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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-03-15 23:15 -0700 |
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Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-15 23:15 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? T Guy <tim.bateman1961@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 04:59 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 09:39 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-16 09:25 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-16 10:18 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-16 17:49 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 16:59 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-17 10:53 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-17 13:08 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 23:46 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-17 16:55 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 19:03 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 14:53 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 21:21 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 19:12 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 15:15 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 23:02 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 21:33 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 08:45 +0000
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-19 09:22 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-23 10:46 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-24 10:21 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 00:54 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 00:59 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 20:48 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-26 00:06 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-26 19:00 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 10:37 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 15:51 -0700
Re: Does Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 23:30 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-22 13:29 -0700
Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 01:41 +0000
A more considered response to Mr.Hanson Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 11:00 +0100
Re: A more considered response to Mr.Hanson "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 13:26 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-15 23:15 -0700 |
| Subject | Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? |
| Message-ID | <5AAB611D.47AB@ix.netcom.com> |
I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. so, the question is.. what are all these ...talking people???? People that talk. Or at least it appears they are talking.. I come to one conclusion.. it's just...Talking Rocks. Somehow, rocks started talking. could be in the early years when the clay turned to rocks.. some of that clay contained...stuff that talks. Now, you got walking talking rocks... and rockit ships searching on other rocks in space diggin through rocks searching for.. Talking Rocks. Rocks that talk. I guess if you searching for life on Mars.. you look through the rocks. See what they say.
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| From | T Guy <tim.bateman1961@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 04:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <caab8323-53b9-4d65-9fa3-55c4b8dd2552@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 6:15:17 AM UTC, The Starmaker wrote: > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. Try taking your eyes off the mirror.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 09:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AABF33A.2573@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488596 |
T Guy wrote: > > On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 6:15:17 AM UTC, The Starmaker wrote: > > > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > Try taking your eyes off the mirror. It's not a mirror, it's a 'rock' that has been made to reflect...rocks. talking rocks. I was right, intelligent life does not exist on Earth. How does the T Guy get inside? https://youtu.be/inyLP_t9M4A
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| From | Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 09:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7padnQauBZ6PbTbHnZ2dnUU7-VvNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:5AAB611D.47AB@ix.netcom.com... I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. ***After following this NG for over a decade now and responding to the warped and skewed oratory of self professed scientists and pseudo know-it-alls, it appears that we have quite a ways to go until the first vestiges of intelligence manifest themselves,
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 10:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d92a66e4-5bf1-4fbd-8445-4d3ab4850246@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #488603 |
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 12:26:03 PM UTC-4, Hägar wrote: > "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:5AAB611D.47AB@ix.netcom.com... > > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > > ***After following this NG for over a decade now and responding > to the warped and skewed oratory of self professed scientists and > pseudo know-it-alls, it appears that we have quite a ways to go > until the first vestiges of intelligence manifest themselves, Don't you love the way the cross-posters like to tell us about "the newsgroup?" rec.arts.sf.written? Not likely. sci.physics or sci.physics.relativity or alt.astronomy...? Kevin R
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 17:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20180316c@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #488610 |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 12:26:03 PM UTC-4, H\xc3\xa4gar wrote: >> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:5AAB611D.47AB@ix.netcom.com... >> >> I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. >> >> >> ***After following this NG for over a decade now and responding >> to the warped and skewed oratory of self professed scientists and >> pseudo know-it-alls, it appears that we have quite a ways to go >> until the first vestiges of intelligence manifest themselves, > > Don't you love the way the cross-posters like to tell us about > "the newsgroup?" > > rec.arts.sf.written? Not likely. > > > sci.physics or sci.physics.relativity or alt.astronomy...? > Fine works of word-smithery are always appreciated by me. Even if their author posts from the inside of an institute. Thank you, -- Don
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| From | "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-17 16:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p8jhhf$hat$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #488610 |
Kevrob wrote: > Don't you love the way the cross-posters like to tell us about > "the newsgroup?" > > rec.arts.sf.written? Not likely. > > > sci.physics or sci.physics.relativity or alt.astronomy...? And by stripping those off, you defeated my filters. Why did you feel it important to feed the troll? Brian
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-17 10:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAD562D.7893@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488659 |
Default User wrote: > > Kevrob wrote: > > > Don't you love the way the cross-posters like to tell us about > > "the newsgroup?" > > > > rec.arts.sf.written? Not likely. > > > > > > sci.physics or sci.physics.relativity or alt.astronomy...? > > And by stripping those off, you defeated my filters. Why did you feel > it important to feed the troll? > > Brian you got to keep your bitches in line...
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-17 13:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <925b3578-4236-414c-983a-aed8248ef2c2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #488659 |
On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-4, Default User wrote: > And by stripping those off, you defeated my filters. Why did you feel > it important to feed the troll? I never crosspost. Google Groups doesn't offer that. I have my reasons for not using a newsreader. Kevin R
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| From | "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-17 23:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p8k9d1$tek$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #488663 |
Kevrob wrote: > On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-4, Default User wrote: > > > And by stripping those off, you defeated my filters. Why did you > > feel it important to feed the troll? > > I never crosspost. Google Groups doesn't offer that. Well, now you know what you're doing. > I have my reasons for not using a newsreader. Do you have a reason for feeding the trolls? Brian
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-17 16:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AADAADC.116D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488665 |
Default User wrote: > > Kevrob wrote: > > > On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-4, Default User wrote: > > > > > And by stripping those off, you defeated my filters. Why did you > > > feel it important to feed the troll? > > > > I never crosspost. Google Groups doesn't offer that. > > Well, now you know what you're doing. > > > I have my reasons for not using a newsreader. > > Do you have a reason for feeding the trolls? > > Brian keep ypur bitches in line...slap them a few times. I never met a bitch that didn't need a slap on the face once or twice.
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 19:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <WxUqC.11846$By2.6983@fx30.am4> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > See what they say. Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that i am on a galaxy which is 10,000,000,000 light years from the earth. By a bit of good planning i have my laser with me and i shine this laser at you for a whole year. The front of this laser beam will take exactly 10,000,000,000 to reach you here on Earth (hopefully you will still be alive eh!). The rear end of my laser signal will take slightly longer to reach you because the speed of light has decreased in the year i've been holding this laser. If light decreases by my suggestion of one part in 10 billion per year, the rear end of the signal will take exactly 10,000,000,001 years to reach you here on Earth. Thus the light beam from my laser is stretch by a factor of 2 ( because the end of the beam left 1 year after the start, and took 1 year longer on the journey.). However the number of waves sent will be exactly the same as the number received, (assuming you are careful and don't miss any,) so the wavelength must also have been stretched by a factor of 2. This is equivalent to a red-shift of 1, and corresponds reasonably well with what is found in practice, in our observatories. Talking Rock eh!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 14:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAC3CEE.48EA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488616 |
Keith Stein wrote: > > On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > > > See what they say. > > Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that i am on a galaxy which is > 10,000,000,000 light years from the earth. By a bit of good > planning i have my laser with me and i shine this laser at you for a > whole year. The front of this laser beam will take exactly > 10,000,000,000 to reach you here on Earth (hopefully you will still be > alive eh!). The rear end of my laser signal will take slightly longer to > reach you because the speed of light has decreased in the year i've been > holding this laser. If light decreases by my suggestion of one part in > 10 billion per year, the rear end of the signal will take exactly > 10,000,000,001 years to reach you here on Earth. > > Thus the light beam from my laser is stretch by a factor of 2 ( because > the end of the beam left 1 year after the start, and took 1 year longer > on the journey.). However the number of waves sent will be exactly the > same as the number received, (assuming you are careful and don't miss > any,) so the wavelength must also have been stretched by a factor of 2. > This is equivalent to a red-shift of 1, and corresponds reasonably well > with what is found in practice, in our observatories. > > Talking Rock eh! A cut-and-paste Rock no doubt... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/sci.physics.relativity/XoY9WEeRZLw/TCaNR4MSBgAJ
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 21:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAC97DF.7BBF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488616 |
Sergio wrote: > > On 3/16/2018 2:03 PM, Keith Stein wrote: > > On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> See what they say. > > > > Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that i am on a galaxy which is > > 10,000,000,000 light years from the earth. By a bit of good > > planning i have my laser with me and i shine this laser at you for a > > whole year. The front of this laser beam will take exactly > > 10,000,000,000 to reach you here on Earth (hopefully you will still be > > alive eh!). The rear end of my laser signal will take slightly longer to > > reach you because the speed of light has decreased in the year i've been > > holding this laser. If light decreases by my suggestion of one part in > > 10 billion per year, the rear end of the signal will take exactly > > 10,000,000,001 years to reach you here on Earth. > > > > Thus the light beam from my laser is stretch by a factor of 2 ( because > > the end of the beam left 1 year after the start, and took 1 year longer > > on the journey.). However the number of waves sent will be exactly the > > same as the number received, (assuming you are careful and don't miss > > any,) so the wavelength must also have been stretched by a factor of 2. > > This is equivalent to a red-shift of 1, and corresponds reasonably well > > with what is found in practice, in our observatories. > > > > Talking Rock eh! > > if your laser has a divergance of 0.01 mrad how much path loss is > there (1/d^2) over 10,000,000,000 light years ? > > How much power output is needed at your laser to be detectable on earth > using a photomultiplier tube ? Do you have any idea how many people can get by life without ever knowing the answer to that? Have you ever seen a two headed elephant??
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <TGUqC.4460$_J4.1214@fx28.am4> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing distance, as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all. Merely by assuming dc = -K c dt I was led to c = c(0) e^-Kt and on to Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 K ~= 10^-10 /year t = time in years
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 15:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAC41EE.66B1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488618 |
Keith Stein wrote: > > On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > > > Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it > occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this > will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing distance, > as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all. > > Merely by assuming dc = -K c dt > I was led to c = c(0) e^-Kt > and on to Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 > > K ~= 10^-10 /year > t = time in years It's that grey rock in your head talking again...
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 23:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j2YqC.5646$WW2.2344@fx08.am4> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote: > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > so, the question is.. That rocket that left Earth traveling at c(medium) a little while back, is now on its way home,still traveling at c(medium). It has it's head lights on, full-beam eh! 1. Can the folk coming home in the rocket see lights from Earth? 2 Can the folk on Earth see the rocket coming home ? > On 10/03/2018 21:29, Gary Harnagel wrote: >> On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 10:09:39 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: >>> >>> On 10/03/2018 15:37, Gary Harnagel wrote: >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 6:46:13 PM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That rocket that left Earth traveling at c(medium) a little while back, >>>>> is now on its way home,still traveling at c(medium). >>>>> >>>>> It has it's head lights on, full-beam eh! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. What is the blue-shift of those headlights, as measured on Earth? >>>>> >>>>> 2. What is the blue-shift of lights from Earth as measured at the rocket? >>>> >>>> As if it were possible for a rocket to move at c! >>> >>> c(medium) is certainly possible IN PRINCIPLE. >> >> "Principle" has nothing to do with it. The Fizeau moving-water experiment >> refuted your guess. >> >>>> But if it were, blue-shift would be infinite in both cases, >>> >>> NO and N0 >> >> The Doppler equations (both classical and relativistic) refute your arrogant >> assertion. > what are all these ...talking people???? > > People that talk. > > Or at least it appears they are talking.. > > I come to one conclusion.. > > it's just...Talking Rocks. > > > Somehow, rocks started talking. > > > could be in the early years > when the clay turned to rocks.. > > some of that clay contained...stuff > > that talks. > > > Now, you got walking talking rocks... > > and rockit ships > > searching on other > > rocks in space > > diggin through rocks > > searching for.. > > Talking Rocks. > > Rocks that talk. > > > I guess if you searching for life on Mars.. > > you look through the rocks. > > > See what they say. >
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 21:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAC9AA9.1D43@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488593 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > so, the question is.. > > what are all these ...talking people???? > > People that talk. > > Or at least it appears they are talking.. > > I come to one conclusion.. > > it's just...Talking Rocks. > > Somehow, rocks started talking. > > could be in the early years > when the clay turned to rocks.. > > some of that clay contained...stuff > > that talks. > > Now, you got walking talking rocks... > > and rockit ships > > searching on other > > rocks in space > > diggin through rocks > > searching for.. > > Talking Rocks. > > Rocks that talk. > > I guess if you searching for life on Mars.. > > you look through the rocks. > > See what they say. The biggest city in the U.S. is a rock jungle...They call it....The Asphalt Jungle.
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-19 08:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MMKrC.43247$Oy5.39980@fx11.am4> |
| In reply to | #488647 |
On 17/03/2018 04:33, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth..
Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it
occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this
will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing distance,
as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all.
Merely by assuming dc = -K c dt ..................(1)
I was led to c = c(0) e^-Kt ...............(2)
and on to Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 .........(3)
K ~= 10^-10 /year
t = time in years
Only after starting the PHYSICS PRIZE thread, in which i was trying to
enlist the help of sci.physics.relativity readers to obtain a more
accurate value of K, did the obvious solution occur to me...........
K = H = Hubble's Constant
and t = -t ( so times past become +ve)
which substituted in (3) gives:
Red-Shift = e^Ht - 1 .........(4)
then for times which are small compared to 1/H (i.e. small compared
to the 'age of the universe'), we may use the approximation:
e^x ~= 1 + x .................(5)
So for t << 1/H we have:
Red-Shift = H * t ............(6)
which is of course the normal "Hubble's Law", valid only
for modest times into the past ( t < ~5 billion years).
As our telescopes manage to see further out into space, and therefore
further back in time, we will find that the normal linear Hubble's Law
expressed in equation(6), will have to be replaced by the more accurate
exponential form expressed in equation(4). This is indeed what is found
in observatories all around the world eh!
Conclusions:
1. The speed of light in intergalactic-space is slowing down.
2. There was no "Big Bang"
3. There was no "Inflation"
4. The galaxies are not accelerating away from us.
5. There is no "Dark Energy"
>> so, the question is..
>>
>> what are all these ...talking people????
>>
>> People that talk.
>>
>> Or at least it appears they are talking..
>>
>> I come to one conclusion..
>>
>> it's just...Talking Rocks.
>>
>> Somehow, rocks started talking.
>>
>> could be in the early years
>> when the clay turned to rocks..
>>
>> some of that clay contained...stuff
>>
>> that talks.
>>
>> Now, you got walking talking rocks...
>>
>> and rockit ships
>>
>> searching on other
>>
>> rocks in space
>>
>> diggin through rocks
>>
>> searching for..
>>
>> Talking Rocks.
>>
>> Rocks that talk.
>>
>> I guess if you searching for life on Mars..
>>
>> you look through the rocks.
>>
>> See what they say.
>
>
> The biggest city in the U.S. is a rock jungle...They call it....The
> Asphalt Jungle.
>
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-19 09:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5AAFE3D3.51AE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #488698 |
Keith Stein wrote: > > On 17/03/2018 04:33, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> I yet to see any evidence of intelligent life on earth.. > > Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it > occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this > will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing distance, > as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all. > > Merely by assuming dc = -K c dt ..................(1) > I was led to c = c(0) e^-Kt ...............(2) > and on to Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 .........(3) > > K ~= 10^-10 /year > t = time in years > > Only after starting the PHYSICS PRIZE thread, in which i was trying to > enlist the help of sci.physics.relativity readers to obtain a more > accurate value of K, did the obvious solution occur to me........... > > K = H = Hubble's Constant > and t = -t ( so times past become +ve) > > which substituted in (3) gives: > > Red-Shift = e^Ht - 1 .........(4) > > then for times which are small compared to 1/H (i.e. small compared > to the 'age of the universe'), we may use the approximation: > e^x ~= 1 + x .................(5) > > So for t << 1/H we have: > > Red-Shift = H * t ............(6) > > which is of course the normal "Hubble's Law", valid only > for modest times into the past ( t < ~5 billion years). > > As our telescopes manage to see further out into space, and therefore > further back in time, we will find that the normal linear Hubble's Law > expressed in equation(6), will have to be replaced by the more accurate > exponential form expressed in equation(4). This is indeed what is found > in observatories all around the world eh! > > Conclusions: > 1. The speed of light in intergalactic-space is slowing down. > 2. There was no "Big Bang" > 3. There was no "Inflation" > 4. The galaxies are not accelerating away from us. > 5. There is no "Dark Energy" By virtue of the authority vested in me by the Universitartus Committiartum E Pluribus Unum, I hereby confer upon you the honorary degree of ThD. > > >> so, the question is.. > >> > >> what are all these ...talking people???? > >> > >> People that talk. > >> > >> Or at least it appears they are talking.. > >> > >> I come to one conclusion.. > >> > >> it's just...Talking Rocks. > >> > >> Somehow, rocks started talking. > >> > >> could be in the early years > >> when the clay turned to rocks.. > >> > >> some of that clay contained...stuff > >> > >> that talks. > >> > >> Now, you got walking talking rocks... > >> > >> and rockit ships > >> > >> searching on other > >> > >> rocks in space > >> > >> diggin through rocks > >> > >> searching for.. > >> > >> Talking Rocks. > >> > >> Rocks that talk. > >> > >> I guess if you searching for life on Mars.. > >> > >> you look through the rocks. > >> > >> See what they say. > > > > > > The biggest city in the U.S. is a rock jungle...They call it....The > > Asphalt Jungle. > >
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