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  (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-11-01 12:24 +0000
    Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-11-01 16:00 -0500
      Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick bliss <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-11-01 13:56 -0800
        Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-11-01 18:40 -0500
          Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick bliss <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-11-01 16:21 -0800
            Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-11-02 09:10 -0500
              Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-11-02 15:03 -0500
                Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-11-03 10:39 -0500
        Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-11-02 15:44 +1300
          Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-11-02 15:22 -0500
            Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-11-07 17:37 +1300
              Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-11-07 09:34 -0500
                Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-11-10 17:09 +1300
          Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-11-02 23:41 +0000
            Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick bliss <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-11-02 16:05 -0800
              Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-11-03 15:27 +0000
      Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-11-02 01:31 +0000
        Re: (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-11-02 15:18 -0500

#661675 — (Tears) The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick

The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick 
 
Average folk try to survive in a defeated, fragmented former 
US divided between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/nor-all-your-piety-nor-wit
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#661676

James Nicoll wrote:
> The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick
>   
> Average folk try to survive in a defeated, fragmented former
> US divided between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
> 
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/nor-all-your-piety-nor-wit
> 
Many years ago I accidentally ran a global circulation model experiment 
without the Mediterranean sea.

The result was indeed a very nasty climate for the area and surrounding 
regions.  It got quite hot in summer, but nowhere near 80C.

Not all of Dick's work is obscure.  "Now Wait for Last Year" is, despite 
the title, a fairly straightforward novel.  "Confessions of a Crap 
Artist" is also fairly realist, despite the title character's rather 
loose grip on reality.

Apparently the latter has been made into a film, in French.  The novel 
was written in 1959, which is fairly close to the time Dick was saving 
money by eating Dr Ballard's.  Quite a contrast. I don't think anyone 
working on the film was eating dog food.


William Hyde

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#661680

On 11/1/26 13:00, William Hyde wrote:
> James Nicoll wrote:
>> The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick
>> Average folk try to survive in a defeated, fragmented former
>> US divided between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
>>
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/nor-all-your-piety-nor-wit
>>
> Many years ago I accidentally ran a global circulation model experiment 
> without the Mediterranean sea.
> 
> The result was indeed a very nasty climate for the area and surrounding 
> regions.  It got quite hot in summer, but nowhere near 80C.
> 
> Not all of Dick's work is obscure.  "Now Wait for Last Year" is, despite 
> the title, a fairly straightforward novel.  "Confessions of a Crap 
> Artist" is also fairly realist, despite the title character's rather 
> loose grip on reality.
> 
> Apparently the latter has been made into a film, in French.  The novel 
> was written in 1959, which is fairly close to the time Dick was saving 
> money by eating Dr Ballard's.  Quite a contrast. I don't think anyone 
> working on the film was eating dog food.
> 
> 
> William Hyde

	Well besides the stories you mention he wrote about an palentological 
fake in the "Man Whose Teeth Were all the Same."

	His SF/Futurist stories are better and I thought the
"Man in the High Castle" was perhap superior to a lot of others.
It did get me interested in the I-Ching and I experimented with
it for a while then decided that it only told me what I already
knew and abandoned it after a while.

	MHC is an an alternate universe/history story of course
and several other authors have explored the results of the
Hitlerians winning WW II.

	But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
more PKD.

	bliss- study, practice, experience

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#661682

bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>	But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>more PKD.

There's nothing wrong with narcozinium or even a little thalamic
stimulant of the hexo-amphetamine class.
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#661683

On 11/1/26 15:40, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>> 	But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>> more PKD.
> 
> There's nothing wrong with narcozinium or even a little thalamic
> stimulant of the hexo-amphetamine class.
> --scott

	Many former users who became abusers of that clsss of
stimulants weoul not agree.  As for me I got addicted to
coffee and it was hard withdrawal but even if I continued
to use it I still got migraine-form headaches. So I stopped
and after a while I no longer got that class of headache.
	When I started working night shift as a nurse I
got heavily into coffee but it did not help much with
staying awake.
	I kicked coffee during my first episode of
erythema nodosum which means red lumps which came up on
my shins were exceedingly painful and made it very difficult
to walk around except in very high-heeled lace-up boots.

	That was tiring and then I had to go to SF County
Hospital but was used as an instructive example and it took
me weeks to get relief with a corticosteroid. I got EN
because I had a high fever and lost track of time and took
too much aspirin. So I became sensitive to the whole class of
salicylate painkillers.
	That was like 40+ years ago in my thirties.

	bliss- study, practice, experience

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#661693

bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/26 15:40, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>>> 	But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>>> more PKD.
>> 
>> There's nothing wrong with narcozinium or even a little thalamic
>> stimulant of the hexo-amphetamine class.
>
>	Many former users who became abusers of that clsss of
>stimulants weoul not agree.  As for me I got addicted to
>coffee and it was hard withdrawal but even if I continued
>to use it I still got migraine-form headaches. So I stopped
>and after a while I no longer got that class of headache.

That's not what Jack Isadore says, and he's a professional tire
regroover so he should know.
--scott

Hint: these are drugs that exist only in PKD novels, not in the real world.
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#661696

Scott Dorsey wrote:
> bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>> On 11/1/26 15:40, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> bliss  <blissInSanFrancisco@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>>>> 	But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>>>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>>>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>>>> more PKD.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with narcozinium or even a little thalamic
>>> stimulant of the hexo-amphetamine class.
>>
>> 	Many former users who became abusers of that clsss of
>> stimulants weoul not agree.  As for me I got addicted to
>> coffee and it was hard withdrawal but even if I continued
>> to use it I still got migraine-form headaches. So I stopped
>> and after a while I no longer got that class of headache.
> 
> That's not what Jack Isadore says, and he's a professional tire
> regroover so he should know.
> --scott
> 
> Hint: these are drugs that exist only in PKD novels, not in the real world.
> 
Darn.  I was hoping to score some CAN-D. or at least a little CHEWW-Z.

William Hyde

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#661708

William Hyde  <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hint: these are drugs that exist only in PKD novels, not in the real world.
>> 
>Darn.  I was hoping to score some CAN-D. or at least a little CHEWW-Z.

Hold out for UBIK!
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#661687

On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
snip
> 
>     But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
> more PKD.

I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
Martian Time-Slip, and The World Jones Made.
Without the drugs, he would not have written such convoluted and
brilliant stories.

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#661698

Titus G wrote:
> On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
> snip
>>
>>      But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>> more PKD.
> 
> I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
> ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
> was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
> Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
> Martian Time-Slip,


As I recall it, "Martian Time Slip" was his breakthrough novel.  While 
he was well known before, after this book many of us (well, I was late 
for this party) really began to look forward to whatever he wrote next.

William Hyde

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#661777

On 03/11/2026 09:22, William Hyde wrote:
> Titus G wrote:
>> On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>>      But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>>> more PKD.
>>
>> I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
>> ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
>> was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
>> Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
>> Martian Time-Slip,
> 
> 
> As I recall it, "Martian Time Slip" was his breakthrough novel.  While
> he was well known before, after this book many of us (well, I was late
> for this party) really began to look forward to whatever he wrote next.
> 
> William Hyde
> 

When I was reading Dick, Asimov, Heinlein etc, I never knew any
background like that, no access to reviews nor magazines but just
indiscriminately devoured novels from the public library, most of which
I now need hints or reviews to jog my memory.

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#661784

In article <11cm9v9$352cl$2@dont-email.me>, Titus G  <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>When I was reading Dick, Asimov, Heinlein etc, I never knew any
>background like that, no access to reviews nor magazines but just
>indiscriminately devoured novels from the public library, most of which
>I now need hints or reviews to jog my memory.

Not me!  I read the chapter headings in all the Asimov books where he
talked about other great SF authors and I went to the library to look
up books from those writers!  Then.... then I came across a copy of
Astounding and then there were even more books to read!

Now I read this newsgroup and I vote for Hugos and both of them give me
giant directed reading lists.  Often directed quite differently.
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#661839

On 08/11/2026 03:34, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article <11cm9v9$352cl$2@dont-email.me>, Titus G  <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> When I was reading Dick, Asimov, Heinlein etc, I never knew any
>> background like that, no access to reviews nor magazines but just
>> indiscriminately devoured novels from the public library, most of which
>> I now need hints or reviews to jog my memory.
> 
> Not me!  I read the chapter headings in all the Asimov books where he
> talked about other great SF authors and I went to the library to look
> up books from those writers!  Then.... then I came across a copy of
> Astounding and then there were even more books to read!
> 
> Now I read this newsgroup and I vote for Hugos and both of them give me
> giant directed reading lists.  Often directed quite differently.
> --scott

The difference was probably the size of the library? I was in a small
city of 50,000 and probably read every science fiction book in the
library.
More recently I have been reading most of those nominated for Hugos and
also follow recommendations from here including older books from James
Nicoll's reviews.

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#661703

Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
> snip
>>
>>     But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>> more PKD.
>
> I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
> ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
> was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
> Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
> Martian Time-Slip, and The World Jones Made.
> Without the drugs, he would not have written such convoluted and
> brilliant stories.

James, HIGH TOWER's Wyoming and Colorado settings interest me more than
its nod to the nonstop Nazi narrative found in bygone Science Fiction.
Frank Frink's fraud is a little on the nose.

bliss, in regards to your nursing career, anyone who aspires to be a
medical genius ought to spend time with ENCYCLOPEDIA & DICTIONARY of
MEDICINE, NURSING, & ALLIED HEALTH, edited by Marie T O'Toole, EdD, RN,
FAAN. One of its many contributors used to post here.

Titus G, SCANNER helped me cope with a relative's suicide. TIME-SLIP's
OK, but FLOW reminds me too much of the Epstein Coalition. The HIGH
CASTLE movie treatment is Epstein Coalition product:

<https://deadline.com/2017/10/roy-price-amazon-sexual-harassment-claim-man-in-the-high-castle-producer-1202187548/>

--
Don.......My cat's  )\._.,--....,'``.                     veritas    _|_
telltale tall tail /,   _.. \   _\  (`._ ,.               liberabit   |
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'              vos         |

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#661704

On 11/2/26 15:41, Don wrote:
> Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>>      But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>>> more PKD.
>>
>> I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
>> ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
>> was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
>> Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
>> Martian Time-Slip, and The World Jones Made.
>> Without the drugs, he would not have written such convoluted and
>> brilliant stories.
> 
> James, HIGH TOWER's Wyoming and Colorado settings interest me more than
> its nod to the nonstop Nazi narrative found in bygone Science Fiction.
> Frank Frink's fraud is a little on the nose.
> 
> bliss, in regards to your nursing career, anyone who aspires to be a
> medical genius ought to spend time with ENCYCLOPEDIA & DICTIONARY of
> MEDICINE, NURSING, & ALLIED HEALTH, edited by Marie T O'Toole, EdD, RN,
> FAAN. One of its many contributors used to post here.

	I quit nursing many years ago and no longer have the stamina
to have anything to do with more than the most casual items.
You may have missed my statement that I am 89 yoa. My nursing
career was over 50 years ago.

> 
> Titus G, SCANNER helped me cope with a relative's suicide. TIME-SLIP's
> OK, but FLOW reminds me too much of the Epstein Coalition. The HIGH
> CASTLE movie treatment is Epstein Coalition product:
> 
> <https://deadline.com/2017/10/roy-price-amazon-sexual-harassment-claim-man-in-the-high-castle-producer-1202187548/>
> 
> --
> Don.......My cat's  )\._.,--....,'``.                     veritas    _|_
> telltale tall tail /,   _.. \   _\  (`._ ,.               liberabit   |
> tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'              vos         |

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#661707

bliss <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:
>On 11/2/26 15:41, Don wrote:
>> Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On 02/11/2026 10:56, bliss wrote:
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>      But I never passed up the chance to read Philip K. Dick
>>>> stories in my youth. That he was on drugs was perhaps the least
>>>> strange bit of information I learned after he left us without
>>>> more PKD.
>>>
>>> I now remember the films instead of the most famous books read decades
>>> ago but do remember A Scanner Darkly with amazement. More recently read
>>> was the less popular but an enjoyable read for me, Flow My Tears, The
>>> Policeman Said, but my favourites of his perhaps lesser works, are
>>> Martian Time-Slip, and The World Jones Made.
>>> Without the drugs, he would not have written such convoluted and
>>> brilliant stories.
>> 
>> James, HIGH TOWER's Wyoming and Colorado settings interest me more than
>> its nod to the nonstop Nazi narrative found in bygone Science Fiction.
>> Frank Frink's fraud is a little on the nose.
>> 
>> bliss, in regards to your nursing career, anyone who aspires to be a
>> medical genius ought to spend time with ENCYCLOPEDIA & DICTIONARY of
>> MEDICINE, NURSING, & ALLIED HEALTH, edited by Marie T O'Toole, EdD, RN,
>> FAAN. One of its many contributors used to post here.
>
>	I quit nursing many years ago and no longer have the stamina
>to have anything to do with more than the most casual items.
>You may have missed my statement that I am 89 yoa. My nursing
>career was over 50 years ago.

I recently received a copy of "The People's Common Sense Medical
Advisor, in Plain English" (c) 1889 (Twentieth Edition) which belonged to my
great-grandparents.

It is illustrative of the progress made in medicine over the last
century and a half.  It is no wonder that people were dying right
and left in the 19th century if they were following the recommendations
in that book.

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#661684

In article <11c899v$2al7k$1@dont-email.me>,
William Hyde  <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
>James Nicoll wrote:
>> The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick
>>   
>> Average folk try to survive in a defeated, fragmented former
>> US divided between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
>> 
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/nor-all-your-piety-nor-wit
>> 
>Many years ago I accidentally ran a global circulation model experiment 
>without the Mediterranean sea.
>
>The result was indeed a very nasty climate for the area and surrounding 
>regions.  It got quite hot in summer, but nowhere near 80C.

80C was the figure I found for the deep, 1.7 atm regions.

-- 
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My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
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#661697

James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <11c899v$2al7k$1@dont-email.me>,
> William Hyde  <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
>> James Nicoll wrote:
>>> The Man In The High Castle by Philip K. Dick
>>>    
>>> Average folk try to survive in a defeated, fragmented former
>>> US divided between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
>>>
>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/nor-all-your-piety-nor-wit
>>>
>> Many years ago I accidentally ran a global circulation model experiment
>> without the Mediterranean sea.
>>
>> The result was indeed a very nasty climate for the area and surrounding
>> regions.  It got quite hot in summer, but nowhere near 80C.
> 
> 80C was the figure I found for the deep, 1.7 atm regions.
> 
The Calypso deep extends five kilometers below sea level, so at a 
standard lapse rate that would be about 33C warmer than surface 
temperature, which would thus have to be 47. This certainly could happen 
in heat waves - it almost happens now.

That said, model parameterizations are less accurate at extremes, and I 
am very doubtful of results over 50 C.  But that is bad enough.

Most GCM simulations do not have the resolution to model the Calypso 
deep and mine certainly did not back in 1982 (though that is changing) 
but the microclimate could be simulated by a mesoscale model embedded in 
a GCM, something we've been doing for decades now. Such a model may be 
the source of your figure.

I doubt that even the most dedicated geoengineers would drain the deep, 
though.  Some source of water is needed.  Even if it would be salty.

William Hyde

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