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| Started by | Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> |
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| First post | 2017-09-26 01:20 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-09-26 16:40 +0200 |
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[PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-26 01:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2017-09-26 02:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-26 11:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2017-09-26 13:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-09-26 16:40 +0200
| From | Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-26 01:20 +0200 |
| Subject | [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used |
| Message-ID | <utKPp-4Lc-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Before support for the per-inode DAX flag was disabled the XFS the code had an issue where the user couldn't reliably tell whether or not DAX was being used to service page faults and I/O when the DAX mount option was used. In this case each inode within the mounted filesystem started with S_DAX set due to the mount option, but it could be cleared if someone touched the individual inode flag. For example (v4.13 and before): # mount | grep dax /dev/pmem0 on /mnt type xfs (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,dax,inode64,sunit=4096,swidth=4096,noquota) # touch /mnt/a /mnt/b # both files currently use DAX # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* # neither has the DAX inode option set ----------e----- /mnt/a ----------e----- /mnt/b # xfs_io -c "chattr -x" /mnt/a # this clears S_DAX for /mnt/a # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* ----------e----- /mnt/a ----------e----- /mnt/b We end up with both /mnt/a and /mnt/b looking identical from the point of view of the mount option and from lsattr, but one is using DAX and the other is not. Fix this by always doing DAX I/O when either the mount option is set or when the DAX inode flag is set. This means that DAX will always be used for all inodes on a filesystem mounted with -o dax, making the usage reliable and detectable. Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> --- fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c | 11 +++++++++-- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c index 5049e8a..26faeb9 100644 --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c @@ -1013,7 +1013,7 @@ xfs_diflags_to_linux( else inode->i_flags &= ~S_NOATIME; #if 0 /* disabled until the flag switching races are sorted out */ - if (xflags & FS_XFLAG_DAX) + if ((xflags & FS_XFLAG_DAX) || (ip->i_mount->m_flags & XFS_MOUNT_DAX)) inode->i_flags |= S_DAX; else inode->i_flags &= ~S_DAX; @@ -1104,7 +1104,14 @@ xfs_ioctl_setattr_dax_invalidate( return -EINVAL; } - /* If the DAX state is not changing, we have nothing to do here. */ + /* + * If the DAX state is not changing, we have nothing to do here. If + * the DAX mount option was used we will update the DAX inode flag as + * the user requested but we will continue to use DAX for I/O and page + * faults regardless of how the inode flag is set. + */ + if (ip->i_mount->m_flags & XFS_MOUNT_DAX) + return 0; if ((fa->fsx_xflags & FS_XFLAG_DAX) && IS_DAX(inode)) return 0; if (!(fa->fsx_xflags & FS_XFLAG_DAX) && !IS_DAX(inode)) -- 2.9.5
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| From | Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-26 02:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <utLV8-5su-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1739335 |
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote: > Before support for the per-inode DAX flag was disabled the XFS the code had > an issue where the user couldn't reliably tell whether or not DAX was being > used to service page faults and I/O when the DAX mount option was used. In > this case each inode within the mounted filesystem started with S_DAX set > due to the mount option, but it could be cleared if someone touched the > individual inode flag. > > For example (v4.13 and before): > > # mount | grep dax > /dev/pmem0 on /mnt type xfs > (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,dax,inode64,sunit=4096,swidth=4096,noquota) > > # touch /mnt/a /mnt/b # both files currently use DAX > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* # neither has the DAX inode option set > ----------e----- /mnt/a > ----------e----- /mnt/b > > # xfs_io -c "chattr -x" /mnt/a # this clears S_DAX for /mnt/a > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* > ----------e----- /mnt/a > ----------e----- /mnt/b That's really a bug in the lsattr code, yes? If we've cleared the S_DAX flag for the inode, then why is it being reported in lsattr? Or if we failed to clear the S_DAX flag in the 'chattr -x' call, then isn't that the bug that needs fixing? Remember, the whole point of the dax inode flag was to be able to override the mount option setting so that admins could turn off/on dax for the things that didn't/did work with DAX correctly so they didn't need multiple filesystems on pmem to segregate the apps that did/didn't work with DAX... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com
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| From | Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> |
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| Date | 2017-09-26 11:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <utUvo-2W9-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1739404 |
On Tue 26-09-17 09:38:12, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote: > > Before support for the per-inode DAX flag was disabled the XFS the code had > > an issue where the user couldn't reliably tell whether or not DAX was being > > used to service page faults and I/O when the DAX mount option was used. In > > this case each inode within the mounted filesystem started with S_DAX set > > due to the mount option, but it could be cleared if someone touched the > > individual inode flag. > > > > For example (v4.13 and before): > > > > # mount | grep dax > > /dev/pmem0 on /mnt type xfs > > (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,dax,inode64,sunit=4096,swidth=4096,noquota) > > > > # touch /mnt/a /mnt/b # both files currently use DAX > > > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* # neither has the DAX inode option set > > ----------e----- /mnt/a > > ----------e----- /mnt/b > > > > # xfs_io -c "chattr -x" /mnt/a # this clears S_DAX for /mnt/a > > > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* > > ----------e----- /mnt/a > > ----------e----- /mnt/b > > That's really a bug in the lsattr code, yes? If we've cleared the > S_DAX flag for the inode, then why is it being reported in lsattr? > Or if we failed to clear the S_DAX flag in the 'chattr -x' call, > then isn't that the bug that needs fixing? > > Remember, the whole point of the dax inode flag was to be able to > override the mount option setting so that admins could turn off/on > dax for the things that didn't/did work with DAX correctly so they > didn't need multiple filesystems on pmem to segregate the apps that > did/didn't work with DAX... So I think there is some confusion that is created by the fact that whether DAX is used or not is controlled by both a mount option and an inode flag. We could define that "Inode flag always wins" which is what you seem to suggest above but then mount option has no practical effect since on-disk S_DAX flag will always overrule it. Ross suggests that DAX should be used if "Inode flag or mount option is set". Which is similar to how e.g. noatime inode flag works but does not allow to selectively disable DAX. So if we wanted both mount option to work and selective disabling of DAX, we would need three states of inode setting - force DAX, disable DAX, inherit from mount option. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@suse.com> SUSE Labs, CR
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| From | Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-26 13:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <utW49-42r-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1739743 |
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > On Tue 26-09-17 09:38:12, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote: > > > Before support for the per-inode DAX flag was disabled the XFS the code had > > > an issue where the user couldn't reliably tell whether or not DAX was being > > > used to service page faults and I/O when the DAX mount option was used. In > > > this case each inode within the mounted filesystem started with S_DAX set > > > due to the mount option, but it could be cleared if someone touched the > > > individual inode flag. > > > > > > For example (v4.13 and before): > > > > > > # mount | grep dax > > > /dev/pmem0 on /mnt type xfs > > > (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,dax,inode64,sunit=4096,swidth=4096,noquota) > > > > > > # touch /mnt/a /mnt/b # both files currently use DAX > > > > > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* # neither has the DAX inode option set > > > ----------e----- /mnt/a > > > ----------e----- /mnt/b > > > > > > # xfs_io -c "chattr -x" /mnt/a # this clears S_DAX for /mnt/a > > > > > > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* > > > ----------e----- /mnt/a > > > ----------e----- /mnt/b > > > > That's really a bug in the lsattr code, yes? If we've cleared the > > S_DAX flag for the inode, then why is it being reported in lsattr? > > Or if we failed to clear the S_DAX flag in the 'chattr -x' call, > > then isn't that the bug that needs fixing? > > > > Remember, the whole point of the dax inode flag was to be able to > > override the mount option setting so that admins could turn off/on > > dax for the things that didn't/did work with DAX correctly so they > > didn't need multiple filesystems on pmem to segregate the apps that > > did/didn't work with DAX... > > So I think there is some confusion that is created by the fact that whether > DAX is used or not is controlled by both a mount option and an inode flag. > We could define that "Inode flag always wins" which is what you seem to > suggest above but then mount option has no practical effect since on-disk > S_DAX flag will always overrule it. Well, quite frankly, I never wanted the mount option for XFS. It was supposed to be for initial testing only, then we'd /always/ use the the inode flags. For a filesystem to default to using DAX, we set the DAX flag on the root inode at mkfs time, and then everything inode flag based just works. But it seems that we're now stuck with the stupid, blunt, brute force mount option because that's what the first commit on ext4 used. Now we're just about stuck with this silly "but we can't turn it off" problem because of the mount option overriding everything. If we have to keep the mount option, then lets fix it to mean "mount option sets inheritable inode flag on directory creation" and /maybe/ "mount option sets inode flag on file creation". This then allows the inode flag to control everything else. i.e the mount option sets the initial flag value rather than the behaviour of the inode. The behaviour of the inode should be entirely controlled by the inode flag, hence after initial creation the chattr +/-x commands do what they advertise regardless of the mount option value. Yes, it means that existing users are going to have to run chattr -R +x on their pmem filesystems to get the inode flags on disk, but this is all tagged with EXPERIMENTAL and this is the sort of change that is expected from experimental functionality. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com
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| From | Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> |
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| Date | 2017-09-26 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <utZbH-5XL-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1739783 |
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 09:09:57PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > Well, quite frankly, I never wanted the mount option for XFS. It was > supposed to be for initial testing only, then we'd /always/ use the > the inode flags. For a filesystem to default to using DAX, we > set the DAX flag on the root inode at mkfs time, and then everything > inode flag based just works. And I deeply fundamentally disagree. The mount option is a nice enough big hammer to try a mode without encoding nitty gritty details into the application ABI. The per-inode persistent flag is the biggest nightmare ever, as we see in all these discussions about it. What does it even mean? Right now it forces direct addressing as long as the underlying media supports that. But what about media that you directly access but you really don't want to because it's really slow? Or media that is so god damn fast that you never want to buffer? Or media where you want to buffer for writes (or at least some of them) but not for reads? It encodes a very specific mechanism for an early direct access implementation into the ABI. What we really need is for applications to declare an intent, not specify a particular mechanism.
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