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| Started by | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-23 09:42 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-09-03 16:55 -0700 |
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Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 14:54 +0100
Re: Badass flowers djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-23 15:44 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:27 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Bill Dugan <wkdugan@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 10:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-23 12:55 -0600
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:48 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 12:57 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:02 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 22:30 -0500
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-24 03:43 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 06:59 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:41 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-25 11:18 +0800
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:00 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 15:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 19:19 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 19:29 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 17:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 15:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 13:00 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-25 11:20 +0800
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 18:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:37 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:44 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 18:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:31 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:11 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-26 16:59 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-24 18:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:33 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-25 06:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-25 06:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-26 11:53 +0800
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-26 18:44 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-26 12:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-27 10:34 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-25 07:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-25 19:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:26 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 15:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:51 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 06:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:46 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-08-23 13:37 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-23 21:00 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:28 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:23 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:34 -0500
Re: Badass flowers lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 08:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-24 16:04 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:05 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:09 -0600
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-23 17:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 13:01 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:44 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:03 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-23 10:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 12:55 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-23 14:33 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:04 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-25 16:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers patmpowers@gmail.com - 2015-08-23 12:14 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-23 16:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-24 13:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-24 13:57 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 13:11 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:33 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-24 10:16 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-24 01:29 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 01:04 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-08-24 17:56 +1000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 17:56 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-25 15:28 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 18:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-25 21:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-26 04:24 +0000
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-26 06:12 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-26 06:44 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-26 08:58 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 15:38 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 06:20 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-26 12:54 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 17:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-26 18:19 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 22:59 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-26 19:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-27 14:20 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-27 17:28 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 16:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:07 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-28 06:20 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-28 04:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-28 15:32 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 10:35 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 03:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-28 06:47 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-28 17:23 -0700
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-28 06:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:33 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:01 +0000
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-31 05:07 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:50 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 19:21 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 19:45 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-04 02:56 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 22:52 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-27 02:53 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 08:06 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-27 20:10 -0600
Re: Badass flowers "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-26 22:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 01:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:54 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 06:08 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-09-02 11:19 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 21:35 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 01:12 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-02 06:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 11:04 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 11:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 02:56 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 19:25 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-09-03 11:27 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 13:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 17:41 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 04:09 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:43 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-01 07:38 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-01 08:08 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 14:14 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-08-31 14:55 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 17:17 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:56 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-03 15:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-08-31 14:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 16:58 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 17:09 -0700
Re: Badass flowers lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 18:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 19:26 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-30 20:12 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 04:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 17:20 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-02 17:35 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-31 22:38 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 05:11 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 14:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-09-02 05:18 +0000
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 02:44 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-30 21:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 19:25 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 03:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 11:11 +0200
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-26 09:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-26 15:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:37 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-26 14:59 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-26 03:25 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:31 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:09 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:02 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:59 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 03:14 -0600
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-24 12:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-24 18:50 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 22:06 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 22:27 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-24 19:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-26 18:47 +0000
Re: Badass flowers JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:34 +0000
Re: Badass flowers JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-09-03 16:55 -0700
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 17:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3044c5c3191d970d989adf@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #420949 |
In article <87fv39ktks.fsf@howitt.home>, sjharker@netspace.net.au says... > > "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> writes: > > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:29:14 +0000 (UTC), Don Kuenz > > <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote in<news:20150823c@crcomp.net> in > > rec.arts.sf.written: > > > > [...] > > > >> As to your question, it seems that nobody mentioned the > >> flora of Pyrrus [1] yet. > > > > Mentioned by Robert Carnegie eight hours before you. > > One I haven't seen mentioned is most of the vegetation in _Hothouse_ by > Brian Aldiss. Likely it has been mentioned and I missed it. I think it has--but anything by Aldiss is probably worth rementioning.
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| From | Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 15:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20150825a@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #420942 |
Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:29:14 +0000 (UTC), Don Kuenz
> <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote in<news:20150823c@crcomp.net> in
> rec.arts.sf.written:
>
> [...]
>
>> As to your question, it seems that nobody mentioned the
>> flora of Pyrrus [1] yet.
>
> Mentioned by Robert Carnegie eight hours before you.
Sure enough. (There's also the group's Pyrrus parlance zeitgeist. :) )
Did anyone mention the deadly flora from _Minority Report_, the movie?
The venomous vine of anger only appears in the Hollywood treatment, not
the novel.
GARDENS
Wild and out of control. A small ivy-covered STONE HOUSE is
nestled into a corner of the property. Smoke rises from the
chimney. Anderton starts down the other side of the wall.
EXT. THE GARDENS - DAY
As Anderton jumps to the ground. His shirt is ripped; his
arms scratched from what he realizes are THORNS embedded in
the vines.
We hear RUSTLING as, behind Anderton, several of the plants
unfurl to their full dimensions of eight feet and wrap their
vines around Anderton's neck and torso.
He breaks free. We hear CLASSICAL MUSIC O.S. and Anderton
moves through the gardens towards it. He stops, dizzy,
touches his forehead and then looks off at...
A GREENHOUSE
Where we see A WOMAN, 50, dressed in a wide-brimmed hat and
gardening attire, attending to the plants, gently spraying,
then wiping each leaf with a small, square cloth...
Anderton staggers into the greenhouse, something now quite
wrong with him.
ANDERTON
Dr. Hineman --
Quick as a flash she holds up her cane and a six-inch BLADE
extends from the tip to Anderton's throat. She looks down
the length of it at Anderton, his ripped clothing, bruised
face, and scratched arms.
IRIS
You're trespassing.
He starts to sway, touches his forehead.
IRIS
Something wrong?
ANDERTON
I'm a little dizzy...
She casually leans on the cane, shoving the blade back up inside.
IRIS
Yes, I'm afraid that would be from the Doll's Eye.
ANDERTON
The what?
IRIS
The vine -- the Baneberry that scratched you during
your illegal climb over my wall...
She leads Anderton over to a wooden table just inside the
greenhouse where she's got AFTERNOON TEA set up.
IRIS
It's not a true Doll's Eye, of course, but a little
hybrid of my own design.
Anderton staggers, grabs hold of the table for support.
IRIS
It's quite something, once the poison gets into your
bloodstream, you'll start to see what I can only
describe as the most extraordinary display of blue
objects.
Anderton struggles. She watches him a moment.
IRIS
This just isn't your week, is it, Chief?
He pulls his gun. She shakes her head...
IRIS
Now now...
She easily takes it away from him, jacks the clip onto the table,
then calmly pours a cup of tea.
IRIS
You have three minutes to tell me what you're doing
here before I feed you to a few of my more predacious
plants.
--
,-. There was a young lady named Bright
\_/ Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)< Don Kuenz KB7RPU She set out one day
/ \ In a relative way
`-' And returned on the previous night.
What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 19:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mrive6$3fo$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #421071 |
In article <20150825a@crcomp.net>,
Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> said:
> Did anyone mention the deadly flora from _Minority
> Report_, the movie? The venomous vine of anger only
> appears in the Hollywood treatment, not the novel.
>
> GARDENS
>
> Wild and out of control. A small ivy-covered STONE HOUSE is
> nestled into a corner of the property. Smoke rises from the
> chimney. Anderton starts down the other side of the wall.
>
> EXT. THE GARDENS - DAY
>
> As Anderton jumps to the ground. His shirt is ripped; his
> arms scratched from what he realizes are THORNS embedded in
> the vines.
>
> We hear RUSTLING as, behind Anderton, several of the plants
> unfurl to their full dimensions of eight feet and wrap their
> vines around Anderton's neck and torso.
>
> He breaks free. We hear CLASSICAL MUSIC O.S. and Anderton
> moves through the gardens towards it. He stops, dizzy,
> touches his forehead and then looks off at...
etc.
I don't remember that scene from the movie as it was released to
theaters, but I don't absolutely trust my non-memory on that.
(Also, the 1956 Philip K. Dick story "The Minority Report"
was a novelette[1], and I don't think there was any novelization
of the movie.)
-----------
*1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo
awards rules said:
Novel: 40,000 words or more
Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words
Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words
Short story: less than 7,500 words
I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer
the name of its category.
-- wds
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| From | Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 18:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3b55a548-d497-4bfc-9aad-6c59b120b4c9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421100 |
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: > ----------- > *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo > awards rules said: > > Novel: 40,000 words or more > Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words > Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words > Short story: less than 7,500 words > > I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer > the name of its category. Too bad they don't have one for best short short story.
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 21:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421110 |
On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: > On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: > > ----------- > > *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo > > awards rules said: > > > > Novel: 40,000 words or more > > Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words > > Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words > > Short story: less than 7,500 words > > > > I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer > > the name of its category. > > Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"?
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 04:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d44tb6FkfdrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421121 |
In article <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com>, Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: >> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: >> > ----------- >> > *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo >> > awards rules said: >> > >> > Novel: 40,000 words or more >> > Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words >> > Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words >> > Short story: less than 7,500 words >> > >> > I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer >> > the name of its category. >> >> Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. > >But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. >Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. >And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"? Hmm. "Micro Hugo" would be a unit of measurement, no? If a Hugo Winning SF bestseller is a book that sells a million copies, then a micro hugo is the amount of SF goodness required to sell one copy.. -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | petertrei@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 06:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bfdca5e0-ae0a-4075-9f8b-57423c0e3598@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421122 |
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com>, > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > >On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: > >> > ----------- > >> > *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo > >> > awards rules said: > >> > > >> > Novel: 40,000 words or more > >> > Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words > >> > Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words > >> > Short story: less than 7,500 words > >> > > >> > I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer > >> > the name of its category. > >> > >> Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. > > > >But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. > >Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. > >And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"? > > Hmm. "Micro Hugo" would be a unit of measurement, no? > > If a Hugo Winning SF bestseller is a book that sells > a million copies, then a micro hugo is the amount of > SF goodness required to sell one copy.. Sort of like the millihelen - the measure of female pulchritude sufficient to launch a single ship. pt
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 06:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5c3dd09-a1b2-41e4-b6d2-5e8de6d90145@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421133 |
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:13:03 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > > In article <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com>, > > Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > > >On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: > > >> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: > > >> > ----------- > > >> > *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo > > >> > awards rules said: > > >> > > > >> > Novel: 40,000 words or more > > >> > Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words > > >> > Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words > > >> > Short story: less than 7,500 words > > >> > > > >> > I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer > > >> > the name of its category. > > >> > > >> Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. > > > > > >But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. > > >Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. > > >And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"? > > > > Hmm. "Micro Hugo" would be a unit of measurement, no? > > > > If a Hugo Winning SF bestseller is a book that sells > > a million copies, then a micro hugo is the amount of > > SF goodness required to sell one copy.. > > Sort of like the millihelen - the measure of female > pulchritude sufficient to launch a single ship. > > pt I remember that one. What's the official measurement of bad writing? The Ecordian? Kevin R
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 08:58 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d462g8Ftbd0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421135 |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:13:03 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote: >What's the official measurement of bad writing? The Ecordian? The Vancouver annual SF convention hands out "Elron" awards. Or at least used to when I lived there. The award was a gold-painted plastic lemon affixed to a spike through a Gor novel. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 15:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1106825777462295716.415387mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421135 |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:13:03 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>> In article <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com>, >>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo >>>>>> awards rules said: >>>>>> >>>>>> Novel: 40,000 words or more >>>>>> Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words >>>>>> Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words >>>>>> Short story: less than 7,500 words >>>>>> >>>>>> I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer >>>>>> the name of its category. >>>>> >>>>> Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. >>>> >>>> But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. >>>> Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. >>>> And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"? >>> >>> Hmm. "Micro Hugo" would be a unit of measurement, no? >>> >>> If a Hugo Winning SF bestseller is a book that sells >>> a million copies, then a micro hugo is the amount of >>> SF goodness required to sell one copy.. >> >> Sort of like the millihelen - the measure of female >> pulchritude sufficient to launch a single ship. >> >> pt > > I remember that one. > > What's the official measurement of bad writing? The Ecordian? > The Theis. Each word written in The Eye of Argon is 1 Theis. However no one knows how many Theis The Eye of Argon itself registers at, as despite its word count remaining constant (give or take the ending), no-one has ever been able to bring themselves to count them all. -- So much universe, and so little time. - Sir Terry Pratchett
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11b36e73-8ad1-448f-93ac-435f5e177ba5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421140 |
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:38:07 AM UTC-4, Mike M wrote: > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:13:03 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > >>> In article <b3a8e40e-a395-4e97-973a-a4b427687f3e@googlegroups.com>, > >>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20:02 UTC+1, Butch Malahide wrote: > >>>>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-5, William December Starr wrote: > >>>>>> ----------- > >>>>>> *1: The last time I looked, about four years ago, the Hugo > >>>>>> awards rules said: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Novel: 40,000 words or more > >>>>>> Novella: between 17,500 and 40,000 words > >>>>>> Novelette: between 7,500 and 17,500 words > >>>>>> Short story: less than 7,500 words > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I find it amusing that the shorter a story, the longer > >>>>>> the name of its category. > >>>>> > >>>>> Too bad they don't have one for best short short story. > >>>> > >>>> But you'd have to think of a longer way to say it. > >>>> Well, what you have might do, but "Micro Hugo" wouldn't. > >>>> And would that be "anterior" or "posterior"? > >>> > >>> Hmm. "Micro Hugo" would be a unit of measurement, no? > >>> > >>> If a Hugo Winning SF bestseller is a book that sells > >>> a million copies, then a micro hugo is the amount of > >>> SF goodness required to sell one copy.. > >> > >> Sort of like the millihelen - the measure of female > >> pulchritude sufficient to launch a single ship. > >> > >> pt > > > > I remember that one. > > > > What's the official measurement of bad writing? The Ecordian? > > > The Theis. Each word written in The Eye of Argon is 1 Theis. However no one > knows how many Theis The Eye of Argon itself registers at, as despite its > word count remaining constant (give or take the ending), no-one has ever > been able to bring themselves to count them all. I figured to name it after Grignr the Ecordian. we could use one name for SI, the other for US Customary Units. :) Theoretically, the entire mess rates as a MegaTheis? I found another contender. @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_McKittrick_Ros The footnotes have this link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1529100/Awful-author-addicted-to-alliteration-achieves-acclaim-again.html use http://preview.tinyurl.com/AmandaMcKRos or http://tinyurl.com/AmandaMcKRos and this quote from it: [quote] Her novels provided the entertainment at gatherings of the Inklings, a group of Oxford dons including Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien who met from the 1930s to 1950s. They competed to see who could read her work aloud for longest before starting to laugh. [/quote] Is this what inspired the Argon readings at cons? Kevin R
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-09-01 06:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a0753dc-7283-497a-8da2-31d2095ba78e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421150 |
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 10:27:30 AM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote: > I found another contender. @ > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_McKittrick_Ros > > The footnotes have this link: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1529100/Awful-author-addicted-to-alliteration-achieves-acclaim-again.html > > use http://preview.tinyurl.com/AmandaMcKRos > > or http://tinyurl.com/AmandaMcKRos > > and this quote from it: > > [quote] > > Her novels provided the entertainment at gatherings of the Inklings, a group of Oxford dons including Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien who met from the 1930s to 1950s. They competed to see who could read her work aloud for longest before starting to laugh. > > [/quote] > > Is this what inspired the Argon readings at cons? Having looked up more information about her, I see her last novel, Helen Huddleston, was only published posthumously in 1969. Hence, we can leave it out as a possible source of inspiration for the game Cluedo, later sold under license in the U.S. as "Clue" by Parker Brothers. John Savard
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| From | "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 12:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1neshv80tqlrj.eibstakic32w$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #421140 |
On 26 Aug 2015 15:38:03 GMT, Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote in<news:1106825777462295716.415387mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net> in rec.arts.sf.written: > Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: [...] >> What's the official measurement of bad writing? The >> Ecordian? > The Theis. Each word written in The Eye of Argon is 1 > Theis. However no one knows how many Theis The Eye of > Argon itself registers at, as despite its word count > remaining constant (give or take the ending), no-one has > ever been able to bring themselves to count them all. Unfair to Theis. Yes, he swallowed a thesaurus instead of learning how to use it, but there actually is a story there. Brian -- It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their holes to root for sandtatties. The waves whispered rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss, haggisss.
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| From | Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 17:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2122021176462301606.848158mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421154 |
"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote: > On 26 Aug 2015 15:38:03 GMT, Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> > wrote > in<news:1106825777462295716.415387mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net> > in rec.arts.sf.written: > >> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote: > > [...] > >>> What's the official measurement of bad writing? The >>> Ecordian? > >> The Theis. Each word written in The Eye of Argon is 1 >> Theis. However no one knows how many Theis The Eye of >> Argon itself registers at, as despite its word count >> remaining constant (give or take the ending), no-one has >> ever been able to bring themselves to count them all. > > Unfair to Theis. Yes, he swallowed a thesaurus instead of > learning how to use it, but there actually is a story > there. The request was for a unit of bad writing, not bad plotting. There are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance the unit of "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit of "indigestible infodump" is the Clancy ... -- So much universe, and so little time. - Sir Terry Pratchett
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 18:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mrle0l$j9l$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #421156 |
In article <2122021176462301606.848158mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net>, Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: > The request was for a unit of bad writing, not bad plotting. There > are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance the unit of > "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit of "indigestible > infodump" is the Clancy ... Disagree with that last one. Clancy had some bad problems once he got too big to edit, but I never found that to be one of them. -- wds
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 16:46 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d46tulF5omaU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421168 |
wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: >In article <2122021176462301606.848158mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net>, >Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: > >> The request was for a unit of bad writing, not bad plotting. There >> are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance the unit of >> "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit of "indigestible >> infodump" is the Clancy ... > >Disagree with that last one. Clancy had some bad problems once he >got too big to edit, but I never found that to be one of them. It's too bad we've already got a metric unit called a Weber. -- I used to own a mind like a steel trap. Perhaps if I'd specified a brass one, it wouldn't have rusted like this.
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| From | Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 22:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1931086904462322510.584227mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421170 |
Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote: > wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > >> In article <2122021176462301606.848158mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net>, >> Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: >> >>> The request was for a unit of bad writing, not bad plotting. There >>> are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance the unit of >>> "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit of "indigestible >>> infodump" is the Clancy ... >> >> Disagree with that last one. Clancy had some bad problems once he >> got too big to edit, but I never found that to be one of them. > > It's too bad we've already got a metric unit called a Weber. Heh. The infodumps there don't bother me as much as the interlocking series. I find the little OCD demon in my head wanting to deconstruct the last eight or so Honorverse books and put the scenes back together in as close to chronological order as possible ... Which would also mean losing at least 10,000 words of repeated chapters ... -- So much universe, and so little time. - Sir Terry Pratchett
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| From | "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 19:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7p9rb0p943ht.11wwium9anr7j.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #421170 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:46:43 -0600, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in<news:d46tulF5omaU3@mid.individual.net> in rec.arts.sf.written: > wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: >> In article <2122021176462301606.848158mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net>, >> Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: [...] >>> There are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance >>> the unit of "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit >>> of "indigestible infodump" is the Clancy ... >> Disagree with that last one. Clancy had some bad >> problems once he got too big to edit, but I never found >> that to be one of them. > It's too bad we've already got a metric unit called a > Weber. I’m not at all sure that I’ve ever encountered an indigestible infodump. Longer than necessary, yes; clumsy, yes; but not indigestible. Brian -- It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their holes to root for sandtatties. The waves whispered rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss, haggisss.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 14:20 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d499paFnp8jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421174 |
"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote: >On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:46:43 -0600, Greg Goss >>> Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: >>>> There are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance >>>> the unit of "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit >>>> of "indigestible infodump" is the Clancy ... > >> It's too bad we've already got a metric unit called a >> Weber. > >I’m not at all sure that I’ve ever encountered an >indigestible infodump. Longer than necessary, yes; clumsy, >yes; but not indigestible. I've got an ironclad info-stomach. But I sometimes have to flip back several pages to rejoin the conversation together. Someone walks into the room; says something. Focus character muses, turns into a four page info dump. Focus character answers the person who walked in, and I have no idea anymore what the conversation was. Weber does this all the time. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 17:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110vta97pclp71gv1spd593vvgsed0cp0j@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #421248 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:20:57 -0600, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote: >"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote: >>On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:46:43 -0600, Greg Goss >>>> Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> said: > >>>>> There are many dimensions to bad writing, for instance >>>>> the unit of "plodding prose" is the DanBrown, the unit >>>>> of "indigestible infodump" is the Clancy ... >> >>> It's too bad we've already got a metric unit called a >>> Weber. >> >>I’m not at all sure that I’ve ever encountered an >>indigestible infodump. Longer than necessary, yes; clumsy, >>yes; but not indigestible. > >I've got an ironclad info-stomach. But I sometimes have to flip back >several pages to rejoin the conversation together. > >Someone walks into the room; says something. >Focus character muses, turns into a four page info dump. >Focus character answers the person who walked in, and I have no idea >anymore what the conversation was. > >Weber does this all the time. This is not a new thing. The Bhagavad Gita makes Weber look like a beginner; virtually the entire book is an infodump of philosophy being explained to Arjuna by Krishna on the eve of battle. When I first read it, I assumed that eventually we'd see the battle. We don't. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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