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| Started by | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-18 21:00 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-08-22 13:20 +0200 |
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[PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-18 21:00 +0200
[PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-18 21:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 22:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-22 13:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 22:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-19 00:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-20 03:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-21 20:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 08:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> - 2017-08-22 13:20 +0200
| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-08-18 21:00 +0200 |
| Subject | [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket |
| Message-ID | <ufUEV-7yR-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Hello Dave, Resending the patch series to include netdev mailing list with a cover letter. I am submitting 2 patch series to enable hires timer to timeout datagram sockets (AF_UNIX & AF_INET domain) and test code to test timeout accuracy on these sockets. There has been a behavior change in 4.9 kernel with refactoring of Kernel timer wheel in 4.8. We have a use case wherein our datagram socket application is sensitive to socket timeout including long timeouts. One of the test runs with a timeout value of 180 seconds timed out at 190 seconds. [root@]# ./datagram_sock_timeout 180000 datagram_sock_timeout failed: took 190.00 seconds [root@]# The same program when run on a 4.4 kernel would timeout more accurately and the kernel added slack was not noticeable to user application. Patch 1: Has core code change of enabling hires timer to timeout datagram socket on AF_UNIX and AF_INET domain Patch 2: Test code to report regression in timeout behavior related to patch 1 Vallish Vaidyeshwara (2): net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets selftests/net: add test to verify datagram socket timeout net/core/datagram.c | 11 +- tools/testing/selftests/net/Makefile | 3 +- .../testing/selftests/net/datagram_sock_timeout.c | 119 +++++++++++++++++++++ .../selftests/net/run_datagram_sock_timeout.sh | 12 +++ 4 files changed, 143 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/net/datagram_sock_timeout.c create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/net/run_datagram_sock_timeout.sh -- 2.7.3.AMZN
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-18 21:00 +0200 |
| Subject | [PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets |
| Message-ID | <ufUEW-7yR-37@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715377 |
Enable high resolution timer mode to time SO_RCVTIMEO value used with
setsockopt(2) on AF_UNIX and AF_INET datagram sockets. By default,
SO_RCVTIMEO uses low resolution timer which is good for most of socket
use cases.
Background:
Kernel timer wheel was refactored in 4.8 to avoid drawbacks with previous
implementation:
https://lwn.net/Articles/691064/
Unlike the previous "kernel timer wheel" implementation in 4.4 which aimed
for accuracy by paying cost for cascading tracked timers at the boundary of
256 jiffies, the new timer wheel implementation gets rid of cascading
latency by paying a price for being less accurate for far off timers.
Use Case:
New implementation is good for most of socket use cases. However we have a
use case where our application is sensitive to socket timeout including
long timeouts. Please refer to test code as part of this patch series.
One of the test runs with a timeout value of 180 seconds timed out at
190 seconds.
[root@]# ./datagram_sock_timeout 180000
datagram_sock_timeout failed: took 190.00 seconds
[root@]#
The same program when run on a 4.4 kernel would timeout more acurately and
the kernel added slack was not noticeable to user application.
Interesting text:
a) Standards for setsockopt:
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/setsockopt.html
<snip>
SO_RCVTIMEO
Sets the timeout value that specifies the maximum amount of time an input
function waits until it completes. It accepts a timeval structure with the
number of seconds and microseconds specifying the limit on how long to wait
for an input operation to complete. If a receive operation has blocked for
this much time without receiving additional data, it shall return with a
partial count or errno set to [EAGAIN] or [EWOULDBLOCK] if no data is
received. The default for this option is zero, which indicates that a
receive operation shall not time out. This option takes a timeval
structure. Note that not all implementations allow this option to be set.
<end snip>
This only talks about the maximum time and the current behavior indeed
follows this standard. System call does not return before the time
specified and it does return EAGAIN.
b) Man page for SETSOCKOPT(3P):
<snip>
The option_name argument specifies a single option to set. It can be
one of the socket-level options defined in <sys_socket.h> and described in
Section 2.10.16, Use of Options. If option_name is equal to SO_RCVTIMEO
or SO_SNDTIMEO and the implementation supports setting the option, it is
unspecified whether the struct timeval pointed to by option_value is
stored as provided by this function or is rounded up to align with the
resolution of the clock being used. If setsockopt() is called with
option_name equal to SO_ACCEPTCONN, SO_ERROR, or SO_TYPE, the behavior is
unspecified.
<end snip>
Behavior is unspecified.
3) Man page for SELECT(2):
<snip>
Note that the timeout interval will be rounded up to the system
clock granularity, and kernel scheduling delays mean that the blocking
interval may overrun by a small amount. If both fields of the timeval
structure are zero, then select() returns immediately. (This is useful
for polling.) If timeout is NULL (no timeout), select() can block
indefinitely.
<end snip>
Select system call guarantees timeout interval and inturn uses highres
timer.
Reported-by: Manjula Peiris <thelgep@amazon.com>
Reviewed-by: Eduardo Valentin <eduval@amazon.com>
Reviewed-by: Anchal Agarwal <anchalag@amazon.com>
Signed-off-by: Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com>
---
net/core/datagram.c | 11 ++++++++++-
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/net/core/datagram.c b/net/core/datagram.c
index ee5647b..c89a104 100644
--- a/net/core/datagram.c
+++ b/net/core/datagram.c
@@ -80,6 +80,7 @@ static int receiver_wake_function(wait_queue_entry_t *wait, unsigned int mode, i
return 0;
return autoremove_wake_function(wait, mode, sync, key);
}
+
/*
* Wait for the last received packet to be different from skb
*/
@@ -87,6 +88,8 @@ int __skb_wait_for_more_packets(struct sock *sk, int *err, long *timeo_p,
const struct sk_buff *skb)
{
int error;
+ ktime_t expires;
+ unsigned long pre_sched_time;
DEFINE_WAIT_FUNC(wait, receiver_wake_function);
prepare_to_wait_exclusive(sk_sleep(sk), &wait, TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
@@ -116,7 +119,13 @@ int __skb_wait_for_more_packets(struct sock *sk, int *err, long *timeo_p,
goto interrupted;
error = 0;
- *timeo_p = schedule_timeout(*timeo_p);
+ /* Wait using highres timer */
+ expires = ktime_add_ns(ktime_get(), jiffies_to_nsecs(*timeo_p));
+ pre_sched_time = jiffies;
+ if (schedule_hrtimeout(&expires, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS))
+ *timeo_p = jiffies - pre_sched_time;
+ else
+ *timeo_p = 0;
out:
finish_wait(sk_sleep(sk), &wait);
return error;
--
2.7.3.AMZN
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| From | Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-21 22:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets |
| Message-ID | <uh1l0-wT-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715381 |
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> wrote: > - *timeo_p = schedule_timeout(*timeo_p); > + /* Wait using highres timer */ > + expires = ktime_add_ns(ktime_get(), jiffies_to_nsecs(*timeo_p)); > + pre_sched_time = jiffies; > + if (schedule_hrtimeout(&expires, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS)) Does this work with MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT too??
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-22 13:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/2] net: enable high resolution timer mode to timeout datagram sockets |
| Message-ID | <uhfnX-1zX-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1716836 |
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 01:10:34PM -0700, Cong Wang wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Vallish Vaidyeshwara > <vallish@amazon.com> wrote: > > - *timeo_p = schedule_timeout(*timeo_p); > > + /* Wait using highres timer */ > > + expires = ktime_add_ns(ktime_get(), jiffies_to_nsecs(*timeo_p)); > > + pre_sched_time = jiffies; > > + if (schedule_hrtimeout(&expires, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS)) > Hello Cong, > Does this work with MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT too?? > Thanks for pointing out MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT. I have made minor change to accommodate MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT and will send out next version of the patch for review. Thanks. -Vallish
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| From | Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-18 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ufVUm-8uR-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715377 |
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 06:44:08PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > There has been a behavior change in 4.9 kernel with refactoring of Kernel > timer wheel in 4.8. We have a use case wherein our datagram socket > application is sensitive to socket timeout including long timeouts. > > One of the test runs with a timeout value of 180 seconds timed out at > 190 seconds. So the whole premise of the new timer wheel is that long timeouts need not be very accurate. > Patch 1: Has core code change of enabling hires timer to timeout datagram > socket on AF_UNIX and AF_INET domain Using hrtimers will hurt performance for most applications. Can you please explain your use case and why is it so important? Thanks, Richard
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-19 00:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ufXW9-1rk-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715437 |
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:18:54PM +0200, Richard Cochran wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 06:44:08PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > > There has been a behavior change in 4.9 kernel with refactoring of Kernel > > timer wheel in 4.8. We have a use case wherein our datagram socket > > application is sensitive to socket timeout including long timeouts. > > > > One of the test runs with a timeout value of 180 seconds timed out at > > 190 seconds. > > So the whole premise of the new timer wheel is that long timeouts need > not be very accurate. > > > Patch 1: Has core code change of enabling hires timer to timeout datagram > > socket on AF_UNIX and AF_INET domain > Hello Richard, > Using hrtimers will hurt performance for most applications. Can you > please explain your use case and why is it so important? > We have a on-demand application that uses long timeouts and needs to react to events within milliseconds. With this change in behavior, we notice from 4.4 to 4.9, the legacy application is now exhibiting incorrect behavior with same set of system calls. Thanks. -Vallish > Thanks, > Richard > >
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| From | Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-19 08:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ug5qF-6cp-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715485 |
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:27:56PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > We have a on-demand application that uses long timeouts and needs to react to > events within milliseconds. Huh? The test program you posted does not react to any event. Thanks, Richard
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-20 03:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ugnxf-nG-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715567 |
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 08:21:45AM +0200, Richard Cochran wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:27:56PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > > We have a on-demand application that uses long timeouts and needs to react to > > events within milliseconds. > Hello Richard, > Huh? The test program you posted does not react to any event. > Application has logic for complex events and test program is kept simple to highlight the change in behavior seen with system calls. Thanks. -Vallish > Thanks, > Richard >
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-21 20:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ugZCy-7OA-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1715786 |
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 01:47:45AM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 08:21:45AM +0200, Richard Cochran wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:27:56PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote: > > > We have a on-demand application that uses long timeouts and needs to react to > > > events within milliseconds. > > > > Hello Richard, > > > Huh? The test program you posted does not react to any event. > > > > Application has logic for complex events and test program is kept simple to > highlight the change in behavior seen with system calls. > Hello Richard, AWS Lambda is affected by this change in behavior in system call. Following links has more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWS_Lambda https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/ Thanks. -Vallish
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| From | Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-22 08:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uhaRk-6SH-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1716777 |
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 06:22:10PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote:
> AWS Lambda is affected by this change in behavior in
> system call. Following links has more information:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWS_Lambda
Quote:
Unlike Amazon EC2, which is priced by the hour, AWS Lambda is
metered in increments of 100 milliseconds.
So I guess you want the accurate timeout in order to support billing?
In any case, even with the old wheel you didn't have guarantees WRT
timeout latency, and so the proper way for the application to handle
this is to use a timerfd together with HIGH_RES_TIMERS, and PREEMPT_RT
in order to have sub-millisecond latency.
Thanks,
Richard
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| From | Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@amazon.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-22 13:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uhfnX-1zX-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1717060 |
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 08:23:11AM +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 06:22:10PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote:
> > AWS Lambda is affected by this change in behavior in
> > system call. Following links has more information:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWS_Lambda
>
> Quote:
>
> Unlike Amazon EC2, which is priced by the hour, AWS Lambda is
> metered in increments of 100 milliseconds.
>
> So I guess you want the accurate timeout in order to support billing?
> In any case, even with the old wheel you didn't have guarantees WRT
> timeout latency, and so the proper way for the application to handle
> this is to use a timerfd together with HIGH_RES_TIMERS, and PREEMPT_RT
> in order to have sub-millisecond latency.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
Hello Richard,
4.4 kernel implementation of datagram socket wait code is calling
schedule_timeout() which in-turn calls __mod_timer(). __mod_timer()
does not add any slack. mod_timer() is the function that adds slack.
This gives good consistent results for event handling response time
on datagram socket timeouts.
strace from 4.4 test run of waiting for 180 seconds:
10:25:48.239685 setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVTIMEO, "\264\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 0
10:25:48.239755 recvmsg(3, 0x7ffd0a3beec0, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
10:28:48.236989 fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 0), ...}) = 0
strace from 4.9 test run of waiting for 180 seconds times out close to 195 seconds:
setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVTIMEO, "\264\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 0 <0.000028>
recvmsg(3, 0x7ffd6a2c4380, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <194.852000>
fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 0), ...}) = 0 <0.000018>
This change of behavior in system call is breaking the application logic and
response time.
Thanks.
-Vallish
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