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“Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2026-06-19 03:31 +0000
Last post2026-06-20 21:42 +1200
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  “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-19 03:31 +0000
    Re: “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-06-19 16:18 +1200
      Re: “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-06-22 01:24 +0000
    Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations BR <blah@blah.blah> - 2026-06-19 18:38 +1200
      Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-06-20 07:39 +0000
        Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-06-21 13:20 +1200
      Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations Average Joe <average.joe@maildrop.ue> - 2026-06-20 21:42 +1200

#339735 — “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-19 03:31 +0000
Subject“Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations
Message-ID<1112d5s$3276m$1@dont-email.me>
Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country
to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style
monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody:
how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions,
where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct?

<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/>

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FromCrash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
Date2026-06-19 16:18 +1200
Message-ID<qcg93l57k1e81korn2f832ioup4p9795u3@4ax.com>
In reply to#339735
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D´Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country
>to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style
>monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody:
>how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions,
>where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct?
>
><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/>

Under Headstart each council has an opportunity to get together with
other nearby councils and put together an amalgamation proposal.  I am
sure that those who want it could use a 'Federation' approach, or any
other approach.

Auckland Council is not a model IMHO - the scale was too big.  In my
neck of the woods in Northland, all councils north of Auckland will be
merged into one serving a combined population of around 200,000.
That's is a vastly different proposition compared to Auckland Council
with 1.7 million people.


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Crash McBash

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#339745 — Re: “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations

FromGordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz>
Date2026-06-22 01:24 +0000
SubjectRe: “Federation” Model For Local-Council Amalgamations
Message-ID<n9rh78Flan0U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#339736
On 2026-06-19, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D´Oliveiro
><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country
>>to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style
>>monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody:
>>how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions,
>>where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct?
>>
>><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/>
>
> Under Headstart each council has an opportunity to get together with
> other nearby councils and put together an amalgamation proposal.  I am
> sure that those who want it could use a 'Federation' approach, or any
> other approach.
>
> Auckland Council is not a model IMHO - the scale was too big.  In my
> neck of the woods in Northland, all councils north of Auckland will be
> merged into one serving a combined population of around 200,000.
> That's is a vastly different proposition compared to Auckland Council
> with 1.7 million people.
>
It is not only the population size it is also the area, and to some extent
the the number of small towns in the super sized areas.

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#339737 — Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations

FromBR <blah@blah.blah>
Date2026-06-19 18:38 +1200
SubjectRe: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations
Message-ID<8so93l52i1rrt2c12cpsrjc2jfa7j1hci9@4ax.com>
In reply to#339735
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DÿOliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>Central Government is nudging local councils up and down the country
>to merge operations. But some are suggesting that the Auckland-style
>monolithic “supercity” model may not be the best option for everybody:
>how about forming a “federation” of councils in particular regions,
>where they agree to share some operations, but keep others distinct?
>
><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/local-government-amalgamation-ruapehu-mayor-weston-kirton-backs-federation-model-as-head-start-deadline-looms/DU7SGQQKKZFGXCAR4ECCOVLMEM/>

The Auckland council has been an unprecedented disaster.

The more power is concentrated, the worse it gets. 

Bill.

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#339738 — Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations

Fromwn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly)
Date2026-06-20 07:39 +0000
SubjectRe: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations
Message-ID<6a364191.1390618812@news.bbs.nz>
In reply to#339737
Small councils have already been sharing their engineering talents
around, but this sudden order to consolidate was a bit of a shock.
I've not heard much resistance, though.  Maybe the writing was already
on the wall.    
  

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#339741 — Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations

FromCrash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
Date2026-06-21 13:20 +1200
SubjectRe: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations
Message-ID<atee3lh414oqk2cfsk0df3jheagfuh3c2m@4ax.com>
In reply to#339738
On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 07:39:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

>Small councils have already been sharing their engineering talents
>around, but this sudden order to consolidate was a bit of a shock.
>I've not heard much resistance, though.  Maybe the writing was already
>on the wall.    
>
The writing is on the wall.  Councils have been told to put forward
amalgamation plans with other councils  that are part of an existing
regional council.  If they don't, the Government will create a plan
for them.  Retaining the status quo is not an available option.  


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#339739 — Re: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations

FromAverage Joe <average.joe@maildrop.ue>
Date2026-06-20 21:42 +1200
SubjectRe: Federation Model For Local Coundil Amalgamations
Message-ID<XftZR.3$4lt3.1@fx15.ams4>
In reply to#339737
BR wrote:

> The Auckland council has been an unprecedented disaster.
> The more power is concentrated, the worse it gets.
> Bill.

The Auckland Council is a product of the Fifth National Government.

The Fifth National Government gave ACT member Rodney Hide the job of
driving it through. Rodney was backstabbed by his own ACT party six
months after the Auckland Council was established. The leadership
challenge said his brand was now "toxic".

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