described as "Politically Correct", then it's INcorrect. Ned
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| From | "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 17:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3_2dnayWYYFFvWXKnZ2dnUU7-bXNnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #453305 |
"Ned Latham" wrote in message news:slrnnvg0ij.stt.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz... > > There's just one thong you need to know in this matter: if it's correctly > described as "Politically Correct", then it's INcorrect. Dear people who think only White people are racist, There's a black history month. If there was a White history month, that would be considered racist. There are Facebook pages titled, "I love being black!" if there was an "I love being White!" one, that would be racist. There are scholarships for college you can receive simply by being black. I don't see any scholarships for being White. It's not okay for a White person to call a black person the N word, but it's perfectly acceptable to call a White person a "cracker." Sincerely, you're NOT entitled to everything because you're black... Also: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-think-that-only-white-people-can-be-racist https://www.quora.com/Can-Black-Americans-be-racist-against-white-people
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 07:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e5rej7FucbgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #453313 |
Am 08.10.2016 00:25, schrieb Byker: > "Ned Latham" wrote in message > news:slrnnvg0ij.stt.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz... >> >> There's just one thong you need to know in this matter: if it's >> correctly described as "Politically Correct", then it's INcorrect. > > Dear people who think only White people are racist, > > There's a black history month. If there was a White history month, that > would be considered racist. There are Facebook pages titled, "I love > being black!" if there was an "I love being White!" one, that would be > racist. There are scholarships for college you can receive simply by > being black. I don't see any scholarships for being White. It's not okay > for a White person to call a black person the N word, but it's perfectly > acceptable to call a White person a "cracker." > > Sincerely, you're NOT entitled to everything because you're black... African people are not black, but more like dark brown. The colour is caused by the skin pigment 'Melanin'. This is what makes skin and eyes brown . The hair is getting its colour from Melanin, too. The amount of melanin is different among 'races', if you regard the skin colour as criterium for 'race'. The term 'race' is in fact a misnomer, since it was derived from horse-breading and similar activities. Human beings are often clustered among large groups, that share some sort of similarities. But African people are extremely pluriform in a lot of features (besides the amount of melanin), which would not allow to call them 'a race'. 'White people' are - of course - not white neither. Their skin is also brown, but with much less melanin. TH
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 07:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <506cab7b-4182-4674-9fa9-fb5fe7377e67@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #453343 |
On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 11:30:18 PM UTC-6, Thomas Heger wrote: > But African people are extremely pluriform in a lot of features (besides > the amount of melanin), which would not allow to call them 'a race'. From a cladistic point of view, indeed, the only race sub-Saharan Africans, and their proximate descendants who live elsewhere, called "black" for short, is the human race. But European "whites", on the other hand have their pink to light brown skin as a shared derived characteristic - they're descended from a single tribe of Africans who left that continent long ago. Of course, though, East Indians, even though their skin is dark, also belong to that same race. Orientals - that is, East Asians; the Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans, and other kindred people, are also a subgroup distinguished by shared derived characteristics. The evidence, though, proves that even if there are real entities that can loosely be called races among Man, they are all fundamentally equal in their genetic endowments for intelligence and for basic traits of temperament that are conducive to moral and civilized behavior. Whites aren't more evolved than Africans, or anything else like that. People who have lived among the Australian Aborigines have come back remarking on their feats of intelligence and memory in coping with their environment - and if there _were_ an inferior race around, they would be it, sharing the smallest average brain size with the Pygmies, but also having normal stature. Unfortunately, though, racism and racial stereotypes have some basis in reality, otherwise they wouldn't be so persistent and troubling. Thus, for cultural reasons, the Chinese and the Jews both view studying hard in school as an affirmation of their own identity, rather than knuckling under to "the Man" - and, as a result, have done well in spite of discrimination. And, while no one race or culture has a monopoly on persecuting outsiders, abolishing institutionalized inequality, and progressing to being able to see things through the other person's eyes seems to be particularly hard in the Islamic world. Which is why it is still outraged at the existence of Israel, and why a culture of entitlement festers there which has fed terrorism. And, yes, the Islamic world _does_ mirror some of the flaws of us European- descended people of the industrialized world. But at the moment, we are rather well-fed lions, rather than feeling deprived of our rightful position at the top of the heap, and so we're not *currently* producing a lot of terrorists. Also, discovering the Holocaust at the end of World War II has had a certain impact on our culture, leading to it questioning, and actually doing something about, racial inequality... something almost unique in history. Also, there are some genetic differences between human subgroups which are going to have tragic consequences, making it harder than we might hope to achieve full equality, including economic equality - which is necessary to a tranquil multiracial society. Europeans and other groups have had to cope with unsatisfactory water supplies, so since the days of Egypt and Babylon, they had turned to fairly weak beer or wine, rather than water, as their normal drink. Indigenous people, who had pristine streams to drink from, didn't develop the unusual ability to metabolize alcohol that the urbanized groups have - and so we have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, and the social ills that result from a drug as potent as heroin to an impoverished subgroup being legal. And cultures that lived simple lives in harmony with nature, and who lacked a written language... had no reason to select against *learning disabilities* like ADHD and dyslexia. So one _may_ find that trying to take Native Americans up the Booker T. Washington path to full equality is doomed to failure. For now, providing them with opportunities to become carpenters or steelworkers is providing enough equality that it usefully addresses social ills, but as the economy becomes more and more post-industrial, in the future book-learning might become the only path to a reasonable steady income. And people who are equal in intelligence might still be denied access to the academic world because of learning disabilities, and those, unlike intelligence, may be differentially distributed by ethnic ancestry. Which doesn't mean the bigots are right, but it does mean that those who seek equality may have to set aside sanguine optimism, as they may have more work ahead of them than they expect. John Savard
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| From | "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 10:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o9-dnV0LBqY5i2TKnZ2dnUU7-dfNnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #453343 |
"Thomas Heger" wrote in message news:e5rej7FucbgU1@mid.individual.net... Am 08.10.2016 00:25, schrieb Byker: >> >> Sincerely, you're NOT entitled to everything because you're black... > > African people are not black, but more like dark brown. > > The colour is caused by the skin pigment 'Melanin'. This is what makes > skin and eyes brown . The hair is getting its colour from Melanin, too. > > The amount of melanin is different among 'races', if you regard the skin > colour as criterium for 'race'. > > The term 'race' is in fact a misnomer, since it was derived from > horse-breading and similar activities. > > Human beings are often clustered among large groups, that share some sort > of similarities. > > But African people are extremely pluriform in a lot of features (besides > the amount of melanin), which would not allow to call them 'a race'. > > 'White people' are - of course - not white neither. Their skin is also > brown, but with much less melanin. DUH! "Colour" has little to do with it. It's what Dr. Martin Luther King called "content of character," black behavior that these days would make the reverend spin in his grave: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N3UkulB6DcY/hqdefault.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfQvQk-dMGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDHa31HiaQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY12O-BSvFU or http://www.tubechop.com/chop/JY12O-BSvFU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC965E4B6Ls http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=595_1471182513 Sounds like you're in dire need of a TNB experience: http://tinyurl.com/hv69uyt Hopefully you'll survive to learn something from it Come over to our side of the pond sometime and take an innocent stroll through an urban "historic district" with a Nikon around your neck...
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| From | Beam Me Up Scotty <Not-Sure-For-President@Idiocracy.gov> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 18:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <TReKz.142597$Wg2.106155@fx06.iad> |
| In reply to | #453366 |
Darwinism.... we are all evolving to be gray...
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That's Karma
*Rumination*
127 - *The main point of the 2nd amendment is that* "the security of a
free state" relies on the militia and the militia relies on the RIGHT of
the people to keep and bear arms. And that right is secured by "shall
NOT be infringed".
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| From | "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 18:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a--dnQ-ZuPinG2TKnZ2dnUU7-fvNnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #453419 |
"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in message news:TReKz.142597$Wg2.106155@fx06.iad... > > Darwinism.... we are all evolving to be gray... I wonder if gorilla noses, brillo hair, moose lips, and bubble booties will also evolve into something worthwhile. Anyone who has seen an albino African knows how trivial a racial difference skin color really is: http://www.sharenator.com/Albino_africans/ If the past is any indicator, negroids still have a long way to go before catching up with the rest of us: http://tinyurl.com/gpzercb They haven't changed much in the last million years...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 12:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F949CF.67D2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453343 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am 08.10.2016 00:25, schrieb Byker: > > "Ned Latham" wrote in message > > news:slrnnvg0ij.stt.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz... > >> > >> There's just one thong you need to know in this matter: if it's > >> correctly described as "Politically Correct", then it's INcorrect. > > > > Dear people who think only White people are racist, > > > > There's a black history month. If there was a White history month, that > > would be considered racist. There are Facebook pages titled, "I love > > being black!" if there was an "I love being White!" one, that would be > > racist. There are scholarships for college you can receive simply by > > being black. I don't see any scholarships for being White. It's not okay > > for a White person to call a black person the N word, but it's perfectly > > acceptable to call a White person a "cracker." > > > > Sincerely, you're NOT entitled to everything because you're black... > > African people are not black, but more like dark brown. > > The colour is caused by the skin pigment 'Melanin'. This is what makes > skin and eyes brown . The hair is getting its colour from Melanin, too. > > The amount of melanin is different among 'races', if you regard the skin > colour as criterium for 'race'. > > The term 'race' is in fact a misnomer, since it was derived from > horse-breading and similar activities. > > Human beings are often clustered among large groups, that share some > sort of similarities. > > But African people are extremely pluriform in a lot of features (besides > the amount of melanin), which would not allow to call them 'a race'. > > 'White people' are - of course - not white neither. Their skin is also > brown, but with much less melanin. > > TH What causes the 'racial' tension if you will, are simply.. natural forces of nature. If you put your foot on ice..you're going to slip and slide and fall. The preasure of the foot on the ice causes the ice to melt and it gets slippery. Put a mark fuhrman in a jail cell with a black guy, and attach wires to their brains and measure the...tension between them, and view it on a computer screen...what would you see? Of course you got to hurry and record the electrods cause one of them is going to die....
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 14:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F9682D.6DDE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #453381 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am 08.10.2016 21:32, schrieb The Starmaker: > > >>> Sincerely, you're NOT entitled to everything because you're black... > >> > >> African people are not black, but more like dark brown. > >> > >> The colour is caused by the skin pigment 'Melanin'. This is what makes > >> skin and eyes brown . The hair is getting its colour from Melanin, too. > >> > >> The amount of melanin is different among 'races', if you regard the skin > >> colour as criterium for 'race'. > >> > >> The term 'race' is in fact a misnomer, since it was derived from > >> horse-breading and similar activities. > >> > >> Human beings are often clustered among large groups, that share some > >> sort of similarities. > >> > >> But African people are extremely pluriform in a lot of features (besides > >> the amount of melanin), which would not allow to call them 'a race'. > >> > >> 'White people' are - of course - not white neither. Their skin is also > >> brown, but with much less melanin. > >> > >> TH > > > > What causes the 'racial' tension if you will, are simply.. natural forces of nature. > > Well, in nine out of ten cases we have poverty, greed and violence, > spiced with jealousy and stupidity. I wan't talking about 'social forces'. I was talking about..physics, laws of physics..magnetic forces, electrial forces.. > > The USA should spend less on wars, but more on somehow functioning > welfare programs. > > This has a lot of advantages, since if people have a home and something > to eat, they are much less likely willing to rob a gas station or similar. > > Criminality is very expensive for the society and also not really an > enhancement of life. > > Same with drugs: if the drug business would be less attractive, you > would have much less trouble with it. > > So the best way to avoid trouble is to make drugs cheap, but still illegal. > > And the best way to deal with the 'race problem' would be to ignore skin > colour altogether. > > There are enough other features, which you could eventually like (or > dislike). > > TH you seeing too many trees...step back a little (or alot in your case) > What causes the 'racial' tension if you will, are simply.. natural forces of nature. > > If you put your foot on ice..you're going to slip and slide and fall. > > The preasure of the foot on the ice causes the ice to melt and it gets slippery. if you rub two sticks together, you get fire. Some people get rubbed the wrong way... In other words, don't shoot Black people just because they are Black.. you're likely to start a fire. The solution...don't step on the ice.
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