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Started byron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage)
First post2015-08-06 08:48 +1000
Last post2015-08-11 10:14 +1000
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  [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] ron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage) - 2015-08-06 08:48 +1000
    Re: [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] bulk88@hotmail.com (bulk88) - 2015-08-09 23:57 -0400
      Re: [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] ron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage) - 2015-08-10 16:20 +1000
      Re: [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] ron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage) - 2015-08-10 17:11 +1000
      Re: [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] dmitry@karasik.eu.org (Dmitry Karasik) - 2015-08-10 09:36 +0200
        Re: [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz] ron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage) - 2015-08-11 10:14 +1000

#29402 — [upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz]

Fromron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage)
Date2015-08-06 08:48 +1000
Subject[upload@pause.perl.org: Failed: PAUSE indexer reportKARASIK/Prima-1.44.tar.gz]
Message-ID<55C292BE.901@savage.net.au>
Hi Dmitry

I personally don't accept the argument that there are special cases 
whereby modules don't need version numbers.

This issue is up to you to fix. It's not up to the PAUSE admins to do this.

Just put something like
our $VERSION = '1.43';
in all your *.pm files.

-- 
Ron Savage - savage.net.au

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#29420

Frombulk88@hotmail.com (bulk88)
Date2015-08-09 23:57 -0400
Message-ID<BLU436-SMTP203951C5FF5F1021A07F07DDF700@phx.gbl>
In reply to#29402
Ron Savage wrote:
> Hi Dmitry
> 
> I personally don't accept the argument that there are special cases 
> whereby modules don't need version numbers.
> 
> This issue is up to you to fix. It's not up to the PAUSE admins to do this.
> 
> Just put something like
> our $VERSION = '1.43';
> in all your *.pm files.
> 

Not everyone agrees with or uses Dist::Zilla. Bumping synchronous 
version numbers is a burden. I'd guess there has to be some way to 
delete a package from PAUSE to reset the version to zero or unknown.

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#29421

Fromron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage)
Date2015-08-10 16:20 +1000
Message-ID<55C842BC.9060908@savage.net.au>
In reply to#29420
Hi bulk88

On 10/08/15 13:57, bulk88 wrote:
> Ron Savage wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry
>>
>> I personally don't accept the argument that there are special cases
>> whereby modules don't need version numbers.
>>
>> This issue is up to you to fix. It's not up to the PAUSE admins to do
>> this.
>>
>> Just put something like
>> our $VERSION = '1.43';
>> in all your *.pm files.
>>
>
> Not everyone agrees with or uses Dist::Zilla. Bumping synchronous
> version numbers is a burden. I'd guess there has to be some way to
> delete a package from PAUSE to reset the version to zero or unknown.

I certainly don't use Dist::Zilla.

-- 
Ron Savage - savage.net.au

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#29422

Fromron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage)
Date2015-08-10 17:11 +1000
Message-ID<55C84EA1.6060608@savage.net.au>
In reply to#29420
And see https://gist.github.com/ronsavage/f92ba3d3b235d3d17562.

All it takes is a tiny bit of effort to format the version line as I 
suggested.

On 10/08/15 13:57, bulk88 wrote:
> Ron Savage wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry
>>
>> I personally don't accept the argument that there are special cases
>> whereby modules don't need version numbers.
>>
>> This issue is up to you to fix. It's not up to the PAUSE admins to do
>> this.
>>
>> Just put something like
>> our $VERSION = '1.43';
>> in all your *.pm files.
>>
>
> Not everyone agrees with or uses Dist::Zilla. Bumping synchronous
> version numbers is a burden. I'd guess there has to be some way to
> delete a package from PAUSE to reset the version to zero or unknown.

-- 
Ron Savage - savage.net.au

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#29424

Fromdmitry@karasik.eu.org (Dmitry Karasik)
Date2015-08-10 09:36 +0200
Message-ID<20150810073646.GB9688@karasik2>
In reply to#29420
Ron,

With all respect, I believe it is fundamentally wrong to impose your personal
preferences about how to version modules to the whole community. There is no
such thing as to "modules need version number" official guideline for module
writers, and I believe it should stays so.

And don't take just my word to it. Here's one of perl flagship modules,
Catalyst, for example.  The only place where version is declared is in the main
module file. And there's so many many others.

We can definitely discuss that it would be a better scheme for versioning in
the future though, but as for now I certainly don't agree with you that it is
up for me to fix the problem.

Sincerely,
Dmitry

On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 11:57:14PM -0400, bulk88 wrote:
> Ron Savage wrote:
> > Hi Dmitry
> > 
> > I personally don't accept the argument that there are special cases 
> > whereby modules don't need version numbers.
> > 
> > This issue is up to you to fix. It's not up to the PAUSE admins to do this.
> > 
> > Just put something like
> > our $VERSION = '1.43';
> > in all your *.pm files.
> > 
> 
> Not everyone agrees with or uses Dist::Zilla. Bumping synchronous 
> version numbers is a burden. I'd guess there has to be some way to 
> delete a package from PAUSE to reset the version to zero or unknown.

-- 
Sincerely,
	Dmitry Karasik
F

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#29428

Fromron@savage.net.au (Ron Savage)
Date2015-08-11 10:14 +1000
Message-ID<55C93E73.9010605@savage.net.au>
In reply to#29424
Hi Dmitry

On 10/08/15 17:36, Dmitry Karasik wrote:
> Ron,
>
> With all respect, I believe it is fundamentally wrong to impose your personal

"impose"! Hahaha.

-- 
Ron Savage - savage.net.au

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