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  Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-16 17:23 -0400
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 20:56 -0400
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-17 03:19 +0000
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2025-08-17 11:39 +0000
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-17 16:22 +0100
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 11:27 -0400
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-17 17:59 -0400
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-17 15:53 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 14:58 -0400
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 16:24 -0400
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 18:19 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-17 22:33 +0000
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 21:14 -0400
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-18 17:22 +0100
                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-18 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 18:04 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 22:27 +0000
                        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 20:12 -0400
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-18 21:18 -0400
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 23:51 -0400
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-20 02:41 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-20 11:21 +0100
                                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-20 13:27 +0100
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 07:37 -0400
                                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-20 10:52 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-20 08:09 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-20 14:37 +0000
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-19 17:01 +0100
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-19 21:34 -0400
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-20 16:41 +0100
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-20 16:56 +0000
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:39 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2025-08-20 23:11 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2025-08-20 23:11 -0400
                        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> - 2025-08-21 06:50 -0700
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> - 2025-08-21 11:04 -0500
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 10:25 -0700
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-23 20:19 +0000
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> - 2025-08-23 16:07 -0700
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:42 -0400
                              Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 17:54 -0400
                                Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> - 2025-08-22 18:11 -0500
                                  Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 20:38 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-17 21:50 -0400
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 02:19 +0000
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-17 22:46 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-17 20:12 -0400
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 01:49 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-18 17:22 +0100
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 18:18 +0000
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 18:59 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 01:28 +0000
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 21:50 -0400
                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 15:05 +0000

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#146851 — Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid

It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in 
Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day, 
assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/
-- 
Gary McGath    http://www.mcgath.com

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#146853

On 8/16/2025 5:23 PM, Gary McGath wrote:
> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in 
> Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day, 
> assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
> 
> https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/

I may well do so too.

pt

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#146854

In article <107r9cb$20l36$3@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/16/2025 5:23 PM, Gary McGath wrote:
>> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in 
>> Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day, 
>> assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
>> 
>> https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/
>
>I may well do so too.

[Hal Heydt]
I'm considering combining going to the Pennsic War, visiting my
son & his family in New York, my sister in Boston, and Montreal
for the WorldCon.  All by rail.  For the return, I'd consider
taking the Candadian run west.  

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#146855

Gary McGath wrote:

> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon
> will be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can
> drive there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still
> feasible in 2027.

If a certain person had their way there would be no border! ;-)

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#146857

In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath)
wrote:

> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be 
> in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in 
> a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much mote
relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)

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#146858

On 8/17/25 11:22 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath)
> wrote:
> 
>> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
>> in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
>> a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
> 
> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much mote
> relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)

Neither does my friend in Massachusetts, but if we decide to go, I'll 
drive four hours to her place; hang out overnight, then drive four hours 
with her to Montreal.

I'll have to renew my passport, though. :-(

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146862

In article <107ssdf$2c7jk$1@dont-email.me>,
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/17/25 11:22 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath)
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
>>> in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
>>> a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
>> 
>> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much mote
>> relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)
>
>Neither does my friend in Massachusetts, but if we decide to go, I'll 
>drive four hours to her place; hang out overnight, then drive four hours 
>with her to Montreal.

It took four hours in the site selection meeting in order for them to
decide on Montreal even though they were running unopposed.  It was a
miracle of bureaucracy!  Your drive may take no longer!
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#146859

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
>> It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
>> be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
>> there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
>> 2027.

> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
> mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)

I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.

Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146860

On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>> garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
>>> It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
>>> be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
>>> there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
>>> 2027.
> 
>> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
>> mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)
> 
> I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
> to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
> railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
> can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
> 
> Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
> summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.

Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.

America, Netherlands, that is.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146861

On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
> On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>>> garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
>>>> It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
>>>> be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
>>>> there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
>>>> 2027.
>>
>>> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
>>> mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)
>>
>> I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
>> to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
>> railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
>> can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
>>
>> Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
>> summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.
> 
> Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
> 
> America, Netherlands, that is.
> 

I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

pt

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#146863

On 8/17/25 4:24 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>> On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>>> Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
>>>>> It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
>>>>> be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
>>>>> there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
>>>>> 2027.
>>>
>>>> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
>>>> mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)
>>>
>>> I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
>>> to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
>>> railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
>>> can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
>>>
>>> Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
>>> summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.
>>
>> Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
>>
>> America, Netherlands, that is.
>>
> 
> I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
> between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the 
border between it is a river.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146864

Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
>> between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

> There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
> border between it is a river.

I live in Vienna.  I've never been to Austria.

There really is a land border between Denmark and Canada.  It's on a
small uninhabited island that those two nations share.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146867

On 8/17/25 6:33 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
>>> between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.
> 
>> There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
>> border between it is a river.
> 
> I live in Vienna.  I've never been to Austria.
> 
> There really is a land border between Denmark and Canada.  It's on a
> small uninhabited island that those two nations share.

I once wrote on a foodie group that we had some great Iranian food in 
Vienna ... Virginia. (The Rose Kebab Restaurant, if you're wondering.)

France's longest border is with Brazil.

The world's shortest border is between Spain and Morocco, on Peñón de 
Vélez de la Gomera.

(We won't even talk about the borders in Baarle-Nassau.)

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146872

In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:

> I live in Vienna.  I've never been to Austria.

I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.

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#146874

On 8/18/25 12:22 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
> Lynch) wrote:
> 
>> I live in Vienna.  I've never been to Austria.
> 
> I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.

I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

-- 
Gary McGath    http://www.mcgath.com

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#146875

Gary McGath  <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>On 8/18/25 12:22 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
>> Lynch) wrote:
>> 
>>> I live in Vienna.  I've never been to Austria.
>> 
>> I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.
>
>I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#146876

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>> I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

I'm reminded of _Violent Is the Word for Curly_, a 1938 Three Stooges
short in which a professor says he plans to return to Hamburg on the
Clipper.  Curly, mishearing it, says he never heard of a hamburger
with a zipper.  It's noteworthy as containing the first-ever music
video.  It can be viewed for free on YouTube.

> Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany.  Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146878

Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>>> I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
>
>I'm reminded of _Violent Is the Word for Curly_, a 1938 Three Stooges
>short in which a professor says he plans to return to Hamburg on the
>Clipper.  Curly, mishearing it, says he never heard of a hamburger
>with a zipper.  It's noteworthy as containing the first-ever music
>video.  It can be viewed for free on YouTube.
>
>> Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
>
>Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
>(Frankfurt is a city in Germany.  Frankfort is the capital of
>Kentucky.)

That's much farther away.  You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
-scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#146879

On 8/18/25 8:12 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>>> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>>>> I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
>>
>>
>>> Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
>>
>> Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
>> (Frankfurt is a city in Germany.  Frankfort is the capital of
>> Kentucky.)
> 
> That's much farther away.  You might as well have chili in Chile if
> you're going to do that.

Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry 
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told 
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience 
wasn't confused.

-- 
Gary McGath    http://www.mcgath.com

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#146881

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
> Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult.  That name for a
> pastry similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and
> I'm told it isn't much used in Berlin.  For that and other reasons,
> JFK's audience wasn't confused.

Yes, unlike President Carter's audience in Warsaw.  His translator was
immediately fired.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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