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| From | Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: Good new altenate history authors? |
| Date | 2016-06-09 17:06 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20160609a@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
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Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 4:08:42 PM UTC+10, Don Kuenz wrote:
>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > On 2016-06-06, Dale Cozort <dalecoz2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I'm a big alternate history fan. I've read most of Turtledove's stuff and the
>> >> SM Stirling alternate history stuff, along with Stross's Merchant Princes
>> >> novels and Eric Flint's 163X. What I'm looking for are authors on the way up
>> >> with stuff that plays the AH reasonably straight--not the Roman empire
>> >> survives because they tamed dragons and Emperor Marilyn Monroe is now
>> >> invading President Jeb Bush's US or Nazi sorcerers.
>> >
>> > The very first to spring to mind is actually a webcomic, found at
>> > girlgeniusonline.com . An alternate Europe (and England) in a universe where
>> > devisors, called "sparks", build gadgets and organisms that toy with the laws
>> > of physics and are susceptible to Science-Related Memetic Disorder as well
>> > ( < http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceRelatedMemeticDisorde
r > )
>> > {DO NOT CLICK THE ABOVE LINK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO DO TODAY}.
>>
>> Yet another (older than GG) AH is _The Man in the High Castle_ by PKD.
>
> It doesn't qualify, being neither good nor new.
There's an even older novella named "Two Dooms" by Cyril M. Kornbluth
that piques my own interest. It includes time travel, AH, a desert
setting, and peyote. It's on order now. Here's a review:
Review: "Two Dooms" by C. M. Kornbluth
This short story was originally published in 1958, and can
be classified as a science fantasy piece concerned with
alternate history. Cyril M. Kornbluth is one of the most
gifted short fiction writers one may encounter in the
realm of speculative fiction, and this has to be one of
his most brilliant works, though it runs only 34
closely-printed pages. Kornbluth uses a plot-device
wherein he makes his central character ingest a peyote
button administered by a Hopi medicine man. Our protagonist
is an overworked, ethically-troubled young scientist,
Dr. Edward Royland, working under Oppenheimer on the
Manhattan Project in the desert of New Mexico. The peyote
and a kind of quantum-shamanic ritual open a temporal
portal for the protagonist, who is taken on an odyssey
in which he experiences a far future America where the
German Nazis and the Japanese Imperialists are the winners
of World War II, and the feudalistic, fascistic, racist,
and anti-intellectual tenets of these powers have been
allowed to develop in the former United States, which
these two powers have long ago divided between them in a
kind of interlocking confederacy. The result of this has
been a complete devolution of the free and democratic
society the time-traveling young scientist had once known
back in the mid-1940s. In terms of literary publication,
this short story anticipates the same scenario found in
Phillip K. Dick's brilliant novel, The Man in the High
Castle, by six years, and in many ways Kornbluth's tale of
an Axis Powers' victory conveys a far more intense experience
for the reader in its exploration of the ramifications of
both Asian and European versions of fascism upon the lot of
the common person, as well as the wreckage it makes of
education and scientific advancement.
(excerpt)
http://goodshortfictiontoread.blogspot.com/2010/03/review-two-dooms-by-c-m-kornbluth.html
--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
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