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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-10 10:26 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-29 07:24 +0200 |
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Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 10:26 -0700
Re: Junk Science Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-08-10 10:30 -0700
Re: Junk Science djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-10 17:45 +0000
Re: Junk Science Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-10 12:18 -0600
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 11:29 -0700
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 17:38 -0700
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 21:52 -0700
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 11:21 -0700
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 11:15 -0700
Re: Junk Science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 22:16 -0700
Re: Junk Science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-29 07:24 +0200
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 10:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Junk Science |
| Message-ID | <55C8DED9.755C@ix.netcom.com> |
How do you protect yourself from Junk Science?
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| From | Alan Baker <email@domain.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 10:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mqan2p$n9p$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #419587 |
On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? It starts with not paying any attention to you...
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 17:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nsvnzG.ur3@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #419589 |
In article <mqan2p$n9p$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > >> How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? > >It starts with not paying any attention to you... > Wouldn't it be nice if nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress. Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
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| From | Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 12:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1br3nb57od.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net> |
| In reply to | #419594 |
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes: > In article <mqan2p$n9p$1@news.datemas.de>, > Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote: >>On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: >> >>> How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? >> >>It starts with not paying any attention to you... >> > > Wouldn't it be nice if nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? > Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. Me too. That would be so cool...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 11:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C8ED6D.45BB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419598 |
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes: > > > In article <mqan2p$n9p$1@news.datemas.de>, > > Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > >> > >>> How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? > >> > >>It starts with not paying any attention to you... > >> > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? > > Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. > > Me too. That would be so cool... it seems that the community is filled with 'wishful thinkers'...a source of junk science. science fiction writers are another source...but that is to be expected.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 17:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C9440E.33BA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419600 |
gilber34 wrote: > > On 8/10/2015 1:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >> > >> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes: > >f nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? > >>> Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. > >> > >> Me too. That would be so cool... > > > > > > > > it seems that the community is filled with 'wishful thinkers'...a source of junk science. > > > > > > > > science fiction writers are another source...but that is to be expected. > > > > the media, reporters who cannot understand basic science, because the > reporters failed science and math courses and had to take a lower path > into journalism, where subject knowledge is not needed. "basic science"??? https://www.google.com/#q=define+basic+science You don't acutally believe members of the 'scientific community' understand...."basic science"???? Definition of BASIC SCIENCE. : any one of the sciences (such as anatomy, physiology, bacteriology, pathology, or biochemistry) fundamental to the study of medicine. Why are you bring up ....the study of medicine??? Maybe You don't understand...basic science. And certaintly 'science journalist' don't understand...any science!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 21:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C97F7F.649B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419623 |
gilber34 wrote: > > On 8/10/2015 7:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > gilber34 wrote: > >> > >> On 8/10/2015 1:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >>>> > >>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes: > >>> f nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? > >>>>> Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. > > >> the media, reporters who cannot understand basic science, because > >> the reporters failed science and math courses and had to take a > >> lower path into journalism, where subject knowledge is not needed. > > > > > > "basic science"??? > > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+basic+science > > > > You don't acutally believe members of the 'scientific community' > > understand...."basic science"???? > > > > > > Definition of BASIC SCIENCE. : any one of the sciences (such as > > anatomy, physiology, bacteriology, pathology, or biochemistry) > > fundamental to the study of medicine. > > > > > > > > Why are you bring up ....the study of medicine??? > > ...... but thats' what druggies do too, study meds, > > REM Google is recording all the sites you visit and redirects your > search to what THEY think you want Google is not in the search engine business, they are in the advertising business. > > > > > > > Maybe You don't understand...basic science. > > I understand advanced science, but not "basic" science, the stuff > written in the BASIC programming language, > BASIC is not advanced programing. > REM - it gives me a headace. > > > > > > > And certaintly 'science journalist' don't understand...any science! > > they, science journalists, are only required to have previously reported > on something that may have looked scientific, or someone told them it > was sciency like, or if it was in a movie, or could have been.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 11:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C8EB96.29C4@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419594 |
Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > > In article <mqan2p$n9p$1@news.datemas.de>, > Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote: > >On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > > > >> How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? > > > >It starts with not paying any attention to you... > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if nobody ever responded to the Starmaker? > Then I wouldn't see his silly posts at all. That is what I call "Junk Science", because that isn't how nature works. It's what it is called in the 'scientific community'....wishful thinking. And we need to be protected from the likes of the Dorthy's in the world...with their wishful thinking junk science. Get rid of all the wishful thinkers in the 'scientific community'...is that even possible????
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 11:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C8EA50.1876@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419589 |
Alan Baker wrote: > > On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > > > How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? > > It starts with not paying any attention to you... Can you point to any item I posted that you would consider junk science?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 22:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55C9853D.67AE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #419597 |
gilber34 wrote: > > On 8/10/2015 1:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Alan Baker wrote: > >> > >> On 2015-08-10 17:26:49 +0000, The Starmaker said: > >> > >>> How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? > >> > >> It starts with not paying any attention to you... > > > > > > Can you point to any item I posted that you would consider junk science? > > > > here is your post on 8/8/2015, REM ? > > How God Created The Universe > > Most people have > a misconception on > How God Created The Universe. > (including the 'scientific community') > > I can explain > how God did it. > > To create > the heavens and > the earth, in the > beginning... > > He used sort > of a 3D printer... > I'm not sure > what type of > printer...could > be a hologram > printer...but > it is a 3D printer > type in order > to print... It's how you take an idea.. and turn it into a solid form. God had an idea 'in His mind' to create the heavens and the earth.. but he needed to put that idea into a solid visible form... So He got behind His computer turn on His 3D pinter and press the print button. He projected His idea from the fourth dimension into the 3D universe. Did I leave something out?
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 07:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d4cu0kFkbu3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #419587 |
Am 10.08.2015 19:26, schrieb The Starmaker: > How do you protect yourself from Junk Science? Depends on who 'you' is. If you have authority assisted by military force, you could round up 'junksters' and send them to 'reedjucation. If you are 'boss' of some sort and you have them in your staff, you may eventually fire them. But in both case you have a problem to identity 'junk science'. This is because 'junk science' had to be distinguished from 'good science'. And actually only scientists could do that (and not the boss). These very same scientists are actually those, who produced that same junk, hence would actually fire (or round up) 'good' scientists (because of heresy). This problem is called 'relativity' (of junkness) and shows, that you cannot chose the same people as jury about the benefits of what they have produced themselves. Only there are no other people available. And those that had actually been available are now silenced, because they have been burned at the stake (for the crime of heresy). This also wards off other potential heretics. TH
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