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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
| Subject | Re: 'X' SF authors |
| Message-ID | <nw501B.2H0@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-10-13 02:24 +0000 |
| References | <slrnn1j8hh.6oq.dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> <1vlyzg5suml0l$.1jbk5dvzhzfca.dlg@40tude.net> <mvgt7m$hns$1@dont-email.me> <98d01fc8-cd90-4ebf-944b-7ffd7dc64a3b@googlegroups.com> |
| Organization | Kithrup Enterprises, Ld. |
In article <98d01fc8-cd90-4ebf-944b-7ffd7dc64a3b@googlegroups.com>, Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote: >On Monday, 12 October 2015 19:17:27 UTC+1, William Vetter wrote: >> Brian M. Scott wrote: >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc >> > <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote >> > in<news:334e4999-9458-481f-a0e0-392c7134fd62@googlegroups.com> >> > in rec.arts.sf.written: >> > >> > [...] >> > >> >> The title of your post had me thinking it was about >> >> sci-fi flavored porn! That, at least, does exist, >> >> deplorably. >> > >> > There's nothing deplorable about its existence per se. >> > Some of it is deplorably ill-written, but that's another >> > matter altogether (and is true of all writing). >> > >> The people who read it won't care how it's written. They won't even >> know, when it's terribly written. The bottom line is that the reader >> will think it's good if it caters to his response pattern; he will >> think the writer is a great one if it makes him come. He will send the >> author sincere fan letters describing his orgasm, tell him he is a >> great writer. >> >> That may sound crude of me to say, but it's merely the literal truth. > >YMMV but badly written erotica just isn't erotic. >Otherwise people would write their own... well, >quite a few do, but, like any fiction, it's less >engaging if you don't believe in it; if you don't >suspend your... awareness that it's fiction. > >For that matter, I'm going to be somewhat less >interested in the letter-writer's orgasm if >I doubt their sincerity. (On the other hand, >I may be worried about how the envelope was >stuck down.) Surely even the writer of porn is interested chiefly of whether he gets paid for it, and the enumerations of readers' orgasms are trifles compared to the writer's royalties. Now I'm remembering the story of Anais Nin, who in the roaring twenties was commissioned by an anonymous reader (who worked through an agent and whose identity, I believe, she never learned) to write special-purpose porn. So she wrote many installments, and I hope she got paid for them, but the only comments she got back from the unknown reader were "Less art! More sex!" You just can't please some people. > >On topic, I have, let's say, a warm feeling >for Phil Foglio's _Xxxenophile_ comics ... >at least when the characters are recognisably >humanoid. I don't think I've ever read those, though the Buck Godot episode involving Sizzlin' Sue was sufficiently ... warm that it's the one Godot story they've never put online. They have kids of their own, after all. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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'X' SF authors -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-10 19:41 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 17:18 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 17:24 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-10-11 10:29 +0100
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-11 04:50 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-10-11 15:22 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-10 20:39 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 19:08 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 00:38 -0500
Re: 'X' SF authors Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-19 17:05 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-19 21:32 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-19 19:07 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-19 19:38 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-19 20:11 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:13 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 11:37 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 14:52 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-12 19:50 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:31 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-13 02:20 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-19 17:08 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-12 14:46 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-12 19:49 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 17:18 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-13 12:21 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 16:58 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 16:22 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-12 14:40 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-12 21:58 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-13 02:24 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:11 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-10-10 17:25 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-10 20:48 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 19:51 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 19:55 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-10 20:35 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2015-10-10 19:40 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 03:18 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 19:42 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-11 12:12 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 00:33 -0500
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-11 12:19 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-12 09:16 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-11 02:23 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-12 16:24 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-13 11:23 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 10:47 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-13 18:09 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-13 16:56 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-13 18:08 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-13 16:57 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:09 -0400
Re: 'X' SF authors Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 14:43 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-11 04:23 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-10-10 21:46 -0700
Re: 'X' SF authors David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-10-11 02:43 -0600
Re: 'X' SF authors David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-11 04:29 -0500
Re: 'X' SF authors nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-10-15 12:11 +0000
Re: 'X' SF authors -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-15 19:28 -0400
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