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Re: Gun supplier claims he's been scapegoated by Alec Baldwin and others on 'Rust' set

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:26:16 -0500
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 21:53:08 -0000 (UTC), "Archbishop Stinkfinger,
> Queens" <astinkfinger@nyc.rcc.org> wrote:
> 
> >https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-supplier-lawsuit-alec-baldwin-
> >rust-rcna241094
> >
> >The man who supplied guns and blank ammo to makers of the ill-fated 
> >Western film "Rust"  
> *yawn*
> 
> Who cares?
> 
> NP:  Alexander Titov: St. Petersberg Chamber Orchestra - Bizet: Carmen
> Suite #1 - 5. Les Dragons D'Alcala

Maybe you do...RUDEy...

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.survivalism/c/O_95Kh78WUM

onathan Ball 5327 Shepard Avenue, Sacramento, CA95819-1731, USA
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Derek
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Nov 28, 2015, 12:38:34 PM
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http://www.whitepages.com/name/Jonathan-D-Ball/Sacramento-CA/2sind2i

This little squirt who posts under a great number of nyms
http://bit.ly/1MU8oan boasts about having a Ph. D. in economics and goes
around threatening people with physical violence, and so he should be made
known to you here in alt.california and his other main haunts because he
often tries to make fellow participants known to their fellow participants.
The list of nyms he uses, often multiple times to argue and defeat himself
in a bid to feel triumphant, is far from complete and is still growing.

Jonathan Ball (real name)
Citizen
Benfez
Wilson Woods
Radical Moderate
Bingo
Edward
George
Bill
Fred
Mystery Poster
Merlin the dog
Bob the dog
sil...@onairos.com
elvira
Dieter
"Dieter d.Sc...@deutsche_telekom.de"
<prickerbush2...@yahoo.com>
Abner Hale
Roger Whitaker
Fucktard
Apoo
Ted Bell
notgen...@yahoo.com
Jay Santos
mortons.steakho...@chicago.not
Rudy Canoza
Trappist
sb29...@yahoo.com
Leif Erikson
S. Maizlich
SlipperySlope
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Nov 28, 2015, 4:40:38 PM
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:08:10 -0800 (PST), DCI <50b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>And when you, Derek, have to go to such length to attempt to discredit Rudy, you are actually discrediting your self, all, without refuting any of his points and arguments,

No, that's false. I haven't refuted any points or argument here because he
hasn't presented any to me. I merely followed him over here because he won't
defend himself in the newsgroup he usually trolls where he's been dodging
people, including myself, for fifteen years.

>Now can your post any personal information about you

You need only go to the newsgroup I've been posting regularly from for
nearly fifteen years, with my full name in the legitimate email address I
use at alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian to see that Jonathan was the first to
reveal my email address today after being pressured by me to come
clean about the lies he's been spreading about having gained a Ph. D. in
economics. Sure, my full address has been posted there before and I have no
problem with that. Jonathan, on the other hand, hides behind a growing list
of nyms to keep his identity secret while posting the details of others. I'm
certainly not the first person who's identity and personal home address has
been revealed by him, and I definitely won't be the last. If he wants to
make a new post with my full name and address as the subject title, he
should expect the same in return. Now that you're aware he posted my
particulars in the subject headers before I retaliated are you going to say
that he has discredited himself more than me by doing such a thing?

>and how you arrive at the drivel you are posting?

I haven't been posting any drivel. To dodge explaining why he lied about his
academic achievements, or lack of them, he tried to turn the tables by
writing that I "clumsily pretend to a level of education and
sophistication [I] don't have, striving earnestly for good marks
It's fake - but also funny. It's also sad, because it bespeaks a
massive insecurity." That's simply not true. I haven't boasted about my
academic achievements. There's nothing really to boast about. Jon, though,
has lied about his, and the proof is found in Google archives, no matter how
strongly he resents it. Years ago he often used to state that he tried but
failed to complete a Ph. D. program in economics at UCLA.

“For the record, I did not complete my Ph.D. program
in economics at UCLA, and I have never worked as an
economist.”
Jonathan Ball 8 Nov 2002 http://tinyurl.com/53e2m2

and

"... it's important to me to be known as honest. Honesty
compels me to admit that I didn't complete my Ph.D."
Jonathan Ball 08 Jun 2003 http://bit.ly/1NdkK0O

Fair enough. No problem, though I did doubt that honesty compelled him to do
anything. But then I found posts he's made in Google archives pretending the
exact opposite, stating under no uncertain terms that he had in fact gained
something which honesty compelled him to deny he'd achieved.

[start – Doug Miller to Jonathon Ball]

> What do you have?

Ph.D. economics, UCLA. You?
[end]
Leif Erickson (Jonathan Ball) 8 July 2006 http://tinyurl.com/48w68m

And

[start - "Fooled By Folksy Republicans" to Jonathan Ball

> So you're a drop-out

Nope. Ph.D. in economics; UCLA.]
Rudy Canoza (Jonathan Ball 9 Jan 2007 http://tinyurl.com/yztzj7x

And so it is Jonathan, not I who "clumsily pretend to a level of education
and sophistication [he doesn't] have, striving earnestly for good marks
It's fake - but also funny. It's also sad, because it bespeaks a massive
insecurity." Hope that helps.
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newsman
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Nov 28, 2015, 5:41:52 PM
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Better go check his group. Derek is right. Jonathan Ball did start a
thread with Derek's home address about an hour before he retaliated.
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Gun supplier claims he's been scapegoated by Alec Baldwin and others on 'Rust' set "Archbishop Stinkfinger, Queens" <astinkfinger@nyc.rcc.org> - 2025-10-31 21:53 +0000
  Re: Gun supplier claims he's been scapegoated by Alec Baldwin and others on 'Rust' set Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 16:26 -0500
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