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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-09-18 10:50 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-09-23 12:06 -0700 |
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Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 10:50 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 14:53 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:33 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-18 20:03 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:03 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-18 17:13 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:06 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 23:04 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 04:48 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:08 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:43 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:54 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 15:51 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 14:03 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 14:45 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 22:16 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 09:35 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 18:12 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 12:54 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:30 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 22:23 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 17:10 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 01:15 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 22:33 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 03:09 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:45 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 20:17 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 05:35 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 00:20 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 01:20 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 15:28 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 17:22 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 11:31 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:50 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:49 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-23 15:49 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 16:20 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:46 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:53 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 21:31 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:08 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 23:17 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:36 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:34 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 00:00 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 00:06 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 02:16 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 02:42 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 04:57 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 05:23 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 06:13 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 13:18 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-21 14:49 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:24 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 06:14 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics puppetsock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:44 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 00:46 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:09 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:23 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:43 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-19 18:00 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 18:59 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 15:11 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 15:24 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:44 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 18:40 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:18 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 15:54 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:17 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:05 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-20 20:30 -0600
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-21 14:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 19:43 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-22 10:28 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 18:48 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:41 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:03 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:22 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:51 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:29 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:17 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 23:19 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 12:03 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:01 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:06 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 08:24 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 08:29 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 12:04 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:00 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 07:42 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 15:57 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:48 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:27 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 17:27 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 20:53 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:25 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-20 10:52 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 08:30 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 09:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:07 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 16:13 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:21 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 20:17 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 17:28 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:54 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 22:32 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-09-20 06:01 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 11:47 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-20 15:51 -0500
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 16:55 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:56 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:35 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-20 14:10 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 03:31 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:09 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 13:54 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-21 14:55 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:05 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 19:53 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-22 10:30 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 19:07 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-23 14:55 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-23 18:38 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 16:18 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 20:34 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 17:22 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 13:07 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 15:09 -0600
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 13:08 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-21 01:22 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 10:26 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-19 17:51 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 12:59 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-18 17:14 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 23:03 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics patmpowers@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 12:38 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics patmpowers@gmail.com - 2015-09-19 20:40 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Persecute Global Warming Skeptics Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2015-09-22 19:48 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Persecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:06 -0700
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 17:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4f6fa5c-e941-44c1-a4d0-b4145461d372@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423152 |
On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:23:52 PM UTC-6, benj wrote: > Cynical? What I call cynical is your assessment that using a law passed > to fight organized crime to attack corporations selling a legal > federally regulated product like tobacco or guns to further some leftist > Lib agenda isn't a witch-hunt and abuse of power. Hey, Thalidomide was/is a legal prescription drug. But if the company making it deliberately used the threat of libel suits to prevent pregnant women from being aware that there was a risk of it harming their children, criminal investigations - using whatever laws there are to facilitate such investigations - of those responsible aren't a "witch-hunt". Evidence has been found, and is in the public record, that tobacco companies made efforts to confuse and mislead the public about the link between tobacco and lung cancer. Since this was in pursuit of commercial gain, it's not the same as a personal expression of political opinion: they weren't offering ideas to be considered, they were offering lies to ensnare others. John Savard
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 20:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3067cd93513762f3989b4f@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #423172 |
In article <f4f6fa5c-e941-44c1-a4d0-b4145461d372@googlegroups.com>, jsavard@ecn.ab.ca says... > > On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:23:52 PM UTC-6, benj wrote: > > > Cynical? What I call cynical is your assessment that using a law passed > > to fight organized crime to attack corporations selling a legal > > federally regulated product like tobacco or guns to further some leftist > > Lib agenda isn't a witch-hunt and abuse of power. > > Hey, Thalidomide was/is a legal prescription drug. Not in the US it wasn't. > But if the company making it > deliberately used the threat of libel suits to prevent pregnant women from > being aware that there was a risk of it harming their children, criminal > investigations - using whatever laws there are to facilitate such > investigations - of those responsible aren't a "witch-hunt". Since RICO exists only in the US and Thalidomide was not legally for sale in the US, RICO has nothing to do with Thalidomide. Sorry. You picked a bad example. > Evidence has been found, and is in the public record, that tobacco companies > made efforts to confuse and mislead the public about the link between tobacco > and lung cancer. Since this was in pursuit of commercial gain, it's not the > same as a personal expression of political opinion: they weren't offering ideas > to be considered, they were offering lies to ensnare others. So why is RICO necessary? False advertising is illegal without RICO.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 17:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30679cc5b8eceef5989b4a@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #423142 |
In article <1mazvbx.9pua2ougtjk2N%csampson@inetworld.net>, csampson@inetworld.net says... > > J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>, > > csampson@inetworld.net says... > > > > > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > > > You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as > > > > > political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of > > > > > which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored > > > > > method is dropping deniers out Helicopters > > > > > > > > You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as > > > > actually DOING it, right? > > > > > > Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus > > > signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody. > > > It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to > > > conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change to see if > > > they are obfuscating established science for their profit and to the > > > detriment of people in general. as the tobacco companies did. If the > > > investigation concludes that that's what they're doing, prosecution can > > > follow. > > > > > > ... > > > > If there's no intent to prosecute then why investigate? > > They obviously intend to prosecute if the investigation turns up useful > evidence of wrongdoing. Otherwise, as you say, why prosecute? > > > RICO is a witch-hunting tool. Once the investigation starts they're > > going to find a witch whether there is one or not. > > A pretty cynical assessment. RICO was enacted as a tool against > organized crime. It was subsequently discovered that it could be used in > other areas. Such uses have withstood the test of time. So? An injustice "withstanding the test of time" doesn't make it any less an injustice. You argument applies equally well to such institutions as slavery.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 10:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mtmh75$6d8$1@panix3.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #423142 |
In article <1mazvbx.9pua2ougtjk2N%csampson@inetworld.net>, csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) said: > J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> RICO is a witch-hunting tool. Once the investigation starts >> they're going to find a witch whether there is one or not. > > A pretty cynical assessment. RICO was enacted as a tool against > organized crime. It was subsequently discovered that it could be > used in other areas. Such uses have withstood the test of time. Well, they've withstood the test of the appeals courts anyway. -- wds
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| From | anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 08:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <anim8rfsk-BB029E.08301420092015@news.easynews.com> |
| In reply to | #423206 |
In article <mtmh75$6d8$1@panix3.panix.com>, wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > -- wds Hey WDS! (waves) -- SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuu......
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| From | BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 09:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <atropos-3A8F3D.09331019092015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423097 |
In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>, csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote: > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said: > > > > > You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as > > > political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of > > > which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored > > > method is dropping deniers out Helicopters > > > > You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as > > actually DOING it, right? > > Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus > signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody. > It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to > conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change RICO is a criminal statute. If you're under RICO investigation, you're being considered for prosecution. Saying they're not asking for anyone to be prosecuted, just investigated under RICO, is idiotic. > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing, > prosecution can follow. No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.
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| From | csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net> |
| In reply to | #423126 |
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>, > csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote: > > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as > > > > political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of > > > > which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored > > > > method is dropping deniers out Helicopters > > > > > > You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as > > > actually DOING it, right? > > > > Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus > > signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody. > > It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to > > conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change > > RICO is a criminal statute. If you're under RICO investigation, you're > being considered for prosecution. Saying they're not asking for anyone > to be prosecuted, just investigated under RICO, is idiotic. You can't make an even halfway reasonable comment without ruining it with some invective, can you? Of course, they're not going to launch an expesive investigation without suspecting that those being investigated are guilty. I'm pretty sure that if the investigation is unable to find adequate evidence of wrongdoing, the whole effort will stop. > > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing, > > prosecution can follow. > > No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment. As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically. Short form: RICO has been used this way before. Charlie -- Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good. But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory. But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)
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| From | BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 13:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <atropos-A80827.13074519092015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423141 |
In article <1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net>, csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote: > BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > > > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>, > > csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote: > > > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing, > > > prosecution can follow. > > > > No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment. > > As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the > scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against > the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the > harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically. > Short form: RICO has been used this way before. The RICO prosecutions of the tobacco companies were based overwhelmingly on their actions, not their speech, specifically the manipulation of the nicotine delivery of cigarettes, deceptive marketing of regulated products (cigarettes) as "light" or "low tar", and failing to produce safer cigarettes, as they had promised to. Conversely, this new "throw the deniers in jail" movement by the Warmists is based *solely* on their speech and nothing else. The so-called "deniers" aren't marketing regulated products; they aren't failing to live up to a negotiated promise with the government to produce a product of a certain quality; and they haven't falsely manipulated any product in commerce. So the comparison to the RICO case against the tobacco companies fails on multiple levels. This is a proposed prosecution based on nothing but pure speech and disagreement with "the consensus". What's next? Throwing people in jail because they disagree with "the consensus" on Obamacare, because that deprives people of their civil right to health care? Or putting pro-2nd Amendment/gun rights supporters behind bars because the "progressive" intelligentsia has determined that it deprives people of their civil right to be free from violence? Or criminalizing any pro-life speech because it deprives people of their civil rights to an abortion? Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? Statism: Ideas so wonderful, they have to be mandatory!
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 16:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gdgrvatjqvm27su9ssq7tco2jeorvvqdq8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #423147 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:07:45 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net>,
> csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
>> > csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:
>
>> > > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing,
>> > > prosecution can follow.
>> >
>> > No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.
>>
>> As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the
>> scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against
>> the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the
>> harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically.
>> Short form: RICO has been used this way before.
>
>The RICO prosecutions of the tobacco companies were based overwhelmingly
>on their actions, not their speech, specifically the manipulation of the
>nicotine delivery of cigarettes, deceptive marketing of regulated
>products (cigarettes) as "light" or "low tar", and failing to produce
>safer cigarettes, as they had promised to.
>
>Conversely, this new "throw the deniers in jail" movement by the
>Warmists is based *solely* on their speech and nothing else. The
>so-called "deniers" aren't marketing regulated products; they aren't
>failing to live up to a negotiated promise with the government to
>produce a product of a certain quality; and they haven't falsely
>manipulated any product in commerce.
>
>So the comparison to the RICO case against the tobacco companies fails
>on multiple levels. This is a proposed prosecution based on nothing but
>pure speech and disagreement with "the consensus".
>
>What's next? Throwing people in jail because they disagree with "the
>consensus" on Obamacare, because that deprives people of their civil
>right to health care? Or putting pro-2nd Amendment/gun rights supporters
>behind bars because the "progressive" intelligentsia has determined that
>it deprives people of their civil right to be free from violence? Or
>criminalizing any pro-life speech because it deprives people of their
>civil rights to an abortion?
>
>Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
>execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>
>Statism: Ideas so wonderful, they have to be mandatory!
Help! Please don't investigate me for
thinking that greenhouse gases are the primary
cooling mechanism of the atmosphere.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 16:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #423147 |
On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or > execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? Same old lie. Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? -- "Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015
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| From | BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 13:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <atropos-53131D.13335619092015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423149 |
In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > > > Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or > > execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? > > Same old lie. Except it's not. > Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants to..." In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 20:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #423154 |
On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >> >>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or >>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? >> >> Same old lie. > > Except it's not. > >> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? > > In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the > desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants > to..." > > In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists > on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? -- "Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015
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| From | BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 17:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <atropos-69AAFF.17283419092015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423169 |
In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > > > In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >> > >>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or > >>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? > >> > >> Same old lie. > > > > Except it's not. > > > >> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? > > > > In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the > > desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants > > to..." > > > > In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists > > on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. > > You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 00:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #423173 |
On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >> >>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >>>> >>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or >>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? >>>> >>>> Same old lie. >>> >>> Except it's not. >>> >>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? >>> >>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the >>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants >>> to..." >>> >>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists >>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. >> >> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? > > My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you. Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers, and, yet you left him off your list of leftist killers. Did you just forget the worst of the worst? Or didn't you want to admit that the biggest slaughterer wasn't a leftist, but a right wing psychopath? It kind of knocks your premise into a cocked hat...where it belongs. -- "Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015
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| From | BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 22:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <atropos-00E9F0.22324419092015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423190 |
In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > > > In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >> > >>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >>>> > >>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or > >>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? > >>>> > >>>> Same old lie. > >>> > >>> Except it's not. > >>> > >>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? > >>> > >>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the > >>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants > >>> to..." > >>> > >>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists > >>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. > >> > >> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? > > > > My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you. > > Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number. > Did you just forget the worst of the worst? No, 'cause he's not.
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| From | Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 06:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d670ecF5h9mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #423191 |
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >> >>> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >>>> >>>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or >>>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? >>>>>> >>>>>> Same old lie. >>>>> >>>>> Except it's not. >>>>> >>>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? >>>>> >>>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the >>>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants >>>>> to..." >>>>> >>>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists >>>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. >>>> >>>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? >>> >>> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you. >> >> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers > > Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number. With respect to the Soviets this, it seems, may have been exaggerated by Cold War propaganda. Hard to tell at this distance but Hitler probably beat out Stalin by a good couple of millions (see http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/ for one viewpoint). Which by no means makes Uncle Joe a jolly good fellow, but worse than Hitler? Not really. Mao's regime, on the other hand, was indeed the most murderous in history. Possibly five times more than Hitler - the Great Leap Forward alone may have had a death toll approaching 50 millions. >> Did you just forget the worst of the worst? > > No, 'cause he's not. He was, however, most likely worse than everyone other than Mao. -- For the night is drak, and full of errors.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 11:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55FEFF27.324A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #423192 |
Mike M wrote: > > BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > > In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >> > >>> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >>>> > >>>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or > >>>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Same old lie. > >>>>> > >>>>> Except it's not. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed? > >>>>> > >>>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the > >>>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants > >>>>> to..." > >>>>> > >>>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists > >>>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous. > >>>> > >>>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why? > >>> > >>> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you. > >> > >> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers > > > > Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number. > > With respect to the Soviets this, it seems, may have been exaggerated by > Cold War propaganda. Hard to tell at this distance but Hitler probably beat > out Stalin by a good couple of millions (see > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/ > for one viewpoint). Which by no means makes Uncle Joe a jolly good fellow, > but worse than Hitler? Not really. > > Mao's regime, on the other hand, was indeed the most murderous in history. > Possibly five times more than Hitler - the Great Leap Forward alone may > have had a death toll approaching 50 millions. > > >> Did you just forget the worst of the worst? > > > > No, 'cause he's not. > > He was, however, most likely worse than everyone other than Mao. Aldof Hitler NEVER hit a jewish person, never yelled at a jewish person, he never killed a jewish person. Yous people have been brainwashed by TV and Hollywood movies...by the people who run it. Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for you then pack up and leave the country... go to the south pole.
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| From | BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 15:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <930417728464474459.869850address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423235 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for > you then pack up and > leave the country... > > go to the south pole. Come at me, bro. I like my odds.
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| From | anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 16:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <anim8rfsk-4C8BCC.16550620092015@news.easynews.com> |
| In reply to | #423251 |
In article <930417728464474459.869850address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>, BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote: > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for > > you then pack up and > > leave the country... > > > > go to the south pole. > > Come at me, bro. > > I like my odds. No, seriously, is he mentally ill or trolling? -- SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuu......
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| From | "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 23:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mtnh3q$c0v$5@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #423273 |
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>>Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for >>>you then pack up and >>>leave the country... >>>go to the south pole. >>Come at me, bro. >>I like my odds. >No, seriously, is he mentally ill or trolling? Old-fashioned Usenet kook
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