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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-06-19 03:31 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-06-20 21:42 +1200 |
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“Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-19 03:31 +0000
Re: “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-06-19 16:18 +1200
Re: Federation Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-06-22 01:24 +0000
Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations BR <blah@blah.blah> - 2026-06-19 18:38 +1200
Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-06-20 07:39 +0000
Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-06-21 13:20 +1200
Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations Average Joe <average.joe@maildrop.ue> - 2026-06-20 21:42 +1200
| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 03:31 +0000 |
| Subject | “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <1112d5s$3276m$1@dont-email.me> |
Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody: how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions, where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct? <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/>
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| From | Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 16:18 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <qcg93l57k1e81korn2f832ioup4p9795u3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #339735 |
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country >to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style >monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody: >how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions, >where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct? > ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/> Under Headstart each council has an opportunity to get together with other nearby councils and put together an amalgamation proposal. I am sure that those who want it could use a 'Federation' approach, or any other approach. Auckland Council is not a model IMHO - the scale was too big. In my neck of the woods in Northland, all councils north of Auckland will be merged into one serving a combined population of around 200,000. That's is a vastly different proposition compared to Auckland Council with 1.7 million people. -- Crash McBash
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| From | Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 01:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Federation Model For Local-Council Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <n9rh78Flan0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #339736 |
On 2026-06-19, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D´Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >>Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country >>to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style >>monolithic supercity model may not be the best option for everybody: >>how about forming a federation of councils in particular regions, >>where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct? >> >><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/> > > Under Headstart each council has an opportunity to get together with > other nearby councils and put together an amalgamation proposal. I am > sure that those who want it could use a 'Federation' approach, or any > other approach. > > Auckland Council is not a model IMHO - the scale was too big. In my > neck of the woods in Northland, all councils north of Auckland will be > merged into one serving a combined population of around 200,000. > That's is a vastly different proposition compared to Auckland Council > with 1.7 million people. > It is not only the population size it is also the area, and to some extent the the number of small towns in the super sized areas.
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| From | BR <blah@blah.blah> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 18:38 +1200 |
| Subject | Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <8so93l52i1rrt2c12cpsrjc2jfa7j1hci9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #339735 |
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country >to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style >monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody: >how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions, >where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct? > ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/> The Auckland council has been an unprecedented disaster. The more power is concentrated, the worse it gets. Bill. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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| From | wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 07:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <6a364191.1390618812@news.bbs.nz> |
| In reply to | #339737 |
Small councils have already been sharing their engineering talents around, but this sudden order to consolidate was a bit of a shock. I've not heard much resistance, though. Maybe the writing was already on the wall.
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| From | Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 13:20 +1200 |
| Subject | Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <atee3lh414oqk2cfsk0df3jheagfuh3c2m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #339738 |
On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 07:39:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote: >Small councils have already been sharing their engineering talents >around, but this sudden order to consolidate was a bit of a shock. >I've not heard much resistance, though. Maybe the writing was already >on the wall. > The writing is on the wall. Councils have been told to put forward amalgamation plans with other councils that are part of an existing regional council. If they don't, the Government will create a plan for them. Retaining the status quo is not an available option. -- Crash McBash
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| From | Average Joe <average.joe@maildrop.ue> |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 21:42 +1200 |
| Subject | Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations |
| Message-ID | <XftZR.3$4lt3.1@fx15.ams4> |
| In reply to | #339737 |
BR wrote: > The Auckland council has been an unprecedented disaster. > The more power is concentrated, the worse it gets. > Bill. The Auckland Council is a product of the Fifth National Government. The Fifth National Government gave ACT member Rodney Hide the job of driving it through. Rodney was backstabbed by his own ACT party six months after the Auckland Council was established. The leadership challenge said his brand was now "toxic".
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