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  past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 15:54 -0700
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 16:59 -0700
      Re: past,present,future "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-01 18:30 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 18:59 -0700
          Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 22:46 -0700
            Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 10:01 -0700
              Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 21:20 -0700
                Re: past,present,future "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-02 22:26 -0700
                  Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 22:46 -0700
                    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 00:15 -0700
                      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 20:55 -0700
                        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 22:17 -0700
                          Re: past,present,future Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-05-04 04:16 -0700
                        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-08 22:36 -0700
                          Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-09 21:21 -0700
                            Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-11 13:35 -0700
    Re: past,present,future David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2016-05-02 20:29 -0600
      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 19:11 -0700
      Re: past,present,future Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-05-03 02:15 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 20:50 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 22:44 -0700
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-04 23:08 -0700
      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 09:40 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 23:24 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 11:13 -0700
      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 11:11 -0700
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 23:30 -0700

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#439536

Robert Carnegie wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:29:09 UTC+1, David Staup  wrote:
> > On 5/1/2016 4:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > let me
> > > put it
> > > this way..
> > >
> > > if the past doesn't exist..
> > > and the future does not exist
> > >
> > > what makes think the Present exist?
> > >
> > observation you fucking idiot
> 
> Starmaker is motivated by hatred of Einstein and all other
> Jews, but he doesn't know of many Jews, so he concentrates
> mainly on Einstein.  This is what he's really saying.
> 
> I didn't get Starmaker a present and I expect no one else
> did either.

You need to control your anti-semitic impules...get a hold of yourself.

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#439608

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 5/1/16 5:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > if the past doesn't exist..
> > and the future does not exist
> >
> 
>    If you look at this diagram,
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg
> 
>    You will notice that event are basically in the future or the past.
>    What we think of as now, is usually always in the past.
>


Poor Sam Wormley...he  doesn't no longer know what Now is so he has to
look it up.


The truth is...you are not going to find the answer on the internet..

nobody knows what Now is.

the past doesn't exist
the future doesn't 

the present...What is the present?


Are you here now??

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#439620

The past does not exist
'The present does not exist'
The future does not exist
The Now does not exist

Time does not exist.


Just imagine..no Time.

I can describe exactly
what 'no time' looks like.


Just 'imagine'..no Time.

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#439661

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 5/5/16 11:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The past does not exist
> 
>    WWII left some pretty permanent changes.
> 
>    And, how about all that CO2 belched in the atmosphere over the
>    last 50 years.


It simply does not 'flow' in time.

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#439684

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The past does not exist
> 'The present does not exist'
> The future does not exist
> The Now does not exist
> 
> Time does not exist.
> 
> Just imagine..no Time.
> 
> I can describe exactly
> what 'no time' looks like.
> 
> Just 'imagine'..no Time.


Are yous having differculty 'imagining' a world without time????

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#439683

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> > On 5/5/16 1:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> nobody knows what Now is
> >
> >    Now doesn't even exits.
> 
> Not even wrong.
> 
> And will you *please* stop crossposting (without F'up2)?
> 
> --
> PointedEars



Is there something about seeing a few more Newgroups: on your NewsgroupS: header that bother your pointed ears???



Maybe you can write to usenet and tell them to remove the 's' in your newsreader heading that reads "Newsgroups:"


"Newsgroups" is plural meaning more than one newsgroup. 


getwitheprogramspock

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#439662

Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 8:26:43 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> > On 05/04/2016 09:38 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > On 5/1/16 5:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> if the past doesn't exist..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    If you look at this diagram,
> > >  > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg
> > >
> > >    You will notice that events are basically in the future or the past
> > >
> > >    The "present" is represented by an infinitesimally small point.
> >
> > Sam, since "points" don't exist, clearly nothing is in the "present".
> >
> > So the model fails. One must then ask how much time it takes for
> > consciousness to be aware of events? This time is clearly needed for us
> > to be aware of the "present". The only way your model can work is that
> > if consciousness perceives present events instantaneously. Such "action
> > at a distance" does not seem to exist in physics though the QM guys are
> > starting to argue that it does.
> 
> Time goes back forever, space goes on forever.
> 
> The present basically "is" the event.
> 
> There's pretty much a forward arrow of time,
> but it is a direction, not a dimension.  It
> is pretty clearly the significant component
> of "gradient" (which is basically the model
> of the slope that things tend to fall along
> the gradient).
> 
> The future is not fixed, the past quite well
> is, back to the attenuation of time and the
> attenuation of events.  This is where, when
> a tree falls in the forest, it contributes
> to all the background noise there is and no
> sound ever truly goes away, only attenuating
> to indistinguishability.  That's directly
> enough entropy in thermodynamics, with that
> being classical.
> 
> In the relativistic some may not have "absolute
> time" yet still in the total there's a notion
> that there's some "absolute time".  For example,
> the spaceman twins paradox, people tend not to
> note that relative to the accelerating twin,
> the other one is accelerating away, then that
> if the one twin left at light speed, to return,
> it would have to leave where it arrived, then about
> what happens when the spaceman just goes back and
> forth at relativistic velocities.  The "time dilation"
> still sees that there's no going back in time.
> 
> So, "time dilation" may still leave place in the
> theory for "absolute time" just like relativity
> otherwise does for "flat space-time", or, as is
> noted, that the cosmological constant is an
> infinitesimal, and that space-time is more curved
> than any line and flatter than any curve.
> 
> The present is all that exists, but it results
> from events in the past and results in the
> events of the future.
> 
> Then, where all of the past happened somehow,
> you might as well simply have time as another
> dimension, that all of the universe's space
> is basically a picture in time (or "hologram",
> where a diagram fits in less dimensions,
> eventually just one dimension a "continuum").
> 
> Then, it is attenuated to where events in the
> most distant past have the same origin while
> events in the present are "parallel transport",
> with "geometry of time".
> 
> Time goes back forever, space goes on forever.


Space is forever, but it isn't going anywhere.

Time does not exist...you're just have the illusion of time...it appears
to be flowing.

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