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Male or married author(s) with a female pen name?

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First post	2017-12-27 06:56 +0000
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  Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 06:56 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-27 07:20 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 03:05 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 08:05 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 12:57 -0500
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 16:32 +0000
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 10:17 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 19:27 +0000
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-01 04:39 -0700
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-01 07:54 -0500
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-01 05:11 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-01 18:23 +0000
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-01 13:12 -0800
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-02 21:08 +0000
                      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-02 13:20 -0800
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-01 16:04 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-28 09:08 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-28 17:11 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 14:09 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-27 14:27 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:41 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? banjo@dontspam.silent.com - 2017-12-27 12:36 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 14:10 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 06:08 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:47 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 16:44 +0000
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 09:43 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-27 10:26 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-29 09:37 -0600
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 09:24 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-29 09:34 -0600
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 21:00 -0600
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-30 03:23 -0600
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 12:13 -0600
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 10:27 -0800
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 12:55 -0600
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 11:00 -0700
                      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:08 -0600
                        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 12:18 -0800
                          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:06 -0700
                            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:27 +0000
                              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 15:51 -0700
                                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:08 -0600
                                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 16:41 -0700
                                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-01-04 16:18 -0800
                                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-01-04 16:36 -0800
                                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-01-04 16:52 -0800
                                      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 08:10 -0700
                                        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> - 2018-01-07 13:25 +0000
                                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 00:01 +0000
                                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 16:43 -0700
                                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 02:11 +0000
                                      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 03:58 +0000
                                        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 05:56 +0000
                                          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 06:42 +0000
                                            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 15:55 +0000
                                              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 08:18 -0700
                                              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 19:17 -0600
                              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:59 -0500
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:23 +0000
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:57 -0500
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 10:56 -0700
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 12:16 -0800
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:03 -0700
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:22 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:20 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:59 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 16:35 -0500
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 14:03 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2017-12-28 05:42 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-27 15:15 -0700
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 23:28 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 01:02 +0000
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-28 11:43 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 21:33 +0000
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-28 16:09 -0800
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 14:27 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-29 23:14 +0000
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 20:18 -0500
                  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 20:56 -0500
                    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-01 02:16 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2017-12-27 23:12 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 16:12 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 18:57 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 19:28 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 05:03 +0000
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 06:19 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-28 09:32 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-03 11:48 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-03 11:53 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 07:18 -0700
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-02 09:04 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 07:17 -0700

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#483451

From	Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com>
Date	2017-12-27 07:41 -0800
Message-ID	<7d7c324e-57ac-47b1-bbc0-37fad81594a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483447

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:09:48 AM UTC-5, D B Davis wrote:
[snip-snip]
> FWIW, ISFDB files all of Ilona Andrews under Andrew Gordan.

The ISFDB says that "Ilona Andrews" is a pseudonym used by Ilona Gordon
and Andrew Gordon (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?40941). If you
click "Ilona Gordon" or "Andrew Gordon", you will see each author's
bibliography.

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#483444

From	banjo@dontspam.silent.com
Date	2017-12-27 12:36 +0000
Message-ID	<l9474d58phguaja57236l4kti89erjlluc@4ax.com>
In reply to	#483441

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 06:56:20 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
wrote:

>
>Are there any male or married couples who write SF under a female pen
>name? Something along the lines of a Louise Padgett or a sfnal Tania
>Carver?
>
>Thank you,

Rosalind Erskine, Laura Black, Domini Taylor, and others were all used
by Roger Erskine Longrigg for various genres. A few of Domini Taylor's
titles would qualify as science fiction.

Longrigg's page on Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/705330.Roger_Erskine_Longrigg

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#483448

From	D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Date	2017-12-27 14:10 +0000
Message-ID	<20171227b@crcomp.net>
In reply to	#483444

banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 06:56:20 -0000 (UTC), D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Are there any male or married couples who write SF under a female pen
>>name? Something along the lines of a Louise Padgett or a sfnal Tania
>>Carver?
>>
>>Thank you,
>
> Rosalind Erskine, Laura Black, Domini Taylor, and others were all used
> by Roger Erskine Longrigg for various genres. A few of Domini Taylor's
> titles would qualify as science fiction.
>
> Longrigg's page on Goodreads
> https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/705330.Roger_Erskine_Longrigg

Excellent! Domini Taylor's ISFSB page lists three novels:

    _Teacher's Pet_ (1987)
    _Siege_ (1990)
    _The Eye Behind the Curtain_ (1993)

Thank you,

--
Don

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#483446

From	Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com>
Date	2017-12-27 06:08 -0800
Message-ID	<5e40907f-1a2c-48d0-ae5a-40d6e21835fd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483441

There's the case of Robert L. Forward which I'd like to know more about.  ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of authors and pseudonyms if not sort them into male/female?) lists Susan Lull among his pseudonyms.  Her only work is "I Demand the Stars for My Children!" which appears to be semi-autobiographical fiction, which the editorial matter supports by noting she was born the year of the Wright Brothers' first flight, if not the day of it, as in the story, among other details.  It seems possible to me that Forward was writing semi-biographical fiction about his mother, or even ghosting for her.  It's even debatable if it is science fiction; it does meet one definition: being fiction published in a science fiction magazine.

-- 
-Jack

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#483452

From	Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com>
Date	2017-12-27 07:47 -0800
Message-ID	<88339f79-a4a8-4c64-b60b-d72470b46ffd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483446

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
[snip-snip]
> ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of
authors and pseudonyms

I am not sure I understand the question correctly, but we have
"Author Directory" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?author)

> if not sort them into male/female?)

Our author records do not have a field for the author's gender at this
time.

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#483456

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2017-12-27 16:44 +0000
Message-ID	<p1Mp5E.vtD@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#483452

In article <88339f79-a4a8-4c64-b60b-d72470b46ffd@googlegroups.com>,
Ahasuerus  <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
>[snip-snip]
>> ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of
>authors and pseudonyms
>
>I am not sure I understand the question correctly, but we have
>"Author Directory" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?author)
>
>> if not sort them into male/female?)
>
>Our author records do not have a field for the author's gender at this
>time.

And perhaps you would do well to postpone coding for gender until
things settle down.  There's a line in Lawrence Durrell's
_Justine_, describing Alexandria (the one in Egypt) before World
War II:

"Five races, five languages, a dozen creeds ... but there are
more than five sexes and only demotic Greek seems to distinguish
among them."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#483458

From	Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com>
Date	2017-12-27 09:43 -0800
Message-ID	<ba58cd41-fdd4-47c0-be3e-db14df7cd59a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483456

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 12:00:09 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <88339f79-a4a8-4c64-b60b-d72470b46ffd@googlegroups.com>,
> Ahasuerus  <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
> >[snip-snip]
> >> ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of
> >authors and pseudonyms
> >
> >I am not sure I understand the question correctly, but we have
> >"Author Directory" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?author)
> >
> >> if not sort them into male/female?)
> >
> >Our author records do not have a field for the author's gender at this
> >time.
> 
> And perhaps you would do well to postpone coding for gender until
> things settle down.  There's a line in Lawrence Durrell's
> _Justine_, describing Alexandria (the one in Egypt) before World
> War II:
> 
> "Five races, five languages, a dozen creeds ... but there are
> more than five sexes and only demotic Greek seems to distinguish
> among them."

We have had a number of extensive discussions re: this issue. So far
we have been unable to reach consensus.

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#483461

From	Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>
Date	2017-12-27 10:26 -0800
Message-ID	<a06b86f6-0229-45aa-80fb-3bc6e9d3ca12@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483458

On Wednesday, 27 December 2017 17:43:20 UTC, Ahasuerus  wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 12:00:09 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <88339f79-a4a8-4c64-b60b-d72470b46ffd@googlegroups.com>,
> > Ahasuerus  <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
> > >On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
> > >[snip-snip]
> > >> ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of
> > >authors and pseudonyms
> > >
> > >I am not sure I understand the question correctly, but we have
> > >"Author Directory" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?author)
> > >
> > >> if not sort them into male/female?)
> > >
> > >Our author records do not have a field for the author's gender at this
> > >time.
> > 
> > And perhaps you would do well to postpone coding for gender until
> > things settle down.  There's a line in Lawrence Durrell's
> > _Justine_, describing Alexandria (the one in Egypt) before World
> > War II:
> > 
> > "Five races, five languages, a dozen creeds ... but there are
> > more than five sexes and only demotic Greek seems to distinguish
> > among them."
> 
> We have had a number of extensive discussions re: this issue. So far
> we have been unable to reach consensus.

As long as you have adequate provision of restrooms, 
I'd stop at that.

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#483626

From	David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date	2017-12-29 09:37 -0600
Message-ID	<ipudnU4Zt-6g_NvHnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#483458

On 2017-12-27, Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 12:00:09 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> "Five races, five languages, a dozen creeds ... but there are
>> more than five sexes and only demotic Greek seems to distinguish
>> among them."
>
> We have had a number of extensive discussions re: this issue. So far
> we have been unable to reach consensus.

...This is probably okay, because the people living the issue haven't exactly
reached consensus yet either. (Other than on the "no, there's not only two
genders, and even mother nature demonstrates this regularly in infants" part.)

Dave, biology is hard, said Barbie and/or Ken
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#483457

From	Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com>
Date	2017-12-27 09:24 -0800
Message-ID	<47921909-badb-411b-9532-e168f80a7746@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#483452

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 10:47:49 AM UTC-5, Ahasuerus wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
> [snip-snip]
> > ISFDB (and is there a query function to generate at least a list of
> authors and pseudonyms
> 
> I am not sure I understand the question correctly, but we have
> "Author Directory" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?author)

Interesting.  Let me try one, say "Sm"... maybe "Ms" instead... something in between; "Pa" should have Lewis Padgett appear on the first page.  For purposes of this thread it would be useful not only to know that is a pseudonym, but for whom it is a pseudonym.  Say build a list for every name with Pseudonym in the "Pseudonym?" column and the "Alternate Name Used By" field of its record, and the "Legal Name" field in the record of *those* names, because "C.L. Moore" isn't indicative, or, say, "Vin Packer" being a pseudonym for M.E. Kerr, whose legal name is Meaker, Marijane Agnes.

I suppose before we go further, I should say that as pop culture is to Dorothy, databases are to me.  You can explain, and I will thank you for your effort, but weeks/months/years from now I will make a comment by which you will know your explanation penetrated no further into my skull than my retinas.

-- 
-Jack

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#483625

From	David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date	2017-12-29 09:34 -0600
Message-ID	<ipudnU8Zt-4f_dvHnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#483452

On 2017-12-27, Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
>> if not sort them into male/female?)
>
> Our author records do not have a field for the author's gender at this time.

Which may shortly prove to have been a boon, because of the current Y2Gender
issue.

Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#483714

From	Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date	2017-12-29 21:00 -0600
Message-ID	<p26vgf$lai$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#483625

On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
...
> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male

Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.

Lynn

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#483731

From	David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date	2017-12-30 03:23 -0600
Message-ID	<yKSdne8TYMW_xtrHnZ2dnUU7-XednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#483714

On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
> ...
>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
>
> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.

Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're misidentified?

Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#484100

From	Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date	2018-01-04 12:13 -0600
Message-ID	<p2lqsn$r28$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#483731

On 12/30/2017 3:23 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>> ...
>>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
>>
>> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.
> 
> Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're misidentified?
> 
> Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
Yup.  57 years of being misidentified as female gets to one after a 
while.  And I know two other guys named Lynn.  One goes by his middle 
name like I do.

I must admit, getting mail or email to Ms. Lynn McGuire is an easy spam 
detector.

Lynn

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#484102

From	Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
Date	2018-01-04 10:27 -0800
Message-ID	<21c00bb2-dfad-411c-addc-6aebca726b2d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#484100

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 12/30/2017 3:23 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
> > On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
> >>
> >> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.
> > 
> > Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're misidentified?
> > 
> > Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
> Yup.  57 years of being misidentified as female gets to one after a 
> while.  And I know two other guys named Lynn.  One goes by his middle 
> name like I do.
> 
> I must admit, getting mail or email to Ms. Lynn McGuire is an easy spam 
> detector.


It's the "Lynn Swann" v "Lynn Anderson" problem,as I once
called it, in the 1970s.  I had a huge crush on a member of 
my high school class, named Lynn.  She was very cute and
quite smart.  Has a Phd in art history.

I kinda liked Lynn Anderson, too, come to think of it. 

Kevin R

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#484107

From	Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date	2018-01-04 12:55 -0600
Message-ID	<p2ltbk$a3l$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#484102

On 1/4/2018 12:27 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 12/30/2017 3:23 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>> On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
>>>>
>>>> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.
>>>
>>> Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're misidentified?
>>>
>>> Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
>> Yup.  57 years of being misidentified as female gets to one after a
>> while.  And I know two other guys named Lynn.  One goes by his middle
>> name like I do.
>>
>> I must admit, getting mail or email to Ms. Lynn McGuire is an easy spam
>> detector.
> 
> 
> It's the "Lynn Swann" v "Lynn Anderson" problem,as I once
> called it, in the 1970s.  I had a huge crush on a member of
> my high school class, named Lynn.  She was very cute and
> quite smart.  Has a Phd in art history.
> 
> I kinda liked Lynn Anderson, too, come to think of it.
> 
> Kevin R

My campaign to get the ladies to change their names to "Lyn" has been a 
total failure.

Lynn

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#484110

From	Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-01-04 11:00 -0700
Message-ID	<XnsA8606FF9311A0taustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to	#484107

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:p2ltbk$a3l$3@dont-email.me: 

> On 1/4/2018 12:27 PM, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire
>> wrote: 
>>> On 12/30/2017 3:23 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>> On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
>>>>>
>>>>> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.
>>>>
>>>> Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're
>>>> misidentified? 
>>>>
>>>> Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
>>> Yup.  57 years of being misidentified as female gets to one
>>> after a while.  And I know two other guys named Lynn.  One
>>> goes by his middle name like I do.
>>>
>>> I must admit, getting mail or email to Ms. Lynn McGuire is an
>>> easy spam detector.
>> 
>> 
>> It's the "Lynn Swann" v "Lynn Anderson" problem,as I once
>> called it, in the 1970s.  I had a huge crush on a member of
>> my high school class, named Lynn.  She was very cute and
>> quite smart.  Has a Phd in art history.
>> 
>> I kinda liked Lynn Anderson, too, come to think of it.
>> 
>> Kevin R
> 
> My campaign to get the ladies to change their names to "Lyn" has
> been a total failure.
> 
Perhaps you should advocate for "Lynda" instead. It was good enough 
for Wonder Woman, after all.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#484112

From	Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date	2018-01-04 13:08 -0600
Message-ID	<p2lu2t$ivm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#484110

On 1/4/2018 12:00 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:p2ltbk$a3l$3@dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 1/4/2018 12:27 PM, Kevrob wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 12/30/2017 3:23 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-12-30, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/29/2017 9:34 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Dave, self-identifying as cis-male
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did we ask ?  Trust me, I don't care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not about me, maybe. You do seem to care when you're
>>>>> misidentified?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, I remember at least a few instances thereof
>>>> Yup.  57 years of being misidentified as female gets to one
>>>> after a while.  And I know two other guys named Lynn.  One
>>>> goes by his middle name like I do.
>>>>
>>>> I must admit, getting mail or email to Ms. Lynn McGuire is an
>>>> easy spam detector.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the "Lynn Swann" v "Lynn Anderson" problem,as I once
>>> called it, in the 1970s.  I had a huge crush on a member of
>>> my high school class, named Lynn.  She was very cute and
>>> quite smart.  Has a Phd in art history.
>>>
>>> I kinda liked Lynn Anderson, too, come to think of it.
>>>
>>> Kevin R
>>
>> My campaign to get the ladies to change their names to "Lyn" has
>> been a total failure.
>>
> Perhaps you should advocate for "Lynda" instead. It was good enough
> for Wonder Woman, after all.

At 57 and the survivor of two heart incidents, I am just happy to be 
breathing from moment to moment.

Lynn

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#484120

From	Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
Date	2018-01-04 12:18 -0800
Message-ID	<41f9d8bb-1e57-4dae-9de2-814950ad39c2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#484112

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 2:08:15 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 1/4/2018 12:00 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:

> > Perhaps you should advocate for "Lynda" instead. It was good enough
> > for Wonder Woman, after all.
> 
> At 57 and the survivor of two heart incidents, I am just happy to be 
> breathing from moment to moment.

Start watching old clips of Lynda Carter and you might have
a third event!  Be careful!

She still looks good.

Kevin R
(Has a few years on Lynn)

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#484123

From	Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-01-04 13:06 -0700
Message-ID	<XnsA860854AEDB5Etaustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to	#484120

Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:41f9d8bb-1e57-4dae-9de2-814950ad39c2@googlegroups.com: 

> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 2:08:15 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire
> wrote: 
>> On 1/4/2018 12:00 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> 
>> > Perhaps you should advocate for "Lynda" instead. It was good
>> > enough for Wonder Woman, after all.
>> 
>> At 57 and the survivor of two heart incidents, I am just happy
>> to be breathing from moment to moment.
> 
> Start watching old clips of Lynda Carter and you might have
> a third event!  Be careful!

Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and Diana Rigg in form fitting leather 
as Emma Peel were enough to get a boy through puberty.
> 
> She still looks good.

Some people age unfarily well.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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