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  YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:07 -0500
    Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-03 21:20 -0500
      Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2018-05-03 21:02 -0700
      Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-05-03 21:38 -0700
        Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2018-05-06 22:29 -0700
      Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2018-05-04 15:42 +1000
        Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 07:14 -0700
          Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-04 14:51 +0000
          Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 09:16 -0700
          Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-05-04 13:12 -0700
        Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-05-04 15:20 -0700
        Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality banjo@dontspam.silent.com - 2018-05-04 23:37 +0100
    Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-05-03 21:04 -0600
      Re: YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-05-04 03:36 +0000

#491651 — YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality

YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality

"Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
quest. The “punch line” of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
years old."

"I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."

From:
     https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/

Lynn

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#491658

On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>
> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
> years old."
>
> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>
> From:
>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/

... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?

Dave, rings a bell
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#491668

In article <ddednTuctdP6XnbHnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
daviddelaney@earthlink.net says...
> 
> On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> > YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
> >
> > "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets
> > an Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there
> > mutual quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is
> > already 60,000 years old."
> >
> > "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not
> > sure."
> >
> > From: https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
> 
> ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was,
> story?
> 
> Dave, rings a bell

Sounds like a Draco's Tavern to me, too - I do know I've read it, and I
think more recently than I read Clarke's Tales from the White Hart. The
human decided that after 60,000 years the alien was still obsessed with
immortality to the exclusion of just about anything else, he was going
to drop the idea and enjoy life while he has it however long that might
be.

-- 

Kay Shapero
Address munged, try my first name at kayshapero dot net.

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#491670

On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney
<daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>>
>> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
>> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
>> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
>> years old."
>>
>> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>>
>> From:
>>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>
>... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
>
>Dave, rings a bell

     It does for me, too.  I just got out _The Draco Tavern_
collection, and it is not one of them.  It also is not in Niven's
bibliography at <http://news.larryniven.net/biblio>.

     Spoiler: The Niven story that I (and probably you) are thinking
of <rot13>raqf jvgu fbzrguvat yvxr gung ab yvsr vf ybat rabhtu hayrff
lbh yvir vg sbe nyy vg vf jbegu</rot13>.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#491804

In article <unmned5uaa10qd2g0pblakq466cu5vs2k5@4ax.com>, genew@telus.net 
says...
> 
>      Spoiler: The Niven story that I (and probably you) are thinking
> of <rot13>raqf jvgu fbzrguvat yvxr gung ab yvsr vf ybat rabhtu hayrff
> lbh yvir vg sbe nyy vg vf jbegu</rot13>.
> 
Yeppers, that was the one I was thinking of.


-- 

Kay Shapero
Address munged, try my first name at kayshapero dot net.

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#491677

On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
| On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
|> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
|>
|> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
|> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
|> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
|> years old."
|>
|> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
|>
|> From:
|>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
|
| ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?


Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
Series" short story collection.

It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
old, but its a pretty good match.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.     http://andor.dropbear.id.au/
  Asking for technical help in newsgroups?  Read this first:
     http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro

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#491702

Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> | On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> |> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
> |>
> |> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
> |> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
> |> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
> |> years old."
> |>
> |> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
> |>
> |> From:
> |>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
> |
> | ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
> 
> 
> Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
> Series" short story collection.
> 
> It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
> old, but its a pretty good match.

When "Cautionary Tales" ran in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, the two talking at the table made the cover illustration.  The human looked like the magazine's namesake, and, this being the first IA'sfm I'd run across, I took it to be unassociated with any story - just the boss wining and dining on the company expense account - and after connecting it to the story, wondered how often the editor and cover artist conspired to put his image as well as likeness on the cover.

-- 
-Jack

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#491706

Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Colquhoun wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> | On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> |> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality  
>> |>
>> |> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an
>> |> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual
>> |> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000
>> |> years old."
>> |>
>> |> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>> |>
>> |> From:  
>> |>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>> |
>> | ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
>>
>>
>> Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
>> Series" short story collection.
>>
>> It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
>> old, but its a pretty good match.
>
> When "Cautionary Tales" ran in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine,
> the two talking at the table made the cover illustration.  The human
> looked like the magazine's namesake, and, this being the first IA'sfm
> I'd run across, I took it to be unassociated with any story - just
> the boss wining and dining on the company expense account - and after
> connecting it to the story, wondered how often the editor and cover
> artist conspired to put his image as well as likeness on the cover.

A dead-tree version of Hitch's own cameo ploy. [1] Your question about
the existence of other such covers is good question, Jack. Here's a link
to the IA cameo cover that you mention. [2]

Note.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alfred_Hitchcock_cameo_appearances
2. http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/fb/IASFM002.jpg

✍

Thank you,

-- 
Don

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#491711

D B Davis wrote:
> Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > When "Cautionary Tales" ran in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine,
> > the two talking at the table made the cover illustration.  The human
> > looked like the magazine's namesake, and, this being the first IA'sfm
> > I'd run across, I took it to be unassociated with any story - just
> > the boss wining and dining on the company expense account - and after
> > connecting it to the story, wondered how often the editor and cover
> > artist conspired to put his image as well as likeness on the cover.
> 
> A dead-tree version of Hitch's own cameo ploy. [1] Your question about
> the existence of other such covers is good question, Jack. Here's a link
> to the IA cameo cover that you mention:
> 
> Note.
> 
> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alfred_Hitchcock_cameo_appearances
> 2. http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/fb/IASFM002.jpg

Alfred Hitchcock's Mystery Magazine was the publisher's template for IA'sfm.  AHMM would use a photo or caricature of its namesake in his personality for their covers, which Asimov's followed for a few issues before reducing it to a locket-picture within the "O" of the title over conventional sf art.  I see they eschewed the "O" picture on this cover.

-- 
-Jack

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#491735

On Friday, 4 May 2018 15:14:31 UTC+1, Jack Bohn  wrote:
> Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> > On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > | On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> > |> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
> > |>
> > |> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
> > |> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
> > |> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
> > |> years old."
> > |>
> > |> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
> > |>
> > |> From:
> > |>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
> > |
> > | ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
> > 
> > 
> > Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
> > Series" short story collection.
> > 
> > It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
> > old, but its a pretty good match.
> 
> When "Cautionary Tales" ran in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, the two talking at the table made the cover illustration.  The human looked like the magazine's namesake, and, this being the first IA'sfm I'd run across, I took it to be unassociated with any story - just the boss wining and dining on the company expense account - and after connecting it to the story, wondered how often the editor and cover artist conspired to put his image as well as likeness on the cover.

It could be read as Asimov personally identifying with 
the character.  I don't specifically recall, but I don't
have a sense of him not wanting to live a long time.

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#491739

On Fri, 04 May 2018 15:42:03 +1000, Paul Colquhoun
<newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>| On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>|> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>|>
>|> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
>|> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
>|> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
>|> years old."
>|>
>|> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>|>
>|> From:
>|>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>|
>| ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
>
>
>Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
>Series" short story collection.
>
>It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
>old, but its a pretty good match.

     I asked at http://news.larryniven.net/, and the reply I got from
Dave Lambert was:

'The story is "Cautionary Tales,"? first appeared in Asimov's in the
summer of 1978. It it not a Draco Tavern story but it could be - it's
a short vignette, a brief conversation with an alien about a very
large topic, in this case immortality.'

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#491741

On Fri, 04 May 2018 15:42:03 +1000, Paul Colquhoun
<newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 May 2018 21:20:23 -0500, David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>| On 2018-05-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>|> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>|>
>|> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets an 
>|> Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual 
>|> quest. The ???punch line??? of the story is that the alien is already 60,000 
>|> years old."
>|>
>|> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>|>
>|> From:
>|>      https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>|
>| ... Might be a Niven? Specifically a Draco's Bar, I think it was, story?
>
>
>Could it be "Cautionary Tales" by Niven? My copy is in the "Convergent
>Series" short story collection.
>
>It's only about 5 pages long. The alien is only about 10,000 earth years
>old, but its a pretty good match.

"Cautionary Tales" is also in the "Playground of the Mind".

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#491662

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>
> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets
> an Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual
> quest. The “punch line” of the story is that the alien is already
> 60,000 years old."
>
> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>
> From:
>     https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>
> Lynn

https://www.sciencealert.com/ascendance-biomedical-biohacker-ceo-aaron-traywick-found-deceased

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#491664

Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> YASID: Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality
>>
>> "Looking for a short story about a man seeking immortality. He Meets
>> an Alien who is also seeking immortality and they discuss there mutual
>> quest. The "punch line" of the story is that the alien is already
>> 60,000 years old."
>>
>> "I think the Author was either A. C. Clarke or Asimov but I am not sure."
>>
>> From:
>>     https://best-sci-fi-books.com/contact/
>>
>> Lynn
>
> https://www.sciencealert.com/ascendance-biomedical-biohacker-ceo-aaron-traywick-found-deceased

Subcutaneous insertion of a small neodymium magnet near the tip of the
non-dominant ring finger [1] is the gateway biohack for many grinders.
Some bad boys cut themselves without the benefit of lidocaine.
    You need to coat the magnet with an inert and biosafe material
before you implant it. Implant grade silicone makes a good coating.
    The implanted magnet enables you to perform magic tricks after all
of the pain and suffering subsides. Some grinders say that they can feel
the EM radiation from RFID anti-theft devices found in some retail
stores.  

Note.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_implant

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Thank you,

-- 
Don

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