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| From | Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.science, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime |
| Date | 2015-08-22 16:44 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20150822a@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
| References | <20150821a@crcomp.net> <mr99ro$f50$1@panix2.panix.com> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
In rec.arts.sf.written William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <20150821a@crcomp.net>,
> Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> said:
>
>> Bradbury's "Frost and Frost" [4], written in 1946,
>
> slight error on the title:
>
> * Frost and Fire (1946) also appeared as:
> + Variant Title: The Creatures That Time Forgot (1946)
>
>> also fails to honor inertia. In the story, exposure to radiation
>> causes the survivors of a rocket crash to live out their lives in
>> eight short days. Yet the survivors easily open the door of their
>> rocket.
>
> Although their development and aging took place at a hyperfast rate,
> I'm not sure that they were accelerated. I think that they
> subjectively as well as objectively experienced only about 190 hours
> of existence from birth to death by old age. Or at last that's how
> I interpreted it when I read the story way back when.
>
> (No, even with some sort of near-instant education process you still
> can't make the setup make any sense. This _is_ Bradbury after all.)
>
>> In television it again is "hit or miss" in regards to inertia. The
>> _Outer Limits_ episode called "The Premonition" [5] honors
>> inertia.
>
> Sort of. It did with regard to macro objects, but not, say, air
> molecules. (I.e., the accelerated characters could breathe.) There
> was also some inconsistency even at the macro level; the characters
> were able to move a piece of nylon strapping around so as to rig a
> connection between a (frozen) runaway truck's front wheel and its
> brake pedal such that in the real-time frame of reference the
> turning wheel mechanically applied the brake.
>
> (As with the Bradbury story, this is as best as I recall. I could
> be misremembering.)
Thank you for catching the Bradbury typo. :)
Air molecules are a show stopper. If inertia prevents a hypertimer from
moving rain drops, how can they inhale air molecules? This perhaps begs
the question, where is the hypertime boundary?
Psuedohypertime radiation bathes Bradbury's rocket. Perhaps the skin of
that rocket is a psuedohypertime boundary. And people's skin is another
psuedohypertime boundary.
In "The Premonition" the seat belts come from a car that has moved into
hypertime along with its driver. So, at the macro level, it still works.
--
,-. There was a young lady named Bright
\_/ Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)< Don Kuenz KB7RPU She set out one day
/ \ In a relative way
`-' And returned on the previous night.
What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.
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Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 02:48 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-22 03:54 -0400
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 16:44 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-22 03:32 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 10:35 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 17:50 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:50 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-22 17:02 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 16:47 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-22 12:35 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-22 17:04 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:41 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Richard Todd <rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com> - 2015-08-22 12:49 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-22 14:56 -0400
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 20:49 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Richard Todd <rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com> - 2015-08-22 17:10 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-22 17:07 -0500
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 11:15 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-22 22:41 -0400
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-22 20:50 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-08-23 02:20 +0000
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-08-23 13:45 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-23 17:14 -0700
Re: Inertia as the Key Insight to Hypertime Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-24 01:28 +0000
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