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"After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’"

Started byLynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
First post2017-11-27 15:58 -0600
Last post2017-11-30 21:30 -0600
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  "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-27 15:58 -0600
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2017-11-28 16:32 +1300
      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-11-27 23:16 -0500
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming �Apocalypse�" Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2017-11-28 19:32 +1300
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-11-27 23:59 -0700
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-11-28 05:35 +0000
      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 05:37 -0800
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 05:41 -0800
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-01 15:56 +0000
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-03-21 21:08 -0700
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 16:17 +0000
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-01 16:25 +0000
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-01 16:54 +0000
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 09:55 -0800
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 13:40 -0800
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 14:29 -0700
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2017-12-02 14:05 +1100
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:51 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-04 14:30 +0000
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 13:18 -0800
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-02 14:31 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-02 15:28 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-03 00:10 +0000
                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-02 17:51 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-02 16:14 -0800
                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:44 -0500
                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:55 -0500
                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:54 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:52 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 13:13 -0800
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:51 -0700
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 15:28 -0800
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-02 00:23 -0600
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 14:07 -0800
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:59 -0800
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 01:08 -0800
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 07:29 -0500
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-03 08:06 -0800
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-03 15:18 -0700
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 13:41 -0800
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-03 15:20 -0700
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 15:29 -0800
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-03 06:40 -0800
              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 12:27 -0700
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-05 06:03 -0600
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 08:34 -0700
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-05 16:47 +0000
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 10:41 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:42 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:09 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:22 -0800
                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:45 -0700
                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 14:54 -0500
                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 13:55 -0700
                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 17:59 -0500
                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 15:46 -0700
                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-05 17:58 -0600
                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 16:36 -0700
                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 00:13 -0500
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 02:20 -0500
                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 02:42 -0500
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 23:53 -0800
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 04:54 -0500
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 06:06 -0800
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 07:26 -0800
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-06 16:00 +0000
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-06 09:31 -0800
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 09:55 -0700
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 03:37 -0600
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 05:47 -0500
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 06:24 -0800
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 10:35 -0500
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:24 -0600
                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:26 -0700
                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:41 -0600
                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:53 -0700
                                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 17:27 -0600
                                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-07 16:09 -0800
                                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:55 -0700
                                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-07 19:23 -0800
                                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 21:04 -0700
                                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 02:48 -0600
                                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:07 -0600
                                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-08 23:25 +0000
                                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 19:19 -0500
                                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-08 17:25 +0000
                                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 09:38 -0700
                                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:15 -0600
                                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 14:25 -0700
                                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-08 15:27 -0800
                                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 15:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 18:46 -0600
                                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-08 15:45 -0800
                                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 09:25 -0800
                                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 09:46 -0700
                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-07 15:38 -0800
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:38 -0700
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-06 13:54 -0800
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 16:58 -0500
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:40 -0700
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:36 -0700
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 14:31 -0800
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:42 -0700
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 22:13 -0800
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 09:01 -0700
                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:23 -0800
                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 11:27 -0700
                                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:24 -0800
                                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 11:28 -0700
                                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:32 -0800
                                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 12:47 -0700
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:34 -0700
                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 00:10 -0500
                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2017-12-05 21:23 -0800
                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 22:00 -0800
                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 21:33 -0500
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 22:15 -0800
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 08:59 -0700
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-07 10:06 -0800
                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 13:29 -0500
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-07 10:47 -0800
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 10:51 -0700
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 14:10 -0500
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 20:14 -0500
                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 10:50 -0700
                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 22:48 -0700
                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 02:44 -0500
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 03:40 -0600
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 09:02 -0700
                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 13:33 -0500
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:47 -0500
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Siberian Sheep Shipper <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:14 -0700
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-07 14:15 -0800
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 02:44 -0600
                                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Napenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 08:36 -0700
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-08 10:41 -0800
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-08 22:16 +0200
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 12:31 -0700
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 16:47 -0500
                                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-08 23:57 +0000
                                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:12 -0700
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Siberian Sheep Shipper <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:13 -0700
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 17:57 -0500
                                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-11 05:19 -0700
                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-11 07:59 -0800
                                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 21:20 -0500
                                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 21:17 -0600
                                          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 22:52 -0500
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-12 08:45 -0700
                                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2017-12-31 22:13 +0000
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-01 18:25 +0000
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 06:48 -0700
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 13:20 -0800
                                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2018-01-03 02:40 +0000
                                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 05:59 -0800
                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 11:05 -0800
                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 11:16 -0700
                            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-05 23:28 -0800
                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 02:46 -0500
                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 03:09 -0500
                                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-06 01:43 -0800
                                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:35 -0700
                              Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:34 -0700
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:44 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:40 -0700
                    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 13:01 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2017-12-06 13:24 -0800
                      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-06 23:56 +0000
                        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-06 16:40 -0800
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:42 -0800
                Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:25 -0800
                  Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:46 -0700
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2017-11-28 05:54 -0800
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2017-11-28 17:19 +0200
      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-29 15:23 -0600
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-11-29 15:07 -0700
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-29 17:44 -0600
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-11-30 16:37 -0800
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 18:39 -0700
            Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 21:27 -0600
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 12:57 -0800
      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 17:58 -0600
        Re: Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-01 16:23 +0000
          Re: Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 09:52 -0800
    Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-11-30 16:36 -0800
      Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 20:44 -0500
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 18:45 -0700
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 12:53 -0600
        Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-11-30 18:47 -0800
          Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-11-30 23:18 -0500
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#481863 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-07 21:04 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA844D6635E830taustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#481855
hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com: 

> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
> suspicions as to their motives 

If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.

> and doubts about their approaches
> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
> to the authors. 

That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer 
reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these 
days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world 
renowned expert in any field.
> 
> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
> consistently huge claims which don't hold up. 
> 
Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're 
"news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about* 
sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which 
means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more 
than Lynn's belief means they're right.

News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.

It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing 
to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one 
side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes 
it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#481867 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2017-12-08 02:48 -0600
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<YdqdnUtzyb9QzLfHnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#481863
On 2017-12-08, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing 
> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one 
> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes 
> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.

And yet he gets sort of panicky thinking about what the laws of physics and
the gas laws say about X amount of hydrogen stuffed into Y volume of
canister...

Dave, some simulations are clearly Elite and Superior
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#481926 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromLynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 16:07 -0600
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<p0f2fk$1q9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#481867
On 12/8/2017 2:48 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2017-12-08, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
>> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
>> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
>> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
>> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
> 
> And yet he gets sort of panicky thinking about what the laws of physics and
> the gas laws say about X amount of hydrogen stuffed into Y volume of
> canister...
> 
> Dave, some simulations are clearly Elite and Superior

I don't like grenades.

Lynn

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#481938 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2017-12-08 23:25 +0000
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<pbFWB.58477$nX4.21150@fx06.iad>
In reply to#481926
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 12/8/2017 2:48 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>> On 2017-12-08, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
>>> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
>>> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
>>> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
>>> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>> 
>> And yet he gets sort of panicky thinking about what the laws of physics and
>> the gas laws say about X amount of hydrogen stuffed into Y volume of
>> canister...
>> 
>> Dave, some simulations are clearly Elite and Superior
>
>I don't like grenades.

You need to open them in water, then eat the seeds.

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#481953 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromMichael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2017-12-08 19:19 -0500
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<y_FWB.15528$tM1.13502@fx34.iad>
In reply to#481926
Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 12/8/2017 2:48 AM, David DeLaney wrote:
>> On 2017-12-08, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
>>> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
>>> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
>>> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
>>> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>>
>> And yet he gets sort of panicky thinking about what the laws of
>> physics and
>> the gas laws say about X amount of hydrogen stuffed into Y volume of
>> canister...
>>
>> Dave, some simulations are clearly Elite and Superior
>
> I don't like grenades.


   Especially the ones that go off prematurely.

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#481887 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromD B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Date2017-12-08 17:25 +0000
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<20171208a@crcomp.net>
In reply to#481863
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>
>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>> suspicions as to their motives
>
> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>
>> and doubts about their approaches
>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
>> to the authors.
>
> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer
> reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these
> days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world
> renowned expert in any field.
>>
>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
>> consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>
> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which
> means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more
> than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>
> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>
> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>

    In regards to news as a business, someone once told me that "news is
written on the backside of advertisements." A department store magnate
named John Wanamaker once said, "Half the money I spend on advertising
is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." Ernest Hemingway
said, "Newspaper work will not harm a young writer and could help him if
he gets out of it in time."
    News is a force of nature. Those who would be king must always use
it to their advantage. Fleet Street interests ranked just as high as
Threadneedle Street interests in empire builder David Rhodes inner
circle.
    There's really nothing new about the old guard bad mouthing Trump's
tweets. Technology put the old guard's nose out of joint because a
President, any President, no longer needs the old guard as much.
    The same thing happened after radio usurped wire reports. Roosevelt
mastered radio and used it to impress the masses. The noses of old guard
wire reporters were put out of joint after radio leapfrogged over them
in the Presidential entourage.

Thank you,

--
Don

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#481888 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 09:38 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA845621D6FAB0taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#481887
D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote in news:20171208a@crcomp.net:

> 
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>>> suspicions as to their motives
>>
>> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>>
>>> and doubts about their approaches
>>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he
>>> has to the authors.
>>
>> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of
>> "peer reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out
>> there these days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can
>> be a world renowned expert in any field.
>>>
>>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment
>>> they consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>>
>> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
>> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
>> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of
>> which means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course,
>> any more than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>>
>> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>>
>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the
>> "nothing to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b)
>> post- apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's
>> like one side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the
>> other believes it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>>
> 
>     In regards to news as a business, someone once told me that
>     "news is 
> written on the backside of advertisements."

Indeed. News is the business of selling eyeballs. The reader isn't 
the customer, the advertiser is. And advertisers care a great deal 
about demographics. They don't want to spend money advertising to 
people who aren't going to do busienss with them no matter what. 
So, in order to attract advertisers, news organizations have to 
develop a specific market, and cater to advertisers who want 
similar demograhpics. Hence, we have Faux news catering to the 
wingnut right, and CNN catering to the moonbat left, both run by 
people who really don't give a damn about the polics of either 
viewers or advertisers, only about selling the former to the 
latter.

And we live in a time when the general public is uneducated, 
disgaged, and frankly, *stupid*. People won't read news that tells 
them things they don't want to hear. Especially if it's true. So 
what appears in the news is completely disconnected from reality. 
It relfectso only the demographics their advertisers wish to do 
busienss with. It might be true, or it might be complete fiction.

Occasionally, though, you get a link to an actual source, and 
sometimes, a little bit of actual fact leaks through despite the 
best efforts of the propagandists.

What's that all mean for AGW alarmists and deniers? Nohthing. 
They're all propagandists, too, on both sides.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#481927 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromLynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 16:15 -0600
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<p0f2ta$6vr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#481863
On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
> 
>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>> suspicions as to their motives
> 
> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
> 
>> and doubts about their approaches
>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
>> to the authors.
> 
> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer
> reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these
> days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world
> renowned expert in any field.
>>
>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
>> consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>
> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which
> means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more
> than Lynn's belief means they're right.
> 
> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
> 
> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.

Cool, I'm sad !  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty guy so 
that could qualify as sad.

I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too simple.  I 
make my living writing and selling modelling software to engineers, the 
toughest and most skeptical market on the planet.  Any well trained 
process engineer insists on building a full energy and material balance 
around the problem at hand. *None* of the AGW models have built a full 
energy and material balance around the Earth.  It is just too complex of 
a problem for modern science and compute technology.

Lynn

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#481930 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 14:25 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA84592AAA66Btaustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#481927
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:p0f2ta$6vr$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>> 
>>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>>> suspicions as to their motives
>> 
>> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>> 
>>> and doubts about their approaches
>>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he
>>> has to the authors.
>> 
>> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of
>> "peer reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out
>> there these days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can
>> be a world renowned expert in any field.
>>>
>>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment
>>> they consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>>
>> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
>> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
>> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of
>> which means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course,
>> any more than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>> 
>> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>> 
>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the
>> "nothing to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b)
>> post- apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's
>> like one side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the
>> other believes it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
> 
> Cool, I'm sad !

Always heppy to help. It's not the sort of thing a man should go 
through life not knowing about himself.

>  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty
> guy so that could qualify as sad.

Half full, half empty, it's still the wrong half.
> 
> I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too
> simple.

I don't believe the alarmists because they act like either con 
artists with grant applications, or True Believers in a cult.

I equally don't believe the deniers for exactly the same reason.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#481940 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromDimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date2017-12-08 15:27 -0800
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<p0f753$472$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#481927
On 12/8/2017 2:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>>> suspicions as to their motives
>>
>> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>>
>>> and doubts about their approaches
>>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
>>> to the authors.
>>
>> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer
>> reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these
>> days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world
>> renowned expert in any field.
>>>
>>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
>>> consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>>
>> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
>> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
>> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which
>> means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more
>> than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>>
>> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>>
>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
>> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
>> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
>> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
>> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
> 
> Cool, I'm sad !  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty guy so 
> that could qualify as sad.
> 
> I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too simple.  I 
> make my living writing and selling modelling software to engineers, the 
> toughest and most skeptical market on the planet.  Any well trained 
> process engineer insists on building a full energy and material balance 
> around the problem at hand. *None* of the AGW models have built a full 
> energy and material balance around the Earth.  It is just too complex of 
> a problem for modern science and compute technology.
> 
And what do those engineers do when they _can't_ build a full energy and 
material balance but still have to make a prediction?


-- 
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation 
instinct are running screaming.

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#481944 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 15:41 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA8459F938EFD1taustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#481940
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
news:p0f753$472$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 12/8/2017 2:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>>> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>>>> suspicions as to their motives
>>>
>>> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>>>
>>>> and doubts about their approaches
>>>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he
>>>> has to the authors.
>>>
>>> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of
>>> "peer reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out
>>> there these days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can
>>> be a world renowned expert in any field.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment
>>>> they consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>>>
>>> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
>>> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
>>> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of
>>> which means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course,
>>> any more than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>>>
>>> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>>>
>>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the
>>> "nothing to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b)
>>> post- apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's
>>> like one side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the
>>> other believes it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>> 
>> Cool, I'm sad !  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty
>> guy so that could qualify as sad.
>> 
>> I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too
>> simple.  I make my living writing and selling modelling
>> software to engineers, the toughest and most skeptical market
>> on the planet.  Any well trained process engineer insists on
>> building a full energy and material balance around the problem
>> at hand. *None* of the AGW models have built a full energy and
>> material balance around the Earth.  It is just too complex of 
>> a problem for modern science and compute technology.
>> 
> And what do those engineers do when they _can't_ build a full
> energy and material balance but still have to make a prediction?
> 
I would imagine they generally predict catastrophic faiulre. Much 
like AGW alarmists do. The difference being, when and engineer is 
wrong, people tend to die. When AGW alamrists are wrong, they tend 
to get more taxpayer funded grant money.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#481959 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromLynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-08 18:46 -0600
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<p0fboi$rnr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#481940
On 12/8/2017 5:27 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 12/8/2017 2:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>>> news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
>>>> suspicions as to their motives
>>>
>>> If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
>>>
>>>> and doubts about their approaches
>>>> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
>>>> to the authors.
>>>
>>> That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer
>>> reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these
>>> days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world
>>> renowned expert in any field.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
>>>> consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
>>>>
>>> Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
>>> "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
>>> sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which
>>> means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more
>>> than Lynn's belief means they're right.
>>>
>>> News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
>>>
>>> It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
>>> to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
>>> apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
>>> side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
>>> it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
>>
>> Cool, I'm sad !  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty guy so 
>> that could qualify as sad.
>>
>> I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too simple.  I 
>> make my living writing and selling modelling software to engineers, 
>> the toughest and most skeptical market on the planet.  Any well 
>> trained process engineer insists on building a full energy and 
>> material balance around the problem at hand. *None* of the AGW models 
>> have built a full energy and material balance around the Earth.  It is 
>> just too complex of a problem for modern science and compute technology.
>>
> And what do those engineers do when they _can't_ build a full energy and 
> material balance but still have to make a prediction?

SWAG - scientific wild assed guess.

Lynn

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#481945 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromRobert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>
Date2017-12-08 15:45 -0800
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<eb5fc065-16b2-4c16-8834-b23135e98cde@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#481927
On Friday, 8 December 2017 22:15:09 UTC, Lynn McGuire  wrote:
> On 12/7/2017 10:04 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> > hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
> > news:66b7d34b-64fe-4ce9-a79c-da378989de03@googlegroups.com:
> > 
> >> None of which proves that their paper is wrong but does raise
> >> suspicions as to their motives
> > 
> > If they're doing science, their motives are irrelevant.
> > 
> >> and doubts about their approaches
> >> I'd like to know who reviewed their article and what ties he has
> >> to the authors.
> > 
> > That is always the question, isn't it? There are thousand of "peer
> > reviewed" journals (complete with the quote marks) out there these
> > days, and for a few thousand bucks, *anybody* can be a world
> > renowned expert in any field.
> >>
> >> Lynn's "sources" aren't working on a scientific assessment they
> >> consistently huge claims which don't hold up.
> >>
> > Lynn's sources aren't even pretending to be sources. They're
> > "news" coverage (complete with quote marks) talking *about*
> > sources, which are likely also not actual sources. None of which
> > means that the ultimate sources are *wrong*, of course, any more
> > than Lynn's belief means they're right.
> > 
> > News is a business, and it's not the business of selling news.
> > 
> > It is curious, though, how enchanted Lynn is with a) the "nothing
> > to see here, everything's fine" psuedoscience and b) post-
> > apocalypic revenge fantasy, both at the same time. It's like one
> > side of his face *wants* the world to end, but the other believes
> > it'll never happen. Must be a very sad life.
> 
> Cool, I'm sad !  Of course, the wife says that I am half empty guy so 
> that could qualify as sad.
> 
> I don't believe the AGW crowd because their models are too simple.  I 
> make my living writing and selling modelling software to engineers, the 
> toughest and most skeptical market on the planet.  Any well trained 
> process engineer insists on building a full energy and material balance 
> around the problem at hand. *None* of the AGW models have built a full 
> energy and material balance around the Earth.  It is just too complex of 
> a problem for modern science and compute technology.

Lewis Carroll proposed using the actual world as the model to study.
In this case, a planet with swarming apes, rising seas, melting ice.

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#482392 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromTom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-11 09:25 -0800
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<5a979847-0a99-420f-9f4e-62e4097eac59@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#481843
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:55:05 PM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
> news:712867cf-22b5-439f-9e59-7af8feb348ad@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:27:15 AM UTC+11, Lynn McGuire
> > wrote: 
> >> On 12/7/2017 3:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> > news:p0cg3m$3se$1@dont-email.me:
> >> > 
> >> >> On 12/7/2017 3:26 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >> >>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> >>> news:p0cf35$qs1$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 12/7/2017 8:24 AM, Peter Trei wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-5,
> >> >>>>> Michael A Terrell wrote:
> >> >>>>>> David DeLaney wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> On 2017-12-06, Michael A Terrell
> >> >>>>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>        It was one 500mg tablet a day. Over the last 15
> >> >>>>>>>>        years it has
> >> >>>>>>>> progressed to two 1000mg tablets a day, two 10mg
> >> >>>>>>>> tablets of Glipizide and two 40 unit shots of Lantus
> >> >>>>>>>> Insulin as my ability to spend time on my feet has
> >> >>>>>>>> decreased. I used to spend up to 16 hours a day on my
> >> >>>>>>>> feet. Now it's painful to spend more than 15 minutes
> >> >>>>>>>> at a time, before I have to sit for a couple hours.
> >> >>>>>>>> Going to the grocery can put me in bed for a day.
> >> >>>>>>>> After a quick trip, it's all I an do to bring 
> >> >>>>>>>> in the perishable food, and put it away. Sometimes it
> >> >>>>>>>> takes several more days to carry in the other items.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Are they, and your legs, swollen? Edema? If so, look
> >> >>>>>>> into a good diuretic posthaste. One called Farxiga did
> >> >>>>>>> wonders for me; I lost 50 pounds after being put on it,
> >> >>>>>>> accidentally. 
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Dave, and no my feet are not balloons with toes
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>        I have been on 75mg of HCTZ for over a decade,
> >> >>>>>>        and .4mg of
> >> >>>>>> Tamsulosin for over five years.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It says something about demographics of this froup that
> >> >>>>> we can have an in-depth discussion of Diabetes Type II
> >> >>>>> medications, and its not out of place. :-( We're getting
> >> >>>>> old. 
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> pt
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It is the nature of the usenet.  The millennials hang out
> >> >>>> in "hip" places.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's also the nature of this particular group. All
> >> >>> discussions will eventually be on topic, even if they
> >> >>> wander through dozens of topics along the way.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, most items discussed here are of a "speculative"
> >> >> nature. 
> >> >>
> >> > Some of the people are, too.
> >> > 
> >> > Have you seen this yet:
> >> > 
> >> > https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41748-017-0020-z
> >> > 
> >> > (The story about it that should appeal to you is here:
> >> > 
> >> > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/06/tidalgate-
> >> > climate-alarmists-caught-faking-sea-level-rise
> >> > 
> >> > https://tinyurl.com/y8qxv2hj
> >> > 
> >> > As one might expect from Breitbart, they exaggerate it quite
> >> > a bit, but the basic gist of it is correct: the sea level
> >> > rise from one particular set of data comes entirely from
> >> > "corrections" of the data.)
> >> 
> >> Yes.  That is nothing compared to their modifications of the
> >> actual temperature records.
> >> 
> >> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/05/delingpole-cl
> >> imate-mafia-caught-tampering-with-the-evidence-again/ and
> >> 
> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/
> >> 11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-scien
> >> ce-scandal-ever.html and
> >> 
> >> https://realclimatescience.com/2017/10/plummeting-october-20-tem
> >> peratures-in-the-us/ and
> >> 
> >> https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/nasa-massively-ta
> >> mpering-with-the-us-temperature-record/ 
> >> 
> >> And many others.
> > 
> > anybody quoting Breitbart, realclimatescience, the telegraph and
> > Steven Goddard for sources on climate modelling, measurement etc
> > is really drinking from the conspiracy theory side of the cup. 
> > 
> I note that you do not comment on my link, to the claim of 
> jiggering of sea level data (which links to the actual paper, which 
> appears to be peer reviewed, though I've no doubt you'll attack the 
> journal, instead).
> 
> -- 
> Terry Austin
> 
> Vacation photos from Iceland: 
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
> 
> "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
>     -- David Bilek
> 
> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

If Edgar Allan Poe had written about Terry Austin

Hear the whining of the troll, 
Crippled troll,
Bellowing his hatred of the people that are whole.
How he rages, rages, rages
In a mind that’s dark as night.
And the only bit of bright to
Pierce the cobwebs of that foul mind
Is his monitor’s own light.
Hear him whine, whine, whine
His pathetic little lines:
“You must answer,” “you’re my bitch now;” his illusion of control 
From the troll, troll, troll, troll, 
Troll, so droll
From the screaming-for-attention, bitter troll.

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#482405 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-11 09:46 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA8486374B3103taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#482392
The good news is, when Little (Penis) Tommie Crapman is devoting 
his time to shitting writing here, he's not inflicting it on an 
unsuspecting world through Amazon.

Mine is a life os service, to my adoring public.

Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5a979847-0a99-420f-9f4e-62e4097eac59@googlegroups.com: 

> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:55:05 PM UTC-5, Gutless
> Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: 
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:712867cf-22b5-439f-9e59-7af8feb348ad@googlegroups.com: 
>> 
>> > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:27:15 AM UTC+11, Lynn
>> > McGuire wrote: 
>> >> On 12/7/2017 3:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> >> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> > news:p0cg3m$3se$1@dont-email.me:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> On 12/7/2017 3:26 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> >> >> wrote: 
>> >> >>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> news:p0cf35$qs1$2@dont-email.me:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> On 12/7/2017 8:24 AM, Peter Trei wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-5,
>> >> >>>>> Michael A Terrell wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> David DeLaney wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> On 2017-12-06, Michael A Terrell
>> >> >>>>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>        It was one 500mg tablet a day. Over the last
>> >> >>>>>>>>        15 years it has
>> >> >>>>>>>> progressed to two 1000mg tablets a day, two 10mg
>> >> >>>>>>>> tablets of Glipizide and two 40 unit shots of
>> >> >>>>>>>> Lantus Insulin as my ability to spend time on my
>> >> >>>>>>>> feet has decreased. I used to spend up to 16 hours
>> >> >>>>>>>> a day on my feet. Now it's painful to spend more
>> >> >>>>>>>> than 15 minutes at a time, before I have to sit for
>> >> >>>>>>>> a couple hours. Going to the grocery can put me in
>> >> >>>>>>>> bed for a day. After a quick trip, it's all I an do
>> >> >>>>>>>> to bring in the perishable food, and put it away.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Sometimes it takes several more days to carry in
>> >> >>>>>>>> the other items. 
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Are they, and your legs, swollen? Edema? If so, look
>> >> >>>>>>> into a good diuretic posthaste. One called Farxiga
>> >> >>>>>>> did wonders for me; I lost 50 pounds after being put
>> >> >>>>>>> on it, accidentally. 
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Dave, and no my feet are not balloons with toes
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>        I have been on 75mg of HCTZ for over a decade,
>> >> >>>>>>        and .4mg of
>> >> >>>>>> Tamsulosin for over five years.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> It says something about demographics of this froup
>> >> >>>>> that we can have an in-depth discussion of Diabetes
>> >> >>>>> Type II medications, and its not out of place. :-(
>> >> >>>>> We're getting old. 
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> pt
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> It is the nature of the usenet.  The millennials hang
>> >> >>>> out in "hip" places.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It's also the nature of this particular group. All
>> >> >>> discussions will eventually be on topic, even if they
>> >> >>> wander through dozens of topics along the way.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, most items discussed here are of a "speculative"
>> >> >> nature. 
>> >> >>
>> >> > Some of the people are, too.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Have you seen this yet:
>> >> > 
>> >> > https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41748-017-0020-z
>> >> > 
>> >> > (The story about it that should appeal to you is here:
>> >> > 
>> >> > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/06/tidalgat
>> >> > e- climate-alarmists-caught-faking-sea-level-rise
>> >> > 
>> >> > https://tinyurl.com/y8qxv2hj
>> >> > 
>> >> > As one might expect from Breitbart, they exaggerate it
>> >> > quite a bit, but the basic gist of it is correct: the sea
>> >> > level rise from one particular set of data comes entirely
>> >> > from "corrections" of the data.)
>> >> 
>> >> Yes.  That is nothing compared to their modifications of the
>> >> actual temperature records.
>> >> 
>> >> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/05/delingpole
>> >> -cl imate-mafia-caught-tampering-with-the-evidence-again/
>> >> and 
>> >> 
>> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarmi
>> >> ng/ 
>> >> 11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-sc
>> >> ien ce-scandal-ever.html and
>> >> 
>> >> https://realclimatescience.com/2017/10/plummeting-october-20-
>> >> tem peratures-in-the-us/ and
>> >> 
>> >> https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/nasa-massively
>> >> -ta mpering-with-the-us-temperature-record/ 
>> >> 
>> >> And many others.
>> > 
>> > anybody quoting Breitbart, realclimatescience, the telegraph
>> > and Steven Goddard for sources on climate modelling,
>> > measurement etc is really drinking from the conspiracy theory
>> > side of the cup. 
>> > 
>> I note that you do not comment on my link, to the claim of 
>> jiggering of sea level data (which links to the actual paper,
>> which appears to be peer reviewed, though I've no doubt you'll
>> attack the journal, instead).
>> 
>> -- 
>> Terry Austin
>> 
>> Vacation photos from Iceland: 
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
>> 
>> "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
>>     -- David Bilek
>> 
>> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
> 
> If Edgar Allan Poe had written about Terry Austin
> 
> Hear the whining of the troll, 
> Crippled troll,
> Bellowing his hatred of the people that are whole.
> How he rages, rages, rages
> In a mind that’s dark as night.
> And the only bit of bright to
> Pierce the cobwebs of that foul mind
> Is his monitor’s own light.
> Hear him whine, whine, whine
> His pathetic little lines:
> “You must answer,” “you’re my bitch now;” his illusion
> of control From the troll, troll, troll, troll, 
> Troll, so droll
> From the screaming-for-attention, bitter troll.
> 



-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#481839 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromDimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date2017-12-07 15:38 -0800
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<p0cjdq$o6j$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#481810
On 12/7/2017 2:24 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 12/7/2017 8:24 AM, Peter Trei wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-5, Michael A Terrell 
>> wrote:
>>> David DeLaney wrote:
>>>> On 2017-12-06, Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>      It was one 500mg tablet a day. Over the last 15 years it has
>>>>> progressed to two 1000mg tablets a day, two 10mg tablets of Glipizide
>>>>> and two 40 unit shots of Lantus Insulin as my ability to spend time on
>>>>> my feet has decreased. I used to spend up to 16 hours a day on my 
>>>>> feet.
>>>>> Now it's painful to spend more than 15 minutes at a time, before I 
>>>>> have
>>>>> to sit for a couple hours. Going to the grocery can put me in bed 
>>>>> for a
>>>>> day. After a quick trip, it's all I an do to bring in the perishable
>>>>> food, and put it away. Sometimes it takes several more days to 
>>>>> carry in
>>>>> the other items.
>>>>
>>>> Are they, and your legs, swollen? Edema? If so, look into a good
>>>> diuretic posthaste. One called Farxiga did wonders for me; I lost 50
>>>> pounds after being put on it, accidentally.
>>>>
>>>> Dave, and no my feet are not balloons with toes
>>>
>>>
>>>      I have been on 75mg of HCTZ for over a decade, and .4mg of
>>> Tamsulosin for over five years.
>>
>> It says something about demographics of this froup that we can have an
>> in-depth discussion of Diabetes Type II medications, and its not out of
>> place. :-( We're getting old.
>>
>> pt
> 
> It is the nature of the usenet.  The millennials hang out in "hip" places.
> 
Soon enough those will turn into hip replacement places.


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#481644 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-06 08:38 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA84357D324FD7taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#481624
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:70d03bc3-cc52-4da7-ab05-2c8ccee5235a@googlegroups.com: 

> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:42:45 AM UTC-7, Michael A
> Terrell wrote: 
> 
>>    When I first started taking it, I cursed everyone who
>>    developed it, 
>> manufactured it, and prescribed it for being sadistic SOBs. It
>> took six months before my body could handle it, even at 1/4 of
>> the prescribed dose. 
> 
> Presumably you must have been prescribed a rather high dosage -
> or you have a sensitivity to it. For most Type II diabetics, it
> is a vast improvement on taking insulin, which has serious risks
> and which is nearly ineffective for that condition.
> 
A doctor who prescribes insulin for Type II diabetes is incompetent. 
There are, however, other mediations that work similiarily, or are 
otherwise suitable for Type II, such as glipizide or pioglitazone 
hydrochloride.

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#481660 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromRobert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>
Date2017-12-06 13:54 -0800
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<23c59f98-20b5-4b1c-9ef5-37859e1190bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#481644
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:38:03 UTC, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy  wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
> news:70d03bc3-cc52-4da7-ab05-2c8ccee5235a@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:42:45 AM UTC-7, Michael A
> > Terrell wrote: 
> > 
> >>    When I first started taking it, I cursed everyone who
> >>    developed it, 
> >> manufactured it, and prescribed it for being sadistic SOBs. It
> >> took six months before my body could handle it, even at 1/4 of
> >> the prescribed dose. 
> > 
> > Presumably you must have been prescribed a rather high dosage -
> > or you have a sensitivity to it. For most Type II diabetics, it
> > is a vast improvement on taking insulin, which has serious risks
> > and which is nearly ineffective for that condition.
> > 
> A doctor who prescribes insulin for Type II diabetes is incompetent. 
> There are, however, other mediations that work similiarily, or are 
> otherwise suitable for Type II, such as glipizide or pioglitazone 
> hydrochloride.

Bluntly, I wouldn't let you recommend me a breath mint.

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#481661 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromLawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-06 16:58 -0500
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<ftpg2dt03fhpocn9u88is1n1dj5733sr82@reader80.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#481660
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:54:34 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:38:03 UTC, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy  wrote:
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>> news:70d03bc3-cc52-4da7-ab05-2c8ccee5235a@googlegroups.com: 
>> 
>> > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:42:45 AM UTC-7, Michael A
>> > Terrell wrote: 
>> > 
>> >>    When I first started taking it, I cursed everyone who
>> >>    developed it, 
>> >> manufactured it, and prescribed it for being sadistic SOBs. It
>> >> took six months before my body could handle it, even at 1/4 of
>> >> the prescribed dose. 
>> > 
>> > Presumably you must have been prescribed a rather high dosage -
>> > or you have a sensitivity to it. For most Type II diabetics, it
>> > is a vast improvement on taking insulin, which has serious risks
>> > and which is nearly ineffective for that condition.
>> > 
>> A doctor who prescribes insulin for Type II diabetes is incompetent. 
>> There are, however, other mediations that work similiarily, or are 
>> otherwise suitable for Type II, such as glipizide or pioglitazone 
>> hydrochloride.
>
>Bluntly, I wouldn't let you recommend me a breath mint.

Okay, but he's right about this one.  Type II diabetics should not
take insulin.

There are a LOT of medications available now, as I see on the TV ads.
Metformin remains the drug of choice, with Glipizide a common add-on.




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#481669 — Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-06 15:40 -0700
SubjectRe: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse"
Message-ID<XnsA8439F6B1D5E8taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#481661
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ftpg2dt03fhpocn9u88is1n1dj5733sr82@reader80.eternal-september.
org: 

> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:54:34 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
> <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:38:03 UTC, Gutless Umbrella
>>Carrying Sissy  wrote: 
>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>> news:70d03bc3-cc52-4da7-ab05-2c8ccee5235a@googlegroups.com: 
>>> 
>>> > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:42:45 AM UTC-7, Michael
>>> > A Terrell wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> >>    When I first started taking it, I cursed everyone who
>>> >>    developed it, 
>>> >> manufactured it, and prescribed it for being sadistic SOBs.
>>> >> It took six months before my body could handle it, even at
>>> >> 1/4 of the prescribed dose. 
>>> > 
>>> > Presumably you must have been prescribed a rather high
>>> > dosage - or you have a sensitivity to it. For most Type II
>>> > diabetics, it is a vast improvement on taking insulin, which
>>> > has serious risks and which is nearly ineffective for that
>>> > condition. 
>>> > 
>>> A doctor who prescribes insulin for Type II diabetes is
>>> incompetent. There are, however, other mediations that work
>>> similiarily, or are otherwise suitable for Type II, such as
>>> glipizide or pioglitazone hydrochloride.
>>
>>Bluntly, I wouldn't let you recommend me a breath mint.
> 
> Okay, but he's right about this one.  Type II diabetics should
> not take insulin.

There are, apparently, circumstances where it's prescribed - as an 
addition to other medication. But Quaddie's idiotic implication 
that it's used _instead of_ Metformin is, as usual, idiotic.
> 
> There are a LOT of medications available now, as I see on the TV
> ads. Metformin remains the drug of choice, with Glipizide a
> common add-on. 
> 
Broadly speaking, Metformin is in a class of drug that makes the 
body more sensitive to (naturally produced) insulin, while 
Glipizide is in a class of drug that stimulates more production of 
insulin. Pioglitazone hydrochloride (brand name Actos, though it's 
out of patent now so is available in generic form) is, I believe, 
in the former category, though it also apparently has some addition 
effects that are considered desriable over the usual drugs from 
that class. Or so my doctor told me.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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