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Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer lynnmcguire5@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 16:21 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-14 23:38 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Greg Weeks <gweeks.durendal@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 05:31 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-15 08:19 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-15 16:50 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 12:55 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-15 19:06 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 18:42 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-16 02:13 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-05-15 19:26 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 15:41 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 14:17 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2018-05-17 07:16 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:51 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:00 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-17 21:14 +0000
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 17:59 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 18:02 -0400
LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-18 13:41 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-18 02:06 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-18 14:52 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 23:32 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-05-17 22:03 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:35 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-18 05:46 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 21:27 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-05-19 13:42 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 17:29 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@kithrup.com (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-19 06:08 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:38 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-18 04:19 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 15:58 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-18 14:12 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-05-18 18:25 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-19 18:51 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-19 20:06 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 03:19 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-20 04:05 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 04:16 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 00:46 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 01:11 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 05:29 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 02:27 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 04:16 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 19:48 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 16:50 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:33 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-22 19:35 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-22 12:42 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:25 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-22 21:03 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-05-23 15:02 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 18:17 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-23 16:24 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-05-23 05:27 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Joe Bernstein <Kdeurama@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:33 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-05-21 14:53 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2018-05-22 00:34 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 03:06 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:18 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 08:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-05 17:43 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:17 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:03 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 13:21 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-06 20:55 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-07 20:49 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 21:54 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 08:21 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-08 15:45 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:14 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:54 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-10 18:23 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-11 08:12 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-08 11:57 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:57 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-11 19:33 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-14 22:49 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-06-14 23:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-15 22:10 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-16 08:49 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-06-08 13:25 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:08 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-11 01:00 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-07 19:42 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-07 20:22 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> - 2018-06-08 10:07 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-08 08:39 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 16:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> - 2018-06-09 18:30 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 19:28 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-07 21:55 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 04:11 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-08 16:51 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:13 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-10 18:32 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-10 21:34 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 10:05 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-09 11:33 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 09:57 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-09 18:07 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-09 20:45 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-10 01:07 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-10 17:18 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 01:59 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-06-10 18:10 +1200
Re: LWE -Copyright Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2018-06-10 13:41 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:11 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-07 22:28 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-06-09 08:09 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-15 15:38 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-20 06:56 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-20 20:11 +0300
Re: LWE -Copyright news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2018-05-21 12:07 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-20 00:39 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-05-20 11:27 +0100
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-20 13:52 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-20 15:59 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 04:50 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-21 00:05 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 16:05 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-21 14:30 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 22:57 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 16:13 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-21 23:55 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 01:01 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 13:19 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-22 17:44 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-22 18:54 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 13:13 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:28 -0500
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 03:47 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 07:25 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-20 07:00 -0600
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 11:56 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-20 16:03 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 12:52 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-05-20 13:26 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-05-20 19:06 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-05-20 21:04 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-21 04:04 +0000
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 11:48 -0700
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 00:39 -0400
Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 12:05 -0700
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-17 08:07 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 12:26 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-17 17:29 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 17:41 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-17 23:02 -0600
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:18 -0400
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2018-05-18 08:18 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-04 21:11 -0500
Re: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0500
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 13:52 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180520b@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492246 |
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie > <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > >>Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet... >>one of those spelling cases that gives away a >>time traveller.) > > Aargh. What's that from? Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet traveled through time from the past. (Supersedes: to the rescue yet again. ROTFL.) ✍ Thank you, -- Don
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 15:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <344be18b-57a9-4997-b75c-330c3e888c30@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492253 |
On Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:52:35 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote: > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie > > <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > > >>Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet... > >>one of those spelling cases that gives away a > >>time traveller.) > > > > Aargh. What's that from? > > Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt > soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet > traveled through time from the past. > > (Supersedes: to the rescue yet again. ROTFL.) > > ✍ > > Thank you, > > -- > Don I didn't intend a YASID and I don't recall a story where language gets someone caught out as anachronistic, although I envisaged that in the other direction, visiting the past and embarrassing yourself. After all, everyone in rasfw got here by travelling through time from the past. Some are /really/ good at it. I doubt there's time for it to come up -but it may - in: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281979_film%29> Unrelatedly, I vaguely remembered "cognomen" apparently being used in the 1950s mock "schoolboy" writing of the character Nigel Molesworth, including parodical form-filling which seemed to imply, rather incorrectly, that "cognomen" is merely a synonym for "name". I threw it in anyway with some others... then noticed that my idea of how to spell "sobriquet" was wrong as well, but coincided with an archaic form. So those are probably not specific story elements.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 04:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180520c@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492268 |
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:52:35 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote:
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
>> > <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet...
>> >>one of those spelling cases that gives away a
>> >>time traveller.)
>> >
>> > Aargh. What's that from?
>>
>> Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt
>> soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet
>> traveled through time from the past.
>>
> I didn't intend a YASID and I don't recall a story
> where language gets someone caught out as anachronistic,
> although I envisaged that in the other direction, visiting
> the past and embarrassing yourself. After all, everyone
> in rasfw got here by travelling through time from the past.
> Some are /really/ good at it.
>
> I doubt there's time for it to come up -but it may - in:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281979_film%29>
>
> Unrelatedly, I vaguely remembered "cognomen" apparently
> being used in the 1950s mock "schoolboy" writing of the
> character Nigel Molesworth, including parodical
> form-filling which seemed to imply, rather incorrectly,
> that "cognomen" is merely a synonym for "name".
> I threw it in anyway with some others... then noticed that
> my idea of how to spell "sobriquet" was wrong as well,
> but coincided with an archaic form. So those are probably
> not specific story elements.
Barney Baker takes a .45 automatic pistol along with him when he travels
back to 1776 in "Rescue into the Past" (Farley). Caroline, from 1776,
notices Barney's strange manner of speaking but nothing further comes
from it.
She smiled and said, "Master Baker, wouldst have some savory
stew?" Her voice was as sweet as her face and figure.
"You betcha!" I answered. "I mean I wouldst."
She dimpled. "I hope that thou art to be trusted, Master Baker.
Our men ought not to rebuff aid from whatever quarter."
"You took the words right out of mouth," I said.
"Thou hast a quaint manner of speech, Master Baker. But come,
let me feed thee thy broth, for they hands are pinioned."
(That passage was accurately transcribed by me. But it sounds
awkward, as though a "thou" and a "my" are missing.)
Dan in _The Man Who Folded Himself_ (Gerrold) reckons that he can
travel a couple of hundred years either way from 1975. Outside of 1775
to 2175 "the languages are difficult: the meanings have altered, the
pronunciations and usages too complex to decipher."
Nobody in San Francisco seems to notice Wells' archaic English in
_Time After Time_. It probably sounds simply British to San Franciscans,
who lack a discerning ear for contemporary British English.
As you say, everyone alive time travels into the future. "Time for
Sale" (Farley) speeds up entropy inside an enclosed glass cage to move
people into the future at a faster rate. During the course of a single
night travelers age a couple of weeks inside the glass cage.
Relative time's reversed in the enclosed entropy cages known as
bobbles in _The Peace War_ (Vinge). Time passes much more slowly inside
the bobble as it races by outside.
✍
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 00:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <d1a7819f-aaf9-4d24-ac86-6f8b828fdfd2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492275 |
On Monday, 21 May 2018 05:50:08 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote: > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:52:35 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote: > >> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > >> > On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie > >> > <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >>Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet... > >> >>one of those spelling cases that gives away a > >> >>time traveller.) > >> > > >> > Aargh. What's that from? > >> > >> Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt > >> soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet > >> traveled through time from the past. > >> > > I didn't intend a YASID and I don't recall a story > > where language gets someone caught out as anachronistic, > > although I envisaged that in the other direction, visiting > > the past and embarrassing yourself. After all, everyone > > in rasfw got here by travelling through time from the past. > > Some are /really/ good at it. > > > > I doubt there's time for it to come up -but it may - in: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281979_film%29> > > > > Unrelatedly, I vaguely remembered "cognomen" apparently > > being used in the 1950s mock "schoolboy" writing of the > > character Nigel Molesworth, including parodical > > form-filling which seemed to imply, rather incorrectly, > > that "cognomen" is merely a synonym for "name". > > I threw it in anyway with some others... then noticed that > > my idea of how to spell "sobriquet" was wrong as well, > > but coincided with an archaic form. So those are probably > > not specific story elements. > > Barney Baker takes a .45 automatic pistol along with him when he travels > back to 1776 in "Rescue into the Past" (Farley). Caroline, from 1776, > notices Barney's strange manner of speaking but nothing further comes > from it. > She smiled and said, "Master Baker, wouldst have some savory > stew?" Her voice was as sweet as her face and figure. > "You betcha!" I answered. "I mean I wouldst." > She dimpled. "I hope that thou art to be trusted, Master Baker. > Our men ought not to rebuff aid from whatever quarter." > "You took the words right out of mouth," I said. > "Thou hast a quaint manner of speech, Master Baker. But come, > let me feed thee thy broth, for they hands are pinioned." > (That passage was accurately transcribed by me. But it sounds > awkward, as though a "thou" and a "my" are missing.) > Dan in _The Man Who Folded Himself_ (Gerrold) reckons that he can > travel a couple of hundred years either way from 1975. Outside of 1775 > to 2175 "the languages are difficult: the meanings have altered, the > pronunciations and usages too complex to decipher." > Nobody in San Francisco seems to notice Wells' archaic English in > _Time After Time_. It probably sounds simply British to San Franciscans, > who lack a discerning ear for contemporary British English. > As you say, everyone alive time travels into the future. "Time for > Sale" (Farley) speeds up entropy inside an enclosed glass cage to move > people into the future at a faster rate. During the course of a single > night travelers age a couple of weeks inside the glass cage. > Relative time's reversed in the enclosed entropy cages known as > bobbles in _The Peace War_ (Vinge). Time passes much more slowly inside > the bobble as it races by outside. > > ✍ > > Thank you, > > -- > Don I don't quite get the idea of "Time for Sale" as you describe it. Presumably you get to spend time in the box doing something useful besides getting somewhat older. There's an episode of _Kurt Busiek's Astro City_ where Earth's top magician, The Silver Adept, needs her assistant to do a lot of book research quickly, so puts the assistant in a dimension where relative time makes that possible. And something similar in a Doctor Who comics story involving space werewolves. Not really related but in _2000 AD_ they just ran a _Strontium Dog_ story where - spoiler - an evil robot that was basically indestructible was defeated by using a time device which briefly paused time where the robot was standing; since planets move, it rematerialised out in space - he dead. But, it's an indestructible robot... let's see what happens in next week's episode. Actually there isn't one, but you see what I mean.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 16:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180521d@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492277 |
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 21 May 2018 05:50:08 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote:
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:52:35 UTC+1, D B Davis wrote:
>> >> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
>> >> > <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet...
>> >> >>one of those spelling cases that gives away a
>> >> >>time traveller.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Aargh. What's that from?
>> >>
>> >> Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt
>> >> soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet
>> >> traveled through time from the past.
>> >>
>> > I didn't intend a YASID and I don't recall a story
>> > where language gets someone caught out as anachronistic,
>> > although I envisaged that in the other direction, visiting
>> > the past and embarrassing yourself. After all, everyone
>> > in rasfw got here by travelling through time from the past.
>> > Some are /really/ good at it.
>> >
>> > I doubt there's time for it to come up -but it may - in:
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281979_film%29>
>> >
>> > Unrelatedly, I vaguely remembered "cognomen" apparently
>> > being used in the 1950s mock "schoolboy" writing of the
>> > character Nigel Molesworth, including parodical
>> > form-filling which seemed to imply, rather incorrectly,
>> > that "cognomen" is merely a synonym for "name".
>> > I threw it in anyway with some others... then noticed that
>> > my idea of how to spell "sobriquet" was wrong as well,
>> > but coincided with an archaic form. So those are probably
>> > not specific story elements.
>>
>> Barney Baker takes a .45 automatic pistol along with him when he travels
>> back to 1776 in "Rescue into the Past" (Farley). Caroline, from 1776,
>> notices Barney's strange manner of speaking but nothing further comes
>> from it.
>> She smiled and said, "Master Baker, wouldst have some savory
>> stew?" Her voice was as sweet as her face and figure.
>> "You betcha!" I answered. "I mean I wouldst."
>> She dimpled. "I hope that thou art to be trusted, Master Baker.
>> Our men ought not to rebuff aid from whatever quarter."
>> "You took the words right out of mouth," I said.
>> "Thou hast a quaint manner of speech, Master Baker. But come,
>> let me feed thee thy broth, for they hands are pinioned."
>> (That passage was accurately transcribed by me. But it sounds
>> awkward, as though a "thou" and a "my" are missing.)
>> Dan in _The Man Who Folded Himself_ (Gerrold) reckons that he can
>> travel a couple of hundred years either way from 1975. Outside of 1775
>> to 2175 "the languages are difficult: the meanings have altered, the
>> pronunciations and usages too complex to decipher."
>> Nobody in San Francisco seems to notice Wells' archaic English in
>> _Time After Time_. It probably sounds simply British to San Franciscans,
>> who lack a discerning ear for contemporary British English.
>> As you say, everyone alive time travels into the future. "Time for
>> Sale" (Farley) speeds up entropy inside an enclosed glass cage to move
>> people into the future at a faster rate. During the course of a single
>> night travelers age a couple of weeks inside the glass cage.
>> Relative time's reversed in the enclosed entropy cages known as
>> bobbles in _The Peace War_ (Vinge). Time passes much more slowly inside
>> the bobble as it races by outside.
>>
> I don't quite get the idea of "Time for Sale" as you
> describe it. Presumably you get to spend time in the
> box doing something useful besides getting somewhat
> older. There's an episode of _Kurt Busiek's Astro City_
> where Earth's top magician, The Silver Adept, needs her
> assistant to do a lot of book research quickly, so puts
> the assistant in a dimension where relative time makes
> that possible. And something similar in a Doctor Who
> comics story involving space werewolves.
>
> Not really related but in _2000 AD_ they just ran a
> _Strontium Dog_ story where - spoiler - an evil robot
> that was basically indestructible was defeated by using
> a time device which briefly paused time where the robot
> was standing; since planets move, it rematerialised
> out in space - he dead. But, it's an indestructible
> robot... let's see what happens in next week's episode.
> Actually there isn't one, but you see what I mean.
"Time for Sale" opens with Tom Porter, a college football captain who
needs two weeks of tutoring before he takes tomorrow's Physics final
exam. After Tom kills the exam, Dr Hatch and Tom kick around potential
uses for Hatch's entropy cage.
Contractors can always use extra time to prepare a bid by a
deadline. Lawyers can thoroughly prepare for the next day's court
session. The Department of War (in "Time for Sale"'s 1938 nomenclature)
can develop new weapons practically overnight.
"The New Accelerator" (Wells) uses hypophosphites to metabolically
speed up a time traveler. Potential uses imagined by Wells include two
found in the Farley: cramming for an exam and court trial preparation.
Wells also imagines additional uses in diplomacy, dueling, and story
writing. (In real life, stimulates enabled PKD write novels in a few
weeks.)
It takes only eight days to die from old age in "Frost and Fire"
(Bradbury). An alien Sun's radiation accelerates metabolism in the
humans trapped on one of its planets. Bradbury imagines no good use for
such an involuntary predicament.
✍
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 14:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <2cf4e95b-f867-439f-b909-9210540fd481@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492277 |
Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post. "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing, but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc. do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family. Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 22:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180521e@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492327 |
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post.
>
> "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing,
> but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal
> awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc.
> do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family.
> Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on
> the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the
> disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
How can google be a master of the universe if its too incompetent to
properly process a simple Supersedes: header? That header's been part of
the NNTP protocol for decades.
It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well, everyone
knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO.
✍
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 16:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8E9A508D6694taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #492331 |
D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net:
> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post.
>>
>> "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing,
>> but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal
>> awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc.
>> do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family.
>> Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on
>> the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the
>> disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
>
> How can google be a master of the universe if its too
> incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header?
> That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades.
> It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well,
> everyone
> knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO.
>
Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago that
began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any more?
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-21 23:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180521f@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492332 |
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net:
>
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>>> Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post.
>>>
>>> "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing,
>>> but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal
>>> awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc.
>>> do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family.
>>> Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on
>>> the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the
>>> disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
>>
>> How can google be a master of the universe if its too
>> incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header?
>> That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades.
>> It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well,
>> everyone
>> knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO.
>>
> Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago that
> began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any more?
>
The first seven open NNTP servers inspected by me are all competent
enough to properly process a Supersedes: header:
news.bbs.nz
news.eternal-september.org
News.MB-Net.NET
news.uni-stuttgart.de
news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
news2.neva.ru
nntp.aioe.org
My own NNTP server also properly processes Supersedes: headers.
databasix.com supposedly mishandles Supersedes: according to the
people who use databasix to post to alt.flame, alt.troll,
alt.usenet.kooks, et al.
✍
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-22 01:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8E9B75FD9468taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #492333 |
D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521f@crcomp.net:
> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net:
>>
>>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>>>> Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post.
>>>>
>>>> "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing,
>>>> but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal
>>>> awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc.
>>>> do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family.
>>>> Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on
>>>> the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the
>>>> disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
>>>
>>> How can google be a master of the universe if its too
>>> incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header?
>>> That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades.
>>> It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well,
>>> everyone
>>> knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO.
>>>
>> Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago
>> that began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any
>> more?
>>
>
> The first seven open NNTP servers inspected by me are all
> competent enough to properly process a Supersedes: header:
>
> news.bbs.nz
> news.eternal-september.org
> News.MB-Net.NET
> news.uni-stuttgart.de
> news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
> news2.neva.ru
> nntp.aioe.org
Thanks for the list of servers that aren't worth the trouble.
>
> My own NNTP server also properly processes Supersedes:
> headers.
That one, too.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-22 13:19 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.20B488BD007C025470000DBA22CF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492333 |
On 21 May 2018, D B Davis wrote (in article <20180521f@crcomp.net>): > Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > > D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net: > > > > > Robert Carnegie<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > > > Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post. > > > > > > > > "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing, > > > > but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal > > > > awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc. > > > > do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family. > > > > Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on > > > > the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the > > > > disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun. > > > > > > How can google be a master of the universe if its too > > > incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header? > > > That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades. > > > It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well, > > > everyone > > > knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO. > > Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago that > > began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any more? > > The first seven open NNTP servers inspected by me are all competent > enough to properly process a Supersedes: header: > > news.bbs.nz > news.eternal-september.org Errmmm... on news.eternal-september I see one post... and the faded ‘ghosts’ of others. In this case, three others. Your Supersedes header ain’t working as well as you seem to think. > > News.MB-Net.NET > news.uni-stuttgart.de > news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de > news2.neva.ru > nntp.aioe.org > > My own NNTP server also properly processes Supersedes: headers. > databasix.com supposedly mishandles Supersedes: according to the > people who use databasix to post to alt.flame, alt.troll, > alt.usenet.kooks, et al. > > ✍ > > Thank you,
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-22 17:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <CFYMC.41441$1a5.1619@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #492358 |
Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> writes: >On 21 May 2018, D B Davis wrote >(in article <20180521f@crcomp.net>): > >> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >> > D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net: >> > >> > > Robert Carnegie<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >> > > > Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post. >> > > > >> > > > "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing, >> > > > but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal >> > > > awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc. >> > > > do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family. >> > > > Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on >> > > > the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the >> > > > disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun. >> > > >> > > How can google be a master of the universe if its too >> > > incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header? >> > > That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades. >> > > It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well, >> > > everyone >> > > knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO. >> > Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago that >> > began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any more? >> >> The first seven open NNTP servers inspected by me are all competent >> enough to properly process a Supersedes: header: >> >> news.bbs.nz >> news.eternal-september.org > >Errmmm... on news.eternal-september I see one post... and the faded >‘ghosts’ of others. In this case, three others. Your Supersedes header >ain’t working as well as you seem to think. >> >> News.MB-Net.NET >> news.uni-stuttgart.de >> news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de >> news2.neva.ru >> nntp.aioe.org >> >> My own NNTP server also properly processes Supersedes: headers. >> databasix.com supposedly mishandles Supersedes: according to the >> people who use databasix to post to alt.flame, alt.troll, >> alt.usenet.kooks, et al. It's possible his NNTP client honors it instead of relying on the server.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-22 18:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <20180522c@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #492358 |
Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21 May 2018, D B Davis wrote
> (in article <20180521f@crcomp.net>):
>
>> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180521e@crcomp.net:
>> >
>> > > Robert Carnegie<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> > > > Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post.
>> > > >
>> > > > "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing,
>> > > > but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal
>> > > > awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc.
>> > > > do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family.
>> > > > Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on
>> > > > the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the
>> > > > disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun.
>> > >
>> > > How can google be a master of the universe if its too
>> > > incompetent to properly process a simple Supersedes: header?
>> > > That header's been part of the NNTP protocol for decades.
>> > > It makes me wonder what else they f'up. ROTFL. Oh well,
>> > > everyone
>> > > knows that google's IT, right? ROTFLMAO.
>> > Given how it (and cancel) has been abused (and how long ago that
>> > began), is there *any* NNTP server that honors it any more?
>>
>> The first seven open NNTP servers inspected by me are all competent
>> enough to properly process a Supersedes: header:
>>
>> news.bbs.nz
>> news.eternal-september.org
>
> Errmmm... on news.eternal-september I see one post... and the faded
> 'ghosts' of others. In this case, three others. Your Supersedes header
> ain't working as well as you seem to think.
If you see a 'ghost' than Supersede: actually works better than
expected. You probably see the artifacts of a NNTP race condition that
occurs whenever an article's header gets out of sync with its body.
That sort of thing can happen to me when my news browser is
connected to an external news server and an earlier version of one of my
articles is pulled in between Supersedes: In my case, both versions end
up in my browser's cache and neither is 'ghosted.' So that's why the
'ghosts' that you see are actually an improvement over my own setup.
Of all things, lynx actually does the best job with external news
servers. For instance, it displays:
* Status (ARTICLE 492149): 423 No such article number 492149
There's plenty of other people who post Supersedes: to rasw.
Sometimes lynx shows a string of half-a-dozen of other people's
Supersedes: posted over a period of seconds, or minutes at most.
✍
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-22 13:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.20B48724007BA25770000DBA22CF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492327 |
On 21 May 2018, Robert Carnegie wrote (in article<2cf4e95b-f867-439f-b909-9210540fd481@googlegroups.com>): > Google has several copies of your (D B Davis) post. > > "The New Accelerator" was not strictly a time physics thing, > but metabolic. I was somehow expecting he story to reveal > awful misuses of it e.g. making miners, factory workers etc. > do a month's work for a day'd wages, away from their family. > Instead we got advance publicity for the stuff coming on > the market. Perhaps you were supposed to think of the > disadvantages yourself. Perhaps Wells was just having fun. It ain’t just Google. And it ain’t the first time.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-04 21:28 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright |
| Message-ID | <69GdnWd0eID6aIjGnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #492253 |
On 2018-05-20, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote: > Although Robert knows best, his last words suggest sobriquet's spelt > soubriquet in the past. So people who spell sobriquet soubriquet > traveled through time from the past. > > (Supersedes: to the rescue yet again. ROTFL.) pssst: most systems haven't accepted Supersedes: , nor cancellation neither, for quite some time, since security on the newsgroup that handles them is pretty much nonexistent and the percentage of vengeful dicks on Usenet is measurably non-zero even if you don't count the loony ones. Dave, so yes, yesterday I saw four different near-identical posts from you whilst catching up from a week's non-access -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 03:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <232a68b0-3fed-45ff-a825-41931e8bca50@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #492243 |
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 3:39:37 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:06:28 UTC+1, Kevrob wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
> > > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a
> > > >> personal name.
> > > >
> > > >I like to call my "first name" my forename.
> > >
> > > Family name, given name,
> >
> > Unless you legally change thar "given name," then
> > you need something else to call it.
>
> Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet...
> one of those spelling cases that gives away a
> time traveller.) Nom d'un chien.
>
> > >.... middle name. If you treat your middle name
> > > as your "given name", this structure fails.
> >
> > Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not
> > be family name, if you've changed it.
> >
> > Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't
> > apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as
> > Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name"
> > isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal
> > name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is
> > "Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that.
> >
> > Kevin R
> >
> > * Many don't have these.
>
> <https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/>
> inevitably.
>
> All of your names are given to you unless and until
> and except when you pick your own,
Having been raised Catholic, I was given a saint's name as a first
name, and another one as a middle name. My surname (family name)
is based on a third saint's name, or rather, a diminutive of one.
That's 3 "Christian names," or near enough. At the age of 10 I was
duped into undergoing the rite of Confirmation, at which point I
picked another saint's name. I don't use that any more, but some of
my siblings remember it.
Two of my sisters have "double first names" of the "Mary Ann"
format, so they have five names.
In Irish-American Catholic families, the anger of your parent at
whatever your latest infraction of the rules was could be estimated
by how many names were used to call you to account. "Michael
Patrick Ignatius Fitzgerald!!" was in so much more trouble than
"Mike," "Michael," or even "Michael Patrick!" At least he never
got the "five-name call-out."
I have a brother who married a Cuban-American, so their kids could
add the second family name if they so pleased.
LWE's LW-E "nom de plume" is a "double-barreled surname," a
wonderful term I just found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barrelled_name
I think I'd choose Browning-Mossberg if I needed one of those. {)
> but "given name"
> usually is separate from an inherited or family name.
> Then there's nicknames, and epithets which I learned
> about recently... and there seems to be something
> about every Ancient Roman male for a while being given
> the first first name "Gaius", but obviously not using it.
The glorious-sounding "praenomen."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_naming_conventions
Don't forget how all Sikh men use "Singh" and the women
traditionally use "Kaur."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singh
Kevin R
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| From | Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 07:25 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.20B19295010E7716700004ADB2CF@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #492248 |
On 20 May 2018, Kevrob wrote
(in article<232a68b0-3fed-45ff-a825-41931e8bca50@googlegroups.com>):
> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 3:39:37 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:06:28 UTC+1, Kevrob wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
> > > > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 3:38:23 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Not being a Christian, I don't have a Christian name; I have a
> > > > > > personal name.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like to call my "first name" my forename.
> > > >
> > > > Family name, given name,
> > >
> > > Unless you legally change thar "given name," then
> > > you need something else to call it.
> >
> > Cognomen, moniker, sobriquet. (Not soubriquet...
> > one of those spelling cases that gives away a
> > time traveller.) Nom d'un chien.
> >
> > > > .... middle name. If you treat your middle name
> > > > as your "given name", this structure fails.
> > >
> > > Forename, [middle name*], surname. Surname may not
> > > be family name, if you've changed it.
> > >
> > > Of course, there are many swatches of Terra where this doesn't
> > > apply. Mononyms are popular in populous countries such as
> > > Indonesia. Then there are the cultures where "family name"
> > > isn't used as much as matronym and/or patronym. The "Personal
> > > name" as forename, and family name/surname as last name is
> > > "Western Order," where "Eastern Order" reverses that.
> > >
> > > Kevin R
> > >
> > > * Many don't have these.
> >
> > <https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-n
> > ames/>
> > inevitably.
> >
> > All of your names are given to you unless and until
> > and except when you pick your own,
>
> Having been raised Catholic, I was given a saint's name as a first
> name, and another one as a middle name. My surname (family name)
> is based on a third saint's name, or rather, a diminutive of one.
> That's 3 "Christian names," or near enough. At the age of 10 I was
> duped into undergoing the rite of Confirmation, at which point I
> picked another saint's name. I don't use that any more, but some of
> my siblings remember it.
>
> Two of my sisters have "double first names" of the "Mary Ann"
> format, so they have five names.
>
> In Irish-American Catholic families, the anger of your parent at
> whatever your latest infraction of the rules was could be estimated
> by how many names were used to call you to account. "Michael
> Patrick Ignatius Fitzgerald!!" was in so much more trouble than
> "Mike," "Michael," or even "Michael Patrick!" At least he never
> got the "five-name call-out."
>
> I have a brother who married a Cuban-American, so their kids could
> add the second family name if they so pleased.
>
> LWE's LW-E "nom de plume" is a "double-barreled surname," a
> wonderful term I just found.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barrelled_name
>
> I think I'd choose Browning-Mossberg if I needed one of those. {)
>
> > but "given name"
> > usually is separate from an inherited or family name.
> > Then there's nicknames, and epithets which I learned
> > about recently... and there seems to be something
> > about every Ancient Roman male for a while being given
> > the first first name "Gaius", but obviously not using it.
>
> The glorious-sounding "praenomen."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_naming_conventions
>
> Don't forget how all Sikh men use "Singh" and the women
> traditionally use "Kaur."
Some people, notably including S.M. Stirling in at least one of the SCA Rides
Again! stories, mistranslate ‘Kaur’ as ‘Lioness’, given that
‘Singh’ is ‘Lion’. Nope, that’s not it. Others, including
Wikipedia, say that ‘Kaur’ means ‘Princess’. According to
unimpeachable sources who may read this and would hurt me if I didn’t make
the right and proper translation, ‘Kaur’ means ‘Prince’, because all
Sikh women are at least equal to all Sikh men, meaning that they are vastly
superior to non-Sikh men.
See, I posted it. You can put the tulwar down now...
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singh
>
> Kevin R
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 07:00 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <fmd9rvFd18gU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492248 |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >Don't forget how all Sikh men use "Singh" and the women >traditionally use "Kaur." > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singh I did an election census one year for my area. Around here, the Singh / Kaur are used as middle names, while distinctive names are used for first names. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 11:56 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <se63gdp15htdbn4euakc1s25osn5ckm7cb@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #492248 |
On Sun, 20 May 2018 03:47:42 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
wrote:
>Having been raised Catholic, I was given a saint's name as a first
>name, and another one as a middle name. My surname (family name)
>is based on a third saint's name, or rather, a diminutive of one.
>That's 3 "Christian names," or near enough. At the age of 10 I was
>duped into undergoing the rite of Confirmation, at which point I
>picked another saint's name. I don't use that any more, but some of
>my siblings remember it.
>
>Two of my sisters have "double first names" of the "Mary Ann"
>format, so they have five names.
>
>In Irish-American Catholic families, the anger of your parent at
>whatever your latest infraction of the rules was could be estimated
>by how many names were used to call you to account. "Michael
>Patrick Ignatius Fitzgerald!!" was in so much more trouble than
>"Mike," "Michael," or even "Michael Patrick!" At least he never
>got the "five-name call-out."
I'm familiar with this (though no one in my family had more than three
names), but my parents did not do it. Instead, you sometimes knew
what my parents wanted by what language they called you in. If my Dad
called me in Russian ("Lavrenti Gordonovich Ivanov!"), it meant I had
missed a previous call and he was determined to get my attention this
time.
--
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar.
See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-05-20 16:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LWE -Copyright (Was: Tracking the re-Emergence of David R. Palmer) |
| Message-ID | <fmdki3Fff3tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #492259 |
In article <se63gdp15htdbn4euakc1s25osn5ckm7cb@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 May 2018 03:47:42 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Having been raised Catholic, I was given a saint's name as a first
>>name, and another one as a middle name. My surname (family name)
>>is based on a third saint's name, or rather, a diminutive of one.
>>That's 3 "Christian names," or near enough. At the age of 10 I was
>>duped into undergoing the rite of Confirmation, at which point I
>>picked another saint's name. I don't use that any more, but some of
>>my siblings remember it.
>>
>>Two of my sisters have "double first names" of the "Mary Ann"
>>format, so they have five names.
>>
>>In Irish-American Catholic families, the anger of your parent at
>>whatever your latest infraction of the rules was could be estimated
>>by how many names were used to call you to account. "Michael
>>Patrick Ignatius Fitzgerald!!" was in so much more trouble than
>>"Mike," "Michael," or even "Michael Patrick!" At least he never
>>got the "five-name call-out."
>
>I'm familiar with this (though no one in my family had more than three
>names), but my parents did not do it. Instead, you sometimes knew
>what my parents wanted by what language they called you in. If my Dad
>called me in Russian ("Lavrenti Gordonovich Ivanov!"), it meant I had
>missed a previous call and he was determined to get my attention this
>time.
>
This thread is making me think, "Harcourt Fenton Mudd!"
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