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| Started by | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-23 09:42 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-09-03 16:55 -0700 |
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Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 14:54 +0100
Re: Badass flowers djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-23 15:44 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:27 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Bill Dugan <wkdugan@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 10:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-23 12:55 -0600
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:48 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 12:57 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:02 -0400
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 22:30 -0500
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-24 03:43 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 06:59 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:41 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-25 11:18 +0800
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:00 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 15:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 19:19 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 19:29 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 17:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 15:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 13:00 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-25 11:20 +0800
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 18:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:37 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:44 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 18:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:31 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:11 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-26 16:59 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-24 18:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:33 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-25 06:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-25 06:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-26 11:53 +0800
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-26 18:44 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-26 12:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-27 10:34 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-25 07:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-25 19:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:26 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 15:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 18:51 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 06:43 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:46 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-08-23 13:37 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-23 21:00 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:28 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:23 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 18:34 -0500
Re: Badass flowers lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 08:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-24 16:04 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:05 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:09 -0600
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-23 17:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 13:01 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:44 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:03 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-23 10:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-23 12:55 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-23 14:33 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 15:04 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-25 16:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers patmpowers@gmail.com - 2015-08-23 12:14 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-23 16:24 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-24 13:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-24 13:57 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 13:11 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:33 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-24 10:16 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-24 01:29 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 01:04 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-08-24 17:56 +1000
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 17:56 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-25 15:28 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 18:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-25 21:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-26 04:24 +0000
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-26 06:12 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-26 06:44 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-26 08:58 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 15:38 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 06:20 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-26 12:54 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 17:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-26 18:19 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 22:59 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-26 19:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-27 14:20 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-27 17:28 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 16:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:17 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:07 -0700
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-28 06:20 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-28 04:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-28 15:32 +0000
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 10:35 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 03:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-28 06:47 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-28 17:23 -0700
Re: Badass flowers petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-28 06:19 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:33 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:01 +0000
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-31 05:07 -0500
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:50 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 19:21 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 19:45 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-04 02:56 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-26 22:52 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-27 02:53 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 08:06 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-27 20:10 -0600
Re: Badass flowers "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-26 22:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 01:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:42 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:54 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 06:08 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-09-02 11:19 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 21:35 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 01:12 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-02 06:53 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 11:04 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 11:39 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 02:56 -0700
Re: Badass flowers David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 19:25 -0500
Re: Badass flowers Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-09-03 11:27 +0800
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 13:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 17:41 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 04:09 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:43 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-01 07:38 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-01 08:08 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 14:14 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-08-31 14:55 -0700
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 17:17 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:56 +0000
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-03 15:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-08-31 14:46 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 16:58 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 17:09 -0700
Re: Badass flowers lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 18:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 19:26 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-30 20:12 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 04:10 -0700
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 17:20 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-02 17:35 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-31 22:38 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 05:11 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 14:07 -0400
Re: Badass flowers goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-09-02 05:18 +0000
Re: Badass flowers William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 02:44 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-30 21:18 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 19:25 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 03:25 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 11:11 +0200
Re: Badass flowers Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-26 09:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-26 15:01 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:37 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-26 14:59 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-26 03:25 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:31 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:09 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:02 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:59 -0600
Re: Badass flowers Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 03:14 -0600
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-24 12:11 +0000
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-24 18:50 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 22:06 -0400
Re: Badass flowers wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 22:27 -0400
Re: Badass flowers "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Badass flowers Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:42 -0700
Re: Badass flowers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-24 19:01 -0700
Re: Badass flowers nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-26 18:47 +0000
Re: Badass flowers JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0700
Re: Badass flowers "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-03 01:34 +0000
Re: Badass flowers JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-09-03 16:55 -0700
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 12:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55de16f8$0$1644$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #421157 |
On 8/26/2015 11:44 AM, Anthony Nance wrote: > Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote: >> On 25/08/2015 9:53 pm, petertrei@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 12:28:34 AM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> In article <55dbc47e$0$1704$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, dtravel@sonic.net >>>> says... >>>>> >>>>> On 8/24/2015 3:44 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <MPG.30441f1154c0fee9989ad8@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ikevrob@my-deja.com says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTW, it seems the USDA considers rugosa roses to be noxious weeds. >>>>>>>> Your local lawn police may want you to root them out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they want them rooted out, they're welcome to do so. I'll be >>>>>>> happy to pay the fines for the joy of watching them do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> You know they'll just hire professionals to do it and then send you >>>>>> the bill. >>>>>> >>>>> Could still be worth it just to watch a professional with a flamethrower. >>>> >>>> Doesn't work. Sure, you burn it back a little, but now you have flame- >>>> hardened thorns, and the root is still fine. >>> >>> When I moved into my fiance's house, there was a patch of blackberries about >>> 15 feet across in the back yard. I don't know how that compares with the >>> roses mentioned, but they are Nature's barbed wire. >>> >>> I dealt with it by getting some long-handled loppers, and gradually, slowly >>> cutting the whole thing into 6 inch sections. That was too short for them to >>> matt together, and in the end I could rake away the cut up sections. >>> >>> After that, mowing over the resprouting roots regularly for 2-3 years killed >>> them off; they never got enough leaves to sustain themselves. >>> >>> The key was not seeking fast results. >> >> It took me close to ten years to get rid of the bamboo in my garden. >> Mixture of Roundup and digging. > > Yabbut, you're in Australia - your bamboo is probably huge and > has teeth and weapons and stuff. > If its in Australia, its poisonous. Even the imported mice and rabbits Down Under are poisonous now. -- Veni, vidi, snarki.
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| From | Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 10:34 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <d47baeF8kevU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #421157 |
On 27/08/2015 2:44 am, Anthony Nance wrote: > Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote: >> It took me close to ten years to get rid of the bamboo in my garden. >> Mixture of Roundup and digging. > > Yabbut, you're in Australia - your bamboo is probably huge and > has teeth and weapons and stuff. I'm glad you've been reading about the tourist attractions. -- Robert Bannister Perth, Western Australia
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 07:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55dc7ec3$0$1696$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #421049 |
On 8/24/2015 9:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > In article <55dbc47e$0$1704$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, dtravel@sonic.net > says... >> >> On 8/24/2015 3:44 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>> In article <MPG.30441f1154c0fee9989ad8@news.eternal-september.org>, >>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> said: >>> >>>> Ikevrob@my-deja.com says... >>>> >>>>> BTW, it seems the USDA considers rugosa roses to be noxious weeds. >>>>> Your local lawn police may want you to root them out. >>>> >>>> If they want them rooted out, they're welcome to do so. I'll be >>>> happy to pay the fines for the joy of watching them do it. >>> >>> You know they'll just hire professionals to do it and then send you >>> the bill. >>> >> Could still be worth it just to watch a professional with a flamethrower. > > Doesn't work. Sure, you burn it back a little, but now you have flame- > hardened thorns, and the root is still fine. > Then they didn't do a professional job! :) -- Veni, vidi, snarki.
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| From | Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3045a11bf2385856989922@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #421030 |
In article <55dbc47e$0$1704$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, dtravel@sonic.net says... > > On 8/24/2015 3:44 PM, William December Starr wrote: > > In article <MPG.30441f1154c0fee9989ad8@news.eternal-september.org>, > > "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> said: > > > >> Ikevrob@my-deja.com says... > >> > >>> BTW, it seems the USDA considers rugosa roses to be noxious weeds. > >>> Your local lawn police may want you to root them out. > >> > >> If they want them rooted out, they're welcome to do so. I'll be > >> happy to pay the fines for the joy of watching them do it. > > > > You know they'll just hire professionals to do it and then send you > > the bill. > > > Could still be worth it just to watch a professional with a flamethrower. Oh, the images this conjures up... Got a plant with fangs, growing in your lawn Who ya gonna call - Rose Busters!! :) -- Kay Shapero Address munged, try my first name at kayshapero dot net.
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| From | Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 19:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hr9qtaliobekceor8f94li59s1tumfq5tt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #421057 |
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:46:37 -0700, Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net>
wrote:
>In article <55dbc47e$0$1704$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, dtravel@sonic.net
>says...
[snip]
>> Could still be worth it just to watch a professional with a flamethrower.
>
>Oh, the images this conjures up...
>
>Got a plant with fangs, growing in your lawn
>Who ya gonna call - Rose Busters!! :)
I was thinking of something like David Gerrold's Cthorr series.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 02:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d402oqFdpmkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #420890 |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >> plus Groot >> from Guardians of the Galaxy (Vin Diesel?s finest role...) > >How can I forget Groot? Oh, I know--I'm old and it was recent. I didn't see that one, but the idea of plants as central characters brought to mind the Skroedlings. These were presented as plants, with ultra-high-tech processor assistance that brought them up to animal-level response speeds. But (spoiler) gur frdhry frrzrq gb cerfrag gurz nf arne-vagryyvtrag svfu, gung bayl frggyrq bhg nf gur cynag-yvxr betnavfzf nf na nqhyg sbez -- this would resemble many rooted animals in our own oceans and defeat the idea of them as plants. TV Tropes has a category http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlantAliens A quick glance through the "literature" section doesn't seem to mention much that we haven't covered, except for maybe Weinbaum's "Lotus Eaters" -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 15:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a373d0bf-a025-459c-aa31-e16f102c9020@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #420953 |
"The Lotus Eaters" I seem to remember they were dangerous, but the really kick-ass plants were on Mars. One almost got Tweel. They had another one- not dangerous, but you want to keep up with it. Its waste came in the shape of a brick, which it removed and distributed around itself to eventually form a pyramid. These formations ranged in size from ones that'd chip your mower blade if you don't notice it to a good start for a firepit to a somewhat inconvenient shed( less useful oned in between). -- -Jack
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 18:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mrg757$1te$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #421000 |
In article <a373d0bf-a025-459c-aa31-e16f102c9020@googlegroups.com>, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> said: > "The Lotus Eaters" I seem to remember they were dangerous, but the > really kick-ass plants were on Mars. One almost got Tweel. They > had another one- not dangerous, but you want to keep up with it. > Its waste came in the shape of a brick, which it removed and > distributed around itself to eventually form a pyramid. These > formations ranged in size from ones that'd chip your mower blade > if you don't notice it to a good start for a firepit to a somewhat > inconvenient shed( less useful oned in between). As I recall, the brick-maker was a silicon-based life-form so I don't think it could really be called a plant, even if it did leech its nutrients out of the ground underneath it. (Was there any indication that it collected / made direct use of sunlight?) (Note to others: the Mars story being discussed is Stanley G. Weinbaum's "A Martian Odyssey" from 1934.) -- wds
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| From | Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 06:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <51f3d181-742f-406d-b0ff-2a21cdc792f0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421005 |
William December Starr wrote: > In article <a373d0bf-a025-459c-aa31-e16f102c9020@googlegroups.com>, > Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> said: > > > "The Lotus Eaters" I seem to remember they were dangerous, but the > > really kick-ass plants were on Mars. One almost got Tweel. They > > had another one- not dangerous, but you want to keep up with it. > > Its waste came in the shape of a brick, which it removed and > > distributed around itself to eventually form a pyramid. These > > formations ranged in size from ones that'd chip your mower blade > > if you don't notice it to a good start for a firepit to a somewhat > > inconvenient shed( less useful oned in between). > > As I recall, the brick-maker was a silicon-based life-form so I > don't think it could really be called a plant, even if it did > leech its nutrients out of the ground underneath it. (Was there > any indication that it collected / made direct use of sunlight?) I was basing it mostly on the fact that it did root itself, did Tweel describe it as, "No breet"? I don't remember power being mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me to read it ran on a cache of radium. > (Note to others: the Mars story being discussed is Stanley > G. Weinbaum's "A Martian Odyssey" from 1934.) Speaking of Mars, Niven's _Rainbow Mars_ features a plant that'll ruin your garden if it takes hold in it. Varley's _Titan_ was mentioned as likely to have some nasty plants engineered by Gaea. I don't remember any, but was Gaea herself solar powered, making her a plant? (...and something obvious to me in the first book that got lost by the thrd book, isn't she herself an engineered lifeform?) -- -Jack
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 09:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4d74234b-cbe1-4edd-a04e-423d95acb7d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421065 |
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:43:56 AM UTC-7, Jack Bohn wrote: > Speaking of Mars, Niven's _Rainbow Mars_ features a plant that'll ruin your > planet if it takes hold in it. ^^^^^^ IFYPFY Now that I think about it, Niven's always been big on plants that are difficult in interesting ways. In _The Burning City_ his ropewalkers make rope from hemp, but they're also specially trained to harvest it without being stoned into fertilizer-hood by the live plant. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 19:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mriuo0$eq6$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #421065 |
In article <51f3d181-742f-406d-b0ff-2a21cdc792f0@googlegroups.com>, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> said: > Varley's _Titan_ was mentioned as likely to have some nasty plants > engineered by Gaea. I don't remember any, but was Gaea herself > solar powered, making her a plant? (...and something obvious to > me in the first book that got lost by the thrd book, isn't she > herself an engineered lifeform?) I have the feeling that with that series "got lost by the third book" also describes John Varley. -- wds
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| From | Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 13:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e9d97262-85fb-4f95-91ba-9dddadcab966@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #420877 |
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-4, Wolffan wrote: > On 23 Aug 2015, Mike Dworetsky wrote > (in article<hoSdnSYhEdEKTUTInZ2dnUU78K-dnZ2d@supernews.com>): > > > > Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are > > > there? I know about the Triffids, and Audrey, but are there any > > > others? > > > > The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated > > sunlight onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. [snip-snip] Simak's _All Flesh Is Grass_ (1965), at least for Simakian values of "badass". > the Thing in the movie _The Thing_ [snip] There is also _Adéla Jeste Nevecerela_ (Czechoslovakia 1978), a Nick Carter parody (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075633/combined) Speaking of parodies, we shouldn't forget "Houseplants of Gor" (http://1871atboe.tumblr.com/post/77291658097/houseplants-of-gor-the-spider-plant-cringed-as)!
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 21:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d3uqjnF4ndeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #420899 |
In article <e9d97262-85fb-4f95-91ba-9dddadcab966@googlegroups.com>, Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote: >On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-4, Wolffan wrote: >> On 23 Aug 2015, Mike Dworetsky wrote >> (in article<hoSdnSYhEdEKTUTInZ2dnUU78K-dnZ2d@supernews.com>): >> >> > > Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are >> > > there? I know about the Triffids, and Audrey, but are there any >> > > others? >> > >> > The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated >> > sunlight onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. > >[snip-snip] > >Simak's _All Flesh Is Grass_ (1965), at least for Simakian values >of "badass". > >> the Thing in the movie _The Thing_ [snip] > >There is also _Adéla Jeste Nevecerela_ (Czechoslovakia 1978), a >Nick Carter parody (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075633/combined) > >Speaking of parodies, we shouldn't forget "Houseplants of Gor" >(http://1871atboe.tumblr.com/post/77291658097/houseplants-of-gor-the-spider-plant-cringed-as)! Well, if you want to got to parodies -- how about things that weren't but should have been? http://tinyurl.com/nacnnk2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_KdE_zBCE4 -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3044130324125d56989ad7@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #420904 |
In article <d3uqjnF4ndeU1@mid.individual.net>, ted@loft.tnolan.com says... > > In article <e9d97262-85fb-4f95-91ba-9dddadcab966@googlegroups.com>, > Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote: > >On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-4, Wolffan wrote: > >> On 23 Aug 2015, Mike Dworetsky wrote > >> (in article<hoSdnSYhEdEKTUTInZ2dnUU78K-dnZ2d@supernews.com>): > >> > >> > > Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are > >> > > there? I know about the Triffids, and Audrey, but are there any > >> > > others? > >> > > >> > The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated > >> > sunlight onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. > > > >[snip-snip] > > > >Simak's _All Flesh Is Grass_ (1965), at least for Simakian values > >of "badass". > > > >> the Thing in the movie _The Thing_ [snip] > > > >There is also _Adéla Jeste Nevecerela_ (Czechoslovakia 1978), a > >Nick Carter parody (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075633/combined) > > > >Speaking of parodies, we shouldn't forget "Houseplants of Gor" > >(http://1871atboe.tumblr.com/post/77291658097/houseplants-of-gor-the-spider-plant-cringed-as)! > > Well, if you want to got to parodies -- how about things that weren't but > should have been? > > http://tinyurl.com/nacnnk2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_KdE_zBCE4 That whole series should have been a parody of something.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.304411bc77b492ff989ad6@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #420899 |
In article <e9d97262-85fb-4f95-91ba-9dddadcab966@googlegroups.com>, ahasuerus@email.com says... > > On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-4, Wolffan wrote: > > On 23 Aug 2015, Mike Dworetsky wrote > > (in article<hoSdnSYhEdEKTUTInZ2dnUU78K-dnZ2d@supernews.com>): > > > > > > Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are > > > > there? I know about the Triffids, and Audrey, but are there any > > > > others? > > > > > > The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated > > > sunlight onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. > > [snip-snip] > > Simak's _All Flesh Is Grass_ (1965), at least for Simakian values > of "badass". > > > the Thing in the movie _The Thing_ [snip] > > There is also _Adéla Jeste Nevecerela_ (Czechoslovakia 1978), a > Nick Carter parody (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075633/combined) > > Speaking of parodies, we shouldn't forget "Houseplants of Gor" > (http://1871atboe.tumblr.com/post/77291658097/houseplants-of-gor-the-spider-plant-cringed-as)! I'd like to see Borin try that on a rugosa rose.
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| From | Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA4FFC73042F6Fmelchizedek@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #420899 |
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote in news:e9d97262-85fb-4f95-91ba-9dddadcab966@googlegroups.com: > On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-4, Wolffan wrote: >> On 23 Aug 2015, Mike Dworetsky wrote >> (in article<hoSdnSYhEdEKTUTInZ2dnUU78K-dnZ2d@supernews.com>): >> >> > > Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are >> > > there? I know about the Triffids, and Audrey, but are there any >> > > others? >> > >> > The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated >> > sunlight onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. > > [snip-snip] Those sunflowers are grateful that nocturnal herbivores don't exist in Known Space. pt
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| From | lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 08:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mrfcsc$v9q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #420877 |
On 8/23/15 9:48 AM, Wolffan wrote: > assorted world trees Speaking of "world trees," have Niven's "Integral Trees" had a mention already?
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| From | Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 16:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20150824a@crcomp.net> |
| In reply to | #420975 |
lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/15 9:48 AM, Wolffan wrote:
>
>> assorted world trees
>
> Speaking of "world trees," have Niven's "Integral Trees" had a mention
> already?
Speaking of Niven's "The Integral Trees," its debut serialization
appears in the Oct 1983 _Analog_. That magazine just happens to be on my
bookshelf. "Let's see... Yes, here it is..."
(In search of the story within my higher self has me randomly open the
magazine to page 64. No kidding. My eyes stare in disbelief.)
"What's this? It looks like General Lee with an alien gleam in his eyes.
Yet another Turtledovian take on the Civil War? Sweeeet."
The story's named "Quarks at Appomattox" and Charles L Harness, not
Turtledove, wrote it. The teaser says:
Given a time machine,
people will try to change key events in their own past.
But they'd do well
to remember that the participants in those events
had minds and motivations
of their own.
Goodbye Niven. Hello Harness. :)
--
,-. There was a young lady named Bright
\_/ Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)< Don Kuenz KB7RPU She set out one day
/ \ In a relative way
`-' And returned on the previous night.
What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 12:51 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d417d6Fn3akU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #420977 |
Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote: >lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 8/23/15 9:48 AM, Wolffan wrote: >> >>> assorted world trees >> >> Speaking of "world trees," have Niven's "Integral Trees" had a mention >> already? > >Speaking of Niven's "The Integral Trees," its debut serialization >appears in the Oct 1983 _Analog_. That magazine just happens to be on my >bookshelf. "Let's see... Yes, here it is..." Niven read two chapters from his upcoming novel "The Smoke Ring" at a convention in spring of 82. The original name went with the second half of the split when it outgrew its binding. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 02:05 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <d401i7FdejdU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #420865 |
"Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote: >> Now, that led me to wonder, what truly badass SFanal flowers are >> there? I know about the Triffids, and >> Audrey, but are there any others? > >The fields of reflecting sunflowers in Ringworld that concentrated sunlight >onto any flying object, and fried it to a crisp. Also on Silvereyes. http://larryniven.wikia.com/wiki/Silvereyes (Niven has put this short story up on the web somewhere, but a quick google didn't find it for me.) -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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