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  META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> - 2026-05-14 02:12 +0000
    Re: META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 17:19 +0000
      Re: META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> - 2026-05-14 17:39 +0000
        Re: META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 18:54 +0000

#17104 — META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list

Gmail has started bouncing messages from the racc mailing list that echoes
the newsgroup. As usual for Gmail, there is no hint as to why and nothing
has changed about how the list works, and of course there's no usable
contact information.

I have reconfigured the list to make sure that it always rewrites From
headers because I noticed that one of the bounces had a Gmail address in
the From header. Not sure why the DMARC handling code didn't handle that,
since things going to Gmail should always be rewritten, but maybe this
will fix it?

There are various things that I know I could do to sign messages from the
mailing list but I have almost no time to work on it, so in practice I'm
not sure how much I'm going to be able to do to solve this problem if that
doesn't work.

Hopefully affected people will see this in the newsgroup or mailing list
archive somehow.

-- 
Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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#17107

Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
this that they're fine. @@

Drew "so it goes??" Nilium

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#17108

Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:

> Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
> marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
> doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
> this that they're fine. @@

> Drew "so it goes??" Nilium

Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything all
the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully
Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventually
if they're still reading.

Thank you for training their algorithm!

-- 
Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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#17109

On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 1:39 PM Russ Allbery via racc
<racc@lists.eyrie.org> wrote:
>
> Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
> > marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
> > doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
> > this that they're fine. @@
>
> Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything all
> the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully
> Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventually
> if they're still reading.

Hopefully so! :>

> Thank you for training their algorithm!

You're very welcome! n.n

Drew "heck yeah makin' it happen" Nilium

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