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  The Martian Chronicler falls short a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 08:50 -0700
    Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-28 16:32 +0000
    Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-28 17:02 +0000
      Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 22:30 -0500
        Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-29 04:05 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-29 12:19 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-04-29 13:30 +0100
              Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-29 15:13 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-29 13:55 -0700
              Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2018-04-30 17:29 +1000
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-29 06:35 -0700
              Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-29 16:32 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-29 15:09 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 18:52 -0500
              Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-30 13:27 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-30 08:22 -0600
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:57 -0500
              Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:59 -0500
          Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-04-30 17:54 -0700
            Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-01 05:25 +0000
    Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 22:52 -0700
    The Martian Chronicler falls short Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-29 13:33 -0700
      Re: The Martian Chronicler falls short J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 17:41 -0400

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#491213 — The Martian Chronicler falls short

One of many relevant in
"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"

was this one

"The Martian Chronicler falls short

Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as classic 
novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and 
inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least 
mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic 
dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt," 
but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by his 
story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney adaptation 
Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly influential 
sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document colonial life on the 
planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to clarify).

Speaking of which, Bradbury's often terrifying and prescient 
conceptualization of the future sometimes got a little bit ahead of 
itself. Back in 1950, the prolific author predicted that nuclear war 
would force us onto Mars by the 2000s. Fortunately, we were too busy 
"drinking beer and watching soap operas," to quote Mr. Bradbury, to make 
the colonization of Mars happen. Hey, at least we launched that rover 
thingy, right?

Colonization technology may be in its infancy, but NASA and other 
high-tech companies are working on landing humans on the red planet. 
Bradbury's futurism, if a tad optimistic, continues to inspire future 
generations to reach for the stars and the red planet, if they're not 
wasting their life reaching for craft ales and viral cat videos, 
instead. Thanks, Ray."

Read More: 
http://www.grunge.com/47611/past-predictions-future-way-way/?utm_campaign=clip

Read More: 
http://www.grunge.com/47611/past-predictions-future-way-way/?utm_campaign=clip

http://www.grunge.com/47611/past-predictions-future-way-way/

also (with some decent graphics),

"Popular Science pops off
from visualoop.com
Vintage Infographic The Spaceman (c. 1920)

Throughout its 144-year history, Popular Science spent the majority of 
its time covering interesting topics from the world of science and 
technology. The long-running magazine has also, on numerous occasions, 
peered into the future — with limited degrees of success.

Back in 1963, Pop Sci ran a feature about "Tomorrow's Man." The two 
doctors that wrote it seemed to think the future human, with its 
adaptable body type, was ready for some major hardware upgrades. Looking 
like a reject from a Borg/Pulp Fiction gimp cosplay crossover, the 
Tomorrow Man is decked out in a cybernetic flight helmet with goggles 
and a breathing tube. He rides his atomic tricycle to victory over the 
world of common sense (and good taste), armed with his "atom chaser" and 
video antennas, solar light replicator (what exactly happens to the sun 
in this future?), atomic jet pack, and a kooky "digital computer" 
strapped to his side — at least that came true. To be honest, we're 
looking more like the Tusken Raider of tomorrow.

Even better, apparently their prediction was made before the days of 
Radiation is bad, mmmkay?, so the future human is decked out in atomic 
and gamma-powered gear. Basically, our future selves are either on the 
verge of species-wide cancer epidemic or about to turn into the 
Incredible Hulk."

Read More: 
http://www.grunge.com/47611/past-predictions-future-way-way/?utm_campaign=clip

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#491217

Followup to rasw because on a good day news.eternal-september.org may
allow me to post to two groups, but never three.

a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
> One of many relevant in
> "Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>
> was this one
>
> "The Martian Chronicler falls short
>
> Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as classic
> novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and
> inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least
> mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic
> dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt,"
> but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by his
> story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney adaptation
> Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly influential
> sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document colonial life on the
> planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to clarify).
>
> Speaking of which, Bradbury's often terrifying and prescient
> conceptualization of the future sometimes got a little bit ahead of
> itself. Back in 1950, the prolific author predicted that nuclear war
> would force us onto Mars by the 2000s. Fortunately, we were too busy
> "drinking beer and watching soap operas," to quote Mr. Bradbury, to make
> the colonization of Mars happen. Hey, at least we launched that rover
> thingy, right?
>
> Colonization technology may be in its infancy, but NASA and other
> high-tech companies are working on landing humans on the red planet.
> Bradbury's futurism, if a tad optimistic, continues to inspire future
> generations to reach for the stars and the red planet, if they're not
> wasting their life reaching for craft ales and viral cat videos,
> instead. Thanks, Ray."
>

Bradbury's a favorite of mine, probably because he evokes E A Poe in my
mind. Short stories are my thing and _Martian Chronicles_ (MC) fires on
all eight cylinders for me. YMMV.
    Bradbury used to keep a file cabinet full of partially written
stories that he polished as the spirit moved him. The theme of the MC
collection is the colonization of Mars. Other than that, the stories
stand-alone. ♂

Thank you,

-- 
Don

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#491218

In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>,
a425couple  <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>One of many relevant in
>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>
>was this one
>
>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
>
>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as classic 
>novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and 
>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least 
>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic 
>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt," 
>but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by his 
>story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney adaptation 
>Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly influential 
>sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document colonial life on the 
>planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to clarify).

Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles
>


-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#491238

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:p7wnC4.20Ho@kithrup.com: 

> In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>,
> a425couple  <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>One of many relevant in
>>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>>
>>was this one
>>
>>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
>>
>>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as
>>classic novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and 
>>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least 
>>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic 
>>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt,"
>>but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by
>>his story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney
>>adaptation Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly
>>influential sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document
>>colonial life on the planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to
>>clarify). 
> 
> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles 

Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.

pt

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#491240

In article <XnsA8D2EF1B08796melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>news:p7wnC4.20Ho@kithrup.com: 
>
>> In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>,
>> a425couple  <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>One of many relevant in
>>>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>>>
>>>was this one
>>>
>>>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
>>>
>>>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as
>>>classic novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and 
>>>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least 
>>>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic 
>>>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt,"
>>>but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by
>>>his story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney
>>>adaptation Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly
>>>influential sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document
>>>colonial life on the planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to
>>>clarify). 
>> 
>> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
>> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles 
>
>Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.

Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
them??) but no player.  I think I'll have to get the DVD the next
time I have a little cash.  The Martians were authentically
beautiful.  And I particularly remember Roddy MacDowell as a
young priest....

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#491253

Followup to rec.arts.sf.written because news.eternal-september.org
doesn't allow me to post to more than one or two groups.

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <XnsA8D2EF1B08796melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
> Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>news:p7wnC4.20Ho@kithrup.com:
>>
>>> In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>,
>>> a425couple  <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>One of many relevant in
>>>>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>>>>
>>>>was this one
>>>>
>>>>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
>>>>
>>>>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as
>>>>classic novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and
>>>>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least
>>>>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic
>>>>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt,"
>>>>but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by
>>>>his story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney
>>>>adaptation Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly
>>>>influential sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document
>>>>colonial life on the planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to
>>>>clarify).
>>>
>>> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
>>> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles
>>
>>Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.
>
> Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
> them??) but no player.  I think I'll have to get the DVD the next
> time I have a little cash.  The Martians were authentically
> beautiful.  And I particularly remember Roddy MacDowell as a
> young priest....
>

The TV episode where Roddy MacDowell appears is a Hollywood treatment of 
"The Fire Balloons" (Bradbury). "The Fire Balloons" doesn't appear in 
_The Martian Chronicles_, instead it's in _The Illustrated Man_.
    The two missionaries, at least superficially, look like they belong
to a Spanish mission in California. Their appearance makes it easy for 
me to imagine them both as Catholic priests. But the Bradbury actually 
portrays them as Episcopalian Fathers.
    BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google 
groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
    It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
symbol for male. ♂

Thank you,

-- 
Don

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#491255

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:19:47 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
wrote:

>    It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
>being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>symbol for male. ?

Thanks to the wonders of Usenet clients (and fonts), that'll render
usefully in about 5% of people's readers. Here it's a question mark.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are.

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#491269

In article <glebeddtrcfqc08jl9i74s50d36rnc0p3c@4ax.com>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh  <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:19:47 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
>wrote:
>
>>    It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>>character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
>>being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>>symbol for male. ?
>
>Thanks to the wonders of Usenet clients (and fonts), that'll render
>usefully in about 5% of people's readers. Here it's a question mark.

For me also.

>Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are.

That's a paraphrase of Nelson Algren's "three rules" which begin,
"Never play cards with a man called Doc; never eat at a place
called Mom's ..."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#491282

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 11:30:06 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <glebeddtrcfqc08jl9i74s50d36rnc0p3c@4ax.com>,
> Jaimie Vandenbergh  <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:19:47 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>    It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
> >>character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
> >>being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
> >>symbol for male. ?
> >
> >Thanks to the wonders of Usenet clients (and fonts), that'll render
> >usefully in about 5% of people's readers. Here it's a question mark.
> 
> For me also.
> 
> >Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are.
> 
> That's a paraphrase of Nelson Algren's "three rules" which begin,
> "Never play cards with a man called Doc; never eat at a place
> called Mom's ..."

When I lived in Milwaukee, one of the few 24-hour places to eat
was "Ma Fischer's," on the same block as the Oriental Landmark 
Theater.  It has long been owned by a Greek family, named Panos,
shortened from Panagiotopoulos.

One of the Panos kids was captain of the University of Wisconsin
football team, and played 7 seasons in the NFL.

"Ma," sold out to the Panos family in 1975, but there's now a
statue of the founder, outside the restaurant.

https://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/mafischerstatue.html

Classic "Greek diner food," with an enormous menu.  Eating at 
"Ma's" after the midnight showing of Rocky Horror, after bar time,
was always a trip.

Kevin R

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#491322

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> writes:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:19:47 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
> wrote:
>
>>    It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>>character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
>>being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>>symbol for male. ?
>
> Thanks to the wonders of Usenet clients (and fonts), that'll render
> usefully in about 5% of people's readers. Here it's a question mark.
>
> 	Cheers - Jaimie

It worked fine in gnus (within gnu emacs).

-- 
Stephen Harker                       sjharker@netspace.net.au
                    http://sjharker.customer.netspace.net.au/

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#491260

On Sunday, 29 April 2018 13:19:49 UTC+1, D B Davis  wrote:
> Followup to rec.arts.sf.written because news.eternal-september.org
> doesn't allow me to post to more than one or two groups.
> 
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> > In article <XnsA8D2EF1B08796melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
> > Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
> >>news:p7wnC4.20Ho@kithrup.com:
> >>
> >>> In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>,
> >>> a425couple  <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>One of many relevant in
> >>>>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
> >>>>
> >>>>was this one
> >>>>
> >>>>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
> >>>>
> >>>>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as
> >>>>classic novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and
> >>>>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least
> >>>>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic
> >>>>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The Veldt,"
> >>>>but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely inspired by
> >>>>his story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his disquieting Disney
> >>>>adaptation Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then there's his highly
> >>>>influential sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles, which document
> >>>>colonial life on the planet Mars (not on Bruno or Veronica, just to
> >>>>clarify).
> >>>
> >>> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
> >>> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles
> >>
> >>Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.
> >
> > Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
> > them??) but no player.  I think I'll have to get the DVD the next
> > time I have a little cash.  The Martians were authentically
> > beautiful.  And I particularly remember Roddy MacDowell as a
> > young priest....
> >
> 
> The TV episode where Roddy MacDowell appears is a Hollywood treatment of 
> "The Fire Balloons" (Bradbury). "The Fire Balloons" doesn't appear in 
> _The Martian Chronicles_, instead it's in _The Illustrated Man_.
>     The two missionaries, at least superficially, look like they belong
> to a Spanish mission in California. Their appearance makes it easy for 
> me to imagine them both as Catholic priests. But the Bradbury actually 
> portrays them as Episcopalian Fathers.
>     BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
> characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
> to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google 
> groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
>     It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
> symbol for male. ♂
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -- 
> Don

UTF-8 is a Unicode encoding that includes plain ASCII - and I wondered
if you knew that your male symbol was being displayed!  ☺

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#491272

Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 April 2018 13:19:49 UTC+1, D B Davis  wrote:

<snip>

>>     BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
>> characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
>> to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google
>> groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
>>     It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time
>> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>> symbol for male. ♂
>
> UTF-8 is a Unicode encoding that includes plain ASCII - and I wondered
> if you knew that your male symbol was being displayed!  ☺

My newsreader tin displays your smiley. My tin configuration calls vi to
edit followups. Although vi also knows about UTF-8 for reasons 
unbeknownst to me when used as a tin editor vi displays �\x99\x82 
instead of ☺ and �\x98� instead of ♂. (It ought to be interesting to
see how /that/ mess plays out during this next iteration.)
    My M O is to just use vi enough to copy and paste the initial
followup into gedit, which is a far better editor. My new software then 
allows me to post my final draft of a gedit followup with embedded 
UTF-8 characters.
    My UTF-8 posts to rasw are mostly to beta-test my new software and
for the (lame) lulz. Ultimately it will pay dividends in the math and 
physics groups. People in those groups tend to be a little ... 
different. More of them, or at least the ones worth paying attention to,
probably use UTF-8. (End mark change to celebrate new topic.) ⚛

Thank you,

-- 
Don

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#491268

In article <20180429b@crcomp.net>, D B Davis  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>    BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
>characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
>to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google 
>groups also enables the use of UTF-8.

I believe Brian still posts.  Not as frequently as of yore, but
that's true of all of us.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#491298

D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180429b@crcomp.net:

> Followup to rec.arts.sf.written because news.eternal-september.org
> doesn't allow me to post to more than one or two groups.
> 
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> In article <XnsA8D2EF1B08796melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
>> Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>news:p7wnC4.20Ho@kithrup.com: 
>>>
>>>> In article <pc258o01igv@news2.newsguy.com>, a425couple 
>>>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>One of many relevant in
>>>>>"Past predictions about the future that were way, way off"
>>>>>
>>>>>was this one
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Martian Chronicler falls short
>>>>>
>>>>>Responsible for dozens upon dozens of short stories, as well as
>>>>>classic novels like Fahrenheit 451 and several film adaptations and
>>>>>inspirations, Ray Bradbury made science fiction cool, or at least
>>>>>mainstream. The average reader may not be familiar with his classic
>>>>>dystopian stories such as "There Will Come Soft Rains" or "The
>>>>>Veldt," but have probably heard of The Butterfly Effect (loosely
>>>>>inspired by his story "A Sound of Thunder") as well as his
>>>>>disquieting Disney adaptation Something Wicked This Way Comes. Then
>>>>>there's his highly influential sci-fi saga The Martian Chronicles,
>>>>>which document colonial life on the planet Mars (not on Bruno or
>>>>>Veronica, just to clarify). 
>>>>
>>>> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-
>>>> tv& field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles 
>>>
>>>Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.
>>
>> Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
>> them??) but no player.  I think I'll have to get the DVD the next
>> time I have a little cash.  The Martians were authentically
>> beautiful.  And I particularly remember Roddy MacDowell as a
>> young priest....
>>
> 
> The TV episode where Roddy MacDowell appears is a Hollywood treatment
> of "The Fire Balloons" (Bradbury). "The Fire Balloons" doesn't appear
> in _The Martian Chronicles_, instead it's in _The Illustrated Man_.
>     The two missionaries, at least superficially, look like they
>     belong 
> to a Spanish mission in California. Their appearance makes it easy for
> me to imagine them both as Catholic priests. But the Bradbury actually
> portrays them as Episcopalian Fathers.
>     BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post
>     UTF-8 
> characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
> to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that
> google groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
>     It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
> symbol for male. ♂

It renders correctly in Google Groups.

In xnews, my preferred newsreader, its a lowercase 'a' with a circumflex
accent, followed by a bold character consisting two vertical bars.

In this post, as I type this, the quoted version is the same accented
a, but now followed by small 'TM' symbol well above the text line, and
a comma.

pt

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#491333

In article <XnsA8D3CA1D85AC1melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180429b@crcomp.net:

>>     It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
>> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>> symbol for male. ♂
>
>It renders correctly in Google Groups.
>
>In xnews, my preferred newsreader, its a lowercase 'a' with a circumflex
>accent, followed by a bold character consisting two vertical bars.
>
>In this post, as I type this, the quoted version is the same accented
>a, but now followed by small 'TM' symbol well above the text line, and
>a comma.

And in my version of trn, it's lowercase-a-with-circumflex,
ctrl-Y. ctrl-B.

But as I type this, using vi, I'm seeing backslash-xe2,
backslash-x99, backslash-x82.


-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#491338

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:

>In article <XnsA8D3CA1D85AC1melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
>Cryptoengineer  <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20180429b@crcomp.net:
>
>>>     It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>>> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time 
>>> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>>> symbol for male. ♂
>>
>>It renders correctly in Google Groups.
>>
>>In xnews, my preferred newsreader, its a lowercase 'a' with a circumflex
>>accent, followed by a bold character consisting two vertical bars.
>>
>>In this post, as I type this, the quoted version is the same accented
>>a, but now followed by small 'TM' symbol well above the text line, and
>>a comma.
>
>And in my version of trn, it's lowercase-a-with-circumflex,
>ctrl-Y. ctrl-B.
>
>But as I type this, using vi, I'm seeing backslash-xe2,
>backslash-x99, backslash-x82.
The original showed as a question mark.  Most of the replies show it
as a-circumflex TM
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#491439

On 4/29/2018 7:19 AM, D B Davis wrote:
...
>      BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
> characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
> to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google
> groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
>      It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time
> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
> symbol for male. ♂

UTF-8 works fine in Thunderbird x86 version 52.7.0 on Windows 7 x64.

Lynn

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#491440

On 5/1/2018 1:57 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 7:19 AM, D B Davis wrote:
> ...
>>      BTW, my new usenet software application enables me to now post UTF-8
>> characters. It's a shame that Brian M Scott apparently stopped posting
>> to rasw because he likes to use UTF-8. It's my understanding that google
>> groups also enables the use of UTF-8.
>>      It enables me to close each of my posts with an end mark. The
>> character at the end of this paragraph is my end mark for the time
>> being. It's the UTF-8 symbol for Mars, which doubles as the medical
>> symbol for male. ♂
> 
> UTF-8 works fine in Thunderbird x86 version 52.7.0 on Windows 7 x64.
> 
> Lynn

I should point out that Windows 7 x64 (and x86) are natively UTF-16 so 
the programmer has to convert on the fly constantly between UTF-8 and 
UTF-16.  We just recently did some work in our software to add UTF-8 
support which was quite interesting in a teeth pulling kind of way.

Lynn

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#491401

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 2:30:04 PM UTC+10, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

<The Martian Chronicles>

> >> 
> >> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
> >> 
> >> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
> >> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles 
> >
> >Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.
> 
> Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
> them??) but no player.

Have you considered selling it? There are collectors out there willing to pay good money for ancient tech. The two copies I see on ebay are going for close to $100.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MARTIAN-CHRONICLES-Laserdisc-Box-Set-of-3-Ray-Bradbury-Sci-Fi-TV-Sealed-LD/312100749522?hash=item48aaa780d2:g:TDAAAOSwQ7hawV5B

This would give you enough for...

> I think I'll have to get the DVD the next
> time I have a little cash.

...with plenty of change leftover.

-Moriarty

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#491420

In article <1378f595-c99a-45d6-ad57-6e9cdbdc770f@googlegroups.com>,
Moriarty  <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 2:30:04 PM UTC+10, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
><The Martian Chronicles>
>
>> >> 
>> >> Which got a magnificent TV adaptation.
>> >> 
>> >> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&
>> >> field-keywords=The+Martian+Chronicles 
>> >
>> >Indeed. I recall it well. I didn't realize it had been released.
>> 
>> Oh yes, for some time now.  I have a Laser Disc of it (remember
>> them??) but no player.
>
>Have you considered selling it? There are collectors out there willing
>to pay good money for ancient tech. The two copies I see on ebay are
>going for close to $100.

Hm.  I would be willing to sell it if I could find

(a) the disk itself, which is in a box somewhere, and

(b) a buyer.

If I ever come across (a) in the course of cleaning up the house
(a very slow process, considering my age and my CFS), I'll
attempt (b).

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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