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| First post | 2018-03-15 13:24 +0000 |
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[Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-15 13:24 +0000
Re: [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-15 10:23 -0700
Re: [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-16 15:16 +0000
Re: [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-16 09:05 -0700
Re: [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-16 16:56 +0000
Re: [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-16 09:25 -0700
| From | jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) |
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| Date | 2018-03-15 13:24 +0000 |
| Subject | [Young People Read Old SFF] The Man Who Traveled in Elephants |
| Message-ID | <p8ds6q$fga$1@reader2.panix.com> |
The Man Who Traveled in Elephants by Robert A. Heinlein http://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/the-man-who-traveled-in-elephants -- My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/ My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/ My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll
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| From | Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-15 10:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <robertaw-C13EE1.10230215032018@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #488545 |
In article <p8ds6q$fga$1@reader2.panix.com>, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote: > The Man Who Traveled in Elephants by Robert A. Heinlein > > http://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/the-man-who-traveled-in-elephants Exactly what was "the exact moment when the reader realizes the conceit of the story"? When I read this story, I realized that I had missed something when I reached the scene with the cotton candy. So I went back to the beginning and reread it (I had missed the importance of the bus accident). -- "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement." Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹----------------------------------------------------- Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 15:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20180316a@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #488545 |
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> The Man Who Traveled in Elephants by Robert A. Heinlein
>
> http://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/the-man-who-traveled-in-elephants
This is one of the six stories published in _6xH_ (Heinlein). A trippy
cover appears my MMPB. [1] Presumably this is the fifth printing (1971)
iteration of the cover. It leaves me with the impression that this
product was marketing to early 1970s youth, even though the stories date
back to the early 1940s.
Regardless, this is a different facet of RAH. It reminds me of
Bradbury or Serling a good day. On a bad day there's always "The Lottery"
(Jackson). For some reason the Jackson conjures up a naughty carnival
setting in my mind. Even though she specifically writes, "town square."
It's typically easy for me to see short story tells. The bus
accident's "been expecting this" is a tell. Referring to Martha in the
past tense is another tell.
My small town hosts a number of events each summer. The season kicks
off when _Crimson Dawn_ (Forsling) literally comes alive. [2] (The
Forsling story, not the Marvel comic.)
BTW Ahasuerus, _Crimson Dawn_'s missing from isfdb. Good luck with
trying to find any story details. Although the Marvel comic pops up all
over creation on the Inet, it's hard to find out much of anything about
the Forsling.
A couple of weeks after Crimson Dawn my town hosts a county fair.
Lots of kids from surrounding ranches and farms show up to show off
their livestock.
At some point through the decades, a carnival with rides and a
midway was added. Later on a rodeo was tacked on. (The less said about
that "sport" the better.) So a carnival setting still works for me.
YMMV.
Regardless, carnivals change their complexion of the years. A few
seasons ago a tee-shirt booth offered a few War-on-Terror themed shirts.
You certainly didn't see that back in RAH's day.
Note.
1. https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/LfEAAOSw-xVaIGTR/s-l225.jpg
2. http://www.natronacounty-wy.gov/234/Crimson-Dawn
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ad3ebd6-34dd-41b4-8788-6cee6898c9ec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #488600 |
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 11:16:53 AM UTC-4, D B Davis wrote: [snip] > BTW Ahasuerus, _Crimson Dawn_'s missing from isfdb. Good luck with > trying to find any story details. Although the Marvel comic pops up all > over creation on the Inet, it's hard to find out much of anything about > the Forsling. [snip] Added, thanks!
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 16:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20180316b@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #488601 |
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
> On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 11:16:53 AM UTC-4, D B Davis wrote:
> [snip]
>> BTW Ahasuerus, _Crimson Dawn_'s missing from isfdb. Good luck with
>> trying to find any story details. Although the Marvel comic pops up all
>> over creation on the Inet, it's hard to find out much of anything about
>> the Forsling. [snip]
>
> Added, thanks!
Interesting. The book cited in isfdb dates from 1980 [1], but here's the
kicker. Forlsing first told her tales in the 1930s. So, it's apparently
an /oral/ story telling tradition, in its original form.
Anyhow, "Crimson Dawn witch" hits the Inet search engine jackpot.
This excerpt [2] gives a fair description of the event:
On the west flank of the mountain, Jackson canyon, one of the
largest migratory populations of bald eagles in the world take
shelter during certain times of the year. This mountain is also
host to annual summer-solstice gathering at Crimson Dawn Ranch.
This event, based upon children's stories told by a local woman
to her children in the 1930s and 40's, has grown into a local
tradition, with hundreds of families migrating up the mountain
to see actors re-enact tales of witches and warlocks. The area
around the ranch is reported to be haunted by the woman.
Note.
1. http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2341311
2. http://www.thefullwiki.org/Casper_Mountain
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-16 09:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <p8gr6207b7@news2.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #488545 |
On 3/15/2018 6:24 AM, James Nicoll wrote: > The Man Who Traveled in Elephants by Robert A. Heinlein > > http://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/the-man-who-traveled-in-elephants > "Perhaps I liked this story so much because it's what I hope happens to all of us in the end." When I saw the below music video, I was reminded of that story. I think it's pleasant. So, does this show Rejuvenation, or an idealized after death experience? Yeah, more horsepower makes lots of things feel better! What a wonderful welcome home reunion! Avicii - Waiting For Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHLHGNpCSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHLHGNpCSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Love_(Avicii_song) "Music video[edit] The music video was directed by Sebastian Ringler. It begins with an old man (Sten Elfström) being taken care of by his wife (Ingrid Wallin) who then disappears. Distraught, he leaves home on his mobility scooter to search for her. He roams through the countryside on his scooter, growing as a person and making unlikely friends. He ultimately returns to his home city and is welcomed as a celebrity, as well as discovering his wife waiting for him." Lyrics AVICII LYRICS Play "Waiting For Love" on Amazon Music "Waiting For Love" (with Martin Garrix & John Legend) Where there's a will, there's a way, kind of beautiful And every night has its day, so magical And if there's love in this life, there's no obstacle That can't be defeated For every tyrant a tear for the vulnerable In every lost soul the bones of a miracle For every dreamer a dream we're unstoppable With something to believe in Monday left me broken Tuesday I was through with hoping Wednesday my empty arms were open Thursday waiting for love, waiting for love Thank the stars it's Friday I'm burning like a fire gone wild on Saturday Guess I won't be coming to church on Sunday I'll be waiting for love, waiting for love To come around We are one of a kind irreplaceable How did I get so blind and so cynical If there's love in this life we're unstoppable No, we can't be defeated Monday left me broken Tuesday I was through with hoping Wednesday my empty arms were open Thursday waiting for love, waiting for love Thank the stars it's Friday I'm burning like a fire gone wild on Saturday Guess I won't be coming to church on Sunday I'll be waiting for love, waiting for love To come around ------------------------------------------------------------- Here is another by him, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_KJAg8bHI Wake Me Up Avicii Feeling my way through the darkness Guided by a beating heart I can't tell where the journey will end But I know where to start They tell me I'm too young to understand They say I'm caught up in a dream Well life will pass me by if I don't open up my eyes Well that's fine by me So wake me up when it's all over When I'm wiser and I'm older All this time I was finding myself And I didn't know I was lost So wake me up when it's all over When I'm wiser and I'm older All this time I was finding myself And I didn't know I was lost I tried carrying the weight of the world But I only have two hands I hope I get the chance to travel the world But I don't have any plans I wish that I could stay forever this young Not afraid to close my eyes
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