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  mailing.* Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-02-18 09:25 +0100
    Re: mailing.* Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-02-19 22:29 -0300
      Re: mailing.* Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-02-20 17:39 +0100
        Re: mailing.* Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-02-20 23:31 -0300
          Re: mailing.* Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-02-21 10:18 +0100

#5107 — mailing.*

Hello!

mailing.* looks like a gateway to certain mailing list. Who maintains
that?
I can't find control files for certain groups there that are on E-S.
E.g. mailing.unix.samba-announce

-- 
kind regards
Marco

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#5108

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

> Hello!
>
> mailing.* looks like a gateway to certain mailing list. Who maintains
> that?

Good question.  I'd love to understand that (and more) too.

> I can't find control files for certain groups there that are on E-S.
> E.g. mailing.unix.samba-announce

What's a control file for a certain group?

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#5109

On 19.02.2025 22:29 Uhr Salvador Mirzo wrote:

> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > mailing.* looks like a gateway to certain mailing list. Who
> > maintains that?  
> 
> Good question.  I'd love to understand that (and more) too.

A gateway is a service that posts messages from a newsgroup to a
mailing list and vice-versa.
Often this is being done with moderated newsgroups.

> > I can't find control files for certain groups there that are on E-S.
> > E.g. mailing.unix.samba-announce  
> 
> What's a control file for a certain group?

TLDR: Control files cause groups to be created or deleted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_message

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#5110

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

> On 19.02.2025 22:29 Uhr Salvador Mirzo wrote:
>
>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
>> 
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > mailing.* looks like a gateway to certain mailing list. Who
>> > maintains that?  
>> 
>> Good question.  I'd love to understand that (and more) too.
>
> A gateway is a service that posts messages from a newsgroup to a
> mailing list and vice-versa.
> Often this is being done with moderated newsgroups.

I'd like to understand better how they work.  For instance, if I have an
NNTP server such as Leafnode and I have a mailing list hosted by qmail,
say, what software would I run to gateway these two systems?

>> > I can't find control files for certain groups there that are on E-S.
>> > E.g. mailing.unix.samba-announce  
>> 
>> What's a control file for a certain group?
>
> TLDR: Control files cause groups to be created or deleted.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_message

But where do you find control files for any group here on E-S?  For
instance, where's the control file for comp.misc, say?  I have no idea
how things work here.

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#5111

On 20.02.2025 23:31 Uhr Salvador Mirzo wrote:

> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
> 
> > On 19.02.2025 22:29 Uhr Salvador Mirzo wrote:
> >  
> >> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
> >>   
> >> > Hello!
> >> >
> >> > mailing.* looks like a gateway to certain mailing list. Who
> >> > maintains that?    
> >> 
> >> Good question.  I'd love to understand that (and more) too.  
> >
> > A gateway is a service that posts messages from a newsgroup to a
> > mailing list and vice-versa.
> > Often this is being done with moderated newsgroups.  
> 
> I'd like to understand better how they work.  For instance, if I have
> an NNTP server such as Leafnode and I have a mailing list hosted by
> qmail, say, what software would I run to gateway these two systems?

IIRC Mailman supports that.
Sendmail supports that too by using aliases piping the mail to rpost.

PS: qmail is dead, I don't recommend running that nowadays.

It also depends on whether the newsgroup is moderated or not. If
moderated, the post needs the Approved-header added before posting it.

Moderated groups cause news servers to send the post to the moderation
address, which is the mailing list address in this case.

> >> > I can't find control files for certain groups there that are on
> >> > E-S. E.g. mailing.unix.samba-announce    
> >> 
> >> What's a control file for a certain group?  
> >
> > TLDR: Control files cause groups to be created or deleted.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_message  
> 
> But where do you find control files for any group here on E-S?  For
> instance, where's the control file for comp.misc, say?  I have no idea
> how things work here.

The ISC archives that on their FTP server:
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/

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Marco

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