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  Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-03 12:05 +0200
    Re: Anyone still here? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2021-09-03 11:01 -0400
      Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-06 08:35 +0200
    Re: Anyone still here? "E. Liddell" <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> - 2021-09-03 15:46 +0000
      Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-06 09:06 +0200
        Re: Anyone still here? "E. Liddell" <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> - 2021-09-08 18:51 +0000
          Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-08 21:30 +0200
            Re: Anyone still here? "E. Liddell" <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> - 2021-09-12 02:53 +0000
              Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-12 19:59 +0200
                Re: Anyone still here? "E. Liddell" <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> - 2021-09-14 02:51 +0000
          Re: Anyone still here? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-09-08 19:40 +0000
    Re: Anyone still here? masha@jymes.com - 2021-09-05 01:19 -0500
      Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-06 08:34 +0200
        Re: Anyone still here? Capuchin@jymes.com - 2021-09-06 20:24 -0500
          Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-07 13:49 +0200
            Re: Anyone still here? Capuchin@jymes.com - 2021-09-08 11:46 -0500
              Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-08 21:28 +0200
                Re: Anyone still here? Capuchin@jymes.com - 2021-09-10 23:34 -0500
                  Re: Anyone still here? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-09-11 05:12 +0000
                  Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-11 12:06 +0200
                    Re: Anyone still here? Capuchin <Capuchin@jymes.com> - 2021-09-11 15:42 -0500
                      Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-12 20:26 +0200
              Re: Anyone still here? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-09-08 19:43 +0000
    Re: Anyone still here? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2021-09-05 20:06 -0400
      Re: Anyone still here? "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> - 2021-09-06 09:05 +0200

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#42576 — Anyone still here?

Hi,

I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.


-- 
[When they were kids.] "You and Shenay told father to go play with some Lord 
and never understood why I protested that." - "Well, he has the habit to hug
everything in sight." - Turim smiled. "I _am_ an Earth Priest." 
         -- Tashen, Shanos, and their father, S&E 2/3: Controlling the Magic

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#42577

On 2021 Sep 03, A. Tina Hall wrote
(in article <FdBTklPstGB@A_Tina_Hall>):

> Hi,
>
> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

i’m still here.

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#42582

On 06.09.21, Wolffan  <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On 2021 Sep 03, A. Tina Hall wrote
> (in article <FdBTklPstGB@A_Tina_Hall>):

>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

> i?m still here.

Cool. :)

Are you working on anything you might want to talk about here?

-- 
(Ipoq) "You'll have to visit the Water tribe one day. There are plants
that wander, and animals with something like roots, down in the ocean."
(Thay) "I think I'm confused enough."
(Ghareg) "I didn't even say anything yet."    -- Seasons & Elements 3/3

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#42578

On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

Some people drop by now and again.

E. Liddell

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#42583

On 06.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

> Some people drop by now and again.

Cool. :)

Are you working on anything?

I still reread my two bigger stories now and then, polishing, and trying  
to finish writing one of them, but I really miss just talking about  
them.

-- 
"I was going to talk with Norlan about that, as well. Maybe he'll come up with something." - "After he has exploded your head about this, or before?"
"Preferably before. Talking is a bit awkward when you're busy gathering up the
bits of your head, or so I've heard."              -- Gorash and Thay, S&E 2/3

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#42588

On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:06:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

> On 06.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:
> 
>>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.
> 
>> Some people drop by now and again.
> 
> Cool. :)
> 
> Are you working on anything?

Alas, not that can appropriately be discussed here.  Bad 
fan fiction, computer code, and I just finished building 
an item of furniture.  Also having far too much fun playing
with my 3D printer.

E. Liddell

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#42590

On 08.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:06:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

>> Are you working on anything?

> Alas, not that can appropriately be discussed here.  Bad
> fan fiction, computer code, and I just finished building
> an item of furniture.  Also having far too much fun playing
> with my 3D printer.

Oh, how can you have too much fun with a 3D printer? :))

What item of furniture did you build? Anything you could imagine being  
inhabited by a folk of gnomes? (To try to stay somewhat on topic. :P )

-- 
"I'm surprised you two haven't started fighting yet." Thay said.
"Rhaevan never fights, she says that's silly." Shareahn informed him.
"It is." Rhaevan confirmed.
"Isn't."              -- Seasons & Elements 3/3: Colluding with Magic

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#42597

On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 21:30:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

> On 08.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:06:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:
> 
>>> Are you working on anything?
> 
>> Alas, not that can appropriately be discussed here.  Bad fan fiction,
>> computer code, and I just finished building an item of furniture.  Also
>> having far too much fun playing with my 3D printer.
> 
> Oh, how can you have too much fun with a 3D printer? :))

By doing things that require leaving it on all the time?
(Well, okay, the truth is that I've just been spending 
too much time with it that I should be spending on other
things instead.)

> What item of furniture did you build? Anything you could imagine being
> inhabited by a folk of gnomes? (To try to stay somewhat on topic. :P )

It's an entertainment center (basically a glorified
shelving unit).  I needed one that would fit into a
specific space and accommodate three game systems,
a blu-ray player, a DVD player, and a VCR.

I doubt there's enough empty space in it for gnome 
occupancy.  Or for the conga rats to practice their 
line dancing, either. ;)

E. Liddell

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#42599

On 12.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 21:30:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

>> Oh, how can you have too much fun with a 3D printer? :))

> By doing things that require leaving it on all the time?
> (Well, okay, the truth is that I've just been spending
> too much time with it that I should be spending on other
> things instead.)

Hehe, does sound like fun though!

>> What item of furniture did you build? Anything you could imagine
>> being inhabited by a folk of gnomes? (To try to stay somewhat on
>> topic. :P )

> It's an entertainment center (basically a glorified
> shelving unit).  I needed one that would fit into a
> specific space and accommodate three game systems,
> a blu-ray player, a DVD player, and a VCR.

Oooh, a VCR! Couldn't find one when I went to buy one some years ago  
(mine stopped working some time before that). These days I have a hdd  
connected to the TV to 'tape' things.

What game systems are those? Consoles? (I don't know anything about  
them, I'm just playing games on the PC, Steam games mostly these days.)

> I doubt there's enough empty space in it for gnome
> occupancy.  Or for the conga rats to practice their
> line dancing, either. ;)

Hehe, but gnomes have inter-space-dimensional-warping abilities, they  
can squeeze even into space that isn't there! ;P

Though I guess the rats do have to line up somewhere on the top maybe.  
:)

-- 
"He killed it." Dahrahn said.
(Chyraen) "How!"
"He's a Spring Priest, how do you think he did  | Seasons & Elements 2/3:
it, covering it in flowers?" Shanos asked.      | Controlling the Magic

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#42600

On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 19:59:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:

> On 12.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 21:30:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:
> 
>>> Oh, how can you have too much fun with a 3D printer? :))
> 
>> By doing things that require leaving it on all the time?
>> (Well, okay, the truth is that I've just been spending too much time
>> with it that I should be spending on other things instead.)
> 
> Hehe, does sound like fun though!

It's an interesting toy, although right now 3D printers
in general still require too much hand-holding to be really
user-friendly.  And I'm learning things about the differences
between specific types of plastic that I'm not sure I ever
really wanted to know. ;P

>>> What item of furniture did you build? Anything you could imagine being
>>> inhabited by a folk of gnomes? (To try to stay somewhat on topic. :P )
> 
>> It's an entertainment center (basically a glorified shelving unit).  I
>> needed one that would fit into a specific space and accommodate three
>> game systems,
>> a blu-ray player, a DVD player, and a VCR.
> 
> Oooh, a VCR! Couldn't find one when I went to buy one some years ago
> (mine stopped working some time before that). These days I have a hdd
> connected to the TV to 'tape' things.

I have a bunch of old pre-recorded commercial VHS tapes
(still) that would cost hundreds of dollars to replace
with disc media.  If the VCR I have hooked up now stops
working, there's another on the shelf below it.  If they
both die, I'll start checking pawn shops, charity shops,
and garage sales.

> What game systems are those? Consoles? (I don't know anything about
> them, I'm just playing games on the PC, Steam games mostly these days.)

Older consoles, the newest one being a Playstation 2.
I've resisted getting anything newer because a lot of
3D games make me motion-sick.  PC games are problematic,
since my primary computer runs a less-popular Linux
distro and I don't find Steam's required client program
*or* their DRM acceptable, which limits me to buying from
GOG and itch.io.

>> I doubt there's enough empty space in it for gnome occupancy.  Or for
>> the conga rats to practice their line dancing, either. ;)
> 
> Hehe, but gnomes have inter-space-dimensional-warping abilities, they
> can squeeze even into space that isn't there! ;P
> 
> Though I guess the rats do have to line up somewhere on the top maybe.
> :)

My cats would just *love* the conga rats.  To pieces. ;)

E. Liddell

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#42591

In article <VC7_I.33466$tG6.19423@fx39.iad>,
E. Liddell <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:06:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:
>
>> On 06.09.21, E. Liddell  <eliddell@no.patience.for.spam> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, A. Tina Hall wrote:
>> 
>>>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.
>> 
>>> Some people drop by now and again.
>> 
>> Cool. :)
>> 
>> Are you working on anything?
>
>Alas, not that can appropriately be discussed here.  Bad 
>fan fiction, computer code, and I just finished building 
>an item of furniture.  Also having far too much fun playing
>with my 3D printer.

I'm working on a space opera--complete with swamps on Venus and
canals on Mars--because I wanted to.  I fudged this by placing
the action in the sixth century After the Reunion, which was
preceded by an Interregnum of at least a thousand years, during
which space travel and much other technology were lost, and before
which those worlds were terraformed.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
which those worlds were terraformed

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#42579

On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
<A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

Well, people tell me I'm not all there . . .

This ng is in my list which gets checked for new posts every day.
Whenever there is one, I look in.

Capuchin

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#42584

On 06.09.21, masha@jymes.com  <masha@jymes.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
> <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.

> Well, people tell me I'm not all there . . .

LOL.

> This ng is in my list which gets checked for new posts every day.
> Whenever there is one, I look in.

That's cool.

I have to admit I kept forgetting about getting new posts for long  
stretches ever since I got broadband and soon after started hanging out  
on Steam.

Are you working on anything? Want to talk about composition of SF? :)

-- 
Ghareg sighed. What was the point in surrounding yourself in confusion, 
when every time something happened someone clever dug you out anyway? 
                       -- Seasons & Elements 2/3: Controlling the Magic

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#42585

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:34:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
<A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 06.09.21, masha@jymes.com  <masha@jymes.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:05:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
>> <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I wonder whether anyone's still around, or this is completely empty.
>
>> Well, people tell me I'm not all there . . .
>
>LOL.
>
>> This ng is in my list which gets checked for new posts every day.
>> Whenever there is one, I look in.
>
>That's cool.
>
>I have to admit I kept forgetting about getting new posts for long  
>stretches ever since I got broadband and soon after started hanging out  
>on Steam.
>
>Are you working on anything? Want to talk about composition of SF? :)

I have several wsip (works supposedly in progress), but basically my
entire life has been on hold for over a year, and some things have to
get sorted out before I can even hope to have any sort of motivation.

I occasionally post snippets of older stuff on Reddit, hoping a
comment or two might spark me into working on it more. Sadly, so far,
nothing has struck a chord.

Making matters worse, I bought a copy of "Save the Cat Writes a Novel"
by Jessica Brody. It's all about structuring and necessary parts of a
story. Even without accepting it as gospel, it makes enough sense that
I can see/understand why no story over 10K words that I've written has
ever drawn any interest from agents/publishers. After maybe six
months, I'm only about one-fourth of the way through it and would have
to start over if I was to try to really absorb the info with intent to
use it.

I'm open to offering comments (for what they're worth) on
problems/thoughts/discussions other want to bring in, but when it
comes to new content which might be even remotely interesting, I'm a
dry hole. 

Capuchin

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#42586

On 07.09.21, Capuchin@jymes.com  <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:
> "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>> Are you working on anything? Want to talk about composition of SF?
>> :)

> I have several wsip (works supposedly in progress), but basically my
> entire life has been on hold for over a year, and some things have to
> get sorted out before I can even hope to have any sort of motivation.

Aw man, hope you get that sorted out to your satisfaction. :)

> I occasionally post snippets of older stuff on Reddit, hoping a
> comment or two might spark me into working on it more. Sadly, so far,
> nothing has struck a chord.

Oh, Reddit. I don't hang out there. A Steam friend mentioned it's an odd  
place. He asks a question for a build in Terraria, and gets a ton of  
upvotes, but no reply, or something weird like that.

Might be better to post your snippets here? :)

> Making matters worse, I bought a copy of "Save the Cat Writes a
> Novel" by Jessica Brody. It's all about structuring and necessary
> parts of a story. Even without accepting it as gospel, it makes
> enough sense that I can see/understand why no story over 10K words
> that I've written has ever drawn any interest from agents/publishers.
> After maybe six months, I'm only about one-fourth of the way through
> it and would have to start over if I was to try to really absorb the
> info with intent to use it.

Maybe just subconsciously absorb what you agree with, and ignore the  
rest as "stuff claimed to be fact and true for everyone writing  
everywhere" (which is automatically nonsense :) )?

> I'm open to offering comments (for what they're worth) on
> problems/thoughts/discussions other want to bring in, but when it
> comes to new content which might be even remotely interesting, I'm a
> dry hole.

Oh, I have not written anything new for years probably now, even my  
ramblings chatting with people is just old stuff in new dressing. :P

I'm still stuck in the third book of the Seasons & Elements trilogy, not  
sure how to get to the end, and the problem is probably knowing where it  
should go (the characters decided on a course of action, which will just  
take 20 years, or 15 from the start of the third book).

Mind, I don't know what exactly they're going to do, just that it  
involves people who have to grow up first. (Having bred a special kind  
of people by those able and willing to 'produce' them.)

-- 
"You can't do this! You've got rules!"
"Rules don't apply to those who don't live by them."
                          -- One of the warped ones and Jodra
                Seasons & Elements 2/3: Controlling the Magic

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#42587

On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:49:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
<A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>On 07.09.21, Capuchin@jymes.com  <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:

>> I occasionally post snippets of older stuff on Reddit, hoping a
>> comment or two might spark me into working on it more. Sadly, so far,
>> nothing has struck a chord.
>
>Oh, Reddit. I don't hang out there. A Steam friend mentioned it's an odd  
>place. He asks a question for a build in Terraria, and gets a ton of  
>upvotes, but no reply, or something weird like that.

Reddit has something like fifty different subreddits for writing,
divided by genre, focus, etc., and they're all different.

Your friend doesn't know the old wisdom about any group on the
Internet -- to find out something, you don't ask a question, you post
wrong information. A thousand people who'd never bother helping a
stranger will leap at the chance to show off their expertise.


>Might be better to post your snippets here? :)

I think I sort of wore out my welcome doing that some years ago.Then,
as now, I was searching through my old stuff, trying to find which (if
any) might be worth working on again. It was lively for a very short
while but quickly petered out.

Capuchin

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#42589

On 08.09.21, Capuchin@jymes.com  <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:49:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
> <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
>> On 07.09.21, Capuchin@jymes.com  <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:

>>> I occasionally post snippets of older stuff on Reddit, hoping a
>>> comment or two might spark me into working on it more. Sadly, so
>>> far, nothing has struck a chord.
>>
>> Oh, Reddit. I don't hang out there. A Steam friend mentioned it's an
>> odd place. He asks a question for a build in Terraria, and gets a
>> ton of upvotes, but no reply, or something weird like that.

> Reddit has something like fifty different subreddits for writing,
> divided by genre, focus, etc., and they're all different.

I think that'd be too awkward for me, never mind that forums online are  
like the wheel re-invented, square, compared to Usenet newsgroups all- 
comfort spaceflight.

> Your friend doesn't know the old wisdom about any group on the
> Internet -- to find out something, you don't ask a question, you post
> wrong information. A thousand people who'd never bother helping a
> stranger will leap at the chance to show off their expertise.

Lol.

How do you translate that to needing inspiration for a building in  
Terraria? (A game where you - among other things - can place blocks you  
craft or find to build whatever you like. If curious you can search for  
"Terraria builds houses" images. My friend doesn't want to build a  
typical house or castle, and use up a particular kind of block he has  
too many of.)

>> Might be better to post your snippets here? :)

> I think I sort of wore out my welcome doing that some years ago.Then,
> as now, I was searching through my old stuff, trying to find which
> (if any) might be worth working on again. It was lively for a very
> short while but quickly petered out.

Not much going on here for years I think, could be a welcome change to  
the quiet.

I can add bits from the stories I started that never got anywhere, maybe  
alternate one you one I, per week? :)

-- 
(Scavor) "And take that Priest with you, before he decides to bargain away
this funny house to the next passing Air Lord. He gave my kids away already."
"I thought sharing meant giving away." Ghorsta said, grinning.
"Next time make your own first."                    -- Seasons & Elements 3/3

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#42593

On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 21:28:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
<A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>Not much going on here for years I think, could be a welcome change to  
>the quiet.
>
>I can add bits from the stories I started that never got anywhere, maybe  
>alternate one you one I, per week? :)

I just realized I don't remember the rules for posting, i.e. word
count limit, any restrictions on content, etc..

The only thing I'm even mildly interested in writing now is a treatise
on how social changes have affected the regular moving/reinvention of
immortals through the ages (e.g. 3rd Century -- just walk a week in
any direction, and no one will suspect you're older than you look, but
you can't have more wealth than you can carry; 21st Century -- can
just move across the city and huge fortunes transferred
electronically, but you have to forge a new biometric identity).

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#42594

In article <rtbojgdnlqh38lriulq1vn46pjfp3p6i7v@4ax.com>,
 <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 21:28:00 +0200, "A. Tina Hall"
><A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
>
>>Not much going on here for years I think, could be a welcome change to  
>>the quiet.
>>
>>I can add bits from the stories I started that never got anywhere, maybe  
>>alternate one you one I, per week? :)
>
>I just realized I don't remember the rules for posting, i.e. word
>count limit, any restrictions on content, etc..

The topic is the writing of SFF, and whatever leads to it.
I would say  the limit is no more than a couple of screensful.
>
>The only thing I'm even mildly interested in writing now is a treatise
>on how social changes have affected the regular moving/reinvention of
>immortals through the ages (e.g. 3rd Century -- just walk a week in
>any direction, and no one will suspect you're older than you look, but
>you can't have more wealth than you can carry; 21st Century -- can
>just move across the city and huge fortunes transferred
>electronically, but you have to forge a new biometric identity).

Sound like an interesting concept, and I for one don't remember
encountering it--not recently, anyway.  Go for it.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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#42595

On 11.09.21, Capuchin@jymes.com  <Capuchin@jymes.com> wrote:
> "A. Tina Hall" <A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:

>> Not much going on here for years I think, could be a welcome change
>> to the quiet.
>>
>> I can add bits from the stories I started that never got anywhere,
>> maybe alternate one you one I, per week? :)

> I just realized I don't remember the rules for posting, i.e. word
> count limit, any restrictions on content, etc..

https://08178546353632033857.googlegroups.com/attach/4ab278005806a/ 
rasfcfaq.txt?part=0&view=1&view=1&vt=ANaJVrFgnDE-XY1- 
DDtzdPJiYesG0G208TVxdrd_Xc_pJ_gyiRW-e9c9N5ed1kDhw5WBN- 
m45yXfbatRjf7MvRVxkikIMaAyNVYE7pfGqcq5Wg-WBpX1UF8

Recent posted FAQ, says a few paragraphs for specific questions, or 500  
words with CRIT in the subject for general critique for a WiP

Why does google show it as an attachment though, it's part of the  
message here!

> The only thing I'm even mildly interested in writing now is a
> treatise on how social changes have affected the regular
> moving/reinvention of immortals through the ages (e.g. 3rd Century --
> just walk a week in any direction, and no one will suspect you're
> older than you look, but you can't have more wealth than you can
> carry; 21st Century -- can just move across the city and huge
> fortunes transferred electronically, but you have to forge a new
> biometric identity).

Heh, interesting thought.

I'd digress into something else though. If immortals have been around  
all the time, why are they hiding, how could they not be known. And in  
the end, how could it be the same world with them around? (I have that  
problem with every story that puts magic or other non-real things into  
our world.)

Whatever any additions brought to Earth's inhabitants would have had to  
have changed history at some point and branched off a different  
timeline. So I need an explanation on why it looks the same despite  
that.

-- 
(Lanar) Maybe you should go after them to make sure he doesn't run off with our
mother." - "He has quite enough Breeders of his own." Aranar pointed out, then
smiled. "Besides, he'd send her back after a day at most, after she confused him
enough to think he's a Magic Priest."                  -- Seasons & Elements 2/3

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