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Recommend Me a Good Book

Started byShawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com>
First post2015-10-07 18:44 -0700
Last post2015-10-09 18:43 +0000
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  Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 18:44 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan) - 2015-10-08 04:08 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-08 14:59 +0000
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-08 11:14 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 15:43 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-08 12:16 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 22:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:50 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-09 00:32 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-09 00:21 -0600
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2015-10-09 11:08 +0100
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-10-10 00:09 +0100
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:22 -0400
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 07:59 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-11 01:43 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 06:26 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-11 09:08 -0600
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:14 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-09 09:28 -0600
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:40 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:25 +0000
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 15:59 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:19 +0000
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 17:08 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 14:56 -0700
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:02 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 15:09 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:13 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 15:38 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 18:49 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-09 23:48 +0000
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 23:54 +0000
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 17:07 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:37 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-10 20:21 -0600
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 02:24 +0000
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 22:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-09 11:43 -0300
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-08 16:53 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 22:16 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:05 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-09 00:58 +0100
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 21:59 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-08 19:23 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 04:16 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:19 -0400
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:03 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book PeterM <petermeilinger@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 15:34 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-10-11 10:25 +0100
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-11 18:53 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-10 17:28 -0600
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-08 13:49 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:50 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 22:05 -0400
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-09 15:32 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:26 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 13:35 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:11 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:06 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 14:26 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-10 16:49 +0000
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 17:26 +0000
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 13:48 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 17:56 +0000
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 10:51 +0800
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-10-14 17:37 +1100
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 07:13 -0400
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:53 -0700
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-14 14:05 +0000
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-15 12:24 +0800
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-15 01:48 -0400
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-15 13:04 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 09:22 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-15 22:37 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 16:28 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 22:08 -0400
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 22:27 -0400
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-17 03:46 +0000
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book J. Moreno <planb@newsreaders.com> - 2015-10-17 05:58 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-18 07:13 -0700
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:47 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-15 12:01 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-15 15:15 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-10-15 16:16 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-15 18:01 -0700
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-15 21:54 -0600
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-10-16 07:32 +0100
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 13:35 -0400
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-16 14:57 +0800
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-10-16 21:03 +1100
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-16 13:22 +0000
                                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-16 09:28 -0700
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-16 16:58 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-16 13:45 -0700
                                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 14:54 -0700
                                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 15:03 -0700
                                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 13:39 -0400
                                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-16 10:47 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-15 16:08 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 19:08 -0400
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-18 02:41 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-16 14:56 +0800
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-16 16:32 -0400
                                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-16 22:11 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-10 13:54 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-10 19:13 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-11 01:43 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 05:54 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 13:37 -0600
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:45 +0000
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 14:19 -0600
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:52 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:52 -0400
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 14:22 -0600
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 20:53 +0000
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 15:11 -0600
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 14:55 -0700
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 16:14 -0600
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:57 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-10-10 00:09 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:09 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-10 12:40 -0600
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-11 15:23 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-11 12:06 -0500
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 20:27 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 01:53 +0000
                                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-13 09:56 -0600
                                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 17:02 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-10 00:44 +0000
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:46 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 05:56 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-10-09 16:53 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:44 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 22:36 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-08 02:01 -0600
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-08 05:01 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 08:33 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-08 21:13 -0700
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 10:30 -0400
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 15:10 +0000
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-09 09:28 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:33 +0000
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 13:39 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 22:06 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-10 11:09 +0800
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-10 08:15 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-10-10 16:26 +0100
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 11:02 +0800
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-10 21:41 -0600
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 10:54 +0800
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 05:35 -0400
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 05:36 -0400
                                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-15 14:34 +0800
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 13:10 +0000
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 08:47 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:49 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-08 14:51 -0600
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-08 15:04 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:23 -0400
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 10:59 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:39 +0000
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-08 01:56 -0500
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:52 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-10 02:12 -0500
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 05:55 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 08:49 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 11:06 -0700
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:55 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-10-08 13:42 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-10 11:14 +0800
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-10-10 18:31 +1100
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-10-14 11:03 +0800
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 05:41 -0700
        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 13:13 +0000
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 12:45 -0400
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 -0600
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 19:42 +0000
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 06:00 -0700
          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 06:04 -0700
            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 07:22 -0700
              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 05:58 -0700
                Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-13 10:03 -0400
                  Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 06:01 -0700
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 09:11 -0400
                    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-14 13:33 -0400
                      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 14:21 -0400
                        Re: Recommend Me a Good Book wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-14 22:00 -0400
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-14 22:08 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-10-15 03:20 +0000
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-15 04:30 -0700
                              Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-15 09:21 -0400
                            Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-15 09:40 -0700
                          Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-14 23:28 -0400
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-09 11:31 -0400
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:54 -0400
      Re: Recommend Me a Good Book djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 23:43 +0000
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-09 08:10 -0700
    Re: Recommend Me a Good Book mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) - 2015-10-09 18:43 +0000

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#424486

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-10-10 08:09 -0400
Message-ID<mvav5n$q0$1@panix3.panix.com>
In reply to#424471
In article <aq3h1bt4nhi3kbbf5pinnua5jle3ffeqgc@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:

> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
>> I believe that Whedon said that it goes both ways, with the
>> Alliance sort of analogous to the United States at the time (end
>> of the 20th century) -- it does a lot of stupid and sometimes
>> evil control-freak shit to other people/nations, sometimes
>> deliberately and sometimes just without even noticing who it's
>> stepping on, and at the exact same time it also does a lot of
>> good.  He didn't want black-hats and white-hats, just Browncoats
>> and, um, whatever the Alliance soldiers wore.
>
> I was going to say "blue gloves," but really, that was just the
> minions of evil, not the ordinary Alliance soldiers.

I can't remember: was it ever established that they were wearing
gloves, as opposed to literally having "hands of blue"?

I mean, yeah, it seems it'd be pretty dumb that they'd dye their
skin like that, and Whedon didn't do very much dumb, but you never
know.  (I don't, anyway.)

-- wds

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#424505

FromDavid Johnston <David@block.net>
Date2015-10-10 12:40 -0600
Message-ID<mvblvm$13q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#424486
On 10/10/2015 6:09 AM, William December Starr wrote:
> In article <aq3h1bt4nhi3kbbf5pinnua5jle3ffeqgc@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
> Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:
>
>> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that Whedon said that it goes both ways, with the
>>> Alliance sort of analogous to the United States at the time (end
>>> of the 20th century) -- it does a lot of stupid and sometimes
>>> evil control-freak shit to other people/nations, sometimes
>>> deliberately and sometimes just without even noticing who it's
>>> stepping on, and at the exact same time it also does a lot of
>>> good.  He didn't want black-hats and white-hats, just Browncoats
>>> and, um, whatever the Alliance soldiers wore.
>>
>> I was going to say "blue gloves," but really, that was just the
>> minions of evil, not the ordinary Alliance soldiers.
>
> I can't remember: was it ever established that they were wearing
> gloves, as opposed to literally having "hands of blue"?
>

Based on the comics (where they are destroyed by the protagonists), they 
were not wearing gloves.  The blue plastic covering extends to cover at 
least their entire torso.  Probably their entire body below the neck.

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#424567

FromDon Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Date2015-10-11 15:23 +0000
Message-ID<20150911b@crcomp.net>
In reply to#424505
David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote:
> On 10/10/2015 6:09 AM, William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <aq3h1bt4nhi3kbbf5pinnua5jle3ffeqgc@reader80.eternal-september.org
>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> said:
>>
>>> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe that Whedon said that it goes both ways, with the
>>>> Alliance sort of analogous to the United States at the time (end
>>>> of the 20th century) -- it does a lot of stupid and sometimes
>>>> evil control-freak shit to other people/nations, sometimes
>>>> deliberately and sometimes just without even noticing who it's
>>>> stepping on, and at the exact same time it also does a lot of
>>>> good.  He didn't want black-hats and white-hats, just Browncoats
>>>> and, um, whatever the Alliance soldiers wore.
>>>
>>> I was going to say "blue gloves," but really, that was just the
>>> minions of evil, not the ordinary Alliance soldiers.
>>
>> I can't remember: was it ever established that they were wearing
>> gloves, as opposed to literally having "hands of blue"?
>>
>
> Based on the comics (where they are destroyed by the protagonists), they
> were not wearing gloves.  The blue plastic covering extends to cover at
> least their entire torso.  Probably their entire body below the neck.

The backstory of "two by two, hands of blue" marginally intrigues me.
Perhaps Whedon simply notes the enhanced chemical resistance of nitrile
gloves and then puts them on his villains as a visual hand armor
advantage. End of story.

The Dark Horse shows protrusions in the blue undergarment that suggest
metallic matter. Some speculate that the "hands of blue" belong to
cyborgs. And that's why they remain untouched by a hand-held ?proximity?
weapon that kills all of the people close-by.

--
 ,-.                              There was a young lady named Bright
 \_/                              Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)<   Don Kuenz                   She set out one day
 / \                                 In a relative way
 `-'                              And returned on the previous night.

What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.

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#424572

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2015-10-11 12:06 -0500
Message-ID<C6CdnZ7R07hnC4fLnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#424567
On 2015-10-11, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:

Lady, if a man / tries to bother you, you can

> The backstory of "two by two, hands of blue" marginally intrigues me.

six, eight / jade plate!

Dave, mashups r us
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#424573

Fromdjheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date2015-10-11 20:27 +0000
Message-ID<nw2ou5.1s86@kithrup.com>
In reply to#424567
In article <20150911b@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>The backstory of "two by two, hands of blue" marginally intrigues me.
>Perhaps Whedon simply notes the enhanced chemical resistance of nitrile
>gloves and then puts them on his villains as a visual hand armor
>advantage. End of story.

Could Whedon possibly been building on a half-remembered memory
of Cordwainer Smith's "Think Blue, Count Two"?  
>

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#426265

FromDon Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Date2015-11-13 01:53 +0000
Message-ID<20151112b@crcomp.net>
In reply to#424567
Dorothy wrote:
>In article <20150911b@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>>The backstory of "two by two, hands of blue" marginally intrigues me.
>>Perhaps Whedon simply notes the enhanced chemical resistance of nitrile
>>gloves and then puts them on his villains as a visual hand armor
>>advantage. End of story.
>
>Could Whedon possibly been building on a half-remembered memory
>of Cordwainer Smith's "Think Blue, Count Two"?

Thank you for a memorable short story. It's my first Smith. :)

Smith's story contains lots of parallels to Whedon's. The invented new
crimes of *Old Twenty-two* - "crimes which a million years of earth's
old wickedness had never brought to the surface of man before," aptly
fits the behavior of Whedon's Reavers. The ugliness of Reavers surpasses
that of Talatashar.

Whedon actually freezes his heroine River and puts her into a pod. He
has River's brother use a trigger word to make her pass out when she
starts acting out.

But River's "two by two, hands of blue" vastly differs from Veesey's
"conjuring spell" of "Think Blue, Count Two." In River's case it's more
of a dreadful foreboding.

--
 ,-.                              There was a young lady named Bright
 \_/                              Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)<   Don Kuenz KB7RPU            She set out one day
 / \                                 In a relative way
 `-'                              And returned on the previous night.

What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say.-JFK/Emerson

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#426338

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2015-11-13 09:56 -0600
Message-ID<CrudnZjM16rfldvLnZ2dnUU7-L-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#426265
On 2015-11-13, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
> Dorothy wrote:
>>Could Whedon possibly been building on a half-remembered memory
>>of Cordwainer Smith's "Think Blue, Count Two"?
>
> Thank you for a memorable short story. It's my first Smith. :)

Woo hoo! You have much more wonderfulness of his to read, then!

Dave, please keep us apprised of your reactions so that we may chuckle
 indulgently
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#426345

FromDon Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Date2015-11-13 17:02 +0000
Message-ID<20151113c@crcomp.net>
In reply to#426338
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2015-11-13, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>> Dorothy wrote:
>>>Could Whedon possibly been building on a half-remembered memory
>>>of Cordwainer Smith's "Think Blue, Count Two"?
>> 
>> Thank you for a memorable short story. It's my first Smith. :)
>
> Woo hoo! You have much more wonderfulness of his to read, then!
>
> Dave, please keep us apprised of your reactions so that we may chuckle
> indulgently

My first stab at Smith was many moons ago. At that time the sailing
imagery didn't make a lot of sense so the novel got dropped.

OTOH the short story's short enough to embolden me to just go ahead and
take the plunge into Smith's sailing imagery. Now it makes sense to me.

Next up are the stories suggested by Anthony Nance: "Mother Hitton's
Littul Kittens" and "Golden the Ship Was-Oh! Oh! Oh!." (Provided that
they're in my pulp collection.)

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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#424452

FromDon Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Date2015-10-10 00:44 +0000
Message-ID<20151009e@crcomp.net>
In reply to#424434
David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote:
> On 10/9/2015 2:53 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <mv97ic$m07$1@dont-email.me>,
>> David Johnston  <David@block.net> wrote:
>>> On 10/9/2015 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article <mv94ue$bfd$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> David Johnston  <David@block.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/9/2015 9:32 AM, Don Kuenz wrote:
>>>>>> William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <mv60ct$jn5$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>>>>>>> jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers: Firefly
>>>>>>>> without the creepy Lost Cause stuff, with aliens, on what could
>>>>>>>> very well be a Far Trader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That Whedon was playing a "roughly analogous to the post Civil War
>>>>>>> U.S." game doesn't mean, to me, that the correspondence has to be
>>>>>>> one-to-one enough to assume that the Browncoats' cause had included
>>>>>>> slavery or other atrocities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fewer words: I'm not creeped by it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joss Whedon emphatically states that the Browncoat's cause did not
>>>>>> include slavery. In _Serenity - The Official Visual Companion_ Whedon
>>>>>> says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            The basic tenet was that [Firefly] was [analogous to the
>>>>>>        post-United States Civil War] Reconstruction era. Mal had
>>>>>>        fought for the South - not for slavery, I can't stress that
>>>>>>        enough [laughs], but for [the losing side].
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a lot of ways the war in Firefly was "What if the American Civil War
>>>>> had been East versus West instead of North versus South."
>>>>
>>>> Hm.  I can see the West typified as cowpokes in SPAAAAACE; how are their
>>>> enemies particularly Eastern?
>>>>
>>>
>>> In any case the Core consist of the part of the 'Verse that was
>>> colonized first and is most developed and dominate the legislature
>>> through numbers and wealth.
>>
>> Well, okay.  The Establishment.
>>
>> Does the series ever go into why there was a civil war in the
>> first place (yes, I already know it wasn't slavery)?
>>
>
> Not for specifically.  But it was before the war that they attempted to
> secretly keep an entire colony under mood altering chemicals to make the
> colonists docile and while that was over the line even by Alliance
> standards, all the indications are the the Alliance government are big
> control freaks with little respect for civil liberties even though they
> are a multi-party republic.

_Serenity_ the movie says this about that:

    GIRL #1
    Now that the war's over, our soldiers get to come home, yes?

    TEACHER
    Some of them. Some will be stationed on the rim planets as Peace
    Enforcers.

    BOY #1
    I don't understand. Why ere the Independents even fighting us?
    Why wouldn't they look to be more civilized?

    TEACHER
    That's a good question. Does anybody want to open on that?

    ...
    [classroom argument over cannibals known as Reavers deleted by me]
    ...

    TEACHER
    (Chinese)
    BAI-tuo, AN-jing-eedyen!
    [English: We will enjoy your silence now!]
    (continued; calmer)
    It's true that there are... dangers on the outer planets. So let's
    follow up on Borodin's question. With all the social and medical
    advancements we can bring to the independents, why would they
    fight so hard against us?

    RIVER
    We meddle.

    TEACHER
    River?
    (Chinese)
    Shuh-MUH?
    [English: I'm sorry?]

    RIVER is a dark, intense little girl, writing with one hand and
    "typing" with the other. (Typing consists of holding a long wooden
    stylus and tapping either end down different columns of chinese
    characters on her desktop screen.) She is a good two years younger
    than the other kids.

    RIVER
    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do,
    what to think, don't run don't walk we're in their homes and in
    their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.

--
 ,-.                              There was a young lady named Bright
 \_/                              Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)<   Don Kuenz KB7RPU            She set out one day
 / \                                 In a relative way
 `-'                              And returned on the previous night.

What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say.-JFK/Emerson

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#424462

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-10-09 21:46 -0400
Message-ID<mv9qmd$cua$1@panix3.panix.com>
In reply to#424395
In article <20151009a@crcomp.net>,
Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> said:

> On a different note, Mal wears a woman's bonnet and dress to
> disguise himself in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode. Even though
> Zoe, who sits nearby in the back of Mal's covered wagon, *is* a
> woman.
>
> (Perhaps only a Captain such as Mal is allowed to hold the reins?
> Back in the day sudhaus rumor had it that Augie Gussie Busch was
> very possessive of the reins of his Clydesdales.)

I'd assumed that that was just tactical -- Mal putting his
differently-talented (and armed) people in the optimal locations
for the most-likely-scenario firefight should it develop.

-- wds

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#424593

FromRobert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>
Date2015-10-12 05:56 -0700
Message-ID<d3ff56bd-8547-4bda-87c2-1838ac81e869@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424462
On Saturday, 10 October 2015 02:46:55 UTC+1, William December Starr  wrote:
> In article <20151009a@crcomp.net>,
> Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> said:
> 
> > On a different note, Mal wears a woman's bonnet and dress to
> > disguise himself in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode. Even though
> > Zoe, who sits nearby in the back of Mal's covered wagon, *is* a
> > woman.
> >
> > (Perhaps only a Captain such as Mal is allowed to hold the reins?
> > Back in the day sudhaus rumor had it that Augie Gussie Busch was
> > very possessive of the reins of his Clydesdales.)
> 
> I'd assumed that that was just tactical -- Mal putting his
> differently-talented (and armed) people in the optimal locations
> for the most-likely-scenario firefight should it develop.

But did we rule out "funny"?

Or for that matter "any excuse"?

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#424404

Fromjdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
Date2015-10-09 16:53 +0000
Message-ID<mv8re3$d4f$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#424314
In article <mv60ct$jn5$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

snip
>
>Norton's Solar Queen. Although they're worse at delivering stuff successfully
>than most Traveller traders.

The Solar Queen series has a recurring detail Traveller GM should steal.
Those situations where there's an insanely profitable trade route the players
use to pay off their morgage in six months? Either those are locked up by
the Big Guys or the Big Guys will take a keen interest in persuading players
to voluntarily sign over the rights in exchange for their brother in law the
Duke of Regina not having them thrown onto the Prison Planet for sedition. 
 
-- 
My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
My Livejournal at http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_nicoll
http://www.cafepress.com/jdnicoll (For all your "The problem with
defending the English language [...]" T-shirt, cup and tote-bag needs)

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#424327

FromShawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-08 10:44 -0700
Message-ID<0e945ea7-cbdf-4603-8ff8-4858673bb642@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424287
On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:08:13 PM UTC-7, Ted Nolan wrote:


> >
> >I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers
> >on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.
> >
> 
> Hmm, _Balance Of Trade_ by Lee & Miller perhaps.
> 	
> In some ways a later Heinlein Juvenile with echos of Norton's Solar Queen.


OK, I already have (but haven't read) those.  Good.

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#424291

FromButch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-07 22:36 -0700
Message-ID<9946f408-1ed4-4782-9b31-e9c7310436fc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424281
On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 8:44:14 PM UTC-5, Shawn Wilson wrote:
> I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
> 
> I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.

If you will settle for a big truck instead of a small starship, and don't
mind the absence of rocket-propelled grenades (or whatever RPG means),
I recommend John DeChancie's "Skyway Series": Starrigger, Paradox Alley,
and Red Limit Freeway.

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#424298

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2015-10-08 02:01 -0600
Message-ID<d7mm5vF4l4jU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#424291
Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 8:44:14 PM UTC-5, Shawn Wilson wrote:
>> I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
>> 
>> I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.
>
>If you will settle for a big truck instead of a small starship, and don't
>mind the absence of rocket-propelled grenades (or whatever RPG means),

"Role Playing Game" ... in his case a game named "Traveller".

>I recommend John DeChancie's "Skyway Series": Starrigger, Paradox Alley,
>and Red Limit Freeway.

-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#424302

FromKevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
Date2015-10-08 05:01 -0700
Message-ID<5b49b410-a2af-4a19-aef6-e71155040600@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424298
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 4:01:06 AM UTC-4, Greg Goss wrote:
> Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 8:44:14 PM UTC-5, Shawn Wilson wrote:
> >> I want Heinlein/Piper-esque adventure.
> >> 
> >> I am fond of the RPG Traveller, whose primary MO is band of adventurers on a small starship- trader or scout, ala Serenity/Firefly.
> >
> >If you will settle for a big truck instead of a small starship, and don't
> >mind the absence of rocket-propelled grenades (or whatever RPG means),
> 
> "Role Playing Game" ... in his case a game named "Traveller".
> 
> >I recommend John DeChancie's "Skyway Series": Starrigger, Paradox Alley,
> >and Red Limit Freeway.
> 

As a non-gamer, I usually read RPG and think "rocket propelled grenade."

I imagine there is some crossover.

Kevin R

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#424305

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-10-08 08:33 -0400
Message-ID<mv5nqt$res$1@panix3.panix.com>
In reply to#424302
In article <5b49b410-a2af-4a19-aef6-e71155040600@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> said:

> Greg Goss wrote:
>> Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you will settle for a big truck instead of a small starship,
>>> and don't mind the absence of rocket-propelled grenades (or
>>> whatever RPG means),
>> 
>> "Role Playing Game" ... in his case a game named "Traveller".
>
> As a non-gamer, I usually read RPG and think "rocket propelled
> grenade."
>
> I imagine there is some crossover.

Probably quite a lot.  By the way, those are the top two listings at
https://www.acronymfinder.com/RPG.html.  Also in the Top Ten is
"Rounds Per Gun," which I imagine may also show up in present-day or
futuristic games.  (Also, "Repeating Plasma Gun" if the game is Star
Wars-based.) 

Rebounds Per Game is, I think, somewhat less likely to occur.

--wds  (and let's not even get into the Rape Prevention Glasses)

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#424364

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-10-08 21:13 -0700
Message-ID<vkfe1b1504cifc1g34gqgh0shvbb0sujr4@4ax.com>
In reply to#424305
On 8 Oct 2015 08:33:33 -0400, wdstarr@panix.com (William December
Starr) wrote:

[snip]

>Rebounds Per Game is, I think, somewhat less likely to occur.

     I suppose it depends how hard you throw your dice.

>--wds  (and let's not even get into the Rape Prevention Glasses)

     I have to ask.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#424386

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-10-09 10:30 -0400
Message-ID<mv8j30$ker$1@panix3.panix.com>
In reply to#424364
In article <vkfe1b1504cifc1g34gqgh0shvbb0sujr4@4ax.com>,
Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> said:

> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
>> --wds (and let's not even get into the Rape Prevention Glasses)
>
> I have to ask.

See:

http://archive.armytimes.com/article/20120120/NEWS/201200321/Military-dumps-infamous-8216-BCG-eyeglasses

("Birth Control Glasses" -- same object, alternate name.)

-- wds

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#424390

Fromdjheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date2015-10-09 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<nvyKsq.13p@kithrup.com>
In reply to#424386
In article <mv8j30$ker$1@panix3.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <vkfe1b1504cifc1g34gqgh0shvbb0sujr4@4ax.com>,
>Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> said:
>
>> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>
>>> --wds (and let's not even get into the Rape Prevention Glasses)
>>
>> I have to ask.
>
>See:
>
>http://archive.armytimes.com/article/20120120/NEWS/201200321/Military-dumps-infamous-8216-BCG-eyeglasses
>
>("Birth Control Glasses" -- same object, alternate name.)

Hmph.  They're not so bad-looking, relaly.  Verizon used to have
a guy wearing them on posters touting their product, as if to
say, "We are nerdy engineers, we understand electronics."  I
always thought that guy was rather cute.  But then I've been
married to an engineer for, hmm, coming up on 45 years.


-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

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