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  Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 18:44 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan) - 2015-10-08 04:08 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-08 14:59 +0000
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-08 11:14 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 15:43 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-08 12:16 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 22:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:50 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-09 00:32 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-09 00:21 -0600
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2015-10-09 11:08 +0100
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-10-10 00:09 +0100
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:22 -0400
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 07:59 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-11 01:43 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 06:26 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-11 09:08 -0600
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:14 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-09 09:28 -0600
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:40 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:25 +0000
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 15:59 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:19 +0000
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 17:08 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 14:56 -0700
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:02 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 15:09 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:13 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 15:38 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:49 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-09 23:48 +0000
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 23:54 +0000
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 17:07 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:37 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-10 20:21 -0600
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 02:24 +0000
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 22:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-09 11:43 -0300
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-08 16:53 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 22:16 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:05 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-09 00:58 +0100
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 21:59 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-08 19:23 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 04:16 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:19 -0400
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:03 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book PeterM <petermeilinger@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 15:34 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-10-11 10:25 +0100
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-11 18:53 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-10 17:28 -0600
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-08 13:49 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:50 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 22:05 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-09 15:32 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:26 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 13:35 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:11 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:06 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 14:26 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-10 16:49 +0000
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 17:26 +0000
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 13:48 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 17:56 +0000
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 10:51 +0800
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-10-14 17:37 +1100
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 07:13 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:53 -0700
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-14 14:05 +0000
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-15 12:24 +0800
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-15 01:48 -0400
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-15 13:04 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 09:22 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-15 22:37 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 16:28 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 22:08 -0400
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 22:27 -0400
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-17 03:46 +0000
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book J. Moreno <planb@newsreaders.com> - 2015-10-17 05:58 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-18 07:13 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:47 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-15 12:01 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-15 15:15 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-10-15 16:16 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-15 18:01 -0700
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-15 21:54 -0600
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-10-16 07:32 +0100
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 13:35 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-16 14:57 +0800
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-10-16 21:03 +1100
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-16 13:22 +0000
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-16 09:28 -0700
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-16 16:58 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-16 13:45 -0700
                                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 14:54 -0700
                                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 15:03 -0700
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 13:39 -0400
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 10:47 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-15 16:08 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 19:08 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-18 02:41 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-16 14:56 +0800
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 16:32 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 22:11 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-10 13:54 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 19:13 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-11 01:43 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 05:54 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 13:37 -0600
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:45 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 14:19 -0600
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:52 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:52 -0400
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 14:22 -0600
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:53 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 15:11 -0600
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 14:55 -0700
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 16:14 -0600
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:57 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:09 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:09 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-10 12:40 -0600
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-11 15:23 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-11 12:06 -0500
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 20:27 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 01:53 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-13 09:56 -0600
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 17:02 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-10 00:44 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:46 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 05:56 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-09 16:53 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:44 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 22:36 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-08 02:01 -0600
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-08 05:01 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 08:33 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-08 21:13 -0700
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 10:30 -0400
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 15:10 +0000
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-09 09:28 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:33 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 13:39 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 22:06 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-10 11:09 +0800
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:15 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-10-10 16:26 +0100
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 11:02 +0800
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-10 21:41 -0600
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 10:54 +0800
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 05:35 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 05:36 -0400
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-15 14:34 +0800
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 13:10 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 08:47 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:49 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-08 14:51 -0600
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-08 15:04 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:23 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 10:59 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:39 +0000
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-08 01:56 -0500
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:52 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-10 02:12 -0500
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 05:55 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 08:49 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:06 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:55 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-10-08 13:42 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-10 11:14 +0800
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-10-10 18:31 +1100
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 11:03 +0800
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 05:41 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 13:13 +0000
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 12:45 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 -0600
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:42 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 06:00 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 06:04 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 07:22 -0700
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 05:58 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-13 10:03 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 06:01 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 09:11 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-14 13:33 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 14:21 -0400
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-14 22:00 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 22:08 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-15 03:20 +0000
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-15 04:30 -0700
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 09:21 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-15 09:40 -0700
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-14 23:28 -0400
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:31 -0400
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:54 -0400
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 23:43 +0000
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 08:10 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) - 2015-10-09 18:43 +0000

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#424332

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 8:45:05 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:


> I took a look on Amazon.  It looks great, and I want it, but it's
> only in hardback (for twenty-five bucks) or Kindle (which I don't
> have.)  


http://ebook.online-convert.com/convert-to-epub

It will convert various file formats into other formats.  I use it to convert to epubs (I have a Nook) but if you need something else it will do that too.

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#424354

"Dorothy J Heydt"  wrote

>>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers:
>>> Firefly without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with
>>> aliens, on what could very well be a Far Trader.

>>That is an excellent book (and I was fortunate enough to
>>find it before it went commercial).

> I took a look on Amazon.  It looks great, and I want it, but it's
only in hardback (for twenty-five bucks) or Kindle (which I don't
have.)  Bookmarked for the future when I have the money.


A rather expensive (because UK) paperback is due in December.
http://www.bookdepository.com/Long-Way-Small-Angry-Planet-Becky-Chambers/9781473619814


-- 
Mike D

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#424356

In article <xfygyk33am40.15unlsp9xxwdj$.dlg@40tude.net>,
"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> said:

> James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote
>
>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers:
>> Firefly without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens,
>> on what could very well be a Far Trader.
>
> That is an excellent book (and I was fortunate enough to
> find it before it went commercial).

"Went commercial?"  I'm guessing that means that it used to
be available for free but these days it costs monety.

-- wds

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#424359

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-4, William December Starr wrote:
> In article <xfygyk33am40.15unlsp9xxwdj$.dlg@40tude.net>,
> "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> said:
> 
> > James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote
> >
> >> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers:
> >> Firefly without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens,
> >> on what could very well be a Far Trader.
> >
> > That is an excellent book (and I was fortunate enough to
> > find it before it went commercial).
> 
> "Went commercial?"  I'm guessing that means that it used to
> be available for free but these days it costs monety.
> 
> -- wds

Perhaps an allusion to following new and obscure rock 'n roll
bands, before they have The Hit and all the posers jump on the
bandwagon?

ObTheTubes: "I Was A Punk Before You Were A Punk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxUTv32ix8 

Kevin R

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#424367

In article <mv772d$ok7$1@panix3.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <xfygyk33am40.15unlsp9xxwdj$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> said:
>
>> James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote
>>
>>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers:
>>> Firefly without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens,
>>> on what could very well be a Far Trader.
>>
>> That is an excellent book (and I was fortunate enough to
>> find it before it went commercial).
>
>"Went commercial?"  I'm guessing that means that it used to
>be available for free but these days it costs monety.

I searched on the title and found, not only the Amazon listing
but an article describing how a Kickstarter fund had succeeded in
getting it published, after it succeeded in getting the author to
finish it.  :)

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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#424391

On 8 Oct 2015 21:59:41 -0400, William December Starr
<wdstarr@panix.com> wrote
in<news:mv772d$ok7$1@panix3.panix.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:

> In article <xfygyk33am40.15unlsp9xxwdj$.dlg@40tude.net>,
> "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> said:

>> James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote

>>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers:
>>> Firefly without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens,
>>> on what could very well be a Far Trader.

>> That is an excellent book (and I was fortunate enough to
>> find it before it went commercial).

> "Went commercial?"  I'm guessing that means that it used to
> be available for free but these days it costs monety.

Not for free, but at a typical indie low price, if I
remember correctly.  It was originally published thanks to
a Kickstarter project, but it was then picked up by Hodder.

Brian
-- 
It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their
holes to root for sandtatties.  The waves whispered
rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss,
haggisss.

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#424331

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:59:44 AM UTC-7, James Nicoll wrote:


> >>I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
> >>
> >>I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers
> >>on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.


> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly without
> the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could very well be a 
> Far Trader.


Sounds cool.  Sadly, not available to me.  I mean, it's RIGHT THERE in the library system... as an ebook I can't access because that involves installing software, which you can't on library computers.



> (btw, there is a new edition of the Mongoose Traveller coming out)


As a SYSTEM I have never actually been impressed by Traveller.  It's... OK.  




> Maybe some of the John Grimes books, the ones after he leaves the 
> Survey Service?


Author?  Titles?  



> I think Jefferson P. Swycaffer's books were supposed to be based on 
> Classic Traveller but they have none of the look and feel of CT. Avoid.


Not available.  




> Dumarest, obviously.


Got those, haven't read them though.



> Norton's Solar Queen. Although they're worse at delivering stuff successfully
> than most Traveller traders.
> 
> Witches of Karres.


Have Norton, haven't read yet.

 
> There are, btw, a crap ton of sequels to Piper by people who are not Piper.
> I have not read them and have no opinion but they do exist:
> 
> http://www.pequodpress.com/ebookstore.php


I tend to avoid even elevated fanfiction.  I mean, I know they exist too...

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#424512

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:03:39 AM UTC-7, Shawn Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:59:44 AM UTC-7, James Nicoll wrote:

> > The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly without
> > the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could very well be a 
> > Far Trader.
> 
> Sounds cool.  Sadly, not available to me.  I mean, it's RIGHT THERE in 
> the library system... as an ebook I can't access because that involves 
> installing software, which you can't on library computers.

I was going to suggest asking for the software to be officially installed so everyone can use it, but the systems I'm familiar with require the software to be registered to the person who has the ebook checked out.

Some systems - Overdrive, at least - allow most ebooks to be read in a web browser. No software required. I imagine you'd have noticed if that was an option, but maybe not.

You could always ask for the library to purchase the physical book. No idea if they would, of course. My library doesn't get many purchase requests, for whatever reason, so I tend to buy anything people ask for as long as I can at least vaguely justify it as belonging in the collection. 

David DeLaney suggested interlibrary loan. That's a good idea for most books, but I just checked Worldcat and this one is only owned by four libraries in America. Denver, Omaha and two libraries in Florida and New Hampshire. Be worth a shot, though. 

Now, on to actual recommendations. I'm not sure of your definition of Heinlein- or Piper-esque, but most of these hit some of the same buttons for me as the Heinlein juveniles I've read. Some are just books I trot out anytime someone asks for recommendations.

Wildside by Steven Gould - A high schooler finds a portal to another world in the barn out back and enlists his friends in an attempt to get to Stage Three: Profit!

7th Sigma by Steven Gould - Ten or fifteen years ago a horde of mechanical bugs descended upon the American Southwest. They eat anything metal and use it to make more bugs, and they'll burrow through dirt, stone and flesh to get to the metal. They also attack anything broadcasting radio waves, whether it's metal or not. People still live in the area, using a combination of primitive technology and high-tech non-metallic tools crafted outside of the area the bugs control. The main character is a young kid who's more or less adopted by a woman who's emigrated to the area to start an aikido dojo, if that's the right term. It's a good coming of age story with a really fascinating setting.

Dark Life by Kat Falls - rising sea-waters and some truly horrific earthquakes have greatly reduced the dry living space in the US, so a number of undersea communities have sprung up in the aftermath. One of our heroes is a boy who was born and has lived his entire life underwater, hardly ever coming to the surface. The other is a girl who has run away from her orphanage/school to look for her older brother. Together, they fight underwater crime! Not so much by choice, mind you.

Wearing The Cape by Marion G Harmon. Ten or twelve years ago people started developing super-powers. The world that's resulted is less like our own than most comic book settings, but more like our own than is probably realistic, but that's enough for me to suspend disbelief. Our heroine is a young lady who develops Superman-like powers after a terrorist drops a bridge on her. Well, he was aiming for a politician but hit lots of other people, too. She has to be trained to use her powers safely, and is definitely of the "great responsibility" mindset so she ends up joining the local super-team. Another story where an interesting setting is gradually revealed.

Poor Man's Fight by Elliott Kay. An intelligent young man in a space-opera-ish setting is forced to join the military instead of going to college after he bombs the aptitude test which is administered by a company that decides how much you have to pay them for college based on how you do on their test. He gets many chances to show he's very good at being a soldier, even though he really, really does not care for it.

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#424556

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:34:25 -0700 (PDT), PeterM
<petermeilinger@gmail.com> wrote:

>Wildside by Steven Gould - A high schooler finds a portal to another world in the barn out back and enlists his friends in an attempt to get to Stage Three: Profit!

Seconded. This hit all the buttons that I liked about RAH's juvies and
none that I disliked (the "Weak Link in the Team" character is dealt a
little more authorly compassion than I think RAH would have given).

Since starting Gould's works with Jumper just after seeing the film,
he's rapidly  moved into my top 10 living SF writers (LMB is still top
and Jim Butcher is in there too). And I wish they'd remake the film,
this time following the book.

-- 
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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#424579

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:25:12 +0100, Jerry Brown
<jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:34:25 -0700 (PDT), PeterM
><petermeilinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Wildside by Steven Gould - A high schooler finds a portal to another world in the barn out back and enlists his friends in an attempt to get to Stage Three: Profit!

     Someone a bit older (early 20s) and we have Stirling's
_Conquistador_.

>Seconded. This hit all the buttons that I liked about RAH's juvies and
>none that I disliked (the "Weak Link in the Team" character is dealt a
>little more authorly compassion than I think RAH would have given).
>
>Since starting Gould's works with Jumper just after seeing the film,
>he's rapidly  moved into my top 10 living SF writers (LMB is still top
>and Jim Butcher is in there too). And I wish they'd remake the film,
>this time following the book.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#424513

On 10/8/2015 12:03 PM, Shawn Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:59:44 AM UTC-7, James Nicoll wrote:
>
>
>>>> I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
>>>>
>>>> I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers
>>>> on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.
>
>
>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly without
>> the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could very well be a
>> Far Trader.
>
>
> Sounds cool.  Sadly, not available to me.  I mean, it's RIGHT THERE in the library system... as an ebook I can't access because that involves installing software, which you can't on library computers.

I'm pretty sure that's not true.  At least in my library system there 
are several ebook services that all have one thing in common.  Once you 
register with them you can read them in browser.

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#424334

On 2015-10-08, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <d7m8h4F1cmcU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Ted Nolan <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>>In article <95a514ac-0665-4a7d-91cc-d7de8328c374@googlegroups.com>,
>>Shawn Wilson  <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
>>>
>>>I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers
>>>on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.
>>>
>>
>>Hmm, _Balance Of Trade_ by Lee & Miller perhaps.
>>	
>>In some ways a later Heinlein Juvenile with echos of Norton's Solar Queen.
>
> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly without
> the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could very well be a 
> Far Trader.

Seconded. Also notable for being a complete story in one book.

A little more Heinlein juvenile -- the Solar Clipper series by Nathan
Lowell. Covers the career of a space merchant crewman; notable for 
violence-avoidance and no war in foreground or background.

-dsr-

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#424336

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:08:06 AM UTC-7, -dsr- wrote:


> A little more Heinlein juvenile -- the Solar Clipper series by Nathan
> Lowell. Covers the career of a space merchant crewman; notable for 
> violence-avoidance and no war in foreground or background.


Acquired, at least Quarter, Half, Full and Double.  

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#424358

In article <mv60ct$jn5$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) said:

> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly
> without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could
> very well be a Far Trader.

That Whedon was playing a "roughly analogous to the post Civil War
U.S." game doesn't mean, to me, that the correspondence has to be
one-to-one enough to assume that the Browncoats' cause had included
slavery or other atrocities.

In fewer words: I'm not creeped by it.

-- wds

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#424395

William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <mv60ct$jn5$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) said:
>
>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly
>> without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could
>> very well be a Far Trader.
>
> That Whedon was playing a "roughly analogous to the post Civil War
> U.S." game doesn't mean, to me, that the correspondence has to be
> one-to-one enough to assume that the Browncoats' cause had included
> slavery or other atrocities.
>
> In fewer words: I'm not creeped by it.

Joss Whedon emphatically states that the Browncoat's cause did not
include slavery. In _Serenity - The Official Visual Companion_ Whedon
says:

        The basic tenet was that [Firefly] was [analogous to the
    post-United States Civil War] Reconstruction era. Mal had
    fought for the South - not for slavery, I can't stress that
    enough [laughs], but for [the losing side].

Mal's first mate Zoe Washburne is swarthy. She's also a veteran
Browncoat.

On a different note, Mal wears a woman's bonnet and dress to disguise
himself in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode. Even though Zoe, who sits
nearby in the back of Mal's covered wagon, *is* a woman.

(Perhaps only a Captain such as Mal is allowed to hold the reins? Back
in the day sudhaus rumor had it that Augie Gussie Busch was very
possessive of the reins of his Clydesdales.)

LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
from my lips.

--
 ,-.                              There was a young lady named Bright
 \_/                              Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)<   Don Kuenz KB7RPU            She set out one day
 / \                                 In a relative way
 `-'                              And returned on the previous night.

What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say.-JFK/Emerson

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#424417

In article <20151009a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <mv60ct$jn5$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>> jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) said:
>>
>>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly
>>> without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could
>>> very well be a Far Trader.
>>
>> That Whedon was playing a "roughly analogous to the post Civil War
>> U.S." game doesn't mean, to me, that the correspondence has to be
>> one-to-one enough to assume that the Browncoats' cause had included
>> slavery or other atrocities.
>>
>> In fewer words: I'm not creeped by it.
>
>Joss Whedon emphatically states that the Browncoat's cause did not
>include slavery. In _Serenity - The Official Visual Companion_ Whedon
>says:
>
>        The basic tenet was that [Firefly] was [analogous to the
>    post-United States Civil War] Reconstruction era. Mal had
>    fought for the South - not for slavery, I can't stress that
>    enough [laughs], but for [the losing side].
>
>Mal's first mate Zoe Washburne is swarthy. She's also a veteran
>Browncoat.
>
>On a different note, Mal wears a woman's bonnet and dress to disguise
>himself in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode. Even though Zoe, who sits
>nearby in the back of Mal's covered wagon, *is* a woman.
>
>(Perhaps only a Captain such as Mal is allowed to hold the reins? Back
>in the day sudhaus rumor had it that Augie Gussie Busch was very
>possessive of the reins of his Clydesdales.)
>
>LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
>Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
>from my lips.

The title creeps me out sufficiently, thanks.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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#424428

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 3:30:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <20151009a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:

> >LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
> >Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
> >from my lips.
> 
> The title creeps me out sufficiently, thanks.

My thoughts exactly.

pt

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#424472

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:35:13 -0700 (PDT), petertrei@gmail.com wrote:

>On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 3:30:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <20151009a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>> >LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
>> >Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
>> >from my lips.
>> 
>> The title creeps me out sufficiently, thanks.
>
>My thoughts exactly.

Huh.



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#424485

In article <ot3h1b576ds3mt96iu9ra6cgekcupsd5f9@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:

> petertrei@gmail.com wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
>>>> Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
>>>> from my lips.
>>>
>>> The title creeps me out sufficiently, thanks.
>>
>> My thoughts exactly.
>
> Huh.

I on the other hand had managed to go my whole life without ever
hearing about this.

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/scotland/dumfriesshire/legends/the-legend-of-sawney-bean.html

suggests that it was all made up a couple of centuries after the
alleged fact.

-- wds

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#424493

In article <mvauvd$197$1@panix3.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <ot3h1b576ds3mt96iu9ra6cgekcupsd5f9@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:
>
>> petertrei@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LWE wrote an essay for _finding Serenity_ named "The Heirs of Sawney
>>>>> Beane." It's a story that creeps out most everyone who hears about it
>>>>> from my lips.
>>>>
>>>> The title creeps me out sufficiently, thanks.
>>>
>>> My thoughts exactly.
>>
>> Huh.
>
>I on the other hand had managed to go my whole life without ever
>hearing about this.
>
>http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/scotland/dumfriesshire/legends/the-legend-of-sawney-bean.html
>
>suggests that it was all made up a couple of centuries after the
>alleged fact.

That may be.  Still creepy.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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