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  Covid vaccination debate Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2026-04-04 20:23 +0000
    Re: Covid vaccination debate Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-05 12:45 +1200
      Re: Covid vaccination debate wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-04-05 01:11 +0000
        Re: Covid vaccination debate Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 01:52 +0000
          Re: Covid vaccination debate Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2026-04-05 02:29 +0000
          Re: Covid vaccination debate wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-04-05 03:23 +0000
    Re: Covid vaccination debate Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-04-05 03:54 +0000
      Re: Covid vaccination debate wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-04-05 04:59 +0000
    Re: Covid vaccination debate Branch Covidian <branch@covidian.virus> - 2026-04-05 06:52 +0000

#339637 — Covid vaccination debate

This isn't goping away any time soon.
https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That 
in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, 
the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.

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#339641

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>This isn't goping away any time soon.
>https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
>How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That 
>in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, 
>the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.

What  a pity Rich wasn't  here . It would be interesting to hear  his
protection of one of his gods. 

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#339642

On Sun, 05 Apr 2026, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What  a pity Rich wasn't  here . It would be interesting to hear  his
>protection of one of his gods. 

Lefties ignore facts, they just make up their own.  He'd do that.
    

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#339643

On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

> Lefties ignore facts ...

The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people,
isn’t it?

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#339644

Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
>
>> Lefties ignore facts ...
>
>The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people,
>isn’t it?
Start your own thread, this one is not about science.

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#339645

On Sun, 5 Apr 2026, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
>> Lefties ignore facts ...
>
>The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people,
>isn’t it?

As though you know anything about science.  I can guess what you think
science is, it's what Feynman called "Cargo Cult Science" where you
have forms but no substance.  
Climate change?  check.  Cargo cult science.
Covid vaccine?  check.  Cargo cult science.
Water fluoridisation?  check.  Cargo cult science.

Feynman explains that *actual* science must follow the scientific
method, which none of the above do.  So what is the scientific method?
I'm going to tease you -- I won't tell you.  Dupe.  
 

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#339646

On 2026-04-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> This isn't goping away any time soon.
> https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
> How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That 
> in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, 
> the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.

Politicans seldom say thay have made a mistake and say they are sorry. It is
the nature of the beast.

As the covid years wore on it became clear that the Government had only one
tool in their tool box. Get a another booster. They never kept any doors open 
to allow real world development.

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#339647

On 5 Apr 2026 03:54:40 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>As the covid years wore on it became clear that the Government had only one
>tool in their tool box. Get a another booster. They never kept any doors open 
>to allow real world development.

Quite right, or as I posted on 20-Aug-2021:

"21st century logic:  When Plan A (vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate)
fails, redouble on Plan A !  When Plan AA fails, go to Plan AAA !!  

Never consider other plans, like Plan B -- no no no.  

How about Plan D -- catch Delta COVID, which will give you the best
immunity of all: Natural Immunity.  That way, when the brutal "Xi"
variant arrives, your excellent natural immunity will protect you and
you'll get minor sniffles only.   

Or Plan H -- hope that Xi never happens.   Hope hope hope...

Then there's Plan X -- catch the Xi COVID infection, the monster.  
Bad plan?  It's the same as Plan A. "  
 

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#339649

Viruses don't exist. They are the biggest scam in history--even bigger scam than the fake moon missions.

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