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(Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil)

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First post2026-06-11 15:32 +0000
Last post2026-06-13 17:26 +0000
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  (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil) "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-11 15:32 +0000
    Re: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil) "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-11 15:49 +0000
      Re: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil) Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-06-11 21:09 -0700
        Re: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil) Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-12 08:31 +0000
          Re: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil) HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-13 17:12 +0000
    Is Narkive down? (was: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) blah blah blah) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-11 16:34 -0500
       Narkive -- UsenetArchives.com -- NPR (CarTalk) Puzzler HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-13 17:26 +0000

#37545 — (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil)

From"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh>
Date2026-06-11 15:32 +0000
Subject(Newsgrouper, CsiPh) ------ camel, humps ------ (chaise, fauteuil)
Message-ID<6a2ad4f6.dab885296489703c@csiph.com>
https://rec.puzzles.narkive.com/ <---- Is this site dead?
                      (this last Slash in URL always  seemed  stupid)



https://newsgrouper.org/alt.usage.english

https://csiph.com/group/alt.usage.english
https://csiph.com/group/rec.puzzles



You tell him about 2 sites (above)

> I had a reply from him on Facebook, and he says he's been having
> computer problems that will not allow him to connect to Usenet. 
> 
>>>  Pity.  I thought he had solved that problem and had established a
                non-Google Groups access.


_______________________

some French speakers  insist that

              Un dromadaire n'est pas un chameau

and Spanish speakers agree:

              Un dromedario no es un camello

       -------is this a matter of  2 humps vs. 1 ?


Yes, the number of humps is the most visible difference. The dromedary
has one hump, while the standard camel (the Bactrian camel) has two.


_________________

The French distinguishes between 
chaise (a standard dining-style chair) and 
fauteuil (an armchair with armrests).

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#37546

From"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh>
Date2026-06-11 15:49 +0000
Message-ID<6a2ad8ec.c115b857af864da5@csiph.com>
In reply to#37545
> 
> https://rec.puzzles.narkive.com/ <---- Is this site dead?
>                       (this last Slash in URL always  seemed  stupid)
> 
> 
> 
> https://newsgrouper.org/alt.usage.english
> 
> https://csiph.com/group/alt.usage.english
> https://csiph.com/group/rec.puzzles
> 


I dont know why CsiPh  doesn't convert these into live links.

I also still don't know what these 4 buttons are for --> [http] [https]
[nntp] [nntps]



 
> You  can(might)   tell him about 2 sites (above)
> 
> > I had a reply from him on Facebook, and he says he's been having
> > computer problems that will not allow him to connect to Usenet. 
> > 
> >>>  Pity.  I thought he had solved that problem and had established a                 non-Google Groups access.
> 
> 
> _______________________
> 
> some French speakers  insist that
> 
>               Un dromadaire n'est pas un chameau
> 
> and Spanish speakers agree:
> 
>               Un dromedario no es un camello
> 
>        -------is this a matter of  2 humps vs. 1 ?
> 
> 
> Yes, the number of humps is the most visible difference. The dromedary
> has one hump, while the standard camel (the Bactrian camel) has two.


單峰駝 / 单峰驼 (dān fēng tuó): Dromedary (one-humped)
雙峰駝 / 双峰驼 (shuāng fēng tuó): Bactrian (two-humped)


ヒトコブラクダ (一瘤駱駝) (hitokobu-rakuda): Dromedary
(one-humped)
フタコブラクダ (双峰駱駝) (futakobu-rakuda): Bactrian
(two-humped)

 
> _________________
> 
> The French distinguishes between 
> chaise (a standard dining-style chair) and 
> fauteuil (an armchair with armrests).
> 



French:       Chaussure (shoe)     vs.    Botte (boot).

German:         Schuh (shoe)       vs.    Stiefel (boot).


Un Baiser (Noun) vs. Baiser (Verb)


Jouir vs. Profiter:        Online translation tools often mistranslate
"to enjoy" as jouir. While historically it meant to enjoy, modern French
uses jouir almost exclusively to mean to cum / reach orgasm. If you want
to say you enjoyed a meal or a movie, you must use profiter or aimer.



Faire l'amour vs. Niquer:         French separates the emotional act
from the purely physical. Faire l'amour is the standard, polite term for
making love. 
          Niquer or baiser are the harsh, slang equivalents for fucking.



Une fellation vs. Une pipe:         French switches terms heavily based
on register. The clinical, medical term for oral sex on a man is une
fellation, while the ubiquitous, everyday street slang is une pipe.

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#37548

FromKevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
Date2026-06-11 21:09 -0700
Message-ID<110g0po$238i$1@csiph.com>
In reply to#37546
On 6/11/26 08:49, HenHanna wrote:
> 
>>
>> https://rec.puzzles.narkive.com/ <---- Is this site dead?
>>                        (this last Slash in URL always  seemed  stupid)
>>
>>
>>
>> https://newsgrouper.org/alt.usage.english
>>
>> https://csiph.com/group/alt.usage.english
>> https://csiph.com/group/rec.puzzles
>>
> 
> 
> I dont know why CsiPh  doesn't convert these into live links.

It's a security thing, the feed is truly plain text.

Promoting anything to outbound links opens the site up as a target for 
SEO farming, Phishing, etc.  On a modern browser you can highlight the 
link text and "Open link" from right click.

> 
> I also still don't know what these 4 buttons are for --> [http] [https]
> [nntp] [nntps]

HTTP is no encryption (for old machines), HTTPS is encryption (modern 
browsers).

NNTP is for external reader software installed on your machine.  NNTPS 
is the same with modern encryption.

> 
>   
>> You  can(might)   tell him about 2 sites (above)
>>
>>> I had a reply from him on Facebook, and he says he's been having
>>> computer problems that will not allow him to connect to Usenet.
>>>
>>>>>   Pity.  I thought he had solved that problem and had established a                 non-Google Groups access.
>>
>>
>> _______________________
>>
>> some French speakers  insist that
>>
>>                Un dromadaire n'est pas un chameau
>>
>> and Spanish speakers agree:
>>
>>                Un dromedario no es un camello
>>
>>         -------is this a matter of  2 humps vs. 1 ?
>>
>>
>> Yes, the number of humps is the most visible difference. The dromedary
>> has one hump, while the standard camel (the Bactrian camel) has two.
> 
> 
> 單峰駝 / 单峰驼 (dān fēng tuó): Dromedary (one-humped)
> 雙峰駝 / 双峰驼 (shuāng fēng tuó): Bactrian (two-humped)
> 
> 
> ヒトコブラクダ (一瘤駱駝) (hitokobu-rakuda): Dromedary
> (one-humped)
> フタコブラクダ (双峰駱駝) (futakobu-rakuda): Bactrian
> (two-humped)
> 
>   
>> _________________
>>
>> The French distinguishes between
>> chaise (a standard dining-style chair) and
>> fauteuil (an armchair with armrests).
>>
> 
> 
> 
> French:       Chaussure (shoe)     vs.    Botte (boot).
> 
> German:         Schuh (shoe)       vs.    Stiefel (boot).
> 
> 
> Un Baiser (Noun) vs. Baiser (Verb)
> 
> 
> Jouir vs. Profiter:        Online translation tools often mistranslate
> "to enjoy" as jouir. While historically it meant to enjoy, modern French
> uses jouir almost exclusively to mean to cum / reach orgasm. If you want
> to say you enjoyed a meal or a movie, you must use profiter or aimer.
> 
> 
> 
> Faire l'amour vs. Niquer:         French separates the emotional act
> from the purely physical. Faire l'amour is the standard, polite term for
> making love.
>            Niquer or baiser are the harsh, slang equivalents for fucking.
> 
> 
> 
> Une fellation vs. Une pipe:         French switches terms heavily based
> on register. The clinical, medical term for oral sex on a man is une
> fellation, while the ubiquitous, everyday street slang is une pipe.
> 
> 

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#37551

FromColin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2026-06-12 08:31 +0000
Message-ID<1781253119-7@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#37548
Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> posted:

> On 6/11/26 08:49, HenHanna wrote:
> > 
> >> https://newsgrouper.org/alt.usage.english
> >>
> >> https://csiph.com/group/alt.usage.english
> >> https://csiph.com/group/rec.puzzles
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I dont know why CsiPh  doesn't convert these into live links.
> 
> It's a security thing, the feed is truly plain text.
> 
> Promoting anything to outbound links opens the site up as a target for 
> SEO farming, Phishing, etc.  On a modern browser you can highlight the 
> link text and "Open link" from right click.

In Newsgrouper I do make such links clickable.  But to guard against
misuse I require the user to login, at least as a guest, before they
can get past the login page.  That keeps out indexers, AI scrapers etc.

-- 
Colin Macleod ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ https://cmacleod.me.uk

FEED    HOUSE   SAVE    FEED    HOUSE   SAVE    FEED    HOUSE   SAVE
GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA    GAZA
NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!    NOW!

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#37556

FromHenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2026-06-13 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<1781370724-4055@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#37551
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

> Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> posted:
> 
> > On 6/11/26 08:49, HenHanna wrote:
> > > 
> > >> https://newsgrouper.org/alt.usage.english
> > >>
> > >> https://csiph.com/group/alt.usage.english
> > >> https://csiph.com/group/rec.puzzles
> > >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I dont know why CsiPh  doesn't convert these into live links.
> > 
> > It's a security thing, the feed is truly plain text.
> > 
> > Promoting anything to outbound links opens the site up as a target for 
> > SEO farming, Phishing, etc.  On a modern browser you can highlight the 
> > link text and "Open link" from right click.
> 
> In Newsgrouper I do make such links clickable.  But to guard against
> misuse I require the user to login, at least as a guest, before they
> can get past the login page.  That keeps out indexers, AI scrapers etc.
> 

thank you....

Some obvious Advantages of Newsgrouper are

-- live links
-- Rot13

-- recognizable naming   (unlike  Csiph)

-- my browser lets me in login automatically

(Maybe a little faster  when i'm posting)

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#37547 — Is Narkive down? (was: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) blah blah blah)

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2026-06-11 16:34 -0500
SubjectIs Narkive down? (was: (Newsgrouper, CsiPh) blah blah blah)
Message-ID<3g46ej87woht.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#37545
HenHanna <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> wrote:

> https://rec.puzzles.narkive.com/ <---- Is this site dead?
>                       (this last Slash in URL always  seemed  stupid)

NOTE: I'm only replying to this inquiry in HenHanna's multiple-issue
article, so I excluded the unrelated newsgroups of alt.usage.english &
alt.english.usage in my reply.

Yes, narkive.com is down.  I'm not sure for how long, but it looks to be
many days if not for [over] a month.

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/narkive.com.html
"Narkive.com is unavailable.
The website is currently under maintenance..."

https://pulsetic.com/is-website-down/ (enter narkive.com)
"It is down for 100% of the world."
(Checks from 15 worldwide locations. HQ is Reykjavik, Iceland.)

Returns 503 web response code.  The server can be reached, but it is not
responsive.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/503

web.archive.org reports 10 fails (503 error) out of 10 attempts
yesterday (6/10/26).  Back on May 12, they were getting a 429 error
which means the server is overloaded (too busy), or the server is rate
limiting (throttling the number of concurrent connections).  Note that
even archive.org has become increasingly slow, and sometimes fails to
fetch its own archive data.  I was going to walk back through
archive.org's records on narkive.com, but archive.org became
unresponsive (fetch failed), or way to slow for me to bother wasting
time on waiting for it to fetch.

"ping narkive.com" shows no packet loss, but web.archive.org's report
says "503 - No server is available to handle this request."  This led me
to believe archive.org is webhosted (they don't run their own server,
but utilize a web hoster).  I did a "tracert narkive.com" which ended at
a flyio.net domain.  I couldn't ping flyio.net, so either they have it
disabled (ICMP ECHO), or they're unresponsive, too.  Pulsetic's test
says flyio.net is taking too long to respond.  However, I can connect to
https://status.flyio.net/history which shows it's really fly.io, and I
can get to fly.io.  When I go to https://status.flyio.net/uptime, the
Jun 11 square (today) shows "1 component had an outage".  Something
going there, and narkive.com seems hosted there.

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#37557 — Narkive -- UsenetArchives.com -- NPR (CarTalk) Puzzler

FromHenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2026-06-13 17:26 +0000
Subject Narkive -- UsenetArchives.com -- NPR (CarTalk) Puzzler
Message-ID<1781371595-4055@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#37547
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> posted:

> HenHanna <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> wrote:
> 
> > https://rec.puzzles.narkive.com/ <---- Is this site dead?
> >                       (this last Slash in URL always  seemed  stupid)
> 
> NOTE: I'm only replying to this inquiry in HenHanna's multiple-issue
> article, so I excluded the unrelated newsgroups of alt.usage.english &
> alt.english.usage in my reply.
> 
> Yes, narkive.com is down.  I'm not sure for how long, but it looks to be
> many days if not for [over] a month.
> 
> https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/narkive.com.html
> "Narkive.com is unavailable.
> The website is currently under maintenance..."
> 
> https://pulsetic.com/is-website-down/ (enter narkive.com)
> "It is down for 100% of the world."
> (Checks from 15 worldwide locations. HQ is Reykjavik, Iceland.)
> 
> Returns 503 web response code.  The server can be reached, but it is not
> responsive.
> 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/503
> 
> web.archive.org reports 10 fails (503 error) out of 10 attempts
> yesterday (6/10/26).  Back on May 12, they were getting a 429 error
> which means the server is overloaded (too busy), or the server is rate
> limiting (throttling the number of concurrent connections).  Note that
> even archive.org has become increasingly slow, and sometimes fails to
> fetch its own archive data.  I was going to walk back through
> archive.org's records on narkive.com, but archive.org became
> unresponsive (fetch failed), or way to slow for me to bother wasting
> time on waiting for it to fetch.
> 
> "ping narkive.com" shows no packet loss, but web.archive.org's report
> says "503 - No server is available to handle this request."  This led me
> to believe archive.org is webhosted (they don't run their own server,
> but utilize a web hoster).  I did a "tracert narkive.com" which ended at
> a flyio.net domain.  I couldn't ping flyio.net, so either they have it
> disabled (ICMP ECHO), or they're unresponsive, too.  Pulsetic's test
> says flyio.net is taking too long to respond.  However, I can connect to
> https://status.flyio.net/history which shows it's really fly.io, and I
> can get to fly.io.  When I go to https://status.flyio.net/uptime, the
> Jun 11 square (today) shows "1 component had an outage".  Something
> going there, and narkive.com seems hosted there.



Thank you  --- narkive.com is  up today  --- (Can I post from it?)

                 but  NovaBBS is gone

__________________

(A few weeks ago, Some guy on Rec.Puzzles was complaining about  my  LONG lines)

Because Google Groups discontinued its Usenet operations, the most reliable and direct web interfaces to browse and read text-based Usenet newsgroups today are UsenetArchives.com and Narkive.

https://usenetarchives.com/index.php?s=%20%20cartalk%20%20puzzler&t=0&p=1

https://usenetarchives.com/index.php?s=cartalk%20%20puzzler

https://usenetarchives.com/index.php?s=cartalk%20%20puzzler&t=0&p=1

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