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| Started by | Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-11-27 15:58 -0600 |
| Last post | 2017-11-30 21:30 -0600 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 192 — 29 participants |
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"After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-11-27 15:58 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2017-11-28 16:32 +1300
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-11-27 23:16 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming �Apocalypse�" Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2017-11-28 19:32 +1300
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-11-27 23:59 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-11-28 05:35 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 05:37 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 05:41 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-01 15:56 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-03-21 21:08 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 16:17 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-01 16:25 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-01 16:54 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 09:55 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 13:40 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 14:29 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2017-12-02 14:05 +1100
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:51 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-04 14:30 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 13:18 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-02 14:31 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-02 15:28 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-03 00:10 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-02 17:51 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-02 16:14 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:44 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:55 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:54 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:52 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 13:13 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-02 22:51 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-01 15:28 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-02 00:23 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 14:07 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 00:59 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 01:08 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 07:29 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-03 08:06 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-03 15:18 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 13:41 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-03 15:20 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 15:29 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-03 06:40 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 12:27 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-05 06:03 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 08:34 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-05 16:47 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 10:41 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:42 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:09 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:22 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:45 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 14:54 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 13:55 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 17:59 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 15:46 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-05 17:58 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 16:36 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 00:13 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 02:20 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 02:42 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 23:53 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 04:54 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 06:06 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 07:26 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-06 16:00 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-06 09:31 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 09:55 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 03:37 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 05:47 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 06:24 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 10:35 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:24 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:26 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:41 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:53 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 17:27 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-07 16:09 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:55 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-07 19:23 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 21:04 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 02:48 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:07 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-08 23:25 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 19:19 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-08 17:25 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 09:38 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:15 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 14:25 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-08 15:27 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 15:41 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 18:46 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-08 15:45 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 09:25 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 09:46 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-07 15:38 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:38 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-06 13:54 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 16:58 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:40 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:36 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 14:31 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 15:42 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 22:13 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 09:01 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:23 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 11:27 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:24 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 11:28 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-07 11:32 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 12:47 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:34 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 00:10 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2017-12-05 21:23 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 22:00 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 21:33 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-06 22:15 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 08:59 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-07 10:06 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 13:29 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-07 10:47 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 10:51 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 14:10 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 20:14 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 10:50 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 22:48 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-06 02:44 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 03:40 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 09:02 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 13:33 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 16:47 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Siberian Sheep Shipper <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:14 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 18:01 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-07 14:15 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 02:44 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Napenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 08:36 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-08 10:41 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-08 22:16 +0200
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 12:31 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 16:47 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-08 23:57 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-08 16:12 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Siberian Sheep Shipper <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:13 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 17:57 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-11 05:19 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2017-12-11 07:59 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 21:20 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 21:17 -0600
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 22:52 -0500
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-12-12 08:45 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2017-12-31 22:13 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-01 18:25 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 06:48 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 13:20 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2018-01-03 02:40 +0000
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Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-05 23:28 -0800
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Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-06 01:43 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 08:35 -0700
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Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:40 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-06 13:01 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2017-12-06 13:24 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-06 23:56 +0000
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-12-06 16:40 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:42 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2017-12-05 11:25 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-12-05 11:46 -0700
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’" Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2017-11-28 05:54 -0800
Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2017-11-28 17:19 +0200
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Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ?Apocalypse?" hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2017-11-30 16:37 -0800
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2017-12-03 15:20 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <f8jblfF9sdeU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #481489 |
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: >> If 30 feet of air absorb 80% of IR, then 300 feet absorb 99.9999% of IR. >> ...and yet, the sun feels warm. > >Prof Bryson made a number of doubtful claims, but there's no contradiction here. The sun heats us by solar, not IR. I think you meant to say "at optical wavelengths". Whatever wavelengths made it through to a sunbathing Davis would be "solar" rays. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-03 15:29 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <f318a47e-8a3a-40d6-860a-6101ce3445a8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #481493 |
On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 5:20:36 PM UTC-5, Greg Goss wrote: > William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> If 30 feet of air absorb 80% of IR, then 300 feet absorb 99.9999% of IR. > >> ...and yet, the sun feels warm. > > > >Prof Bryson made a number of doubtful claims, but there's no contradiction here. The sun heats us by solar, not IR. > > I think you meant to say "at optical wavelengths". Whatever > wavelengths made it through to a sunbathing Davis would be "solar" True, that was tautological. It's a shorhand used in the field but I really should drop it. William Hyde
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| From | hamish.laws@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-03 06:40 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <2fb51905-a817-42f7-9f15-7b12dac57d31@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #481404 |
On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:54:04 AM UTC+11, D B Davis wrote: > Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote: > > Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes: > >>On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 10:35:07 PM UTC-7, D B Davis wrote: > >>> Mass media first > >>> promoted a global warming apocalypse at least 143 years ago. > >> > >>That would have been in 1874. > > > > Well, 1896 anyway <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius> > > > > "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" - Richard Feynman > > Almost 40 years ago, Bryson stood before the American Association > for the Advancement of Science and presented a paper saying human > activity could alter climate. > > "I was laughed off the platform for saying that," he told > Wisconsin Energy Cooperative News. > > In the 1960s, Bryson's idea was widely considered a radical > proposition. But nowadays things have turned almost in the > opposite direction: Hardly a day passes without some authority > figure claiming that whatever the climate happens to be doing, > human activity must be part of the explanation. And once again, > Bryson is challenging the conventional wisdom. ... > > Q: Could you rank the things that have the most significant impact > and where would you put carbon dioxide on the list? > > A: Well let me give you one fact first. In the first 30 feet of > the atmosphere, on the average, outward radiation from the > Earth, which is what CO2 is supposed to affect, how much [of > the reflected energy] is absorbed by water vapor? In the first > 30 feet, 80 percent, okay? > > Q: Eighty percent of the heat radiated back from the surface is > absorbed in the first 30 feet by water vapor... > > A: And how much is absorbed by carbon dioxide? Eight hundredths > of one percent. One one-thousandth as important as water vapor. > You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as > doubling carbon dioxide. > > This begs questions about the widely publicized mathematical > models researchers run through supercomputers to generate climate > scenarios 50 or 100 years in the future. Bryson says the data fed > into the computers overemphasizes carbon dioxide and accounts > poorly for the effects of clouds - water vapor. Asked to evaluate > the models' long-range predictive ability, he answers with another > question: "Do you believe a five-day forecast?" > > https://web.archive.org/web/20070508023151/http://wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures and explain why literally every other climate scientist would be ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old isn't all that together than that he's right and everybody else is wrong...
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-03 12:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8407EAE8D6A4taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #481469 |
hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
news:2fb51905-a817-42f7-9f15-7b12dac57d31@googlegroups.com:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:54:04 AM UTC+11, D B Davis
> wrote:
>> Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> > Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>> >>On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 10:35:07 PM UTC-7, D B Davis
>> >>wrote:
>> >>> Mass media first
>> >>> promoted a global warming apocalypse at least 143 years
>> >>> ago.
>> >>
>> >>That would have been in 1874.
>> >
>> > Well, 1896 anyway
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius>
>> >
>>
>> "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" - Richard
>> Feynman
>>
>> Almost 40 years ago, Bryson stood before the American
>> Association for the Advancement of Science and presented a
>> paper saying human activity could alter climate.
>>
>> "I was laughed off the platform for saying that," he told
>> Wisconsin Energy Cooperative News.
>>
>> In the 1960s, Bryson's idea was widely considered a radical
>> proposition. But nowadays things have turned almost in the
>> opposite direction: Hardly a day passes without some
>> authority figure claiming that whatever the climate happens
>> to be doing, human activity must be part of the
>> explanation. And once again, Bryson is challenging the
>> conventional wisdom. ...
>>
>> Q: Could you rank the things that have the most significant
>> impact
>> and where would you put carbon dioxide on the list?
>>
>> A: Well let me give you one fact first. In the first 30
>> feet of
>> the atmosphere, on the average, outward radiation from
>> the Earth, which is what CO2 is supposed to affect, how
>> much [of the reflected energy] is absorbed by water
>> vapor? In the first 30 feet, 80 percent, okay?
>>
>> Q: Eighty percent of the heat radiated back from the
>> surface is
>> absorbed in the first 30 feet by water vapor...
>>
>> A: And how much is absorbed by carbon dioxide? Eight
>> hundredths
>> of one percent. One one-thousandth as important as water
>> vapor. You can go outside and spit and have the same
>> effect as doubling carbon dioxide.
>>
>> This begs questions about the widely publicized
>> mathematical models researchers run through supercomputers
>> to generate climate scenarios 50 or 100 years in the
>> future. Bryson says the data fed into the computers
>> overemphasizes carbon dioxide and accounts poorly for the
>> effects of clouds - water vapor. Asked to evaluate the
>> models' long-range predictive ability, he answers with
>> another question: "Do you believe a five-day forecast?"
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070508023151/http://wecnmagazine.c
>> om/2007is
> sues/may/may07.html
>
>
> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures
> and explain why literally every other climate scientist would be
> ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old isn't
> all that together than that he's right and everybody else is
> wrong...
That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so I'm
going to attack him on a personal level."
Which is why so many people dismiss climate change as a hoax.
It's cult behavior.
Lie down with dogs . . .
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-12-05 06:03 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <1IOdnV0qp-GyFrvHnZ2dnUU7-R2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #481482 |
On 2017-12-03, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in >> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures >> and explain why literally every other climate scientist would be >> ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old isn't >> all that together than that he's right and everybody else is wrong... > > That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so I'm > going to attack him on a personal level." Well, no, it actually sounds more like a particularly on-topic Arthur C. Clarke quote. Dave, you know the one, elderly but distinguished, not certain Bryson is 'distinguished' tho -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 08:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA842574C8A000taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #481552 |
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:1IOdnV0qp-GyFrvHnZ2dnUU7-R2dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
> On 2017-12-03, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>>> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures
>>> and explain why literally every other climate scientist would
>>> be ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old
>>> isn't all that together than that he's right and everybody
>>> else is wrong...
>>
>> That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so
>> I'm going to attack him on a personal level."
>
> Well, no, it actually sounds more like a particularly on-topic
> Arthur C. Clarke quote.
>
> Dave, you know the one, elderly but distinguished, not certain
> Bryson is
> 'distinguished' tho
QED.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 16:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <20171205a@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #481552 |
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2017-12-03, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>>> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures
>>> and explain why literally every other climate scientist would be
>>> ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old isn't
>>> all that together than that he's right and everybody else is wrong...
>>
>> That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so I'm
>> going to attack him on a personal level."
>
> Well, no, it actually sounds more like a particularly on-topic Arthur C.
> Clarke quote.
>
> Dave, you know the one, elderly but distinguished, not certain Bryson is
> 'distinguished' tho
And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers yet another
Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a distinguished
AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you.
Thank you,
--
Don
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| From | Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-05 10:41 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <5912aafe-05d4-4356-b98f-26289760f73f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #481565 |
On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-5, D B Davis wrote: > David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 2017-12-03, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in > >>> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his figures > >>> and explain why literally every other climate scientist would be > >>> ignoring it it seems much more likely that an 87 year old isn't > >>> all that together than that he's right and everybody else is wrong... > >> > >> That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so I'm > >> going to attack him on a personal level." > > > > Well, no, it actually sounds more like a particularly on-topic Arthur C. > > Clarke quote. > > > > Dave, you know the one, elderly but distinguished, not certain Bryson is > > 'distinguished' tho > > And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers yet another > Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a distinguished > AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you. ...and you're arguing by appeal to authority. Neither one is how science works. Bryson has made a testable claim: that 80% of IR light reflected from the ground is absorbed by the water vapor in just 30 feet of air. That's what I want to see a justification of. The average temperature of the Earth is around 61F/16C/289K, which puts the peak emission around 10 um, in the mid-infrared. 10 um IS near a peak of water vapor absorption of IR, but what I want to see is the numbers that prove the at average humidity, 80% of BBR is absorbed in 30 feet of sea level air. Of course, the 'average' temp and humidity doesn't model things entirely accurately. Deviations from average matter - while air over the ocean and damp parts of the earth is often saturated, that over the deserts and poles deviate from the average in both humidity (very low) and temperature (way above or below). Bryson has made a verifiable claim. I'd like to see someone verify it. pt
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 11:42 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8427727D909Ctaustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #481574 |
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5912aafe-05d4-4356-b98f-26289760f73f@googlegroups.com:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-5, D B Davis
> wrote:
>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > On 2017-12-03, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> > <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> hamish.laws@gmail.com wrote in
>> >>> Unless you can point to actual evidence supporting his
>> >>> figures and explain why literally every other climate
>> >>> scientist would be ignoring it it seems much more likely
>> >>> that an 87 year old isn't all that together than that he's
>> >>> right and everybody else is wrong...
>> >>
>> >> That sounds suspiciously like "I don't like what he says, so
>> >> I'm going to attack him on a personal level."
>> >
>> > Well, no, it actually sounds more like a particularly
>> > on-topic Arthur C. Clarke quote.
>> >
>> > Dave, you know the one, elderly but distinguished, not
>> > certain Bryson is 'distinguished' tho
>>
>> And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers yet
>> another
>> Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a
>> distinguished AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you.
>
> ...and you're arguing by appeal to authority. Neither one is how
> science works.
>
> Bryson has made a testable claim: that 80% of IR light reflected
> from the ground is absorbed by the water vapor in just 30 feet
> of air.
And all that has been presented of it is a clueless reporter's
write-up of an interview. I suspect what he actually said, in
context, is not even close to what you've latched on to.
> Bryson has made a verifiable claim. I'd like to see someone
> verify it.
>
I'd like to see the actual claim, in context, first, to insure
you're not arguing with a straw man, just to complete the set of
logical errors.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 11:09 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <67d5a5cf-bb6e-4121-aa92-0b1428244073@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #481565 |
On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-7, D B Davis wrote: > And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers yet another > Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a distinguished > AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you. There are no AGW dissenters, distinguished or otherwise, that are acceptable to me for the same reason that no creationists, no Flat Earthers, no contactees, no Moon Hoax advocates, and so on, are acceptable to me. John Savard
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 11:22 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <0828f01a-6ebc-4924-87ba-210db41b4df1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #481576 |
On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 12:09:41 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote: > On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-7, D B Davis wrote: > > And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers yet another > > Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a distinguished > > AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you. > There are no AGW dissenters, distinguished or otherwise, that are acceptable to me > for the same reason that no creationists, no Flat Earthers, no contactees, no Moon > Hoax advocates, and so on, are acceptable to me. ...and before you say that this means I don't have an open mind, I should note the following: If I had a degree in climatology, then I would know enough to distinguish good ideas from bad in that field. So I could keep my mind open just enough to let possibly good new ideas in, but keep out the silly ones. If, though, I don't know enough about the field to distinguish worthy new ideas from quackery... then I should let the recognized professionals in the field do the thinking about the subject, and gratefully accept the fruits of their labor. John Savard
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 11:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8427792F135Ataustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #481578 |
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:0828f01a-6ebc-4924-87ba-210db41b4df1@googlegroups.com:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 12:09:41 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-7, D B Davis
>> wrote:
>
>> > And so it goes. Yet another rasw AGW enthusiast offers
>> > yet another
>> > Bryson ad hominem. If you don't like Bryson, please name a
>> > distinguished AGW dissenter that's acceptable to you.
>
>> There are no AGW dissenters, distinguished or otherwise, that
>> are acceptable to me for the same reason that no creationists,
>> no Flat Earthers, no contactees, no Moon Hoax advocates, and so
>> on, are acceptable to me.
>
> ...and before you say that this means I don't have an open mind,
That is *exactly* what it means.
> I should note the following:
>
> If I had a degree in climatology, then I would know enough to
> distinguish good ideas from bad in that field.
But since you don't, you assume that anyone who disagrees with your
fantasy must be wrong.
Act like a cult, you get treated like a cult.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 14:54 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <o9ud2dl72od9f690rjrla918gnh1tmlpd8@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #481584 |
Hey, Terry -- you've been Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy for a long time now. Have you considered changing to a new name? -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Tom Derringer in the Tunnels of Terror. See http://www.watt-evans.com/TomDerringerintheTunnelsofTerror.shtml
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 13:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8428DB2DCD5Ctaustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #481586 |
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:o9ud2dl72od9f690rjrla918gnh1tmlpd8@reader80.eternal-september.
org:
>
> Hey, Terry -- you've been Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy for a
> long time now. Have you considered changing to a new name?
Nobody has come up with any entertaining insults lately.
(I was called a sperm guzzling penis leech once, in a computer game.
I could try that.)
Any suggestions?
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 17:59 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <r49e2d1fiabg9ukgg20stkh9s4u7u9ek90@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #481596 |
On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 13:55:46 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in >news:o9ud2dl72od9f690rjrla918gnh1tmlpd8@reader80.eternal-september. >org: > >> Hey, Terry -- you've been Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy for a >> long time now. Have you considered changing to a new name? > >Nobody has come up with any entertaining insults lately. > >(I was called a sperm guzzling penis leech once, in a computer game. >I could try that.) > >Any suggestions? Alas, no. I don't think I have the right mind-set. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Tom Derringer in the Tunnels of Terror. See http://www.watt-evans.com/TomDerringerintheTunnelsofTerror.shtml
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 15:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA842A081983B4taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #481598 |
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:r49e2d1fiabg9ukgg20stkh9s4u7u9ek90@reader80.eternal-september.
org:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 13:55:46 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
> Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:o9ud2dl72od9f690rjrla918gnh1tmlpd8@reader80.eternal-septembe
>>r. org:
>>
>>> Hey, Terry -- you've been Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy for
>>> a long time now. Have you considered changing to a new name?
>>
>>Nobody has come up with any entertaining insults lately.
>>
>>(I was called a sperm guzzling penis leech once, in a computer
>>game. I could try that.)
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>
> Alas, no. I don't think I have the right mind-set.
>
And you a professional word smith, and all. I am dissapointed.
Maybe you need some lessons in being petty and childish. This *is*
the internet, after all. There are rules about this sort of thing.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 17:58 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <auOdnTeag80lr7rHnZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #481599 |
On 2017-12-05, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe you need some lessons in being petty and childish. This *is* > the internet, after all. There are rules about this sort of thing. Screaming Microwaveable-Kitten Smith? Worse Than Your Bite, Boy? There's always the classic Your Brain Is Full Of Spiders, or its companion You Have Garlic in Your Soul... Dave, Idiot-Sensitive Creative Misspellor? -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-05 16:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <XnsA842A8F5E6033taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #481600 |
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:auOdnTeag80lr7rHnZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@earthlink.com:
> On 2017-12-05, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Maybe you need some lessons in being petty and childish. This
>> *is* the internet, after all. There are rules about this sort
>> of thing.
>
> Screaming Microwaveable-Kitten Smith?
>
> Worse Than Your Bite, Boy?
>
> There's always the classic Your Brain Is Full Of Spiders, or its
> companion You Have Garlic in Your Soul...
>
> Dave, Idiot-Sensitive Creative Misspellor?
You have no poetry in your soul whatsoever, do you?
How does Toenail Fungus sound? Flaming Diarrhea is a bit obvious.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-06 00:13 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <g0LVB.26965$9p5.5879@fx19.iad> |
| In reply to | #481603 |
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:auOdnTeag80lr7rHnZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>
>> On 2017-12-05, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Maybe you need some lessons in being petty and childish. This
>>> *is* the internet, after all. There are rules about this sort
>>> of thing.
>>
>> Screaming Microwaveable-Kitten Smith?
>>
>> Worse Than Your Bite, Boy?
>>
>> There's always the classic Your Brain Is Full Of Spiders, or its
>> companion You Have Garlic in Your Soul...
>>
>> Dave, Idiot-Sensitive Creative Misspellor?
>
> You have no poetry in your soul whatsoever, do you?
>
> How does Toenail Fungus sound? Flaming Diarrhea is a bit obvious.
Flaming Diarrhea is but one side effect of taking Metformin, which
is the original provider of weaponized crap flinging!
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-12-06 02:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Message-ID | <eh6f2dp9s96514hh1i5ca5kl2hd9e5bpt4@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #481612 |
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 00:13:52 -0500, Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: >> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in >> news:auOdnTeag80lr7rHnZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@earthlink.com: >> >>> On 2017-12-05, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Maybe you need some lessons in being petty and childish. This >>>> *is* the internet, after all. There are rules about this sort >>>> of thing. >>> >>> Screaming Microwaveable-Kitten Smith? >>> >>> Worse Than Your Bite, Boy? >>> >>> There's always the classic Your Brain Is Full Of Spiders, or its >>> companion You Have Garlic in Your Soul... >>> >>> Dave, Idiot-Sensitive Creative Misspellor? >> >> You have no poetry in your soul whatsoever, do you? >> >> How does Toenail Fungus sound? Flaming Diarrhea is a bit obvious. > > Flaming Diarrhea is but one side effect of taking Metformin, which >is the original provider of weaponized crap flinging! Hey! I like metformin! It's served me well this past decade. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Tom Derringer in the Tunnels of Terror. See http://www.watt-evans.com/TomDerringerintheTunnelsofTerror.shtml
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